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Len Over 21 wrote:
In article , (William) writes: Dave Heil wrote in message ... William wrote: Dave Heil wrote in message ... Len may not operate radio equipment under Part 97 of the FCC regs. Len may operate -amateur- radio equipment while you are the control operator. Like hell he will with me as the control op. There's the amateur spirit. Another good example of olde-tyme hamme thinking. :-) I don't know about the "old time ham" part. I can assure you that it is good thinking. Might be a "spirit" that comes out of a bottle... Actually, I've already done that "operator" thing with a fully-licensed, all-papers-open-for-inspection-for-any-A.S.S.-offizier as the "control op." :-) Bully for you. That does not make you a radio amateur. Poor Dave. He's run out of valid replies and has to use the "I've- been-licensed-forty-one-years-and-you've-not!" ploy. As an amateur. shrug "I've been licensed for six months and you are not" would work just as well. Tsk. I was first licensed as a "first" radio operator 48 years ago... actually 48 1/2 years to get into his uber-nit-pickyness. :-) Three years before that I started in operating high-power HF transmitters without any license whatsoever, without any Signal School training on HF transmitters, without any training whatsoever in or about morse code. :-) Bully for you. I keyed my first government transmitter 36 years ago at age 19, well ahead of your schedule. It didn't make me a radio amateur. Of course I was *already* a radio amateur... Tsk. It gets worse for Dave. I've actually operated transmitters as a civilian without once having to show or log my "first" license. Bully for you, though I don't see how it is bad, much less "worse" for me. That has nothing to do with obtaining an amateur radio license. If you're just out to trot out your tired, old brag, might I suggest alt.radio.commercial.look.what.I.can.do. All perfectly legal, too. No need for most Department of Defense contractors. [DoD isn't ruled by FCC or any "Riley"] Nope, nuthin' here about amateur radio. Dave ought to take up nursie's veiled threats of "using his professional license to call the authorities to 'pick me up.'" This time on emitting RF without having a valid amateur radio license! As far as I'm concerned, you're right where you belong already. Just continue to pad around in your small but paid for, expensive home. Occasionally, you can look out the window and see some of the other inmates. Or, he might take to veiled threats against my wife (like nursie did) or sign his name "Dave and the Boys" at the end of a posting. :-) There's no need, Leonard. Your wife already has her cross to bear. Or, he could become an anonymousie lurking in the baseboards of newsgroups, afraid of the daylight, jumping out to bite at grown- ups. Nah. Davie das uber-oberst thinks too much of himself to do that... Yes, I do think too much of myself to do that. I wonder what the Canadians think about all this "show-your-papers!" demanding? :-) To you, "Len Anderson is not a radio amateur" equates to a demand. Dave K8MN |
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Dave Heil wrote in message ...
I don't think of Len as someone from the dark side. I think of him as a flake. Dave K8MN Hey, I'm with you. The last geode my son and I split open had this beautiful silver crystal flake inside. Just magnificent! Alas, it has been a few years and the flake is now tarnished, but still magnificent. With a 20X loupe, you could get lost just looking at it. Speaking of getting lost, how have you been? bb |
(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (William) writes: Dave Heil wrote in message ... William wrote: (Quitefine) wrote in message ... In article , (William) writes: (Quitefine) wrote in message ... In article , (Len Over 21) writes: Every American should have an interest in increasing the number of potential emergency radio operators. A valid point. However, Len does not agree that amateur radio plays any significant role in emergency communications. Must Len agree with everything? Awwww, cut it out, "William"! My sides hurt from laughing. Dave K8MN Maybe it's bad branch water affecting your kidneys. Think of it as a "do or die-uretic" he regularly uses... :-) I think being denied amateur privs in Vietnam changed his whole outlook on life. |
(Quitefine) wrote in message ...
In article , (William) writes: (Quitefine) wrote in message ... In article , (William) writes: (Quitefine) wrote in message ... In article , (Len Over 21) writes: By the way, since your Lordship doesn't understand it, I'm NOT itching to get that mighty Nobel-quality amateur license...I'm just trying to argue for the elimination of the morse code test for any radio operator license. Why? If you have no interest in becoming a radio amateur, why do you attempt to change the rules? Every American should have an interest in increasing the number of potential emergency radio operators. A valid point. However, Len does not agree that amateur radio plays any significant role in emergency communications. Must Len agree with everything? No. No??? NO!!! Then what must Len agree with? However, logical consistency requires that if someone is going to {{{claim}}}} make the emergency radio operator argument, then they must also agree that amateur radio plays a significant role in emergency communications. Not everyone need make that argument. Need everyone with an amateur license perform emergency comms? Some only have a license so they can get cool personalized license plates. Of course, we have noted that logical consistency is not one of Len's strong points. But it is. Yet logical consistency would demand that upright amateurs disapprove of Steve Robeson/K4YZ/K4CAP's behavio[u]r. But you don't. Some people say that cellular telephones have no significant role in emergency communications, Those people are mistaken. Well, well. If only Almostintimefine had chimed in six moths ago. As it is, you've allowed the naysayers to think legitimate civilian communication systems are to be shunned. yet about every footage of hurricane action film depicted an official with a cellular telephone. Of course. Of course. Some people say that amateur radio has no significant role in emergency communications, because of cellilar phones. cellular. They are mistaken, too. Of course. The valid point is that cellular phones cannot be absolutely relied upon for emergency communications. What can be absolutely relied upon for emergency communications? You just never know when you might need one, If so, why have any tests at all? Because we already have a radio service without tests which can be used for emergency communications. What radio service is that? The services presently covered under Part 95. How well does it function in emergencies? Depends on how many trash mouths have emergency power, or how many trash mouths in the unaffected area want to interfere in legitimate emergency comms. and Morse Code just isn't needed to be an effective emergency radio operator. Morse Code has had a role in some emergency communications recently. These are well documented by people who participated. Do tell. Even today. Citations? However, to claim that every radio amateur must be tested on Morse Code because there might someday be a need to use it in an emergency is quite a stretch of credibility. An incredible stretch. Most incredible, to be quite accurate. An impossible stretch, 1991. Now let's discuss HF. It is clear that Len's interest goes far beyond eliminating the Morse Code test.\ He wants to eliminate the morse code test. And much more. I'm the one who wants one license. I don't recall him calling for any particular license structure other than the elimination of a Morse Code Exam for HF access. If you have information that contradicts what I've just posted I'd like to see it. To quote a wise one: "It is not the Morse, but the hatred" I'm not familiar with that wise one. Who is it? Blackguard Vox Deus Ah, yes, Darkguard. I've heard him. He hails from the dark side. He/she has demonstrated wisdom here. So has Jim but he is not revered. Repeatedly. Repeatedly. But he has gone over to the dark side also. He condones K4YZ behavio[u]r. |
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(Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , Dave Heil das Oberst uff das Amatur Schutz Staffell writes: William wrote: ...beat up on the cordless Techs. Gotta love it. I guess that's what they mean by wireless. Ah, you actually got a gig as an Otto Preminger imitator? Good for you. Feel free to make fun of everybody's postings by writing more of such "comments" in here...especially those whom you've been unable to get along with for years. You are posting to yourself again. Odd that you say that. I see him posting to David. I guess it's all a matter of relativity. I stand out in the light, and can see clearly. You stand in the dark... Here's a nice little synopsis of the not-so-robust oberst: "No matter what job, educational level, employer, or government/military service that anyone has, if said anyone opposes Heil's views, he/she will be the target of Heil's insults, ridicule, name-calling, factual errors, ethnic slurs, total lack of emoticons and social-interaction graces, acting in an arrogant, elitist manner...for years" :-) Again with the post containing much of the insulting behaviour you profess to find in others. It is not accurate? The only thing I find inaccurate is the smiley emoticon at the very end. Do not be too cruel to these people you disdain. You need them much more than they need you. Dave refused to entertain the idea of Len operating from his shack. Great posterboy for amateur mentorship (formerly known as "Elmer."). Pbthththth... Finally, you write something that makes sense. Ptui! But is the first part pronounced "pib" or "Pub" or "puhb"? You say it makes sense, but you don't know what it is? And yet you are acclaimed as the wise one? I am curious but yet still in need of a vowel. ....Curi_us Ge_rge _f the Jungle? |
William wrote:
Dave Heil wrote in message ... I don't think of Len as someone from the dark side. I think of him as a flake. Hey, I'm with you. The last geode my son and I split open had this beautiful silver crystal flake inside. Just magnificent! Alas, it has been a few years and the flake is now tarnished, but still magnificent. With a 20X loupe, you could get lost just looking at it. Len's geode split open decades back and he's been sitting around a long time. You can imagine how tarnished he is. Speaking of getting lost, how have you been? I've been fine. Then again, I'm not lost. Dave K8MN |
William wrote:
(Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (William) writes: Dave Heil wrote in message ... William wrote: (Quitefine) wrote in message ... In article , (William) writes: (Quitefine) wrote in message ... In article , (Len Over 21) writes: Every American should have an interest in increasing the number of potential emergency radio operators. A valid point. However, Len does not agree that amateur radio plays any significant role in emergency communications. Must Len agree with everything? Awwww, cut it out, "William"! My sides hurt from laughing. Dave K8MN Maybe it's bad branch water affecting your kidneys. Think of it as a "do or die-uretic" he regularly uses... :-) I think being denied amateur privs in Vietnam changed his whole outlook on life. It certainly did. I never worked for another outfit which had any say in whether I could obtain an amateur radio license overseas. Dave K8MN |
"William" wrote You consistently misspell "thier." Are you in a rage or are you just ignorant? And you just misspelled "their". You don't seem to be in a rage, so I'll draw the obvious conclusion. With all kind wishes, de Hans, K0HB |
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