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June 25th 04, 07:24 AM
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In article , Dave Heil
writes: William wrote: Dave Heil wrote in message ... William wrote: Dave Heil wrote in message ... Len Over 21 wrote: In article , Dave Heil writes: Len Over 21 wrote: In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: The Game's Afoot! From: (Len Over 21) Date: 6/23/2004 12:13 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: You hate Amateur Radio and Amateur Radio licensees. That's blatantly obvious. No. Amateur radio is a fine hobby, interesting, a fine recreation with great technological learning capabilities. Aside from hearsay or SWLing, how would you know, Leonard? Heil, you've done that schtick already. It doesn't apply. It doesn't work. Give up on that ploy. It isn't schtick and it is no ploy, Leonard. If some kid, assuming that he is above the age which you believe should be the minimum for amateur radio licensing, comes to you and says, "What can you tell me about amateur radio, Mr. Anderson?", the best you'll be able to do is tell him that you heard from a friend that amateur radio is.... or that you read in a book that amateur radio is... You're shucking and jiving, Leonard. Dave K8MN Interesting. I think so. I think so. I once said that a prospective ham almost had to know a ham to become a ham. I don't recall that. There's that famous Heil selective memory at work. Next thing you know you'll forget all about those out of band Frenchmen on 6 meters. I know this'll come as a real disappointment to you, "William", but I don't hang on your every word. Big Dave manage to hang hisself by his OWN words! :-) I have only so much space available for mental storage and I like to reserve it for the really important matters. Riiiiight. For song titles "yet to be published." Are ASCAP and BMI chomping at the bit on that? Or have they been bit. :-) Then you guys set upon me like the pack of wild dogs that you are... Which "you guys" would that be? PCTA. Know any? I know several. Are you telling us that everyone who is for morse testing and who posts here "set upon you like a pack of wild dogs" and that everyone who is for morse testing and who posts here is a part of a pack of wild dogs? I don't believe you. "Use the metaphors, Luke, the metaphors." May the metaphors be with you, Luke Skyhawker. Big Dave be lissen to nursie too much... ...telling me of acts of heroism... Acts of heroism? I don't believe you. Yup. And because they display bravery and heroism in the face of the old-timey exams and examiners, all who wish to enter the Kingdom must also face those same exams and examiners. The above is a perfect example of why I don't hang on your every word. It isn't factual and is certainly less than memorable. Big Dave not see "hostile action" outside of newsgroup? Tsk. But since those old-timey exams and examiners have gone away, all the new hammies are just not worthy. Common theme throughout R.R.A.P. Did you figure out that end-fed antenna yet? Big Dave feed his end too much? how you got the book and read it and went down to the steely-eyed fcc examiner and became a ham. No sir! No help from no one. Novice exams weren't taken in front of any FCC examiner, much less a stelly-eyed examiner. Steely-eyed. K8CFT wasn't steely-eyed at all. SK W8MN sparked my interest in becoming a ham but he couldn't learn the theory for me and I'd moved to a different town by the time I began practicing morse to increase my speed. So you knew hams prior to being licensed. That fits my story. So what are you disagreeing with now? Re-read the exchange above and get back to me. Why? Big Dave no understand it? Tsk. So Len could tell the kid to get a book. Oh, he wouldn't likely do that. He'd go into one of his Foghorn Lenhorn pontifications. Or he could drag out a box of out of band QSL cards... Any amateur radio QSLs Len could produce would be either "out of band" or would belong to someone else. This sub-thread NOT about me. Why Big Dave want to concentrate on personal attacks? Which according to your comment above, a book just isn't going to give sufficient information to be able to answer questions about amateur radio. A book can provide information to an extent. A book can provide everything needed to become an amateur. No good golfer became one by reading a book. No good fisherman became one by reading a book. Would you like to add a few more non-radio related categories to your list? No, but I'd like you to take my list as a whole because it illustrates precisely the idea that I'm attempting to convey. Attempt failed. Try again. :-) Hint: "Use the metaphors, Luke." :-) No good radio op became one by reading a book. Now you wish to qualify your statement with the word, "good," and change the subject matter from amateur radio operator to undifferentiated radio operator. You can add the word "amateur" before radio and the meaning is still the same. "Amateur amateur radio operator" oxymoron. Valve open your cannula, Big Dave...O-two not enough there. You have substantially changed the subject matter. Previously, the subject was a young, unlicensed person wanted to know about Amateur Radio. Have it your way. Actually, you have done so. You have Len suggesting a book. The fact is, Len has no practical experience in amateur radio. Riiiight...all newcomers to ham radio MUST have "practical experience" BEFORE getting ham license! :-) All newcomers thus become illegal. :-) One can become licensed in amateur radio simply by reading a -single- book and taking an exam. Unless you are saying that those PCTA's who told me so are liars. You're quite right. Someone can pass an exam and become a radio amateur. Absent practice and experience, that person can be a complete lid. Riiiiight...close all lids on amateur radio! Nothing open! Practice and experience are the keys. Of course, now that you've substantially changed the subject. Not really, Brian. You have Len suggesting a book. What's wrong with "Ham Radio for Dummies?" :-) This looks like ready reading audience for same... Len has neither. Above you say, "No good radio op became one by reading a book." You don't differentiate between amateur radio operators and military radio operators. Using your changed subject matter, Len has plenty of book reading, training, practice, and experience. I might add that he also has formal education in the subject matter. So Len is a good golfer? Why are you always referring to me? You obsessed with civilians, mighty amateur? Tsk. BTW...I used to shoot in the low 80s until the club made me give up my firearms... You guys play both ends against the middle, and now that you've worked down to the middle, your arguments fail because they are contradictory. Go argue with yourself. You, K8MN, are shucking and jiving. I'd say that they appear contradictory to you, "William", because you don't fully understand them. Of course. Heil knows all. He is the very definition of Omniscient. How would you know that unless you are (no cap necessary) omniscient? Heil know everything. He tell others he do. Redefines computer terms, knows all about software defined radios. Godlike. Gods are all omniscient. Very smart too. And all others are ignorant. Not at all. I've made no such statement. We have on occasion, found some areas where you have exhibited ignorance. Ignorance be capital crime in hum radio? Hum radio be closed to lids. Etc. "You don't need a former military weatherman to know which way the wind blows" Apparently, you do. I'd suggest you stop ****ing in the wind. One of my favorite country song titles, yet to be recorded: "If I Had It To Do All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You". Big Dave already **** in wind. Very unsanitary. Not couth. Vulgar. Clean up and say good night, Dave. Temper fry... LHA / WMD |
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