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July 18th 04, 11:37 PM
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Subject: FCC Morse testing at 16 and 20 WPM
From: PAMNO (N2EY) Date: 7/18/2004 10:42 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Len Over 21) writes: What has nursie done in that other "SOME" of radio? Answrer: Nottadamnthing. :-) Then he shouldn't be making the rules for it...right? I don't! And I see Lennie is making typos! Must be ANGRY ANGRY ANGRY ! ! ! =) Also zero-point-zero experience in "emergency communications". WRONG. Use Rev. Jim's Time Mashine and go back to 1994. Some earth-shaking news awaits you, nursie. What did you do back then, Len? And why are you still living in the past? 1994 was TEN YEARS AGO ;-) ;-) And even MORE typos. He's REALLY mad! His "traffic handling" experience was as a radio clerk in the Army in the FIFTIES, and his experience in practical avionics goes back to his days as a STUDENT (never licensed) pilot back when Lear organ-grinder radios were the "state of the art". WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. Tsk, tsk, tsk. How is it wrong? It's not. At least according to his very own words. Maybe he finally joined that REACT group...?!?! MOS 281.6 - Microwave Radio Relay Operations and Service Supervisor plus brevet MOSs of Fixed Station Transmitter Operations and Service, Carrier Systems Operations and Service. [the "point-6" in that old MOS numbering is the indicator of supervisory duties which I had as an E-5 S/Sgt] 1953 to 1956. "Three up and one down" after just 2 1/2 years. Earned. So? That was your *job*, wasn't it, Len? NOW he was a STAFF SERGEANT! For the last eight years he's been insisting he was "only" a Sergeant. Guess he figured after the battlefield sacrifices he made and all the fights he's fought in this forum he deserved a promotion. Congratulations, Lennie! What's interesting is that you don;t mention that there were more than 700 *other* people at ADA when you were there... Of course not! HE handles ALL one-point-two million of those messages! Him! Alone! "Practical avionics" includes airborne radar (both military and civilian), airborne radionavigation equipment (TACAN, DME, VOR, Localizer, Glideslope, and Marker Beacon) plus several missle systems which few will know about, such as the old Hughes Aircraft "Falcon" series or "Maverick." That at, in chronological order, Ramo-Wooldridge (the "R" and "W" of TRW now), Micro-Radionics Inc., Van Nuys, CA, EOS [Electro-Optical Systems] a division of Xerox, Pasadena, CA (mostly spacecraft stuff), RCA Corporation EASD (Electro- magnetic and Aviation Systems Division), Van Nuys, CA, Hughes Aircraft Missle Division (Hughes for the 2nd time, this at the same buildings once leased by R-W), Canoga Park, CA, and Teledyne Electronics, Newbury Park, CA [designers and manufacturers of military transponders, what civilians call "IFF"]. Wanna talk how that marvelous VOR works? No problem...old NARCO box or an RCA 3 1/2" instrument package that has it all...Nav and Com, with MB and LOC and GS all packed in behind the OBS. Wanna talk ground station VOR or TACAN? No problem there, either. Wanna talk on-the-air while airborne? No problem, done that too and not just with some UNICOM at a grass field. More like the Western Airlines maintenance facility at LAX. So...did you work at all those places or just talk about them? Were you in sole charge, or part of a much larger team? Hey...just how many fl;oors can a janitor clean at once anyway, Jim...?!?! He HAD to have had help! As for experience in aeronautical navigation he's pretty well shown us what he "knows" in here. BTW, oh great and ignorant bird of the radio universe, the Army didn't have a "message center" at ADA. Other Army message centers fed it and were fed in turn...ADA kept the radio circuits working. With over 700 people, when you were there. Yet you don't mention the team, just yourself. Interesting, very interesting. Not "interesting", Jim...just status quo.... They still do that as they did at Fort Irwin in 1989 for regimental level field radio (quite a bit different than 35 years prior). And they manage quite well without you, Len. No manual telegraphy in the 50s, not in the 80s, the 90s, or this new millennium. So? Sunnuvagun! Who would a thought it? No CW! :-) How is that relevant to amateur radio? It's not. But it's all the Putz has to hold on to, so he'll keep reciting it over and over and over and..... Would you want HIM making binding decisions for you in regards to Amateur Radio policy? Yes, why trust the FCC to regulate amateur radio? You're not the FCC, Len. Uh oh! Don't tell HIM that! None at the FCC need have ham licenses to do that. Actually, there are a few hams at FCC, making the rules and recommendations about those rules. More importantly, those folks are professional regulatory people. You're not. Riiiiiight...keep the beepers in charge of hum raddio...those mighty macho morsemen keeping the airwaves pristine with the musick of morse as they did in the old, old days. Archaic Radio Service, the ARS of yeasteryear! [all rise...] Sounds like you are jealous, Len. More foolish than jealous. Want radio OPERATING? Sure. No problem. Done it from land, from water, from a cockpit while aloft. Want space comms? Sorry, you can't do that yet, NASA can't afford to send Morose Dysfunctionals off on expensive spaceships. I'll just stand in the JPL mission control room (as I've done for a few missions) and watch the live data come in from Mars or wherever. That be happy. I've "worked" a station ON the moon. Stalker Stevie never did. Just a spectator. Naaaaaaah...I just bounced signals off the moon. Lennie hasn't done that. Goldstone more fun place, though it be hot, hot. Clear Lake fun for a visit but I wouldn't wanna work there ("failure no option" in the old days, not quite so now). Wanna get up at Oh-Dark- Thirty to prep telemetry for an avionics package on a fast mover? Done that too. Edwards. China Lake. Kern County Airport #7 (Mojave). Phooey, like my mornings quiet and late. Who needs all that sweat to push envelopes? :-) Given my sweat, pushed an envelope a couple times, sweated in the labs producing goodness and newness, seen it work. Just another groundpounder. Heck, even I can use the lingo. But you keep reliving the past, leaving out the important details. I am sure that Lennie pushed a LOT of envelopes...That broom was able to collect a lot of debris. Ham radio would be fun. It is. But you're just a spectator there, too. It IS fun! What really burns your bacon is that even with all your alleged professional experience, the FCC won't act on your recommendations and those of us who actually *are* radio amateurs won't bow down to you. And despite all your verbiage, you can't get some of us to respond in kind to your name calling and other word games. Bingo! But, all the "intelligent people" wanna recreate the hoary halcion days of the 1920s and 1930s. How, Len? By requiring a simple one-time 5 wpm code test? Methinks you dost protest too much. Methinks he is still marking time in 1953, defending the ramparts of ADA against any idea of anyone other than him knowing how a radio works. Sucks to be Lennie! 73 Steve, K4YZ |
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