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Subject: The Game's Afoot!
From: (Len Over 21) Date: 6/17/2004 4:45 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: In order for PRESENT DAY MARS to continue to fulfil it's federal mission, it is DEPENDANT upon volunteer civilian licensees of the Amatuer Radio Service. No...MARS can and does function by itself. It is controlled by the military and therefore run by the military using government radio equipment. Getting civilians involved is only part of the task. MARS is dependent upon Amateurs to do the bulk of it's traffic. It was true during Viet Nam, it's true today. MARS has never involved "amatuer radio," only amateur radio. Again your only defensible argument is that I transposed two letters. For information on Army MARS, see the Fort Huachuca website and follow the links there. While Huachuca is the Military Intelligence School Hq, Army MARS is headquartered there off to one side. I know you'll find this hard to believe, but life exists beyond websites. Otherwise some nicely packaged editorializing by someone who is not active in the program and has no practical experience on the subject he's pontificating about. Now, now. I've been to Huachuca. I am sure you've been lot's of places. An active imagination allows for that. I've controlled MARS transmissions. Uh huh. 51 years ago I lucked out in my military service...(SNIP) Here we go again...."Back at ADA......" It could have been AGA (San Francisco) or AHA (Hawaii) or Seattle or Manila or Okinawa or even Anchorage. Uh huh. No...that CEMENTED what your concepts of what radio communication was about. Nursie did not exist a half century ago. He isn't in any way, shape, or form able to conceptualize much of anything of that time unless spoon-fed the information from some ARRL publication. Regardless of my birthdate, your rhetoric and spamming of the NG exists TODAY, and it is rife with your tales of what you did five decades ago. None of it has anything to do with Amateur Radio. Nursie should stop trying to dictate what others said long ago or experienced long ago...or even what they say they thought long ago...when nursie didn't exist. "Dictating" what you said? All I have to do is quote it. I couldn't invent some of the silly stuff you come up with! Very little in what you post here deviates from what you say you experienced in the 50's, yet YOU take every opportunity to denigrate any Amateur who has the temerity to suggest discussing ANYthing that happened more than a week ago as "traditionalist-fundamentalist". Nope. Only very specific amateurs. Principally those which hang out in here trying to make noises like they are special representatives from Newington. The ONLY people who have ever presented themselves as "representitives from Newington" were Ed Hare and Jon Bloom, and even then they were quite clear in stating that thier persoanlly held opinions did not represent the ARRL. Only YOU make that assertion, and it's still a lie. If anyone keeps harping on obeyance-adherence to the standards and practices of the 1930s in amateuism of the 2000s, then they automatically join the "traditionalist- fundamentalist" club. Then I guess we get to heap you into that pile, Your Scumminess, since YOU are the ONLY one making any such assertion. No one in this forum has made any such assertion. Even those who staunchly support Morse Code testing have advocated advancement in the service. I encourge you to provide even ONE quote that supports your assertion to the contrary.... If anyone uses manual telegraphy skill testing as a requirement for use of amateur HF bands then they are automatically in the "traditionalist-fundamentalist" club. Time can't be frozen but those club members all want to freeze out anyone not thinking as they do. And again that would be you. Everyone MUST be Lennie, otherwise they are "traditionalist-fundamentalist, jack-booted Nazi thugs". The regulars in this venue don't want to hear of that. It wasn't about "amateur radio" and it hasn't been publicized in QST. Well golly gee whiz, Your Putziness...Ya think it might be due to the fact that (a) it happened over FIVE decades ago, and (B) has NOTHING to do with AMATEUR RADIO...?!?! Poor nursie. Never did any big-time radio communications in his military days...resents anyone who did. This is a forum about AMATEUR RADIO. And yes, I did "big time radio communication" in the military. Poor nursie...never did any radio-electronics engineering and resents anyone who did. I don't resent your alleged engineering career, Lennie. I know several electronics engineers, and they are fine fellows who make meaningful contributions. You are NOT a fine fellow, and there's more than a few indicators that your "contribution" to radio communications were limited to your few articles sold to Ham Radio magazine. (No doubt a last resort in "getting published" since I am sure the professional journals cut you off at the knees.) Even then I can't find a single example where any of your "work" was original, nor can I find any example of where your "contributions" were complimentary to the advancement of ANY radio communications discipline. Poor nursie...never could take an opposite opinion to his in here and is bitterly resentful to anyone who had spoken out in opposition to him. I am only "bitterly resentful" of pathological liars and persons who proactively seek to cause ACAN (Army Command-Administration Network) of the late...(SNIP) has NOTHING to do with Amateur Radio, then or now. Tsk, tsk, tsk...poor nursie wants to concentrate solely on amateur RADIO as if it works by different physical principles than other radio of other radio services. It doesn't. The examples useful to amateur radio are neglected in the amateur press, therefore nursie doesn't want to know anything except what is spoon-fed him through hum radio magazines. Another lie. I have repeatedly stated it's not the physics. It's the application. And it's too bad YOU don't avail yourself of the "hum radio magazines". (Your true colors are showing, Scumbag.) Poor nursie...bitter and resentful to the last. I'll bet nursie loves to heckle entertainers from the audience while they are trying to entertain an audience. If I paid money to see someone who isn't, in my opionion, entertaining, I do one better...I get up, go the manager and get my money back on the way out the door. Nursie can't lighten up. Always has to make fun of others. Not a good mental health sign. Untrue again. I find it QUITE "enlightening" to keep an eye on you. And I don't have to make fun of you. You do it yourself. And I am still waiting for you to post your credentials to tell us what qualified you to make determinations as to what is or isn't "good mental health". Leafing through wifey's correspondence courses doesn't qulify. Putz.. Well, back to nursie's name-calling again. "Meaningful discourse" in the only way nursie can get along...dissing and cursing those who won't agree with him. It's not name calling if it's true. And you ARE a putz. Of course I could gobact through tons of YOUR "name calling" and recite it...Or is Lennie the Liar ABOVE lving up to his own rhetoric...?!?! Must be the "new" 'inherent good will of radio amateurs'... You're not an Amatuer and this forum isn't regulated by Part 97 of the FCC Rules and Regulations. Steve, K4YZ |