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October 2nd 04, 01:02 AM
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October 8th 04, 04:39 AM
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(William) wrote in message . com...
(Brian Kelly) wrote in message . com... PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message ... In article , Dave Heil writes: Kellie and Jimmie want "my scores from the last Field Day" as one loaded "challenge." :-) Not all amateurs participate in "Field Day" and no non-amateur-licensee can possibly operate legally. An example of a NON-challenge, already-known answer disguised as a sort-of (sort off, really) "civil discourse" question. No non-amateur-licensee can possibly operate legally on Field Day? I'd think you'd get one right once in a great while, Leonard. That response would be wrong. No, he's right, Dave. FCC specifically defines the term "operate an amateur radio station". It means to be the control oeprator, responsible for rules compliance. By definition, only a licensed ham can do that. Others "participate in amateur radio". Len cannot legally operate an amateur radio station, according to FCC. Nor can Michael Powell, for that matter. That's your interpetation of the rules and I consider it far too literal James. Literal interpretation not permissible. I.E., morse code exams at 5 wpm vice anything else (Farnsworth) at 12-15wpm. I.E., monetary compensation for making a transmission (repeater owners). Oh, well. So much for literalisms. By any normal standards the individual punching the buttons, doing the tuning and doing the communicating or in any combination is defined as the operator. Such as the "attendant" at a military communications switch? The Op at Brandywine wouldn't have time for your illigitimate complaints. Everywhere, not just in ham radio. Everywhere? Even at military switches? Oh, my! In the case of ham radio Part 97 requires that a licensed ham has to be onsite, watching and listening if the operator does not have a ham license. It gets mightly lonely at those mountaintop repeater sites. But all that is besides the point. THAT I agree with! Amateur regulations are besides the point? Be sure to send that sentiment to Riley, and sign it, "Extra." What matters most in amateur radio - or any field of endeavor, really - is what is actually done, not what's theoretically possible. That's the point of the story about my highschool friend who had lots of great ideas (and lots of criticism) but no station of his own. The computer folks have a word for it: Vaporware. Firmware? Software controlled radios? Is an Icom R-70 evil vaporware? A beat-up Budbox is wholesome hardware? I think your prejudice is showing. Who do you have more respect for, Dave: The person with a modest amateur station who is actually on the air making QSOs or The person who talks endlessly about "state of the art", "better modes and modulations", "the future of amateur radio", "progress", etc., etc., yet who isn't on the ham bands at all? Windbags. That's all quite easy to say if that person has amateur operating priveleges. Plenty of Windbags in amatuer radio. One is attributed with high status if they have passed a Morse Code exam. Woo Hoo! The person without operating priveleges may yet own the best ideas and concepts wrt HF radio. You choose to deny him or her the opportunity advance amateur radio. Too bad for all of us because of your inexcusable prejudice. Meanwhile, you bootlegged as a kid. But its all "good." You're an Extra now. Asinine from to bottom. Do yourself a big favor Burke. GROW UP. |
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October 9th 04, 12:16 AM
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October 10th 04, 11:00 PM
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(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (Brian Kelly) writes: Asinine from to bottom. Do yourself a big favor Burke. GROW UP. He did. I did. Now it's your turn. What's taking you so long? Short of flying bricks and slashed tires, that's the best that that newgroup bully can muster. Time to check-up on my wife. |
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October 10th 04, 10:58 PM
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(Brian Kelly) wrote in message . com...
(William) wrote in message . com... (Brian Kelly) wrote in message . com... PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message ... In article , Dave Heil writes: Kellie and Jimmie want "my scores from the last Field Day" as one loaded "challenge." :-) Not all amateurs participate in "Field Day" and no non-amateur-licensee can possibly operate legally. An example of a NON-challenge, already-known answer disguised as a sort-of (sort off, really) "civil discourse" question. No non-amateur-licensee can possibly operate legally on Field Day? I'd think you'd get one right once in a great while, Leonard. That response would be wrong. No, he's right, Dave. FCC specifically defines the term "operate an amateur radio station". It means to be the control oeprator, responsible for rules compliance. By definition, only a licensed ham can do that. Others "participate in amateur radio". Len cannot legally operate an amateur radio station, according to FCC. Nor can Michael Powell, for that matter. That's your interpetation of the rules and I consider it far too literal James. Literal interpretation not permissible. I.E., morse code exams at 5 wpm vice anything else (Farnsworth) at 12-15wpm. I.E., monetary compensation for making a transmission (repeater owners). Oh, well. So much for literalisms. By any normal standards the individual punching the buttons, doing the tuning and doing the communicating or in any combination is defined as the operator. Such as the "attendant" at a military communications switch? The Op at Brandywine wouldn't have time for your illigitimate complaints. Everywhere, not just in ham radio. Everywhere? Even at military switches? Oh, my! In the case of ham radio Part 97 requires that a licensed ham has to be onsite, watching and listening if the operator does not have a ham license. It gets mightly lonely at those mountaintop repeater sites. But all that is besides the point. THAT I agree with! Amateur regulations are besides the point? Be sure to send that sentiment to Riley, and sign it, "Extra." What matters most in amateur radio - or any field of endeavor, really - is what is actually done, not what's theoretically possible. That's the point of the story about my highschool friend who had lots of great ideas (and lots of criticism) but no station of his own. The computer folks have a word for it: Vaporware. Firmware? Software controlled radios? Is an Icom R-70 evil vaporware? A beat-up Budbox is wholesome hardware? I think your prejudice is showing. Who do you have more respect for, Dave: The person with a modest amateur station who is actually on the air making QSOs or The person who talks endlessly about "state of the art", "better modes and modulations", "the future of amateur radio", "progress", etc., etc., yet who isn't on the ham bands at all? Windbags. That's all quite easy to say if that person has amateur operating priveleges. Plenty of Windbags in amatuer radio. One is attributed with high status if they have passed a Morse Code exam. Woo Hoo! The person without operating priveleges may yet own the best ideas and concepts wrt HF radio. You choose to deny him or her the opportunity advance amateur radio. Too bad for all of us because of your inexcusable prejudice. Meanwhile, you bootlegged as a kid. But its all "good." You're an Extra now. Asinine from to bottom. Do yourself a big favor Burke. GROW UP. Unfortunately, everything I said was true. Grownups can accept it. Bully's don't like it. |
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