"N2EY" wrote

On the subject of "MADE IN CHINA": There was a story in the local
paper's
business section about the bottleneck at various West Coast ports,
specifically
Long Beach and Los Angeles. Imports from Pacific Rim countries,
particularly
China, are arriving at such a rate that ships wait as much as a week
to be
unloaded because the port facilities can't handle the flow. New people
are
being hired and the facilities expanded, but such expansion takes
time.

Of course what's less visible is the flow of money in the opposite
direction.

If US manufacturers don't want the business at that price, then they
have no reason to whine when an offshore firm does.

73, de K0HB
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My name is Hans and I improved this message.

N2EY wrote:
In article , "KØHB"
writes:


"Jim Hampton" wrote


C'mon, you know better than that. Perhaps the point is that equipment
sold in the United States is *supposed* to be (and likely was) checked
for radiated emissions.

Of course I know better than that!

And so does Jim.

A single example of this product developed some sort of birdie/spur on
121.5. Nothing more, nothing less.


If it happened once, it can happen again. We don't really know what made it
fail that way.


Of course the story makes good news copy on a slow day, but it's hardly
a remarkable incident,


False signal on a distress frequency? Possible fine of $10,000 if the owner
turns it on again? Somewhat remarkable to me.


and certainly not a reason to make snide innuendo
about "Designed And Built By PROFESSIONALS".


I was simply pointing out that *any* piece of electronics can have problems. I
guess that's not allowed here.

Just like one must not wear shirts with the slogan "Protect Our Civil
Liberties" where President Bush can see them.


Neither is it a reasonable
basis for a jeremiad about the FCC shirking their responsibilities.


I think it is, considering the background of how loose certification has
become.

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On the subject of "MADE IN CHINA": There was a story in the local paper's
business section about the bottleneck at various West Coast ports, specifically
Long Beach and Los Angeles. Imports from Pacific Rim countries, particularly
China, are arriving at such a rate that ships wait as much as a week to be
unloaded because the port facilities can't handle the flow. New people are
being hired and the facilities expanded, but such expansion takes time.

Of course what's less visible is the flow of money in the opposite direction.

And what is even LESS thought of is their investment in us and propping
of our economy that they are doing.

One of these days man,
And it won't be very long
They gonna own us.

Scares the bejabbers out of me.

- Mike KB3EIA -

If it happened once, it can happen again. We don't really know what made it
fail that way.


Of course the story makes good news copy on a slow day, but it's hardly
a remarkable incident,


False signal on a distress frequency? Possible fine of $10,000 if the owner
turns it on again? Somewhat remarkable to me.


Stations in distress may only be able to produce QRP level
signals. Thus you want to have *NO* QRM on those frequencies.

If I were the owner I'd unplug it and be screaming at the
manufacturer to come get it and fix or replace it.

On 18 Oct 2004 18:07:13 -0700, Jim Hampton wrote:

They [FCC] should stop being a mouthpiece for the current
administration and power companies and get back to trying to make the
airwaves a viable shared service for all.

I said that ten years ago and got an invitation to retire
early....

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73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

"Phil Kane" wrote in message . net...
On 18 Oct 2004 18:07:13 -0700, Jim Hampton wrote:

They [FCC] should stop being a mouthpiece for the current
administration and power companies and get back to trying to make the
airwaves a viable shared service for all.

I said that ten years ago and got an invitation to retire
early....

Nothing wrong with retiring early.

KØHB wrote:

Jim,

Are you suggesting that Toshiba should employ non-professional amateur
engineers to build their TV's to avoid this problem?

Or are you suggesting that even professionally designed equipment may
sometimes fail and generate a "birdie" at 121.5 or 243.0?


Turns out that 121.5 is the 9th harmonic and 243 the 18th
harmonic of a commonly used digital TV sampling frequency
of 13.5MHz, used in DVD players. Some shielding inside
must have come apart in that TV. And the errant signal
travel up to an antenna or cable connection to leak out.
This has been a concern in the digital TV manufacturing
community.