Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: (William)
Date: 9/7/2004 3:13 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
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Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: (William)
Date: 9/7/2004 8:33 AM Central Standard Time
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(Quitefine) wrote in message
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In article ,

(Len Over 21) writes:

Any Canadian radio amateurs care to comment on that?

Why do you specify only
"Canadian radio amateurs"?

What about Canadians who
are not radio amateurs?

I beleive that the same rules apply as in the USA. Non-amateur may
have an opinion, but that opinion is uninformed and is readily
discarded by the amateur elite.

There is no "amateur elite",

You are right. But there are those who think they are elite.

unless, of course, you refer to folks like
W1RFI, K1EA, etc etc.

And there are those who think others are elite.

They are.

They have made many admirable accomplishments worhty of praise and
accolade.

THAT makes them "elite".

Then there are those who have CLAIMED to have been places and done things
in Amateur Radio...BTW...How ya coming on getting those T5 logs approved for
DXCC credit?

And NO opinons are "readily discarded", Brain...even yours.

You trample them first.

But antagaonistic, spiteful insults are.

You are preaching about antag[a]onistic and spiteful remarks?

I am not preaching, Brain. Just observiing and commenting.

Antag[a]onistic and spiteful remarks define your RRAP career,
sprinkled with a large dose of insanity.

What career?

What insanity?

(Still waiting on YOUR healthcare credentials, Brain...)

Your bunk buddy

I have no bunk buddy.

Sure you do. Lennie AND Mrs Brain. One figuratively, the other
literally.

had to push a lot of buttons and hurl a lot of insults to
get himself to where he is today...scorned and dismissed by anyone who has
even
the least amount of awareness of the factual circumstances of what the
Amateur
Radio service is, what it has accomplished in the past and where it's
going in
the future.

Factual circumstances like, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio!"

The spirit of what makes Amateurs "Amateurs" still is, despite your
efftorts to the contrary, pervasive in the MARS program.

The MARS programs, in thier current configuration, will cease to function
if the thousands of volunteer AMATEURS who man them suddenly elected to NOT
participate.

Hi, Hi!

You're laughing at yourself and too ignorant to realize it.

You're not far behind, but I think folks view you more as the Organ
Grinder's monkey...jumping when you hear your master's music play.

You are certainly no one's master, not even of yourself.

Ahhhhhhhhh...But I AM...! ! ! !

Best of luck.

As long as you keep making it so easy to do, Brain, no "luck" is needed.
You just keep dropping the NG cow patties and we point and laugh.

Again.

Steve, K4YZ

In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Quitefine) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Len Over 21) writes:

Any Canadian radio amateurs care to comment on that?

Why do you specify only
"Canadian radio amateurs"?

What about Canadians who
are not radio amateurs?

I beleive that the same rules apply as in the USA. Non-amateur may
have an opinion, but that opinion is uninformed and is readily
discarded by the amateur elite.

Jimmie Who is trolling with that "message," Brian.

There is no troll. We asked a
question.

You specified "Canadian radio amateurs"
Why?

Canada is a nation of democratic principles. A good neighbor.
Their amateur radio is not "ruled" by straight-laced olde-tymers
of radiotelegraphy. That irks the very non-independent thinking
Believers who only venerate the past and vilify those harboring
heretical independent thought. shrug

Of whom do you speak?

In article , Leo
writes:

BTW, if we keep this up, you might be in danger of buggering up your
reputation with - ahem - some of the regulars here as a difficult guy
to converse with.... :) :) :)

There is no difficulty
in conversing with Len.

All anyone must do is agree
with everything he writes,
and he becomes a pussycat.

Disagree with him, and the
difficulties begin.

In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:

By the way, since your Lordship doesn't understand it, I'm NOT
itching to get that mighty Nobel-quality amateur license...I'm just
trying to argue for the elimination of the morse code test for any
radio operator license.

Why?

If you have no interest in
becoming a radio amateur,
why do you attempt to
change the rules?

William wrote:

(Quitefine) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:

Any Canadian radio amateurs care to comment on that?

Why do you specify only
"Canadian radio amateurs"?

What about Canadians who
are not radio amateurs?

I beleive that the same rules apply as in the USA. Non-amateur may
have an opinion, but that opinion is uninformed and is readily
discarded by the amateur elite.

It looks as if you're confused again, "William". Len not only isn't
part of the amateur elite, he isn't part of amateur radio in the U.S. or
Canada at all. Yet he has been quick to demand a say in how U.S.
amateur radio is regulated. Wouldn't he automatically be interested in
how non-radio amateurs in Canada think about their regulatory changes?

It looks like the old "William"/"Avery" double standard.

Dave K8MN

Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: (William)
Date: 9/7/2004 8:39 PM Central Standard Time
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
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Hey Dave...Plagerism earned him "big bucks" from Ham Radio
magazine...you
know...that DEFUNCT periodical that he was such a bigwig at....

If only "Ham Radio" magazine were in publication today to run your
"Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio!" and other idiotic ideas.
But hey, there's QST, CQ, and World Radio. Go for it.

Too bad you're still quoting out of context.

But I guess that's the ONLY way you can "make a point".

You failed with your "I operated legally from Somalia" stories and your
"Unlicensed devices play a major role in emergency comms" efforts.

You're doing just as badly with your out-of-context "MARS ISAmateur
Radio" recitings.

Still sucks to be you. Still not getting it right.

Oh well......

Steve, K4YZ

"Avery Hightower" wrote in message link.net...
The Notice is available at:

http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/inter.../sf06456e.html

A very interesting proposal!

What I find most interesting is that the proposal does *not* simply
say "drop the code test and leave everything else alone" - as did the
NCI proposal. Instead, it beefs up the written requirements by
requiring a higher passing grade. It also proposes *adding* license
classes.... (So much for simplifying the rules...)

The analysis of the multiple-choice testing method and guessing is
very interesting, showing how a limited knowledge of the material plus
guessing can result in a passing grade. The 60% passing requirement
seems low to me, but I suppose that our ~74% level would seem low to
others.

It's a refreshing change from the ARRL "Great Giveaway" proposal, and
the much much worse NCVEC "Much Greater Giveaway" proposal.

It will also be interesting to see how Canadians react to the proposal
in their comments.

73 de Jim, N2EY