"William" wrote in message
om...
"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
...

Of course it must meet the requirements of Part 97 as its primary
purpose
but the problem is who is to define the standards

Who? Steve will handle it.

as to what constitutes
technical competency, operational competency, self trained operators,
and
persons knowledgeable in the radio arts. There are already movements in
progress claiming that we do not need the standards being used today to
meet
Part 97 not only in code proficiency but also in technical, operational,
and
regulatory areas.

Only disgruntled PCTA have propped up that strawman.

Are you one of them?

I am stating an observation. There have been proposals/petitions submitted
to the FCC that very clearly state proposed new requirements for written
testing that are less difficult than exists today.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Subject: K1MAN is nothing but a QRMer
From: Dave Heil
Date: 10/13/2004 10:18 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message
...

I was aware that I passed several of 'em.

At least your long-term memory is intact.

This "battle cry" you wrote
of--is it "As in front of the FCC!", "Most Certainly!" or "I never said
being CW tested makes you have any sense!"?

None of the above. Aaron Jones has it fully documented.

That simply can't be. Dan's statement was:

"As in front of the FCC? Most certainly. I never said being CW tested
makes you have any sense."

You replied:

"But that used to be one of the battle-cries for the PCTA."

Now you tell us that none of the things Dan stated are the item which
you claim was a PCTA battle cry.

It is one of the Morse Myths that the "Morse Code Test Keeps Out The
Riff-Raff."

Oh? You're introducing something new? I've never subscribed to any
such statement.

Neither have I. Neither have any of the other "regulars" that post here.

After all, you got in.

Ahhhhhhh...Yup.

I note that you call this
statement a "morse myth" and not a "battle cry". Would you like to
reconsider or reframe your statement?

Brain? Correct an error or admit being wrong...??? He'll hit the
Powerball before that happens, and we all know the chances of THAT happening...

73

Steve, K4YZ

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

It is one of the Morse Myths that the "Morse Code Test Keeps Out The Riff-Raff."

Oh? You're introducing something new? I've never subscribed to any
such statement. After all, you got in.

I note that you got in as well. Small world.

I note that you call this
statement a "morse myth" and not a "battle cry". Would you like to
reconsider or reframe your statement?

Dave K8MN

Would you like me to?

Subject: K1MAN is nothing but a QRMer
From: (William)
Date: 10/14/2004 3:21 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Dave Heil wrote in message
...
William wrote:

It is one of the Morse Myths that the "Morse Code Test Keeps Out The
Riff-Raff."

Oh? You're introducing something new? I've never subscribed to any
such statement. After all, you got in.

I note that you got in as well. Small world.

Not so small world.

I note that K8MN is well known in numerous forums and "communities" within
Amateur Radio.

I do NOT see N0IMD anywhere but here.

I note that you call this
statement a "morse myth" and not a "battle cry". Would you like to
reconsider or reframe your statement?

Would you like me to?

Are you CAPABLE of it?

Steve, K4YZ

William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

It is one of the Morse Myths that the "Morse Code Test Keeps Out The Riff-Raff."

Oh? You're introducing something new? I've never subscribed to any
such statement. After all, you got in.

I note that you got in as well.

I certainly did, but I'm not the individual who made the peculiar,
unrelated statement here. That was you alone.

Small world.

No, actually it is the same size as it has always been.

I note that you call this
statement a "morse myth" and not a "battle cry". Would you like to
reconsider or reframe your statement?

Would you like me to?

It'd only be fair since Dan made no statement about morse testing
keeping out "riff-raff", "William".

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

It is one of the Morse Myths that the "Morse Code Test Keeps Out The Riff-Raff."

Oh? You're introducing something new? I've never subscribed to any
such statement. After all, you got in.

I note that you got in as well.

I certainly did, but I'm not the individual who made the peculiar,
unrelated statement here. That was you alone.

Small world.

No, actually it is the same size as it has always been.

I note that you call this
statement a "morse myth" and not a "battle cry". Would you like to
reconsider or reframe your statement?

Would you like me to?

It'd only be fair since Dan made no statement about morse testing
keeping out "riff-raff", "William".

Dave K8MN

"David," the "riff-raff" argument is an old one engaged in by the
PCTA. Am I "alone" not allowed to have a "memory?"

Subject: K1MAN is nothing but a QRMer
From: (William)
Date: 10/15/2004 8:46 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Dave Heil wrote in message
...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message
...
William wrote:

It is one of the Morse Myths that the "Morse Code Test Keeps Out The
Riff-Raff."

Oh? You're introducing something new? I've never subscribed to any
such statement. After all, you got in.

I note that you got in as well.

I certainly did, but I'm not the individual who made the peculiar,
unrelated statement here. That was you alone.

Small world.

No, actually it is the same size as it has always been.

I note that you call this
statement a "morse myth" and not a "battle cry". Would you like to
reconsider or reframe your statement?

Would you like me to?

It'd only be fair since Dan made no statement about morse testing
keeping out "riff-raff", "William".

Dave K8MN

"David," the "riff-raff" argument is an old one engaged in by the
PCTA. Am I "alone" not allowed to have a "memory?"

Oh, you HAVE a memory, Brain.

You just allow it to be selective in what you "remember". Of course when
someone else does the same thing, you are all over them like white on rice.
But of course the "PCTA" is the only one's who have a "double
standard"..........

Steve, K4YZ

William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

It is one of the Morse Myths that the "Morse Code Test Keeps Out The Riff-Raff."

Oh? You're introducing something new? I've never subscribed to any
such statement. After all, you got in.

I note that you got in as well.

I certainly did, but I'm not the individual who made the peculiar,
unrelated statement here. That was you alone.

Small world.

No, actually it is the same size as it has always been.

I note that you call this
statement a "morse myth" and not a "battle cry". Would you like to
reconsider or reframe your statement?

Would you like me to?

It'd only be fair since Dan made no statement about morse testing
keeping out "riff-raff", "William".

"David," the "riff-raff" argument is an old one engaged in by the
PCTA. Am I "alone" not allowed to have a "memory?"

Would you like me to re-post what Dan wrote and what you replied? Your
memory must be fairly short if you can't recall that. It was only a few
short days ago. Dan's comments had nothing to do with keeping riff-raff
out of amateur radio.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

It is one of the Morse Myths that the "Morse Code Test Keeps Out The Riff-Raff."

Oh? You're introducing something new? I've never subscribed to any
such statement. After all, you got in.

I note that you got in as well.

I certainly did, but I'm not the individual who made the peculiar,
unrelated statement here. That was you alone.

Small world.

No, actually it is the same size as it has always been.

I note that you call this
statement a "morse myth" and not a "battle cry". Would you like to
reconsider or reframe your statement?

Would you like me to?

It'd only be fair since Dan made no statement about morse testing
keeping out "riff-raff", "William".

"David," the "riff-raff" argument is an old one engaged in by the
PCTA. Am I "alone" not allowed to have a "memory?"

Would you like me to re-post what Dan wrote and what you replied? Your
memory must be fairly short if you can't recall that. It was only a few
short days ago. Dan's comments had nothing to do with keeping riff-raff
out of amateur radio.

Dave K8MN

"David," you have my permission to repost whatever you like. Thanks for caring.

bb

William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

It is one of the Morse Myths that the "Morse Code Test Keeps Out The Riff-Raff."

Oh? You're introducing something new? I've never subscribed to any
such statement. After all, you got in.

I note that you got in as well.

I certainly did, but I'm not the individual who made the peculiar,
unrelated statement here. That was you alone.

Small world.

No, actually it is the same size as it has always been.

I note that you call this
statement a "morse myth" and not a "battle cry". Would you like to
reconsider or reframe your statement?

Would you like me to?

It'd only be fair since Dan made no statement about morse testing
keeping out "riff-raff", "William".

"David," the "riff-raff" argument is an old one engaged in by the
PCTA. Am I "alone" not allowed to have a "memory?"

Would you like me to re-post what Dan wrote and what you replied? Your
memory must be fairly short if you can't recall that. It was only a few
short days ago. Dan's comments had nothing to do with keeping riff-raff
out of amateur radio.

"David," you have my permission to repost whatever you like. Thanks for caring.

I'm happy to be able to help you on this one, "William".

Dan's statement was:

"As in front of the FCC? Most certainly. I never said being CW tested
makes you have any sense."

You replied:

"But that used to be one of the battle-cries for the PCTA."

I'm all for reviving that old PCTA battle-cry, "Most Certainly!"

Sheesh.

Dave K8MN