On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 00:11:26 GMT, King Zulu wrote:

I begin to wonder if current FCC people realize that it has
been 17 years or more since the FCC was first going to fix the problem.

Gone are the "good old days" when the FCC could get a court order
and the US Marshals to enforce same "just for the asking". Neither
the courts nor the Justice Department are interested in doing that
anymore where the sole issue is violation of FCC Rules without
anything else, such as national security or criminal activities
involved..... but that doesn't mean that they won't whenever they
so desire.

The present Enforcement Bureau people are used to working problems
out by exchange of correspondence and lawyer-to-lawyer however long
that takes, rather than getting a task force together with raid
jackets and bolt cutters and taking care of business.

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

Phil Kane wrote:

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 00:11:26 GMT, King Zulu wrote:


I begin to wonder if current FCC people realize that it has
been 17 years or more since the FCC was first going to fix the problem.


Gone are the "good old days" when the FCC could get a court order
and the US Marshals to enforce same "just for the asking". Neither
the courts nor the Justice Department are interested in doing that
anymore where the sole issue is violation of FCC Rules without
anything else, such as national security or criminal activities
involved..... but that doesn't mean that they won't whenever they
so desire.

The present Enforcement Bureau people are used to working problems
out by exchange of correspondence and lawyer-to-lawyer however long
that takes, rather than getting a task force together with raid
jackets and bolt cutters and taking care of business.

But hasn't enough time passed for resolution of this problem even done
that way, Phil? Here is a person in clear violation of many rules, and
also in violation of criminal statutes too, and yet they must be
powerless to do anything.

Or IS the fact that the League has it's own broadcasts a nasty sticking
point?

- Mike KB3EIA -

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Phil Kane wrote:

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 00:11:26 GMT, King Zulu wrote:


I begin to wonder if current FCC people realize that it has
been 17 years or more since the FCC was first going to fix the problem.


Gone are the "good old days" when the FCC could get a court order
and the US Marshals to enforce same "just for the asking". Neither
the courts nor the Justice Department are interested in doing that
anymore where the sole issue is violation of FCC Rules without
anything else, such as national security or criminal activities
involved..... but that doesn't mean that they won't whenever they
so desire.

The present Enforcement Bureau people are used to working problems
out by exchange of correspondence and lawyer-to-lawyer however long
that takes, rather than getting a task force together with raid
jackets and bolt cutters and taking care of business.

But hasn't enough time passed for resolution of this problem even done
that way, Phil? Here is a person in clear violation of many rules, and
also in violation of criminal statutes too, and yet they must be
powerless to do anything.

Or IS the fact that the League has it's own broadcasts a nasty sticking
point?

- Mike KB3EIA -

Probably a combination of both Mike.
The only thing that MAN has going for him
is that he lives way up in the boonies of Maine.
If he were located in a more 'urban populated' area
it's a guess someone would have probably either cut 5'
sections out of his coax, or took a power saw
cutting wheel to the base of his antenna tower at
3:00 AM a long time ago. (Not that I am condoning or
suggesting any such activity by anyone mind you. I do
not in fact!) Just that for the most part I have observed
that ham QRM'ers and people like CB'er's who cause TVI
located in the more densely populated suburban areas seem to have
their neighbors find the source of the problem and
take 'corrective measures' rather sooner than the FCC does!

On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 21:10:54 -0400, Mike Coslo wrote:

But hasn't enough time passed for resolution of this problem even done
that way, Phil? Here is a person in clear violation of many rules, and
also in violation of criminal statutes too, and yet they must be
powerless to do anything.

Powerless they are not, but I don't walk in Riley's moccasins as to
whether the power is going to be exercised or not. HQ and I had
differening views on using letter-writing versus on-scene enforcement
over the years.

Or IS the fact that the League has it's own broadcasts a nasty sticking
point?

Who knows ??

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

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On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 21:10:54 -0400, Mike Coslo wrote:

But hasn't enough time passed for resolution of this problem even done
that way, Phil? Here is a person in clear violation of many rules, and
also in violation of criminal statutes too, and yet they must be
powerless to do anything.

Powerless they are not, but I don't walk in Riley's moccasins as to
whether the power is going to be exercised or not. HQ and I had
differening views on using letter-writing versus on-scene enforcement
over the years.

Or IS the fact that the League has it's own broadcasts a nasty sticking
point?

Who knows ??

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane


Phil,

Whenever the subject of K1MAN comes up there is always some block head that
insists on compairing him to W1AW.

During your tenure with the Feds did you happen to hear of a anti stupid
pill that would be available for these folks?

Dan/W4NTI

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On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 21:10:54 -0400, Mike Coslo wrote:

But hasn't enough time passed for resolution of this problem even done
that way, Phil? Here is a person in clear violation of many rules, and
also in violation of criminal statutes too, and yet they must be
powerless to do anything.

Powerless they are not, but I don't walk in Riley's moccasins as to
whether the power is going to be exercised or not. HQ and I had
differening views on using letter-writing versus on-scene enforcement
over the years.

Or IS the fact that the League has it's own broadcasts a nasty sticking
point?

Who knows ??

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane


Phil,

Whenever the subject of K1MAN comes up there is always some block head that
insists on compairing him to W1AW.

During your tenure with the Feds did you happen to hear of a anti stupid
pill that would be available for these folks?

Dan/W4NTI

This is just another case where the FCC fell on it's face in the rules
making department. They tried to write a rule where only the ARRL
would qualify.

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On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 21:10:54 -0400, Mike Coslo wrote:

But hasn't enough time passed for resolution of this problem even
done
that way, Phil? Here is a person in clear violation of many rules,
and
also in violation of criminal statutes too, and yet they must be
powerless to do anything.

Powerless they are not, but I don't walk in Riley's moccasins as to
whether the power is going to be exercised or not. HQ and I had
differening views on using letter-writing versus on-scene
enforcement
over the years.

Or IS the fact that the League has it's own broadcasts a nasty
sticking
point?

Who knows ??

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane


Phil,

Whenever the subject of K1MAN comes up there is always some block head
that
insists on compairing him to W1AW.

During your tenure with the Feds did you happen to hear of a anti stupid
pill that would be available for these folks?

Dan/W4NTI

This is just another case where the FCC fell on it's face in the rules
making department. They tried to write a rule where only the ARRL
would qualify.

Those rules lets anyone qualify. All they have to do is abide by the rules.
K1MAN does not abide by the rules.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

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On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 21:10:54 -0400, Mike Coslo wrote:

But hasn't enough time passed for resolution of this problem even
done
that way, Phil? Here is a person in clear violation of many rules,
and
also in violation of criminal statutes too, and yet they must be
powerless to do anything.

Powerless they are not, but I don't walk in Riley's moccasins as
to
whether the power is going to be exercised or not. HQ and I had
differening views on using letter-writing versus on-scene
enforcement
over the years.

Or IS the fact that the League has it's own broadcasts a nasty
sticking
point?

Who knows ??

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane


Phil,

Whenever the subject of K1MAN comes up there is always some block head
that
insists on compairing him to W1AW.

During your tenure with the Feds did you happen to hear of a anti
stupid
pill that would be available for these folks?

Dan/W4NTI

This is just another case where the FCC fell on it's face in the rules
making department. They tried to write a rule where only the ARRL
would qualify.

Those rules lets anyone qualify. All they have to do is abide by the
rules.
K1MAN does not abide by the rules.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


He has been on 14.275 all weekend. I guess he is now in 24/7 mode. He
claims he is activated because of the hurricane emergency. Gee wonder why
no one else has to blabcast to do things like that? SATERN ain't trashing
up the spectrum with useless broadcasting of his announcements and taped
play of various internet accessable info bulletins. Amazing indeed. Now
he wants to call him on the phone to report traffic, tells us about HF nets
on 275 that can't possible be there with his blabbing all the time. What a
world class LID.

Dan/W4NTI

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On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 21:10:54 -0400, Mike Coslo wrote:

But hasn't enough time passed for resolution of this problem even
done
that way, Phil? Here is a person in clear violation of many rules,
and
also in violation of criminal statutes too, and yet they must be
powerless to do anything.

Powerless they are not, but I don't walk in Riley's moccasins as to
whether the power is going to be exercised or not. HQ and I had
differening views on using letter-writing versus on-scene
enforcement
over the years.

Or IS the fact that the League has it's own broadcasts a nasty
sticking
point?

Who knows ??

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane


Phil,

Whenever the subject of K1MAN comes up there is always some block head
that
insists on compairing him to W1AW.

During your tenure with the Feds did you happen to hear of a anti stupid
pill that would be available for these folks?

Dan/W4NTI

This is just another case where the FCC fell on it's face in the rules
making department. They tried to write a rule where only the ARRL
would qualify.

And you know this how? Did John Kerry or Al Gore tell you ?

Dan/W4NTI

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On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 21:10:54 -0400, Mike Coslo wrote:


But hasn't enough time passed for resolution of this problem even

done

that way, Phil? Here is a person in clear violation of many rules,

and

also in violation of criminal statutes too, and yet they must be
powerless to do anything.

Powerless they are not, but I don't walk in Riley's moccasins as to
whether the power is going to be exercised or not. HQ and I had
differening views on using letter-writing versus on-scene

enforcement

over the years.


Or IS the fact that the League has it's own broadcasts a nasty

sticking

point?

Who knows ??

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane



Phil,

Whenever the subject of K1MAN comes up there is always some block head

that

insists on compairing him to W1AW.

During your tenure with the Feds did you happen to hear of a anti stupid
pill that would be available for these folks?

Dan/W4NTI

This is just another case where the FCC fell on it's face in the rules
making department. They tried to write a rule where only the ARRL
would qualify.


And you know this how? Did John Kerry or Al Gore tell you ?

Dan/W4NTI


Al Gore invented the rule...didn't you know?