In article , Mike Coslo
writes:

N2EY wrote:

In article ,

(Len Over 21) writes:

In article , Robert Casey
writes:

One could sumise that if all the other ships in the area were
taking it slow, Titanic should have taken heed and go slow
as well. One doesn't have to have knowledge of a field to
realize that. I'm sure that the ship's owners would have preferred
and understood a late but intact Titanic at the destination.
Maybe the ship was "unsinkable" but I wouldn't want to test
that with paying passangers aboard.

Robert, I will agree with you, but what happened to the Titanic
NINETY-TWO YEARS AGO isn't really a subject of this
newsgroup and doesn't come close (maybe a couple of light-
years) to amateur radio policy. :-)

So what, Len? Much of what you talk about doesn't come close to amateur
radio policy either.

That anyone should chide another on OT posting here in rrap is mildly
amusing.

Agreed! Len does more OT posting than anybody, yet complains the loudest when
others do it. Just another example of his double standard, do as Len says not
as Len does mentality.

When that someone is part of the Lennie/Steve/Brian-William
troika in *their* ongoing whizzing contest is much more amusing.

Agreed!

The denials are almost funny.

Well, except to some who wish to turn this newsgroup into
a quasi-private Chat Room involving their own desires and
preferences..and to have them damn all others for not thinking
and feeling as they do. [yourself excluded]

That's a pretty good summation of what *you* want from this newsgroup, Len.
After all, you're the one telling other people to "shut the hell up"..

I've thought that Lenover21 wanted to be the moderator in here. He
claims otherwise.

It's how he acts that makes the claims ring hollow. Perhaps it's time to repost
the "feldwebel" classic...

For the bleeding-heart imaginary sailors aboard, I won't cry
great crocodile tears of a thousand-plus humans who perished
on the Titanic in 1912. Nope.

"Bleeding-heart imaginary sailors"? Who would that be?

Yeah, what's with that?

Len's trying to cover up his gaffe of laughing at them.

I'll just reflect that the subject
made a LOT of money for Linda Hamilton's ex-husband

You mean James Cameron? If so, why not just use his name?

You seem to have a serious problem calling people by their names. Perhaps
you don't have the guts to do it.

Have you ever noticed, Mike, that Len practically *never* addresses someone who
disagrees with him by the name they use on their posts? He almost always has to
make up an insulting nickname for them.

and
employed many Mexican laborers on the set of "Titanic"...
many many years later with a little gilt statuette awarded for
Best Motion Picture to the producer-director. No crying great
tears on-stage on that Oscar Night.

What possible significance does that have?

And is that on topic for rrap? ;^)

;-) ;-)

Linda is quite quirky in a cute sort of way... or is that quite cute in
a quirky sort of way?

Very attractive, really. Not at the Jan Smithers level, of course.

Boeing doesn't test fly
new aircraft with commercial paying passengers.

OT?

Not many aircraft companies were busy working out Test
Proceedures for test-flying new aircraft in 1912... :-)

Very OT

Boeing innovated the pre-flight checklist around 1940 or
thereabouts after they lost a prototype Flying Fortress (and
their chief test pilot) on takeoff.

Yawningly OT

Of course there was the PROFESSIONAL pilot who tried to roll a B-52 at low
altitude.

Did you see the case study of that one, Jim? Spooky! Too bad so many of
the folk flying with him knew they were probably going to die some day
with him at the yoke.

Did you see the film clip? It's on the 'net at a few sites. Not the best
quality, but scary enough.

Not to worry. U.S. amateur radio regulations are Up To Date.

Yes, they are.

Seems like it to me!

They still require all amateurs to test for beloved morse code
cognition capability in order to have priveleges of operating
below 30 MHz...in the ham bands.

Why does that bother you so much?

Notice how Len avoids the relevant questions...

It seems that some amateurs
bent on constantly re-living the past (in almost anything) think
that morse code skill is still the epitome of "radio operation" in
the year 2004.

Perhaps some do.

Many more think that a simple test of Morse code skill at a very basic
level is a worthwhile requirement for an amateur license.

Why does that bother you so much, Len?

Very "progressive." State of the Art.

Len, do you live in a "State Of The Art" house? Drive a "State Of The Art"
car? Wear "State Of The Art" clothes?

Is your computer "State Of The Art", complete with broadband connection?

If we owns PC's, we isn't state of the art.

Roger that!

Heck, the only HF radio equipment you've admitted to owning is over 20
years
old. Definitely not "State Of The Art", yet you lecture others about it.

Random though mode on:

I have a 1987 Transciever. IC-745. Suits me just fine. All digital
(excluding the necessary analog bits)

Mostly analog, really!

Wow, even digital radios are getting old hat.

Yep.

"Why", the Grinch said as a smile lit his face, "Maybe for everything,
everymode all has it's place."

Indeed.


I have a chunk of galena setting on the shelf in front of me - maybe
I'll make a cat's whisker detector and radio from it

Oatmeal boxes made of cardboard are still used. They have a plastic rim at the
top but they still make good coil forms

Random thought mode off.......

73 de Jim, N2EY

PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article , Mike Coslo
writes:

N2EY wrote:

In article ,

(Len Over 21) writes:

In article , Robert Casey
writes:

One could sumise that if all the other ships in the area were
taking it slow, Titanic should have taken heed and go slow
as well. One doesn't have to have knowledge of a field to
realize that. I'm sure that the ship's owners would have preferred
and understood a late but intact Titanic at the destination.
Maybe the ship was "unsinkable" but I wouldn't want to test
that with paying passangers aboard.

Robert, I will agree with you, but what happened to the Titanic
NINETY-TWO YEARS AGO isn't really a subject of this
newsgroup and doesn't come close (maybe a couple of light-
years) to amateur radio policy. :-)

So what, Len? Much of what you talk about doesn't come close to amateur
radio policy either.

That anyone should chide another on OT posting here in rrap is mildly
amusing.

Agreed! Len does more OT posting than anybody,

and is told more often than anybody that he is OT.

William wrote:
PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message ...

In article , Mike Coslo
writes:


N2EY wrote:


In article ,



(Len Over 21) writes:



In article , Robert Casey
writes:



One could sumise that if all the other ships in the area were
taking it slow, Titanic should have taken heed and go slow
as well. One doesn't have to have knowledge of a field to
realize that. I'm sure that the ship's owners would have preferred
and understood a late but intact Titanic at the destination.
Maybe the ship was "unsinkable" but I wouldn't want to test
that with paying passangers aboard.



Robert, I will agree with you, but what happened to the Titanic
NINETY-TWO YEARS AGO isn't really a subject of this
newsgroup and doesn't come close (maybe a couple of light-
years) to amateur radio policy. :-)



So what, Len? Much of what you talk about doesn't come close to amateur
radio policy either.

That anyone should chide another on OT posting here in rrap is mildly
amusing.

Agreed! Len does more OT posting than anybody,


and is told more often than anybody that he is OT.

Not by me! AFAIC Lenover21 can post on anything he wishes to.

Really, there isn't a need for any of us to be sensitive about this
stuff. It is after all, USENET.

- Mike KB3EIA -

In article , Mike Coslo writes:

Really, there isn't a need for any of us to be sensitive about this
stuff. It is after all, USENET.

TSK. NO. VERY SERIOUS! Might be better than World Serious!

This newsgroup is all about certain PCTAs needing a private chat
room to damn the NCTAs to eternal hell for not loving morse.

Len Over 21 wrote:
In article , Mike Coslo writes:


Really, there isn't a need for any of us to be sensitive about this
stuff. It is after all, USENET.


TSK. NO. VERY SERIOUS! Might be better than World Serious!

This newsgroup is all about certain PCTAs needing a private chat
room to damn the NCTAs to eternal hell for not loving morse.


Remember, all of us are going to hell in somones religion! 8^)

- Mike KB3EIA -

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Mike Coslo writes:

Really, there isn't a need for any of us to be sensitive about this
stuff. It is after all, USENET.

TSK. NO. VERY SERIOUS! Might be better than World Serious!

This newsgroup is all about certain PCTAs needing a private chat
room to damn the NCTAs to eternal hell for not loving morse.

Remind us again of your connection to the world of amateur radio.



Dave

Mike Coslo wrote in message ...
William wrote:
PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message ...

In article , Mike Coslo
writes:


N2EY wrote:


In article ,



(Len Over 21) writes:



In article , Robert Casey
writes:



One could sumise that if all the other ships in the area were
taking it slow, Titanic should have taken heed and go slow
as well. One doesn't have to have knowledge of a field to
realize that. I'm sure that the ship's owners would have preferred
and understood a late but intact Titanic at the destination.
Maybe the ship was "unsinkable" but I wouldn't want to test
that with paying passangers aboard.



Robert, I will agree with you, but what happened to the Titanic
NINETY-TWO YEARS AGO isn't really a subject of this
newsgroup and doesn't come close (maybe a couple of light-
years) to amateur radio policy. :-)



So what, Len? Much of what you talk about doesn't come close to amateur
radio policy either.

That anyone should chide another on OT posting here in rrap is mildly
amusing.

Agreed! Len does more OT posting than anybody,


and is told more often than anybody that he is OT.

Not by me! AFAIC Lenover21 can post on anything he wishes to.

Glad to hear it. The same cannot be said for Kelly, Jim, Dave, or
dare I say Steve?

Really, there isn't a need for any of us to be sensitive about this
stuff. It is after all, USENET.

- Mike KB3EIA -

It's not being sensitive about being told. It's just that those doing
the telling are some of the worst offenders, i.e., PCTA double
standard.

Subject: Designed And Built By PROFESSIONALS....
From: (William)
Date: 10/26/2004 5:04 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Mike Coslo wrote in message
...

Not by me! AFAIC Lenover21 can post on anything he wishes to.

Glad to hear it. The same cannot be said for Kelly, Jim, Dave, or
dare I say Steve?

Yes, you DARE say it, Sir Putzy Jr!.

I have never chastised Sir Scumbag about being "off topic" except when HE
is chastizing others for doing exactly the same thing HE does.

Really, there isn't a need for any of us to be sensitive about this
stuff. It is after all, USENET.

It's not being sensitive about being told. It's just that those doing
the telling are some of the worst offenders, i.e., PCTA double
standard.

Oh...You mean the SAME "double standard" that YOU just exercised here?

Steve, K4YZ

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Designed And Built By PROFESSIONALS....
From: (William)
Date: 10/26/2004 5:04 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Mike Coslo wrote in message
...

Not by me! AFAIC Lenover21 can post on anything he wishes to.

Glad to hear it. The same cannot be said for Kelly, Jim, Dave, or
dare I say Steve?

Yes, you DARE say it, Sir Putzy Jr!.

I have never chastised Sir Scumbag about being "off topic" except when HE
is chastizing others for doing exactly the same thing HE does.

"I HAVE NEVER..."

Hi, hi!

Then you always say "EXCEPT WHEN I DID."

More Hi, hi's!

By Golly, I guess you really DiDit!

Really, there isn't a need for any of us to be sensitive about this
stuff. It is after all, USENET.

It's not being sensitive about being told. It's just that those doing
the telling are some of the worst offenders, i.e., PCTA double
standard.

Oh...You mean the SAME "double standard" that YOU just exercised here?

Steve, K4YZ

No double standard. I did not chastise. I pointed out a fact. A
fact that you don't like. Too bad.

Subject: Designed And Built By PROFESSIONALS....
From: (William)
Date: 10/26/2004 3:37 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Designed And Built By PROFESSIONALS....
From: (William)
Date: 10/26/2004 5:04 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Mike Coslo wrote in message
...

Not by me! AFAIC Lenover21 can post on anything he wishes to.

Glad to hear it. The same cannot be said for Kelly, Jim, Dave, or
dare I say Steve?

Yes, you DARE say it, Sir Putzy Jr!.

I have never chastised Sir Scumbag about being "off topic" except when
HE
is chastizing others for doing exactly the same thing HE does.

"I HAVE NEVER..."

Hi, hi!

Then you always say "EXCEPT WHEN I DID."

More Hi, hi's!

An educated person (meaning other than yourslef) could read the sentence I
wrote and understand it, Brain.

My bust for assuming you MIGHT.

By Golly, I guess you really DiDit!

Really, there isn't a need for any of us to be sensitive about this
stuff. It is after all, USENET.

It's not being sensitive about being told. It's just that those doing
the telling are some of the worst offenders, i.e., PCTA double
standard.

Oh...You mean the SAME "double standard" that YOU just exercised here?

Steve, K4YZ

No double standard. I did not chastise. I pointed out a fact. A
fact that you don't like. Too bad.

Yes, you HAVE been chastising others, myself included.

I have made other apologies in this forum before, Brain. (Care to ask
Cecil, among others?)

So far you've not been able to delineate ANY facts, Brain.

Nor have you kept pace with your own rhetoric.

Steve, K4YZ