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June 20th 04, 02:39 PM
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Subject: BPL - UPLC -Repeat the lie three times and claim it for truth
From: "John Anderson" Date: 6/19/2004 7:52 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: qd5Bc.119983$3x.87399@attbi_s54 "N2EY" wrote in message ... I think/hope what will really kill BPL is economics. It simply won't be able to compete with DSL, cable and other technologies. 73 de Jim, N2EY Bush appointed Powell, lets boot Bush, replace him with anyone who will work for the people, not the rich corporations! And replace him with who? John Kerry? A guy who sat side-by-side with this Nation's disgrace, Jane "Hanoi" Fonda...?!?! Both of whom "support the troops" by making public statements that give aid and comfort to this Nation's foes WHILE we are in conflict with them...?!?! George Bush is not the most eloquent speaker and like any other Human Being, doesn't always get things right...But he's a man of TRUE moral conviction and honesty. Replacing him with a creep like Kerry would be a travesty and would send the wrong message to the World. This country got rid of one lying, deceiving creep and narrowly avoided electing another. Steve, K4YZ |
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#2
June 20th 04, 07:47 PM
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Yes,
We got rid of Nixon. Now we need to dump Bush. Best regards from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release Date: 6/18/04 |
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June 21st 04, 12:42 AM
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"Jim Hampton" wrote in message ...
Yes, We got rid of Nixon. Now we need to dump Bush. Best regards from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA Nixon resigned. We impeached Clinton because he didn't have the decency to resign. |
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June 21st 04, 03:09 AM
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"William" wrote in message om... "Jim Hampton" wrote in message ... Yes, We got rid of Nixon. Now we need to dump Bush. Best regards from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA Nixon resigned. We impeached Clinton because he didn't have the decency to resign. Nixon resigned after his friends on Capitol Hill told him they couldn't muster enough votes to avoid throwing him out of office. End of story. Clinton was not removed from office. What Clinton did was terrible to his wife and daughter, but what damage to the country (other than a major distraction) did it do? Are you so naive as to think that this huge deficit Bush is running won't hurt us? Already some want to reduce social security more. It isn't that social security is broke (and it appears to be in a bit better shape than they thought, but as good jobs disappear and are replaced by near minimum-wage jobs, I wouldn't bet); it is that the federal government has tapped the funds and issued IOUs to social security. They don't want to pay back money to the folks that need it the most. Rob from the poor and give to the rich. Go figure; make $1,000,000 on the stock market and you only pay $150,000 in tax (15%). Now, go get a $60,000 a year job and see what you pay in taxes. Don't forget that over 7.5% social security tax you pay (and my pension is reduced slightly due to my employer's social security contribution. Retirement based on income above the tax base results in higher percentage payment.) when you figure your tax load. Well, we finally got our high-speed ferry here in Rochester. Like all other high-profile projects (the new soccer stadium, the baseball stadium), the owners paid *far* less than they were originally supposed to. The taxpayers picked up the tab. Now we pay for security here, but Canada won't pay over there. Net result, before the first outing, prices were raised on vehicles and occupants as the ferry operator had to pay for security in Canada. Now, yesterday, we found out that for some reason the ferry folks got to take over most of the paved parking in a *public* park close to the ferry. I wonder why, since they raised the cost per vehicle. A *public* park, but in those spaces, they charge you $5.00 per day to park. Where are all of the whiners that complain about welfare? Oh, I forgot; that doesn't apply to *corporate* welfare. Compassionate conservative *IS* an oxymoron. I don't need any more idiots in Washington running *huge* deficits to benefit the rich. Best regards from Rochester, NY Jim --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release Date: 6/18/04 |
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June 21st 04, 03:24 PM
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Subject: BPL - UPLC -Repeat the lie three times and claim it for truth
From: "Jim Hampton" Date: 6/20/2004 9:09 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: Clinton was not removed from office. What Clinton did was terrible to his wife and daughter, but what damage to the country (other than a major distraction) did it do? He lied...repeatedly, under oath, looking Hillary and US directly in the eyes. That America kept looking the other way was the second biggest travesty. Oh well... Are you so naive as to think that this huge deficit Bush is running won't hurt us? Already some want to reduce social security more. It isn't that social security is broke (and it appears to be in a bit better shape than they thought, but as good jobs disappear and are replaced by near minimum-wage jobs, I wouldn't bet); it is that the federal government has tapped the funds and issued IOUs to social security. They don't want to pay back money to the folks that need it the most. Rob from the poor and give to the rich. Too bad folks didn't spend some more time reading Steve Forbes' plan for restructuring the tax system in this country. Compassionate conservative *IS* an oxymoron. I don't need any more idiots in Washington running *huge* deficits to benefit the rich. Why is it that we Americans always brag how anyone with the right motivation and determination can become a millionaire, yet when they do it, we take gleeful delight in doing/saying what we can to bring them down? 73 Steve, K4YZ |
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June 21st 04, 05:30 PM
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Steve,
I have no problem with someone being rich; I have a problem when I pay a higher percentage of my pay to taxes than they do. Please don't tell me you are so naive that you think that the wealthy always pay a higher percentage in taxes. Fortunately, one overhaul in social security plugged one big hole. Social security used to be based on the highest three earning years in the last 10. I knew one businessman that paid himself quite poorly, taking most of the money as unearned income (thus exempt from social security). Fact is, I know a businesswoman doing the same thing. What happens is they start paying themselves handsomely the last few years (and paying those payroll taxes too). As a result, they pay over 20 or 30 years half what others pay and collect at 100% social security. Unfortunately for both of these folks, they changed social security so it is based on the 30 highest earning years, so now they get a lot less. But that loophole existed for years. Why is it that these "compassionate" conservatives can stand by and watch school districts with 30 plus students in a classroom whilst a suburban school has only 20 per class and every 8th grader receives a *laptop computer* and honestly believe that everything is just fine? How did New York state, in calculating aid to school districts, manage to count every student in NYC as 0.7 student? You are gullible at best. I'm not mad at you, just upset at priorities in this country. Remember too that the whole world is watching this country to see if our actions anywhere correspond to what we are saying. If I were a European nation, I'd not only be a bit skeptical, I'd be nervous too. 73, Jim AA2QA --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release Date: 6/18/04 |
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June 22nd 04, 02:48 AM
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Hello, Len
Guess I get my dander up too at times. Certainly it is wrong to paint "all" Republicans or "all" Democrates or "all" of any one group with a wide brush. Not good at all. Besides, I've gotten led off-topic - not good at all. I have figured it out, Len. The problem is we are dropping the Morse requirements. Dang, now my washing machine is going to over-suds again  However, BPL should help the situation. If BPL is going to reduce power line noise (according to power companies), it should reduce my washer over-sudsing since it runs from the mains. LOL. Have a good one! 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release Date: 6/18/04 |
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June 22nd 04, 12:05 PM
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"Jim Hampton" wrote in message ...
"William" wrote in message om... "Jim Hampton" wrote in message ... Yes, We got rid of Nixon. Now we need to dump Bush. Best regards from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA Nixon resigned. We impeached Clinton because he didn't have the decency to resign. Nixon resigned after his friends on Capitol Hill told him they couldn't muster enough votes to avoid throwing him out of office. End of story. No, not the end of the story. But there would be no point in discussing it with a closed-minded person such as yourself. Clinton was not removed from office. Then what was the purpose of impeaching him? He thwarted the efforts of honest people by not having the decency to leave. What Clinton did was terrible to his wife and daughter, I really don't want to know what he did to his wife and daughter. The details of what he did to Monica was bad enough. but what damage to the country (other than a major distraction) did it do? Our government and our monetary system is a confidence game. When our leaders go south, our confidence goes south, and our economy goes south. Are you so naive as to think that this huge deficit Bush is running won't hurt us? Are you so naive as to think that we haven't seen huge defecits before, even when they were for unnecessary social spending? Already some want to reduce social security more. It isn't that social security is broke (and it appears to be in a bit better shape than they thought, But, assuming that you are a Social Security recipient, you just got a prescription drug benefit. but as good jobs disappear and are replaced by near minimum-wage jobs, I wouldn't bet); Yes, swapping out our manufacturing jobs for service jobs is the wrong path. it is that the federal government has tapped the funds and issued IOUs to social security. They don't want to pay back money They'll just print more. Remember the "confidence game?" to the folks that need it the most. Rob from the poor and give to the rich. I'm beginning to think that I'll never be able to retire and spend my Golden Years learning fast code like I have wanted to. Instead I'll be working to support people who no longer work or never did work. Go figure; make $1,000,000 on the stock market and you only pay $150,000 in tax (15%). Now, go get a $60,000 a year job and see what you pay in taxes. Don't forget that over 7.5% social security tax you pay (and my pension is reduced slightly due to my employer's social security contribution. Retirement based on income above the tax base results in higher percentage payment.) when you figure your tax load. I have been pondering the concept of "individual" and that of "corporation." I'm told that a corporation has the rights of an individual. A corporation has inputs and outputs. When the outputs excede the inputs, it is called profit. The profit is taxed. An individual has inputs and outputs. All inputs are taxed. Well, we finally got our high-speed ferry here in Rochester. Like all other high-profile projects (the new soccer stadium, the baseball stadium), the owners paid *far* less than they were originally supposed to. The taxpayers picked up the tab. The Church of Sweat. Sports are a religion. Seperation of Church and State. Now we pay for security here, but Canada won't pay over there. Net result, before the first outing, prices were raised on vehicles and occupants as the ferry operator had to pay for security in Canada. Now, yesterday, we found out that for some reason the ferry folks got to take over most of the paved parking in a *public* park close to the ferry. I wonder why, since they raised the cost per vehicle. A *public* park, but in those spaces, they charge you $5.00 per day to park. I used to pay for parking in St. Louis. I can't deduct parking as part of my costs to earn my income. Where are all of the whiners that complain about welfare? Oh, I forgot; that doesn't apply to *corporate* welfare. It does. Compassionate conservative *IS* an oxymoron. I don't need any more idiots in Washington running *huge* deficits to benefit the rich. Bush is spending money like a drunken sailor or marine. I'm tired of it. Best regards from Rochester, NY Jim --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release Date: 6/18/04 |
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June 22nd 04, 01:04 PM
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Subject: BPL - UPLC -Repeat the lie three times and claim it for truth
From: (William) Date: 6/22/2004 6:05 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: "Jim Hampton" wrote in message ... "William" wrote in message om... "Jim Hampton" wrote in message ... Yes, We got rid of Nixon. Now we need to dump Bush. Best regards from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA Nixon resigned. We impeached Clinton because he didn't have the decency to resign. Nixon resigned after his friends on Capitol Hill told him they couldn't muster enough votes to avoid throwing him out of office. End of story. No, not the end of the story. But there would be no point in discussing it with a closed-minded person such as yourself. Brain-to-English Translation: "Uh oh...I'm getting backed into yet another corner...Better make an excuse and bug-out while I am still ahead" Clinton was not removed from office. Then what was the purpose of impeaching him? He thwarted the efforts of honest people by not having the decency to leave. Yep. What Clinton did was terrible to his wife and daughter, I really don't want to know what he did to his wife and daughter. The details of what he did to Monica was bad enough. but what damage to the country (other than a major distraction) did it do? Our government and our monetary system is a confidence game. When our leaders go south, our confidence goes south, and our economy goes south. Oh CRAP!....Brian and I are in complete agreement with something! THIS is SCARY! Are you so naive as to think that this huge deficit Bush is running won't hurt us? Are you so naive as to think that we haven't seen huge defecits before, even when they were for unnecessary social spending? THAT'S TWICE! I am getting a cold shivver! Already some want to reduce social security more. It isn't that social security is broke (and it appears to be in a bit better shape than they thought, But, assuming that you are a Social Security recipient, you just got a prescription drug benefit. but as good jobs disappear and are replaced by near minimum-wage jobs, I wouldn't bet); Yes, swapping out our manufacturing jobs for service jobs is the wrong path. It's a DIFFERENT path. We can do both, it's just the transition that's worrisome. We demand "change" but get paranoid and run scared when someone actually does it! I'm beginning to think that I'll never be able to retire and spend my Golden Years learning fast code like I have wanted to. Instead I'll be working to support people who no longer work or never did work. No one "learn(s)" "fast code"...One ACHIEVES it through practice and use. You either know the Morse Code or you don't. Otherwise I share some of the same concerns...Good thing to have other money in the bank, but I wonder what scam will arise in order to get their hands on THAT! Compassionate conservative *IS* an oxymoron. I don't need any more idiots in Washington running *huge* deficits to benefit the rich. Bush is spending money like a drunken sailor or marine. I'm tired of it. And you expect WHAT to be different if a Demoncrat is elected? 73 Steve, K4YZ |
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