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![]() Jim Hampton wrote: "KØHB" wrote in message ink.net... "Len Over 21" wrote Which one of super chief's ships had over 30 HF transmitters, and all of them 1 KW or higher? All "big-time radio communications experience" does not happen on HF, 30 transmitters is not a remarkable number of transmitters, and power levels of a mere 1KW are distinctly small-time. But to satisfy your criteria, here are a few examples of my assignments with more than 30 transmitters, 1KW or larger. At NAVRADSTA(T) Barrigada 78 transmitters none smaller than 5KW (AN/FRT-39). Largest was 200KW (AN/FRT-72). At USS Annapolis AGMR-1 48 transmitters, none smaller than 1KW (AN/URT-23). Largest was 40KW (AN/FRT-40). At NAVRADSTA(T) Driver 55 transmitters none smaller than 10KW (AN/FRT-39B). Largest was 600KW (AN/FRT-100). At COMSECONDFLT, uncounted transmitters situated on more than 150 ships, including 8 aircraft carriers. How many 200 KW and 600KW transmitters did the super corporal of ADA operate? With all kind wishes, Hans Brakob Master Chief Radioman, US Navy Hello, Hans Most interesting, indeed. Just out of curiosity, do you have an idea of how much power the Navy uses on the VLF stuff? Just curious. When you start talking 6 zeros in the power level, three zeroes *does* start to look pretty small time ![]() Best regards from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release Date: 6/18/04 QST had a story many years ago when the VLF station in Maine was first opened. I remember a picture of a man standing up inside the coax. Power was in the 2 Megawatt range. John |
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![]() "Jim Hampton" wrote Just out of curiosity, do you have an idea of how much power the Navy uses on the VLF stuff? I don't know current QRO, but in the 70's the COMSUBLANT transmitter at Cutler was 1,700,000W on 15.9KHz and the COMSUBPAC transmitter at Jim Creek was 2,200,000W on 17.1KHz. The ELF site at Clam Lake is reportedly engineered for just under 1,000,000,000W at somewhere just above powerline QRG, 75Hz if I remember correctly. The antenna is just under 29 miles long. 73, de Hans, K0HB |
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In article . net, "KØHB"
writes: "Len Over 21" wrote Which one of super chief's ships had over 30 HF transmitters, and all of them 1 KW or higher? All "big-time radio communications experience" does not happen on HF, 30 transmitters is not a remarkable number of transmitters, and power levels of a mere 1KW are distinctly small-time. But to satisfy your criteria, here are a few examples of my assignments with more than 30 transmitters, 1KW or larger. At NAVRADSTA(T) Barrigada 78 transmitters none smaller than 5KW (AN/FRT-39). Largest was 200KW (AN/FRT-72). At USS Annapolis AGMR-1 48 transmitters, none smaller than 1KW (AN/URT-23). Largest was 40KW (AN/FRT-40). At NAVRADSTA(T) Driver 55 transmitters none smaller than 10KW (AN/FRT-39B). Largest was 600KW (AN/FRT-100). At COMSECONDFLT, uncounted transmitters situated on more than 150 ships, including 8 aircraft carriers. How many 200 KW and 600KW transmitters did the super corporal of ADA operate? None. ADA was/is an ARMY callsign. :-) ADA is presently the Headquarters call of the USARPAC (United States Army, Pacific) located at Fort Shafter, Hawaii. I have no idea what USARPAC is running on HF now. Left ADA in 1956...that's 48 years ago. The facilities of ADA were transferred to the USAF in 1963 (callsign changed, equipment the same) but the USAF closed that entire facility down in 1978. There's an "HF Department" of the 78th Signal Service Battalion stationed at Camp Zama, Japan, under the 516th Signal Brigade at Fort Shafter. I don't have any details on what the 78th has nor of any extensive "inventory." :-) Back in late 1954 the 40 KW Collins transmitter hadn't yet been given the military designation of AN/FRT-22. :-) For that matter, the 24-voice-channel GE microwave terminals (commercial) weren't given the "official" designation of AN/FRC-25...the "credential" for such importance consisting of sticking on a label on each of the six terminal racks' doors, thereby making it "military." :-) Those just kept on working into the USAF responsibility shift. ADA was never the biggest Army station, those facilities probably never the biggest USAF station after 1963. The ADA receiver site at Camp Owada was shared with the USAF in the 1950s and was described as the largest receiver site in the world at the time with pairs of rhombics for each circuit (space diversity with multicouplers and diversity adapters) and the whole works running 24/7. TTY Relay at Chuo Kogyo (later at Building 898, North Camp Drake) handled 220 thousand messages a month in 1955. Not the biggest since WAR (Washington Army Radio) TTY Relay handled 1.2 million a month in that same year. Except for some trials of mods, all the rest of the TTYs ran at 60 WPM rates. That was a half century ago. Times have changed. Some ideas of what the U.S. military does now, or even did back a half century ago are purely imaginary in the minds of those that weren't involved in military communications then or later. Yes, I was a corporal back a half century ago, a PFC before that, and the equivalent of today's SSGT afterwards, that as an operating team leader and later as a supervisor of microwave relay operations and maintenance. All in three years of that assignment. Thank you for mentioning it. :-) I could not dare to achieve any heights of greatness nor the nobility of purpose or excellence of the United States Navy in a short volunteer military active duty time of 4 years...not even in the reserves for 4 more...just army stuff, what an ex- murine called "radio clerk" things. :-) Thank you for the rendition of "Rancors Away..." :-) |
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Subject: The Game's Afoot!
From: "KØHB" Date: 6/18/2004 6:36 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: et "Len Over 21" wrote Except for Heil, none of the regulars were involved in any big-time radio communications experience. Sunuvagun! Not true, but hey, if it makes an old man feel good, let him think it... 73 Steve, K4YZ |
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"KØHB" wrote in message ink.net...
"Len Over 21" wrote Except for Heil, none of the regulars were involved in any big-time radio communications experience. Sunuvagun! 73, de Hans, K0HB Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio! Hi, hi. |
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![]() "Len Over 21" wrote Except for Heil, none of the regulars were involved in any big-time radio communications experience. Sunuvagun! 73, de Hans, K0HB |
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In article et, "KØHB"
writes: "Len Over 21" wrote Except for Heil, none of the regulars were involved in any big-time radio communications experience. Sunuvagun! 73, de Hans, K0HB ...strange echo in here...must be very sporadic B layer again...:-) LHA / WMD |
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