Mike Coslo wrote in message ...
N2EY wrote:
In article , Mike Coslo
writes:

I have to ask...

Who is Moe, who is Larry, and who is Curly/Shemp?

hehe, well we all know who Moe is!

I don't. C'mon, spell it out.

Now figuring out the other two is more of a problem.

Let's do a poll!

73 de Jim, N2EY

(who actually met Moe Howard back in the 1970s)

Most incredibly Kewl!

It was at a film festival in NJ. Several hours of classic Stooges.
Guest of honor was Moe, who did not look at all like he does in the
films - until he took off his glasses and combed his hair forward.
Then, except for the silver hair, he *was* Moe.

Let's look at the personalities:

Moe - impatient, grumpy, and given to yelling, temper tantrums and name
calling.

Also demands to be the boss of whatever is done.

Out of the three, Lenover21, William, and Steve, the person showing the
biggest tendency to do this is of course Lenover21. While Steve can
certainly throw out the insults with the best of them, he reserves it
for when he is provoked. Len apparently finds my middle of the road and
mild posts provoking.

Len finds *anything* other than complete agreement with his stated
opinions to be provoking. That's just the way he is. His act here
jumped the shark years ago.

Next is a problem. Larry is a relatively mild mannered straight man that
bears half or maybe more of Moe's angry outbursts, plus an unending
stream of name calling. I have to see Larry as more like myself or even
you, Jim!

Agreed - except that in some cases Larry will take part in the
violence chain (Moe slaps Larry, Larry slaps Curly, Curly
slaps...nobody there to slap)

You and I don't do that, which further provokes Moe....er, Len.

Now to the others. William appears to feel kind of put-upon lately,
judging from his posts. I think that the stooge that most fits his
present situation is Joe Besser. I can still hear Joe' "Stopp iit" when
I think of him.

Good point! But I would say Brian is more Larry-like in some ways.

Now for the last of the trio. Remember how Curly Howard would get all
spun up and make noises when Moe would poke him in the eye or smack him
on the head with a hammer. He was good for a "hmmmm.. wise guy!",
barking at Moe, and even getting in pokes at Moe of his own.

Yes, Curly Howard in this poll is our own Steve.

You do make a good point.

Isn't it fascinating that the Stooges were lind of looked down upon in
their time, and now have truly achieved immortality? And all that, when
they apparently never read a script that they didn't like.

Much of their stuff was adlibbed. The scripts were extremely basic.
The point was the visual gags, special effects, and the juxtaposition
of proper society and the Stooges' antics.

Nobody before or since has done a better piefight or sound effects
associated with bonks on the head, etc.

That is a
talent they shared with Lucille Ball.

I loved Lucy in the original show. The key to her humor was that she
would do absolutely *anything* onscreen if it were funny. The giant
bread loaf - the "meatavegavitamin" commercial - the pregnancy sight
gags - the classic mirror scene with Harpo Marx... Sadly, after she
split with Desi Arnaz the followup shows did not have that quality,
IMHO.

It is not generally appreciated that Lucy invented many sitcom
standards. The use of 3 cameras and the separate production company
(Desilu) are but two of her ideas.

Oddly enough, "I Love Lucy" and "The Three Stooges" were not imitated
to any great degree. Perhaps that explains part of their appeal.

Consider "The Honeymooners" which is the source of almost every
family-based sitcom for over half a century, from "The Flintstones" to
"Mad About You" to "According to Jim". Been copied a zillion times
because it works. Yet the originals are still funny.

Simple formula: Big, loud, bombastic husband and smart, pretty,
assertive wife. Neighbor/relative couple composed of slightly-older
somewhat-dim-but-likeable husband and smart-attractive-friendly wife.
BLB hubby gets into various jams, finally realizes his mistake, SPA
wife always forgives him. Wife is never fazed by anything hubby does -
stands right up to him. Jim Belushi and Courtney Thorne-Smith are just
channeling Jackie Gleason and Audrey Meadows.

Almost all sitcoms were based on the Honeymooners formula until the
mid-late 1970s. The only real change was the addition of kids (usually
precocious and smart-mouthed).

Then "Barney Miller", "WKRP" and later "Taxi" invented the workplace
ensemble comedy. Which is also highly imitated.

"Home Improvement" blended the two genres almost perfectly.

Of course for every classic, there are many many which were a waste of
time from the beginning.

Both could take garbage material,
and make us laugh with it.

Not garbage at all! Elegant. Not a wasted line or shot in the shows.

Genius.

Agreed!

73 de Jim, N2EY

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 19:20:20 -0400, Mike Coslo
wrote:



William wrote:

Mike Coslo wrote in message ...

William wrote:

Mike Coslo wrote in message ...


There is a difference between civil anonymity and non-civil anonymity.
To not get that is to not get it.

- Mike KB3EIA -


Incorrect.

If there is no disagreement, then anonymity is just peachy.

But it is their anonymity that is -attacked- when there is a
disagreement, i.e., Steve calls them cowardly scum for hiding behind a
mask.

But I am not Steve!

What a broad paintbrush we paint with.

- Mike KB3EIA -


You tolerate it, even condone it.

What a broad zone of tolerance you have for the PCTA, and how narrow it gets...

I tolerate Leo too.

And I you!


Tolerance isn't in fashion much these days. Too bad.

- Mike KB3EIA -

73, Leo

"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message ...
"William" wrote in message
m...
(Len Over 21) wrote in message
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In article , Mike Coslo
writes:

If my memory serves me right, the four Morsemen we

Larry Roll
Dave Hiel
Dick Carroll
Jim Micollis

Lenover21 would know exactly - he coined it.

I would have told Dee...but she never reads my posts (what she said
in here). :-)

Yeh, what up widat? ;^)

(you now she reads every one of dem)

The only way I catch a glimpse of lenover21 is when someone such as yourself
responds to him.

I respond to about 1/3 to 1/2 of them. Steve has the rest covered.

So you're probably seeing all of them.

Hi, hi!

I have him filtered out as I don't care to read his
rambling, disjointed, and multitudinous posts. Usually when I see that a
post is a reply to one of his, I'll skip over it. Not always though such
as this one.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

You lucked out.

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Mike Coslo wrote in message ...
William wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote in message ...

There is a difference between civil anonymity and non-civil anonymity.
To not get that is to not get it.

- Mike KB3EIA -


Incorrect.

If there is no disagreement, then anonymity is just peachy.

But it is their anonymity that is -attacked- when there is a
disagreement, i.e., Steve calls them cowardly scum for hiding behind a
mask.

But I am not Steve!

What a broad paintbrush we paint with.

- Mike KB3EIA -

You tolerate it, even condone it.

What a broad zone of tolerance you have for the PCTA, and how narrow it gets...

If you'd added your Farnsworth testing boilerplate and the bit about
repeater owners enriching themselves, I'd think you were going mad.

Dave K8MN

Nice article about MARS in Sept CQ. I may rejoin.

Mike Coslo wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Mike Coslo wrote in message ...

William wrote:

Mike Coslo wrote in message ...


There is a difference between civil anonymity and non-civil anonymity.
To not get that is to not get it.

- Mike KB3EIA -


Incorrect.

If there is no disagreement, then anonymity is just peachy.

But it is their anonymity that is -attacked- when there is a
disagreement, i.e., Steve calls them cowardly scum for hiding behind a
mask.

But I am not Steve!

What a broad paintbrush we paint with.

- Mike KB3EIA -


You tolerate it, even condone it.

What a broad zone of tolerance you have for the PCTA, and how narrow it gets...

I tolerate Leo too.

Do you think his name is not Leo?

Tolerance isn't in fashion much these days. Too bad.

I'm a tolerant person also.

"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message ...

The only way I catch a glimpse of lenover21 is when someone such as yourself
responds to him. I have him filtered out as I don't care to read his
rambling, disjointed, and multitudinous posts. Usually when I see that a
post is a reply to one of his, I'll skip over it. Not always though such
as this one.

I have a similar system. Some authors are totally blocked, others I
read completely. Saves time and makes rrap a much better experience.

73 de Jim, N2EY

(N2EY) wrote in message . com...
Mike Coslo wrote in message ...
N2EY wrote:
In article , Mike Coslo
writes:

I have to ask...

Who is Moe, who is Larry, and who is Curly/Shemp?

hehe, well we all know who Moe is!

I don't. C'mon, spell it out.

Now figuring out the other two is more of a problem.

Let's do a poll!

73 de Jim, N2EY

(who actually met Moe Howard back in the 1970s)

Most incredibly Kewl!

It was at a film festival in NJ. Several hours of classic Stooges.
Guest of honor was Moe, who did not look at all like he does in the
films - until he took off his glasses and combed his hair forward.
Then, except for the silver hair, he *was* Moe.

Let's look at the personalities:

Moe - impatient, grumpy, and given to yelling, temper tantrums and name
calling.

Also demands to be the boss of whatever is done.

Out of the three, Lenover21, William, and Steve, the person showing the
biggest tendency to do this is of course Lenover21. While Steve can
certainly throw out the insults with the best of them, he reserves it
for when he is provoked. Len apparently finds my middle of the road and
mild posts provoking.

Len finds *anything* other than complete agreement with his stated
opinions to be provoking. That's just the way he is. His act here
jumped the shark years ago.

If you subbed Steve for Len in the above assessment, I'd be in
complete agreement with you.

Next is a problem. Larry is a relatively mild mannered straight man that
bears half or maybe more of Moe's angry outbursts, plus an unending
stream of name calling. I have to see Larry as more like myself or even
you, Jim!

Agreed - except that in some cases Larry will take part in the
violence chain (Moe slaps Larry, Larry slaps Curly, Curly
slaps...nobody there to slap)

I can see Steve in that positio as well. Personality #2.

You and I don't do that, which further provokes Moe....er, Len.

Steve.

Now to the others. William appears to feel kind of put-upon lately,
judging from his posts. I think that the stooge that most fits his
present situation is Joe Besser. I can still hear Joe' "Stopp iit" when
I think of him.

Good point! But I would say Brian is more Larry-like in some ways.

Ha! Good one.

Now for the last of the trio. Remember how Curly Howard would get all
spun up and make noises when Moe would poke him in the eye or smack him
on the head with a hammer. He was good for a "hmmmm.. wise guy!",
barking at Moe, and even getting in pokes at Moe of his own.

Yes, Curly Howard in this poll is our own Steve.

You do make a good point.

Personality #3.

He is also able to do the entire cast of F-Troop and Get Smart all by
himself.

William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Mike Coslo wrote in message ...
William wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote in message ...

There is a difference between civil anonymity and non-civil anonymity.
To not get that is to not get it.

- Mike KB3EIA -


Incorrect.

If there is no disagreement, then anonymity is just peachy.

But it is their anonymity that is -attacked- when there is a
disagreement, i.e., Steve calls them cowardly scum for hiding behind a
mask.

But I am not Steve!

What a broad paintbrush we paint with.

- Mike KB3EIA -

You tolerate it, even condone it.

What a broad zone of tolerance you have for the PCTA, and how narrow it gets...

If you'd added your Farnsworth testing boilerplate and the bit about
repeater owners enriching themselves, I'd think you were going mad.

Dave K8MN

Nice article about MARS in Sept CQ. I may rejoin.

Rejoin?

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Mike Coslo wrote in message ...
William wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote in message ...

There is a difference between civil anonymity and non-civil anonymity.
To not get that is to not get it.

- Mike KB3EIA -


Incorrect.

If there is no disagreement, then anonymity is just peachy.

But it is their anonymity that is -attacked- when there is a
disagreement, i.e., Steve calls them cowardly scum for hiding behind a
mask.

But I am not Steve!

What a broad paintbrush we paint with.

- Mike KB3EIA -

You tolerate it, even condone it.

What a broad zone of tolerance you have for the PCTA, and how narrow it gets...

If you'd added your Farnsworth testing boilerplate and the bit about
repeater owners enriching themselves, I'd think you were going mad.

Dave K8MN

Nice article about MARS in Sept CQ. I may rejoin.

Rejoin?

Dave K8MN

Rejoin.

In article ,
(N2EY) writes:

"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
...

The only way I catch a glimpse of lenover21 is when someone such as
yourself
responds to him. I have him filtered out as I don't care to read his
rambling, disjointed, and multitudinous posts. Usually when I see that a
post is a reply to one of his, I'll skip over it. Not always though such
as this one.

I have a similar system. Some authors are totally blocked, others I
read completely. Saves time and makes rrap a much better experience.

That works very well for ostriches.

See only what you wish to see. Safe, secure to the psyche.

Trust in the league to tell you How Things Should Be. Tolerate
nothing else. The league is your shepherd, you shall not want.

Anything not in accordance with Standard Practice is heresy.
Shout out that heretics are "wrong" whenever you can.

There is no independence, no freedom, only Standard League
Operating Practice. [acronym SLOP]

Go outside the Official Guidelines and your amateur job is
terminated.