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June 24th 04, 01:22 PM
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Dave Heil wrote in message ...
Len Over 21 wrote: In article , Dave Heil writes: Len Over 21 wrote: In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: The Game's Afoot! From: (Len Over 21) Date: 6/23/2004 12:13 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: You hate Amateur Radio and Amateur Radio licensees. That's blatantly obvious. No. Amateur radio is a fine hobby, interesting, a fine recreation with great technological learning capabilities. Aside from hearsay or SWLing, how would you know, Leonard? Heil, you've done that schtick already. It doesn't apply. It doesn't work. Give up on that ploy. It isn't schtick and it is no ploy, Leonard. If some kid, assuming that he is above the age which you believe should be the minimum for amateur radio licensing, comes to you and says, "What can you tell me about amateur radio, Mr. Anderson?", the best you'll be able to do is tell him that you heard from a friend that amateur radio is.... or that you read in a book that amateur radio is... You're shucking and jiving, Leonard. Dave K8MN Interesting. I once said that a prospective ham almost had to know a ham to become a ham. Then you guys set upon me like the pack of wild dogs that you are, telling me of acts of heroism how you got the book and read it and went down to the steely-eyed fcc examiner and became a ham. No sir! No help from no one. So Len could tell the kid to get a book. Which according to your comment above, a book just isn't going to give sufficient information to be able to answer questions about amateur radio. You guys play both ends against the middle, and now that you've worked down to the middle, your arguments fail because they are contradictory. Go argue with yourself. You, K8MN, are shucking and jiving. Best of Luck. |
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June 25th 04, 12:54 AM
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In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: The Game's Afoot! From: (William) Date: 6/24/2004 7:22 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: Dave Heil wrote in message ... Len Over 21 wrote: In article , Dave Heil writes: Len Over 21 wrote: In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: The Game's Afoot! From: (Len Over 21) Date: 6/23/2004 12:13 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: You hate Amateur Radio and Amateur Radio licensees. That's blatantly obvious. No. Amateur radio is a fine hobby, interesting, a fine recreation with great technological learning capabilities. Aside from hearsay or SWLing, how would you know, Leonard? Heil, you've done that schtick already. It doesn't apply. It doesn't work. Give up on that ploy. It isn't schtick and it is no ploy, Leonard. If some kid, assuming that he is above the age which you believe should be the minimum for amateur radio licensing, comes to you and says, "What can you tell me about amateur radio, Mr. Anderson?", the best you'll be able to do is tell him that you heard from a friend that amateur radio is.... or that you read in a book that amateur radio is... You're shucking and jiving, Leonard. Dave K8MN Interesting. I once said that a prospective ham almost had to know a ham to become a ham. Then you guys set upon me like the pack of wild dogs that you are, telling me of acts of heroism how you got the book and read it and went down to the steely-eyed fcc examiner and became a ham. No sir! No help from no one. So Len could tell the kid to get a book. Which according to your comment above, a book just isn't going to give sufficient information to be able to answer questions about amateur radio. You guys play both ends against the middle, and now that you've worked down to the middle, your arguments fail because they are contradictory. Go argue with yourself. You, K8MN, are shucking and jiving. Best of Luck. The POINT, Your Junior Putziness, is that Lennie doesn't HAVE the experience to help the kid OTHER than the theory part. Riiiight...just five-plus decades of experience beginning around 1947. OH! Maybe the gunnery nurse is going to address the troops at morning assembly again: "Amateur radio WORKS DIFFERENT that all other radio services!" Right..."amateur electrons" instead of commercial ones. Uh huh. Poor nursie...thinks the FCC can regulate Laws of Physics too! He can't help with testing, other than to refer him to someone else. Riiiight...amateur radio WORKS DIFFERENT than all other radio. Unca Stevie da gunnery nursie gave us the command orders! He can't help with the Code (should "the kid" desire to learn it), other than to refer him to someone else. Riiiiight...no amateur radio transmitter can WORK on HF without the "opertator" being tested for manual telegraphy. :-) Da gubmint and da Army use COMPUTER PROGRAMS to teach morse code cognition at Fort Huachuca, AZ. Do dat mean da computers gotta be LICENSED IN HAM RADIO? He can't help with tutoring "the kid" on proper Amateur Radio operating technique, other than to refer him to someone else. Riiiight. PROPER PROCEDURE AND PRACTICE ON THE HAM BANDS IS MOST IMPORTANT! Hams and hamsters can get fired if they screw up on procedure, lose their social status, be taken out and shot in the AM...and then be chewed out by the Super Chief Master Gunnery Nurse! A fate worse than death. Those that don't use proper procedure might never OPERTATE again!!! He can't help with...well....I can go on and on.... Poor nursie, still obsessed with hate. It's NOT about working "both ends against the middle". Riiiight...it is capitulation to the loudmouths like gunnery nurse and herr robust and like-minded self-righteous control freaks of olde-tyme hamme raddio. It's about what contributions Lennie has alledgedly made to Amateur Radio. WOW! New requirement! All newcomers MUST CONTRIBUTE to ham radio BEFORE they get licensed! Hits a new high in the extra nobility snob category...all serve the might lords of telegraphy FIRST...then they MIGHT let one come into "their kingdom" if one groveled well enough to suit their noble blue-blooded righteousness. Easily summated, it's ZERO. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Nursie done expressed all kinds of "informed opinions" on national and world economy, the socio-political climate, ad nauseum, and has ZERO credentials or smarts in that! NOTHING. NADA. ZIP. Subject didn't touch ham radio within a light-year but here his mightyness be sitting, spittle shooting out in rage of denigration of others, and then NOT knowing radio physics. His only "professional" affiliation with Amateur Radio went belly-up a long time ago. Furthermore there's not a single reference, footnote or other attribution of an LHA-authored HR article in ANY technical text outside of that defunct magazine, and even then, that's 20+ year old information. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Nursie need to read more. :-) Nursie not know radio theory, certainly not electronics in general. Nursie need to check out UK website having listings of radio articles. Nursie think FCC can make electrons, fields, and waves "act different" by law if they separate "amateur" radio from all other radio! Nursie gots to get more education in theory to UNDERSTAND technical subjects written up in publications. Memorizing the sales phrases and jargon in QST advertisements not enough. Nursie are not right in head. As you can see, no luck was needed...just facts. "Facts" in nursieworld much different than reality. Nursie "facts" not same as real-world facts. Temper fry... LHA / WMD |
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June 25th 04, 11:33 AM
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Subject: The Game's Afoot!
From: (Len Over 21) Date: 6/24/2004 6:54 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: The POINT, Your Junior Putziness, is that Lennie doesn't HAVE the experience to help the kid OTHER than the theory part. "Amateur radio WORKS DIFFERENT that all other radio services!" Right..."amateur electrons" instead of commercial ones. Uh huh. Poor nursie...thinks the FCC can regulate Laws of Physics too! In your rush to try and make more of your own "newsgroup messaging points", you tripped right over the part where I said "...OTHER than the theory part."... Oh well. Speaking of which... You created this "newsgroup messaging points" farce, yet have never availed us with the scoring system. What's up with that? That was a rhetorical question, by the way...WE all know you are deeply "into" not finishing ANYthing... Maybe that's why there were never any Mini-Lennie's for you to nurture and gain some practical experience upon which to base your "there ought to be an age limit" suggestion for Amateur Radio...?!?! Yet ANOTHER unaccomplished task. Steve, K4YZ |
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#5
June 26th 04, 04:06 AM
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In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: The Game's Afoot! From: (Len Over 21) Date: 6/24/2004 6:54 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: The POINT, Your Junior Putziness, is that Lennie doesn't HAVE the experience to help the kid OTHER than the theory part. "Amateur radio WORKS DIFFERENT that all other radio services!" Right..."amateur electrons" instead of commercial ones. Uh huh. Poor nursie...thinks the FCC can regulate Laws of Physics too! In your rush to try and make more of your own "newsgroup messaging points", you tripped right over the part where I said "...OTHER than the theory part."... Oh well. Poor nursie. Still thinking ham radio works DIFFERENT than all other radio. According to nursie, ham radio have "special" operating techniques, ability to "tune a signal so very carefully" and lots of other bull****. Poor nursie will come unglued at what he thinks is a "profane word" like bull****. Must be sissy marine no longer on any active duty. Speaking of which... You created this "newsgroup messaging points" farce, yet have never availed us with the scoring system. What "farce?" Nursie statements? THAT be a farce! Nursie badly need to talk to DoD on MARS, get straight. What's up with that? Yes, WHY doesn't nursie agree with DoD? Should... That was a rhetorical question, by the way...WE all know you are deeply "into" not finishing ANYthing... ? Nursie go nuts again. Imagine things. Maybe that's why there were never any Mini-Lennie's for you to nurture and gain some practical experience upon which to base your "there ought to be an age limit" suggestion for Amateur Radio...?!?! Nursie VERY nuts. Thinks this is still 5 years ago. Time marches on but nursie can't hear cadence or keep in step. Yet ANOTHER unaccomplished task. Nursie need help. Not get it in newsgroup. Nursie try reading "Ham Radio for Dummies?" Apt. Temper fry... LHA / WMD |
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June 26th 04, 10:49 AM
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Subject: The Game's Afoot!
From: (Len Over 21) Date: 6/25/2004 10:06 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: Poor nursie will come unglued at what he thinks is a "profane word" like bull****. Must be sissy marine no longer on any active duty. Nope. Just college educated with a bit better vocabulary than you, "Mr Professional Engineer". Steve, K4YZ |
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#7
June 26th 04, 07:52 PM
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In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: The Game's Afoot! From: (Len Over 21) Date: 6/25/2004 10:06 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: Poor nursie will come unglued at what he thinks is a "profane word" like bull****. Must be sissy marine no longer on any active duty. Nope. Just college educated with a bit better vocabulary than you, "Mr Professional Engineer". NOT P.E. Just professional. Perform service for money. Good, honest money. Make enough be happy. Nursie go collitch? Heap edumcated? Have nice certificates? Nursie not make enough money be happy? Tsk. Nursie angry, much hate. Not good. Nursie curse, snarl. Veins go pop soon. Nursie need hobby to ease out hate, anger. Suggest working DX from outer space. Nursie must be there. Nurse spaced out. Temper fry... LHA / WMD |
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#8
June 24th 04, 04:01 PM
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William wrote:
Dave Heil wrote in message ... Len Over 21 wrote: In article , Dave Heil writes: Len Over 21 wrote: In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: The Game's Afoot! From: (Len Over 21) Date: 6/23/2004 12:13 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: You hate Amateur Radio and Amateur Radio licensees. That's blatantly obvious. No. Amateur radio is a fine hobby, interesting, a fine recreation with great technological learning capabilities. Aside from hearsay or SWLing, how would you know, Leonard? Heil, you've done that schtick already. It doesn't apply. It doesn't work. Give up on that ploy. It isn't schtick and it is no ploy, Leonard. If some kid, assuming that he is above the age which you believe should be the minimum for amateur radio licensing, comes to you and says, "What can you tell me about amateur radio, Mr. Anderson?", the best you'll be able to do is tell him that you heard from a friend that amateur radio is.... or that you read in a book that amateur radio is... You're shucking and jiving, Leonard. Dave K8MN Interesting. I think so. I once said that a prospective ham almost had to know a ham to become a ham. I don't recall that. Then you guys set upon me like the pack of wild dogs that you are... Which "you guys" would that be? ...telling me of acts of heroism... Acts of heroism? I don't believe you. how you got the book and read it and went down to the steely-eyed fcc examiner and became a ham. No sir! No help from no one. Novice exams weren't taken in front of any FCC examiner, much less a stelly-eyed examiner. K8CFT wasn't steely-eyed at all. SK W8MN sparked my interest in becoming a ham but he couldn't learn the theory for me and I'd moved to a different town by the time I began practicing morse to increase my speed. So Len could tell the kid to get a book. Oh, he wouldn't likely do that. He'd go into one of his Foghorn Lenhorn pontifications. Which according to your comment above, a book just isn't going to give sufficient information to be able to answer questions about amateur radio. A book can provide information to an extent. No good golfer became one by reading a book. No good fisherman became one by reading a book. No good radio op became one by reading a book. Practice and experience are the keys. Len has neither. You guys play both ends against the middle, and now that you've worked down to the middle, your arguments fail because they are contradictory. Go argue with yourself. You, K8MN, are shucking and jiving. I'd say that they appear contradictory to you, "William", because you don't fully understand them. "You don't need a former military weatherman to know which way the wind blows" Dave K8MN |
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June 25th 04, 12:54 AM
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In article , Dave Heil
writes: I'd say that they appear contradictory to you, "William", because you don't fully understand them. Neither do others... "You don't need a former military weatherman to know which way the wind blows" It all BLOWS from K8MN QTH. Say goodnight herr robust. Temper fry... LHA / WMD |
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June 25th 04, 03:17 AM
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Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote: Dave Heil wrote in message ... Len Over 21 wrote: In article , Dave Heil writes: Len Over 21 wrote: In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: The Game's Afoot! From: (Len Over 21) Date: 6/23/2004 12:13 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: You hate Amateur Radio and Amateur Radio licensees. That's blatantly obvious. No. Amateur radio is a fine hobby, interesting, a fine recreation with great technological learning capabilities. Aside from hearsay or SWLing, how would you know, Leonard? Heil, you've done that schtick already. It doesn't apply. It doesn't work. Give up on that ploy. It isn't schtick and it is no ploy, Leonard. If some kid, assuming that he is above the age which you believe should be the minimum for amateur radio licensing, comes to you and says, "What can you tell me about amateur radio, Mr. Anderson?", the best you'll be able to do is tell him that you heard from a friend that amateur radio is.... or that you read in a book that amateur radio is... You're shucking and jiving, Leonard. Dave K8MN Interesting. I think so. I think so. I once said that a prospective ham almost had to know a ham to become a ham. I don't recall that. There's that famous Heil selective memory at work. Next thing you know you'll forget all about those out of band Frenchmen on 6 meters. Then you guys set upon me like the pack of wild dogs that you are... Which "you guys" would that be? PCTA. Know any? ...telling me of acts of heroism... Acts of heroism? I don't believe you. Yup. And because they display bravery and heroism in the face of the old-timey exams and examiners, all who wish to enter the Kingdom must also face those same exams and examiners. But since those old-timey exams and examiners have gone away, all the new hammies are just not worthy. Common theme throughout R.R.A.P. how you got the book and read it and went down to the steely-eyed fcc examiner and became a ham. No sir! No help from no one. Novice exams weren't taken in front of any FCC examiner, much less a stelly-eyed examiner. Steely-eyed. K8CFT wasn't steely-eyed at all. SK W8MN sparked my interest in becoming a ham but he couldn't learn the theory for me and I'd moved to a different town by the time I began practicing morse to increase my speed. So you knew hams prior to being licensed. That fits my story. So what are you disagreeing with now? So Len could tell the kid to get a book. Oh, he wouldn't likely do that. He'd go into one of his Foghorn Lenhorn pontifications. Or he could drag out a box of out of band QSL cards... Which according to your comment above, a book just isn't going to give sufficient information to be able to answer questions about amateur radio. A book can provide information to an extent. A book can provide everything needed to become an amateur. No good golfer became one by reading a book. No good fisherman became one by reading a book. Would you like to add a few more non-radio related categories to your list? No good radio op became one by reading a book. Now you wish to qualify your statement with the word, "good," and change the subject matter from amateur radio operator to undifferentiated radio operator. You have substantially changed the subject matter. Previously, the subject was a young, unlicensed person wanted to know about Amateur Radio. Have it your way. One can become licensed in amateur radio simply by reading a -single- book and taking an exam. Unless you are saying that those PCTA's who told me so are liars. Practice and experience are the keys. Of course, now that you've substantially changed the subject. Len has neither. Above you say, "No good radio op became one by reading a book." You don't differentiate between amateur radio operators and military radio operators. Using your changed subject matter, Len has plenty of book reading, training, practice, and experience. I might add that he also has formal education in the subject matter. You guys play both ends against the middle, and now that you've worked down to the middle, your arguments fail because they are contradictory. Go argue with yourself. You, K8MN, are shucking and jiving. I'd say that they appear contradictory to you, "William", because you don't fully understand them. Of course. Heil knows all. He is the very definition of Omniscient. And all others are ignorant. "You don't need a former military weatherman to know which way the wind blows" Apparently, you do. I'd suggest you stop ****ing in the wind. Best of Luck. |
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