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Steve Robeson K4CAP October 21st 04 05:02 AM

Cheap Shot Brokeslob...Why Am I Not Surprised?
 
Subject: WHICH Extras, Brain?
From: "KØHB"
Date: 10/20/2004 6:42 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id: et

"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote

fm:

to:


Dear Rich,

Some time ago a story appeared in CQ that told a story about a
young,
recently licensed operator who made the mistake of using "CB" lingo on
the
repeater.

The story went on to tell about a "crusty" old op that
subsequently read
him the riot act on the air, causing the young op to rethink his
Amateur
"career".

Can you help me locate this article?

Thanks!

Steve Robeson, LPN
Amateur Call K4YZ
Winchester, TN


fm: K0HB
to: W2VU

Hi Rich,

Just so you know what's going on......

Back in 1997 on one of the USENET newsgroups, rec.radio.amateur.policy,
I wrote the story quoted below. Today I repeated it there in response
to a related post from Jim, AA2QA, trying to promote more harmony among
the various license classes.

Another fellow there, K4YZ, has suggested I plagiarized the story from
CQ magazine, and I've called his bluff. You'll get a message from him
asking to locate the story in CQ.


I asked him about the story without "who what when where why".

I asked him a benign question about a "CQ" story.

You made it a personal vendetta. Covering your butt.

You had to give your "friend" a "head's up". Turned it into a flamefest
outside of the firepit. Why do you think it was necessary to give Rich a
"head's up"..?!?!
Does every inquiry about "CQ" magazine require a clarification from you?

Guess this just kinda confirmed my suspicions about what kind of a creep
you really are, Hans.

Steve, K4YZ






KØHB October 21st 04 05:25 AM

"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote


I asked him about the story without "who what when where why".

I asked him a benign question about a "CQ" story.

You made it a personal vendetta. Covering your butt.


Aw, gee, Steve, you make a nice whining tear-jerking lament out of it,
but you conveniently forgot the first part of the episode where you
"benignly" accused me of plagiarism. Now you cry out in dismayed
anguish about "cheap shots" when your accusation spirals down in flames.
Andersoneque misdirection, puffery, and posturing at its finest!

Sunuvagun!!!

36, de Hans, K0HB





KØHB October 21st 04 06:10 AM


"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote


It scared the bee-jeebers out of you that YOUR bluff
was called and you had to do what you
could to tilt the playing field in your favor.


My offer stands, Steve. Cite the CQ issue which contained this story,
not written by me, and I'll send a public apology "Letter to the Editor"
to CQ. If my story came from CQ Magazine as you suggest, then nothing
which happens here on rrap or in emails to W2VU will magically erase it.
Show us the article.

Your move.

Put up or shut up.

36, de Hans, K0HB








Steve Robeson K4CAP October 21st 04 07:39 AM


Subject: Cheap Shot Brokeslob...Why Am I Not Surprised?
From: "KØHB"
Date: 10/21/2004 12:10 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id: . net


"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote


It scared the bee-jeebers out of you that YOUR bluff
was called and you had to do what you
could to tilt the playing field in your favor.


My offer stands, Steve. Cite the CQ issue which contained this story,
not written by me, and I'll send a public apology "Letter to the Editor"
to CQ. If my story came from CQ Magazine as you suggest, then nothing
which happens here on rrap or in emails to W2VU will magically erase it.
Show us the article.


You still haven't explained your actions, Hans.

Your move.


You've still not explained your actions, Hans.

Why the "heads up" when absolutely no reference to you or this forum was
made in MY letter...?!?!

Felt a need to "defend" yourself when no "threat" was made TO you...?!?!

36, de Hans, K0HB


Coward, extrodinaire.

Steve, K4YZ






Steve Robeson, K4CAP October 21st 04 03:26 PM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Cheap Shot Brokeslob...Why Am I Not Surprised?
From: "KØHB"

Date: 10/21/2004 12:10 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id: . net


"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote


It scared the bee-jeebers out of you that YOUR bluff
was called and you had to do what you
could to tilt the playing field in your favor.


My offer stands, Steve. Cite the CQ issue which contained this story,
not written by me, and I'll send a public apology "Letter to the Editor"
to CQ. If my story came from CQ Magazine as you suggest, then nothing
which happens here on rrap or in emails to W2VU will magically erase it.
Show us the article.


You still haven't explained your actions, Hans.

Your move.


You've still not explained your actions, Hans.

Why the "heads up" when absolutely no reference to you or this forum was
made in MY letter...?!?!

Felt a need to "defend" yourself when no "threat" was made TO you...?!?!

36, de Hans, K0HB


Coward, extrodinaire.


What...No snappy response? You responded to other posts
vis-a-vis this situation within minutes...don't tell me you didn't
"see" this one too!

I have the answer...just being a big shot, as ususal. Always

first, better, bigger or longer....

Just like Lennie.

Steve, K4YZ

KØHB October 21st 04 03:44 PM

"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote


You still haven't explained your actions, Hans.


What "actions"?

You're the one who opened the incident with an accusation of
plagiarization, yet when I defend myself against that slimy charge you
wring your hands in self-righteous dismay.

"Why Am I Not Surprised?"

My offer stands, Steve. Cite the CQ issue which contained this story,
not written by me, and I'll send a public apology "Letter to the Editor"
to CQ.

Your move.

Put up or shut up. It's really THAT simple.

36, de Hans, K0HB






Steve Robeson K4CAP October 21st 04 04:30 PM

Subject: Cheap Shot Robeslob...Why Is No One Surprised?
From: "KØHB"
Date: 10/21/2004 9:44 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id: . net

"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote


You still haven't explained your actions, Hans.


What "actions"?

You're the one who opened the incident with an accusation of
plagiarization, yet when I defend myself against that slimy charge you
wring your hands in self-righteous dismay.


Defending yourself...to Rich?

When absolutely NO MENTION of you, RRAP, or the intended use of the request
was, Hans?

What was the purpose of your "head's up" letter to Rich, W2VU about...?!?!

It was YOUR slimy attempt to divert Rich's attention from assisting me,
Hans.

It was YOUR "self righteous" hand wringing that we are talking about.

My offer stands, Steve. Cite the CQ issue which contained this story,
not written by me, and I'll send a public apology "Letter to the Editor"
to CQ.


Not necessary, Hans.

I have already posted the letter that Rich sent to both of us and
apologized to you for having gotten the attribute vis-a-vis the medium that I
thought it was in.

Put up or shut up. It's really THAT simple.


I've already been "on the move", Hans.

Those "actions", including my apology for having gotten it wrong about CQ
vis-a-vis another source.

Try being a man about it, Hans.

It really is THAT simple.

36, de Hans, K0HB


Un-sincere as always. Thanks for proving me right...again...

Steve, K4YZ







KØHB October 21st 04 05:30 PM




"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote


What was the purpose of your "head's up" letter to Rich, W2VU
about...?!?!


To assist him in searching for the article. I presumed if he had a
vertaim copy it would be much easier to locate the issue it was
published in. Unfortunately (for you) his search was not successful.


Those "actions", including my apology for having gotten it wrong
about CQ
vis-a-vis another source.


No apology has yet appeared on my newsreader nor in my email inbox.

36, de Hans, K0HB





Steve Robeson K4CAP October 21st 04 07:52 PM

Subject: Cheap Shot Robeslob...Why Is No One Surprised?
From: "KØHB"
Date: 10/21/2004 11:30 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id: et


"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote


What was the purpose of your "head's up" letter to Rich, W2VU
about...?!?!


To assist him in searching for the article. I presumed if he had a
vertaim copy it would be much easier to locate the issue it was
published in. Unfortunately (for you) his search was not successful.


What part of MY letter was so insufficient as to preclude him from finding
what I was looking for?

Allow me to answer that for you...

NOTHING.

Your letter added NOTHING to what I had already included in my letter.

It's ONLY intent was to spread the flamefest outside the NG in order to
sate your wounded ego.

Those "actions", including my apology for having gotten it wrong
about CQ
vis-a-vis another source.


No apology has yet appeared on my newsreader nor in my email inbox.


Perhaps because you've got your head so far up your own backside as to be
inable to see beyond your own selfish ego?

36, de Hans, K0HB


Still with the inadequacies.

As usual.

Steve, K4YZ






KØHB October 21st 04 08:33 PM



"KØHB" wrote


No apology has yet appeared on my newsreader nor in my email inbox.


The apology has now appeared on my newsreader.

Apology accepted. Thank you.

de Hans, K0HB






Steve Robeson K4CAP October 21st 04 09:27 PM

Subject: Cheap Shot Robeslob...Why Is No One Surprised?
From: "KØHB"
Date: 10/21/2004 2:33 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id: . net


"KØHB" wrote


No apology has yet appeared on my newsreader nor in my email inbox.


The apology has now appeared on my newsreader.


Apology accepted. Thank you.


de Hans, K0HB


And again, you are welcome.

73 de Steve, K4YZ






Mike Coslo October 21st 04 11:58 PM



KØHB wrote:

"KØHB" wrote


No apology has yet appeared on my newsreader nor in my email inbox.



The apology has now appeared on my newsreader.

Apology accepted. Thank you.

de Hans, K0HB



Group Hug?


- Mike KB3EIA -


William October 22nd 04 12:12 AM

"KØHB" wrote in message ink.net...
"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote


What was the purpose of your "head's up" letter to Rich, W2VU
about...?!?!


To assist him in searching for the article. I presumed if he had a
vertaim copy it would be much easier to locate the issue it was
published in. Unfortunately (for you) his search was not successful.


Those "actions", including my apology for having gotten it wrong
about CQ
vis-a-vis another source.


No apology has yet appeared on my newsreader nor in my email inbox.

36, de Hans, K0HB


Hans, I see no apology either.

Meanwhile, Steve is manically exhausting all other avenues before he
has to phase the music. But in the end, I'm sure you'll get your
apology because he's told us before that he admits when he's wrong,
even though I've never seen an apology from him. He's in too deep on
this one to snub you on your justly deserved apology.

Best of Luck.

Hi, hi!

William October 22nd 04 12:20 AM

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Cheap Shot Brokeslob...Why Am I Not Surprised?
From: "KØHB"

Date: 10/21/2004 12:10 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id: . net


"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote


It scared the bee-jeebers out of you that YOUR bluff
was called and you had to do what you
could to tilt the playing field in your favor.


My offer stands, Steve. Cite the CQ issue which contained this story,
not written by me, and I'll send a public apology "Letter to the Editor"
to CQ. If my story came from CQ Magazine as you suggest, then nothing
which happens here on rrap or in emails to W2VU will magically erase it.
Show us the article.


You still haven't explained your actions, Hans.

Your move.


You've still not explained your actions, Hans.

Why the "heads up" when absolutely no reference to you or this forum was
made in MY letter...?!?!

Felt a need to "defend" yourself when no "threat" was made TO you...?!?!

36, de Hans, K0HB


Coward, extrodinaire.


What...No snappy response? You responded to other posts
vis-a-vis this situation within minutes...don't tell me you didn't
"see" this one too!

I have the answer...just being a big shot, as ususal. Always

first, better, bigger or longer....

Just like Lennie.

Steve, K4YZ


I think this is the part where Steve retells his own story of what
happens to people who shoot off "thier" mouths.

Steve Robeson K4CAP October 22nd 04 01:29 PM

Subject: Cheap Shot Robeslob...Why Is No One Surprised?
From: (William)
Date: 10/21/2004 6:12 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

"KØHB" wrote in message
link.net...
"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote


What was the purpose of your "head's up" letter to Rich, W2VU
about...?!?!


To assist him in searching for the article. I presumed if he had a
vertaim copy it would be much easier to locate the issue it was
published in. Unfortunately (for you) his search was not successful.


Those "actions", including my apology for having gotten it wrong
about CQ
vis-a-vis another source.


No apology has yet appeared on my newsreader nor in my email inbox.

36, de Hans, K0HB


Hans, I see no apology either.

Meanwhile, Steve is manically exhausting all other avenues before he
has to phase the music.


"Face" the music, Brain.

But in the end, I'm sure you'll get your
apology because he's told us before that he admits when he's wrong,
even though I've never seen an apology from him.


You only see what you want to see, Brain.

Obviously Hans saw the apology after reading a little bit. Strange,
though, since he "responded" to posts made AFTER those comments, yet stated he
didn't see those. Oh well...He DID see them and DID respond accordingly.

He's in too deep on
this one to snub you on your justly deserved apology.


You need to ask around, Brain. I have made errors before and was not the
least bit hesitant to come up off of an apology when it was right to do so.

On the otherhand, we're STILL waiting on apologies from you on your
falsely claimed Somalia operation and your failed claim of "Unlicensed devices
play a major role in emergency comms" assertions, even though both of those
have been hanging out there for MONTHS.

How long does it take YOU to make an apology for mistated, untruthful or
errant posts, Brain?

Steve, K4YZ






William October 23rd 04 01:30 AM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Cheap Shot Robeslob...Why Is No One Surprised?
From:
(William)
Date: 10/21/2004 6:12 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

"KØHB" wrote in message
link.net...
"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote


What was the purpose of your "head's up" letter to Rich, W2VU
about...?!?!


To assist him in searching for the article. I presumed if he had a
vertaim copy it would be much easier to locate the issue it was
published in. Unfortunately (for you) his search was not successful.


Those "actions", including my apology for having gotten it wrong
about CQ
vis-a-vis another source.


No apology has yet appeared on my newsreader nor in my email inbox.

36, de Hans, K0HB


Hans, I see no apology either.

Meanwhile, Steve is manically exhausting all other avenues before he
has to phase the music.


"Face" the music, Brain.


Left Face!

Right Face!

About Face!

Two Face!

As you were! (two faced)

Hi, hi!

But in the end, I'm sure you'll get your
apology because he's told us before that he admits when he's wrong,
even though I've never seen an apology from him.


You only see what you want to see, Brain.


I've since seen your apology. Pretty lame stalling tactic while you
have an ARRL Staffer decide if Hans is a liar.

No intergrity is your accusations, and no integrity in your apologies.

Your word isn't woth much.

Hi, hi!

Obviously Hans saw the apology after reading a little bit. Strange,
though, since he "responded" to posts made AFTER those comments, yet stated he
didn't see those. Oh well...He DID see them and DID respond accordingly.


Strange is Steve. Steve is Strange.

He's in too deep on
this one to snub you on your justly deserved apology.


You need to ask around, Brain. I have made errors before and was not the
least bit hesitant to come up off of an apology when it was right to do so.


I'm still waiting.

On the otherhand, we're STILL waiting on apologies from you on your
falsely claimed Somalia operation and your failed claim of "Unlicensed devices
play a major role in emergency comms" assertions, even though both of those
have been hanging out there for MONTHS.


You need an apology for my Somalia operation???

You go to hell.

How long does it take YOU to make an apology for mistated, untruthful or
errant posts, Brain?

Steve, K4YZ


I've apologized to Dee. I thought she was wrong, I -said- she was
wrong, she was not wrong, and I stood corrected. That's how it works.

Yet you want an apology for my having an OPINION???

You're NUTS!

Len Over 21 October 23rd 04 08:50 PM

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Cheap Shot Robeslob...Why Is No One Surprised?
From:
(William)
Date: 10/21/2004 6:12 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

"KØHB" wrote in message
link.net...
"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote


What was the purpose of your "head's up" letter to Rich, W2VU
about...?!?!


To assist him in searching for the article. I presumed if he had a
vertaim copy it would be much easier to locate the issue it was
published in. Unfortunately (for you) his search was not successful.


Those "actions", including my apology for having gotten it wrong
about CQ
vis-a-vis another source.


No apology has yet appeared on my newsreader nor in my email inbox.

36, de Hans, K0HB

Hans, I see no apology either.

Meanwhile, Steve is manically exhausting all other avenues before he
has to phase the music.


"Face" the music, Brain.


Left Face!

Right Face!

About Face!

Two Face!

As you were! (two faced)

Hi, hi!


Nursie likes the "cross-order drill" stuff... :-)


But in the end, I'm sure you'll get your
apology because he's told us before that he admits when he's wrong,
even though I've never seen an apology from him.


You only see what you want to see, Brain.


I've since seen your apology. Pretty lame stalling tactic while you
have an ARRL Staffer decide if Hans is a liar.

No intergrity is your accusations, and no integrity in your apologies.

Your word isn't woth much.

Hi, hi!


Nursie doesn't "need" to apologize...she is always right and has
the right to accuse anyone of anything...and does. [nursie is a
code-tested extra and therefore immune from criticism...in her
fantasy world]


Obviously Hans saw the apology after reading a little bit. Strange,
though, since he "responded" to posts made AFTER those comments, yet stated

he
didn't see those. Oh well...He DID see them and DID respond accordingly.


Strange is Steve. Steve is Strange.


Dr. Strangelove, "qualified medical doctor" is one of his personalities.


He's in too deep on
this one to snub you on your justly deserved apology.


You need to ask around, Brain. I have made errors before and was not

the
least bit hesitant to come up off of an apology when it was right to do so.


I'm still waiting.


We can wait until hell freezes over, but there won't be any sincere
apologies seen...and there WILL be other threads started with the
obvious personal insults directed to others such as his "Cheap Shot
Brokeslob."


On the otherhand, we're STILL waiting on apologies from you on your
falsely claimed Somalia operation and your failed claim of "Unlicensed

devices
play a major role in emergency comms" assertions, even though both of those
have been hanging out there for MONTHS.


You need an apology for my Somalia operation???

You go to hell.


He's been there...and got medically discharged...


How long does it take YOU to make an apology for mistated, untruthful

or
errant posts, Brain?

Steve, K4YZ


I've apologized to Dee. I thought she was wrong, I -said- she was
wrong, she was not wrong, and I stood corrected. That's how it works.

Yet you want an apology for my having an OPINION???

You're NUTS!


Cashews...but without the cash.



Len Over 21 October 23rd 04 08:50 PM

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: WHICH Extras, Brain?
From: "KØHB"

Date: 10/20/2004 6:42 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id: et

"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote

fm:

to:


Dear Rich,

Some time ago a story appeared in CQ that told a story about a
young,
recently licensed operator who made the mistake of using "CB" lingo on
the
repeater.

The story went on to tell about a "crusty" old op that
subsequently read
him the riot act on the air, causing the young op to rethink his
Amateur
"career".

Can you help me locate this article?

Thanks!

Steve Robeson, LPN
Amateur Call K4YZ
Winchester, TN


fm: K0HB
to: W2VU

Hi Rich,

Just so you know what's going on......

Back in 1997 on one of the USENET newsgroups, rec.radio.amateur.policy,
I wrote the story quoted below. Today I repeated it there in response
to a related post from Jim, AA2QA, trying to promote more harmony among
the various license classes.

Another fellow there, K4YZ, has suggested I plagiarized the story from
CQ magazine, and I've called his bluff. You'll get a message from him
asking to locate the story in CQ.


I asked him about the story without "who what when where why".


...and I'm still asking you the When and Where of those "seven
hostile actions" you claimed to experience. :-)

You haven't answered that yet. [does that sound like you are
a "coward and a liar?" :-) ]

I asked him a benign question about a "CQ" story.


Tsk. You are as "benign" as a spreading cancer cell...

You made it a personal vendetta. Covering your butt.


Tsk, tsk, tsk...gunnery nurse made it all a prime-time project
to "apologize" by calling another names, charging plagiarism,
and generally stating unproven falsehoods about the story
content and its writer.

You had to give your "friend" a "head's up". Turned it into a flamefest
outside of the firepit. Why do you think it was necessary to give Rich a
"head's up"..?!?!


Tsk, tsk, tsk. Nursie lit the matches, burned her little fingers, then
yells and yells "It's not MY fault!" :-)

Does every inquiry about "CQ" magazine require a clarification from you?


So...nursie still hasn't found the claimed "original story that is
supposed to be plagiarized by Hans?

Too bad. It might have...for the first time in here...showed some
truth about all those unfounded charges and epithets you level at
others. It didn't. So far, all it has shown is your unstable emotional
state and inability to get along with others in a newsgroup.

Guess this just kinda confirmed my suspicions about what kind of a creep
you really are, Hans.


Tsk, tsk, tsk. Nursie's idea of an "apology." :-)

Must be her idea of what constitutes "civility." If she makes a mistake
the tactic is to call others lots of nasty names to cover up her own
errors...and then keeps saying she "apologizes." Tsk.

An example of modern American amateur radio highest-class
licensee in action. [very hostile action] Role model...NOT.



William October 24th 04 02:27 PM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: WHICH Extras, Brain?
From: "KØHB"

Date: 10/20/2004 6:42 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id: et

"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote

fm:

to:


Dear Rich,

Some time ago a story appeared in CQ that told a story about a
young,
recently licensed operator who made the mistake of using "CB" lingo on
the
repeater.

The story went on to tell about a "crusty" old op that
subsequently read
him the riot act on the air, causing the young op to rethink his
Amateur
"career".

Can you help me locate this article?

Thanks!

Steve Robeson, LPN
Amateur Call K4YZ
Winchester, TN

fm: K0HB
to: W2VU

Hi Rich,

Just so you know what's going on......

Back in 1997 on one of the USENET newsgroups, rec.radio.amateur.policy,
I wrote the story quoted below. Today I repeated it there in response
to a related post from Jim, AA2QA, trying to promote more harmony among
the various license classes.

Another fellow there, K4YZ, has suggested I plagiarized the story from
CQ magazine, and I've called his bluff. You'll get a message from him
asking to locate the story in CQ.


I asked him about the story without "who what when where why".


...and I'm still asking you the When and Where of those "seven
hostile actions" you claimed to experience. :-)

You haven't answered that yet. [does that sound like you are
a "coward and a liar?" :-) ]


Why, yes, it does, By his very own, very odd definitions.

But remember that there are two sets of rules in play on RRAP.

I asked him a benign question about a "CQ" story.


Tsk. You are as "benign" as a spreading cancer cell...


Malignant?

Oops! Caught me practicing medicine w/o licensure again. Hi!

You made it a personal vendetta. Covering your butt.


Tsk, tsk, tsk...gunnery nurse made it all a prime-time project
to "apologize" by calling another names, charging plagiarism,
and generally stating unproven falsehoods about the story
content and its writer.


Just like all of his other charges: without basis. A Robeson
trademark.

You had to give your "friend" a "head's up". Turned it into a flamefest
outside of the firepit. Why do you think it was necessary to give Rich a
"head's up"..?!?!


Tsk, tsk, tsk. Nursie lit the matches, burned her little fingers, then
yells and yells "It's not MY fault!" :-)


Nothing is Steve's fault.

Does every inquiry about "CQ" magazine require a clarification from you?


So...nursie still hasn't found the claimed "original story that is
supposed to be plagiarized by Hans?


He's still waiting for an ARRL Staffer to do his legwork for him.
You'd think such a devout ARRL beleiver would have his own copies of
QST, or the searchable CD-ROMs. Maybe his mentor can help him out and
quit wasting my dues money in the process.

Good thing I paid my dues in full so that they could be used to fund
unnecessary searches for crank hams. Hi, hi!

Wonder how those searches through World Radio, the defunct "Ham Radio"
magazine, and Nuts&Volts is coming along?

Leave no stone unturned in the search to make Hans a liar and a creep.

Too bad. It might have...for the first time in here...showed some
truth about all those unfounded charges and epithets you level at
others. It didn't.


I believe it did. It showed us that there is a long, long list of
unfounded charges and epithets that Steve has leveled at others, and
the list grows longer each day.

So far, all it has shown is your unstable emotional
state and inability to get along with others in a newsgroup.


That was observable long, long ago. He merely reinforces that image
daily.

Guess this just kinda confirmed my suspicions about what kind of a creep
you really are, Hans.


Tsk, tsk, tsk. Nursie's idea of an "apology." :-)


Indeed. Heartfelt sorrow.

Must be her idea of what constitutes "civility." If she makes a mistake
the tactic is to call others lots of nasty names to cover up her own
errors...and then keeps saying she "apologizes." Tsk.


Because there are more than one inside Steve's shell. One rants and
raves, the other apologizes on the rarest of ocassions. It only
appears inconsistent to us outside of that shell.

An example of modern American amateur radio highest-class
licensee in action. [very hostile action] Role model...NOT.



bb

William October 24th 04 02:38 PM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Cheap Shot Robeslob...Why Is No One Surprised?
From:
(William)
Date: 10/21/2004 6:12 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

"KØHB" wrote in message
link.net...
"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote


What was the purpose of your "head's up" letter to Rich, W2VU
about...?!?!


To assist him in searching for the article. I presumed if he had a
vertaim copy it would be much easier to locate the issue it was
published in. Unfortunately (for you) his search was not successful.


Those "actions", including my apology for having gotten it wrong
about CQ
vis-a-vis another source.


No apology has yet appeared on my newsreader nor in my email inbox.

36, de Hans, K0HB

Hans, I see no apology either.

Meanwhile, Steve is manically exhausting all other avenues before he
has to phase the music.

"Face" the music, Brain.


Left Face!

Right Face!

About Face!

Two Face!

As you were! (two faced)

Hi, hi!


Nursie likes the "cross-order drill" stuff... :-)


He especially likes "dress and cover."

But in the end, I'm sure you'll get your
apology because he's told us before that he admits when he's wrong,
even though I've never seen an apology from him.

You only see what you want to see, Brain.


I've since seen your apology. Pretty lame stalling tactic while you
have an ARRL Staffer decide if Hans is a liar.

No intergrity is your accusations, and no integrity in your apologies.

Your word isn't woth much.

Hi, hi!


Nursie doesn't "need" to apologize...she is always right and has
the right to accuse anyone of anything...and does. [nursie is a
code-tested extra and therefore immune from criticism...in her
fantasy world]


There's definitely something very wrong upstairs.

Obviously Hans saw the apology after reading a little bit. Strange,
though, since he "responded" to posts made AFTER those comments, yet stated

he
didn't see those. Oh well...He DID see them and DID respond accordingly.


Strange is Steve. Steve is Strange.


Dr. Strangelove, "qualified medical doctor" is one of his personalities.


Lithium. Grease.

He's in too deep on
this one to snub you on your justly deserved apology.

You need to ask around, Brain. I have made errors before and was not

the
least bit hesitant to come up off of an apology when it was right to do so.


I'm still waiting.


We can wait until hell freezes over, but there won't be any sincere
apologies seen...and there WILL be other threads started with the
obvious personal insults directed to others such as his "Cheap Shot
Brokeslob."


Steve's daily bread.

On the otherhand, we're STILL waiting on apologies from you on your
falsely claimed Somalia operation and your failed claim of "Unlicensed

devices
play a major role in emergency comms" assertions, even though both of those
have been hanging out there for MONTHS.


You need an apology for my Somalia operation???

You go to hell.


He's been there...and got medically discharged...


I never imagined that blanket parties could be so severe. Poor thing.

How long does it take YOU to make an apology for mistated, untruthful

or
errant posts, Brain?

Steve, K4YZ


I've apologized to Dee. I thought she was wrong, I -said- she was
wrong, she was not wrong, and I stood corrected. That's how it works.

Yet you want an apology for my having an OPINION???

You're NUTS!


Cashews...but without the cash.



That only leaves the "ooze."

Len Over 21 October 24th 04 06:26 PM

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: WHICH Extras, Brain?
From: "KØHB"

Date: 10/20/2004 6:42 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id: et

"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote

fm:

to:


Dear Rich,

Some time ago a story appeared in CQ that told a story about a
young,
recently licensed operator who made the mistake of using "CB" lingo on
the
repeater.

The story went on to tell about a "crusty" old op that
subsequently read
him the riot act on the air, causing the young op to rethink his
Amateur
"career".

Can you help me locate this article?

Thanks!

Steve Robeson, LPN
Amateur Call K4YZ
Winchester, TN

fm: K0HB
to: W2VU

Hi Rich,

Just so you know what's going on......

Back in 1997 on one of the USENET newsgroups, rec.radio.amateur.policy,
I wrote the story quoted below. Today I repeated it there in response
to a related post from Jim, AA2QA, trying to promote more harmony among
the various license classes.

Another fellow there, K4YZ, has suggested I plagiarized the story from
CQ magazine, and I've called his bluff. You'll get a message from him
asking to locate the story in CQ.

I asked him about the story without "who what when where why".


...and I'm still asking you the When and Where of those "seven
hostile actions" you claimed to experience. :-)

You haven't answered that yet. [does that sound like you are
a "coward and a liar?" :-) ]


Why, yes, it does, By his very own, very odd definitions.


"Documented Liar and Coward!" :-)

Tsk. He points his finger and forgets the other four fingers are
pointing right back at him! :-)

But remember that there are two sets of rules in play on RRAP.


I know. I'm just trying to figure out which of his personalities is
saying what. I find it difficult to keep track of them.

I asked him a benign question about a "CQ" story.


Tsk. You are as "benign" as a spreading cancer cell...


Malignant?


Highly so.

Oops! Caught me practicing medicine w/o licensure again. Hi!


Tsk on all radio amateurs who aren't "licensed" as medical
experts... :-)

You made it a personal vendetta. Covering your butt.


Tsk, tsk, tsk...gunnery nurse made it all a prime-time project
to "apologize" by calling another names, charging plagiarism,
and generally stating unproven falsehoods about the story
content and its writer.


Just like all of his other charges: without basis. A Robeson
trademark.


I'd say he is industrious. He is busy manufacturing charges of a
remarkable variety.

Problem is that his QC isn't worth snit. Bad products produced.

You had to give your "friend" a "head's up". Turned it into a

flamefest
outside of the firepit. Why do you think it was necessary to give Rich a
"head's up"..?!?!


Tsk, tsk, tsk. Nursie lit the matches, burned her little fingers, then
yells and yells "It's not MY fault!" :-)


Nothing is Steve's fault.


True. He invents all kinds of "charges" then blames all others for
them! :-)

One of the strongest case syndromes of denial I've heard about.

That syndrome seems rampant among the code-tested extras in
here...along with the "599" signal reports. :-)

Does every inquiry about "CQ" magazine require a clarification from

you?

So...nursie still hasn't found the claimed "original story that is
supposed to be plagiarized by Hans?


He's still waiting for an ARRL Staffer to do his legwork for him.
You'd think such a devout ARRL beleiver would have his own copies of
QST, or the searchable CD-ROMs. Maybe his mentor can help him out and
quit wasting my dues money in the process.


Really? RoboHam has a "mentor?"

Oh, yes...Jimmie Who slapping on his wrist with a damp hankie
when Yell-Yell gets too far out of line. Maybe once a week in
here.

Good thing I paid my dues in full so that they could be used to fund
unnecessary searches for crank hams. Hi, hi!

Wonder how those searches through World Radio, the defunct "Ham Radio"
magazine, and Nuts&Volts is coming along?


Tsk. "Steve and da boys" could have simply searched Google.
Hans has written the same story in this newsgroup before. Still
a good tale and good take on the Raddio Kopps with their big,
shiny shields in little wallets used to reinforce their holier-than-
everybody attitudes. :-)

Leave no stone unturned in the search to make Hans a liar and a creep.


Tsk. Stevie done shot off his mouth/keyboard again, doesn't
have the full "licensure" to cure the wounds of his own causing.

Too bad. It might have...for the first time in here...showed some
truth about all those unfounded charges and epithets you level at
others. It didn't.


I believe it did. It showed us that there is a long, long list of
unfounded charges and epithets that Steve has leveled at others, and
the list grows longer each day.


THAT was the truth...another in a long, long list of unfounded
charges and epithets, still growing. :-)

So far, all it has shown is your unstable emotional
state and inability to get along with others in a newsgroup.


That was observable long, long ago. He merely reinforces that image
daily.


That's ALSO the truth. Tsk.

Guess this just kinda confirmed my suspicions about what kind of a

creep
you really are, Hans.


Tsk, tsk, tsk. Nursie's idea of an "apology." :-)


Indeed. Heartfelt sorrow.


Tsk. Stebie tried to make a silk purse out of a sorrow's rear.

He no got "licensure" for tailoring, was bad, bad manufactured
"charge."

Must be her idea of what constitutes "civility." If she makes a mistake
the tactic is to call others lots of nasty names to cover up her own
errors...and then keeps saying she "apologizes." Tsk.


Because there are more than one inside Steve's shell. One rants and
raves, the other apologizes on the rarest of ocassions. It only
appears inconsistent to us outside of that shell.


I wouldn't dare venture inside that "shell." I'd get shell-shocked.

An example of modern American amateur radio highest-class
licensee in action. [very hostile action] Role model...NOT.



bb


Welp, the other (self-righteous) "role models for ham radio" are
strangely silent on any sort of criticism. They must condone his
actions of damning anyone who is against his opinions. Doesn't
say much for those individuals...sure as hell doesn't present a
good image of U.S. amateur radio to the rest of the country and
neighbors.



Len Over 21 October 24th 04 06:26 PM

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Cheap Shot Robeslob...Why Is No One Surprised?
From:
(William)
Date: 10/21/2004 6:12 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

"KØHB" wrote in message
link.net...
"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote


What was the purpose of your "head's up" letter to Rich, W2VU
about...?!?!


To assist him in searching for the article. I presumed if he had a
vertaim copy it would be much easier to locate the issue it was
published in. Unfortunately (for you) his search was not successful.


Those "actions", including my apology for having gotten it

wrong
about CQ
vis-a-vis another source.


No apology has yet appeared on my newsreader nor in my email inbox.

36, de Hans, K0HB

Hans, I see no apology either.

Meanwhile, Steve is manically exhausting all other avenues before he
has to phase the music.

"Face" the music, Brain.

Left Face!

Right Face!

About Face!

Two Face!

As you were! (two faced)

Hi, hi!


Nursie likes the "cross-order drill" stuff... :-)


He especially likes "dress and cover."


...in anything with a uniform. :-)

But in the end, I'm sure you'll get your
apology because he's told us before that he admits when he's wrong,
even though I've never seen an apology from him.

You only see what you want to see, Brain.

I've since seen your apology. Pretty lame stalling tactic while you
have an ARRL Staffer decide if Hans is a liar.

No intergrity is your accusations, and no integrity in your apologies.

Your word isn't woth much.

Hi, hi!


Nursie doesn't "need" to apologize...she is always right and has
the right to accuse anyone of anything...and does. [nursie is a
code-tested extra and therefore immune from criticism...in her
fantasy world]


There's definitely something very wrong upstairs.


Tsk. He keeps looking in his mirror and ascribing the image's
faults to others. Characteristic.

Obviously Hans saw the apology after reading a little bit.

Strange,
though, since he "responded" to posts made AFTER those comments, yet

stated
he
didn't see those. Oh well...He DID see them and DID respond

accordingly.

Strange is Steve. Steve is Strange.


Dr. Strangelove, "qualified medical doctor" is one of his personalities.


Lithium. Grease.


He keeps trying to get all to "bend over" for him. Not good.

He's in too deep on
this one to snub you on your justly deserved apology.

You need to ask around, Brain. I have made errors before and was

not
the
least bit hesitant to come up off of an apology when it was right to do

so.

I'm still waiting.


We can wait until hell freezes over, but there won't be any sincere
apologies seen...and there WILL be other threads started with the
obvious personal insults directed to others such as his "Cheap Shot
Brokeslob."


Steve's daily bread.


He needs a new diet. Desperately.

On the otherhand, we're STILL waiting on apologies from you on your
falsely claimed Somalia operation and your failed claim of "Unlicensed

devices
play a major role in emergency comms" assertions, even though both of

those
have been hanging out there for MONTHS.

You need an apology for my Somalia operation???

You go to hell.


He's been there...and got medically discharged...


I never imagined that blanket parties could be so severe. Poor thing.


It's a new cause of Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder. :-)

How long does it take YOU to make an apology for mistated,

untruthful
or
errant posts, Brain?

Steve, K4YZ

I've apologized to Dee. I thought she was wrong, I -said- she was
wrong, she was not wrong, and I stood corrected. That's how it works.

Yet you want an apology for my having an OPINION???

You're NUTS!


Cashews...but without the cash.



That only leaves the "ooze."


...or peanuts without the n***? :-)


Enough of this hilarity. Have to see what the rest of the amateurs
are discussing in this newsgroup for Architectural Digest and the
Naval Institute. Very Important subjects concerning amateur
radio policy! :-)



William October 25th 04 02:31 AM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: WHICH Extras, Brain?
From: "KØHB"

Date: 10/20/2004 6:42 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id: et

"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote

fm:

to:


Dear Rich,

Some time ago a story appeared in CQ that told a story about a
young,
recently licensed operator who made the mistake of using "CB" lingo on
the
repeater.

The story went on to tell about a "crusty" old op that
subsequently read
him the riot act on the air, causing the young op to rethink his
Amateur
"career".

Can you help me locate this article?

Thanks!

Steve Robeson, LPN
Amateur Call K4YZ
Winchester, TN

fm: K0HB
to: W2VU

Hi Rich,

Just so you know what's going on......

Back in 1997 on one of the USENET newsgroups, rec.radio.amateur.policy,
I wrote the story quoted below. Today I repeated it there in response
to a related post from Jim, AA2QA, trying to promote more harmony among
the various license classes.

Another fellow there, K4YZ, has suggested I plagiarized the story from
CQ magazine, and I've called his bluff. You'll get a message from him
asking to locate the story in CQ.

I asked him about the story without "who what when where why".

...and I'm still asking you the When and Where of those "seven
hostile actions" you claimed to experience. :-)

You haven't answered that yet. [does that sound like you are
a "coward and a liar?" :-) ]


Why, yes, it does, By his very own, very odd definitions.


"Documented Liar and Coward!" :-)

Tsk. He points his finger and forgets the other four fingers are
pointing right back at him! :-)

But remember that there are two sets of rules in play on RRAP.


I know. I'm just trying to figure out which of his personalities is
saying what. I find it difficult to keep track of them.

I asked him a benign question about a "CQ" story.

Tsk. You are as "benign" as a spreading cancer cell...


Malignant?


Highly so.

Oops! Caught me practicing medicine w/o licensure again. Hi!


Tsk on all radio amateurs who aren't "licensed" as medical
experts... :-)

You made it a personal vendetta. Covering your butt.

Tsk, tsk, tsk...gunnery nurse made it all a prime-time project
to "apologize" by calling another names, charging plagiarism,
and generally stating unproven falsehoods about the story
content and its writer.


Just like all of his other charges: without basis. A Robeson
trademark.


I'd say he is industrious. He is busy manufacturing charges of a
remarkable variety.

Problem is that his QC isn't worth snit. Bad products produced.

You had to give your "friend" a "head's up". Turned it into a

flamefest
outside of the firepit. Why do you think it was necessary to give Rich a
"head's up"..?!?!

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Nursie lit the matches, burned her little fingers, then
yells and yells "It's not MY fault!" :-)


Nothing is Steve's fault.


True. He invents all kinds of "charges" then blames all others for
them! :-)

One of the strongest case syndromes of denial I've heard about.

That syndrome seems rampant among the code-tested extras in
here...along with the "599" signal reports. :-)

Does every inquiry about "CQ" magazine require a clarification from

you?

So...nursie still hasn't found the claimed "original story that is
supposed to be plagiarized by Hans?


He's still waiting for an ARRL Staffer to do his legwork for him.
You'd think such a devout ARRL beleiver would have his own copies of
QST, or the searchable CD-ROMs. Maybe his mentor can help him out and
quit wasting my dues money in the process.


Really? RoboHam has a "mentor?"

Oh, yes...Jimmie Who slapping on his wrist with a damp hankie
when Yell-Yell gets too far out of line. Maybe once a week in
here.

Good thing I paid my dues in full so that they could be used to fund
unnecessary searches for crank hams. Hi, hi!

Wonder how those searches through World Radio, the defunct "Ham Radio"
magazine, and Nuts&Volts is coming along?


Tsk. "Steve and da boys" could have simply searched Google.
Hans has written the same story in this newsgroup before. Still
a good tale and good take on the Raddio Kopps with their big,
shiny shields in little wallets used to reinforce their holier-than-
everybody attitudes. :-)

Leave no stone unturned in the search to make Hans a liar and a creep.


Tsk. Stevie done shot off his mouth/keyboard again, doesn't
have the full "licensure" to cure the wounds of his own causing.

Too bad. It might have...for the first time in here...showed some
truth about all those unfounded charges and epithets you level at
others. It didn't.


I believe it did. It showed us that there is a long, long list of
unfounded charges and epithets that Steve has leveled at others, and
the list grows longer each day.


THAT was the truth...another in a long, long list of unfounded
charges and epithets, still growing. :-)

So far, all it has shown is your unstable emotional
state and inability to get along with others in a newsgroup.


That was observable long, long ago. He merely reinforces that image
daily.


That's ALSO the truth. Tsk.

Guess this just kinda confirmed my suspicions about what kind of a

creep
you really are, Hans.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Nursie's idea of an "apology." :-)


Indeed. Heartfelt sorrow.


Tsk. Stebie tried to make a silk purse out of a sorrow's rear.

He no got "licensure" for tailoring, was bad, bad manufactured
"charge."

Must be her idea of what constitutes "civility." If she makes a mistake
the tactic is to call others lots of nasty names to cover up her own
errors...and then keeps saying she "apologizes." Tsk.


Because there are more than one inside Steve's shell. One rants and
raves, the other apologizes on the rarest of ocassions. It only
appears inconsistent to us outside of that shell.


I wouldn't dare venture inside that "shell." I'd get shell-shocked.

An example of modern American amateur radio highest-class
licensee in action. [very hostile action] Role model...NOT.



bb


Welp, the other (self-righteous) "role models for ham radio" are
strangely silent on any sort of criticism. They must condone his
actions of damning anyone who is against his opinions. Doesn't
say much for those individuals...sure as hell doesn't present a
good image of U.S. amateur radio to the rest of the country and
neighbors.




It amazes me each and every day that I witness these acts. I should
be used to it by now.

Steve Robeson, K4CAP October 25th 04 06:08 AM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: WHICH Extras, Brain?
From: "KØHB"

Date: 10/20/2004 6:42 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id: et

"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote

fm:

to:


Dear Rich,

Some time ago a story appeared in CQ that told a story about a
young,
recently licensed operator who made the mistake of using "CB" lingo on
the
repeater.

The story went on to tell about a "crusty" old op that
subsequently read
him the riot act on the air, causing the young op to rethink his
Amateur
"career".

Can you help me locate this article?

Thanks!

Steve Robeson, LPN
Amateur Call K4YZ
Winchester, TN

fm: K0HB
to: W2VU

Hi Rich,

Just so you know what's going on......

Back in 1997 on one of the USENET newsgroups, rec.radio.amateur.policy,
I wrote the story quoted below. Today I repeated it there in response
to a related post from Jim, AA2QA, trying to promote more harmony among
the various license classes.

Another fellow there, K4YZ, has suggested I plagiarized the story from
CQ magazine, and I've called his bluff. You'll get a message from him
asking to locate the story in CQ.

I asked him about the story without "who what when where why".

...and I'm still asking you the When and Where of those "seven
hostile actions" you claimed to experience. :-)

You haven't answered that yet. [does that sound like you are
a "coward and a liar?" :-) ]


Why, yes, it does, By his very own, very odd definitions.


"Documented Liar and Coward!"


Glad you agree, Lennie, but then YOU "trained" him.

Tsk. He points his finger and forgets the other four fingers are
pointing right back at him!


You obviously use one finger to "point", Lennie.

In most countries of the world that's considered very rude...Not
that YOU have a problem with being rude.

I personally use an open hand for emphasis. Like most CAREER
military veterans do...

But remember that there are two sets of rules in play on RRAP.


Three...Lennie's, Brain's, and the rest of us.

Putz.

Steve, K4YZ

Steve Robeson, K4CAP October 25th 04 06:09 AM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:


Here we go with another Putz and Putz Jr back-slapping contest.

Steve, K4YZ

Len Over 21 October 25th 04 07:19 AM

In article ,
(William) writes:

Must be her idea of what constitutes "civility." If she makes a

mistake
the tactic is to call others lots of nasty names to cover up her own
errors...and then keeps saying she "apologizes." Tsk.

Because there are more than one inside Steve's shell. One rants and
raves, the other apologizes on the rarest of ocassions. It only
appears inconsistent to us outside of that shell.


I wouldn't dare venture inside that "shell." I'd get shell-shocked.

An example of modern American amateur radio highest-class
licensee in action. [very hostile action] Role model...NOT.



bb


Welp, the other (self-righteous) "role models for ham radio" are
strangely silent on any sort of criticism. They must condone his
actions of damning anyone who is against his opinions. Doesn't
say much for those individuals...sure as hell doesn't present a
good image of U.S. amateur radio to the rest of the country and
neighbors.



It amazes me each and every day that I witness these acts. I should
be used to it by now.


I expect it. Gunnery nurse is too deep in his self-deception to let go.

It will only get worse. He thinks the universe is against him or
something. Paranoia might start to peak soon.

shrug



William October 25th 04 11:48 AM

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:


Here we go with another Putz and Putz Jr back-slapping contest.

Steve, K4YZ


Or another Robeson Slap-Fest.

Steve Robeson K4CAP October 25th 04 01:18 PM

Subject: Cheap Shot Robeslob...Why Is No One Surprised?
From: (William)
Date: 10/25/2004 5:48 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message
.com...
(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:


Here we go with another Putz and Putz Jr back-slapping contest.

Steve, K4YZ


Or another Robeson Slap-Fest.


Well...if you WANT me to slap you, I will...but you HAVE to say PLEASE
first.

Steve, K4YZ







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