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Len Over 21 wrote:
In article , (William) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (William) writes: Well, "Dave" is going to chime in with his usual 'nyah-nyah, you ain't involved' solilloqy (or is that 'silly-que?') most any time now. Leonard Anderson is not a participant in amateur radio. Then it will be time to ring his chimes for the false notes they are. That'll be some trick. The sentence, "Leonard Anderson is not a participant in amateur radio" is completely true. "Dave" doesn't want any dissent in here. That's incorrect. Sound ideas, pleasantly introduced will get no rise out of me. Then there's your way... Some other PCTAs think the same...so they diss and diss those that present opposite- to-PCTA opinions...and then cuss and cuss the people who present those. Don't lump all of those other folks in with yourself, Len. By the way, you've never been cussed by me at all. Dave K8MN |
Len Over 21 wrote: In article et, "Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com writes: "Len Over 21" wrote in message ... There's been a traditional Holiday in the USA followed by the November 2nd Day of Mourning. :-) My written remark was a wry bit of humor IN GENERAL about the result of the November 2nd voting...for ALL offices and issues on the various ballots. HUMOR seems lacking. Yes, your humor is lacking. Tsk. You use that as an opening for more Trash Talk and Hate Spam trolling in order to "justify" a personal insult. "Hate Spam"? Tsk, tsk. Ya cain't fix stupid, can ya? :-) It would be soooooo easy to give you the response you so richly deserve. I'll let it pass. I found more relationship to the Mexican Day of the Dead in regards to the "mourning." Perhaps I'm way too subtle for the likes of you? You have many attributes, Len. I don't see "subtle" as one of them. Dan/W4NTI Bush Bush FOR MORE YEARS !! Okay, you get "four" (not "for") more years of Mikey Powell as Commissioner in Charge of the FCC and his wonderful acts of kindness to hobbyists ("hams" to you, saviors of the radio world in your thinking) due to Access BPL. Enjoy the noise in your receiver. :-) Apparently this is another instance where you don't have your ducks in a row. It looks as if we'll not have Michael (not Mikey) Powell for four more years. Now that the General Election is (finally!) over, there MIGHT be some action on the 18 petitions plus NPRM on Part 97, Title 47 C.F.R. Do not worry. Your Big Brother in Newington is going to SYA for you by pointing to Powell and making rude noises from Haynie and Sumner. Enjoy the response that results. Do you think that Jim Haynie and Dave Sumner will stand on the sidewalk shouting, "Mikey!"? Have you joined your National Guard yet? Don't they need all those wonderful morsemen to "go behind the lines" to "send intel back to the 'front'" as they did in WW2? [or was that WW1?] Serve your country the PROPER way, not by imagining you are some sort of "credit" because you indulge in morsemanship on the ham bands. I think you best serve your country as you serve amateur radio: by posting here. Dave K8MN |
William wrote:
His namecalling has reached a creshendo. It has reached a what? Dave K8MN |
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(William) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (William) writes: (Steve Robeson K4YZ) wrote in message ... Subject: Good News About 40 Meters From: (William) Date: 11/5/2004 9:59 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: (Steve Robeson K4YZ) wrote in message ... Brian P. Burke is still a liar and a coward. I's so sad that Steve Robeson has no purpose in life other than to call other people names. Oh, I have PLENTY of purposes in life, Brain. Then you need to swear out a statement affirming such and have it notarized. Paste it on your forehead and slap it on your trailer. I would suggest a tatoo...but that might be considered as "defacing government property..." :-) And he already has too many faces. A Janus multiplied by pie? :-) And they aren't "names" if they are true. Sure they are. What kind of moron would think otherwise? His kind of moron? :-) You are a liar. YOU have proven that. Nope. I speak the truth. You lie, and you are a pathological name caller, usually focussing on the male genitalia. See below. Now now, "Steve" has been federally tested to a high rate of morsemanship. In achieving an amateur license his is now a "qualified name-caller" and may bypass normal sociological considerations. Bypass? Tsk. Someone got the bypass wrong when they had him in stitches. You are a coward. YOU have proven that. I am no coward. In your eastern Tennesee redneck "I'm gonna knock yer dick in the dirt" sort of way, I think that you are working up the courage to challenge me to a duel. Is that your intent? Sounds like 'Steve' wants to meet you at Dayton to FIGHT you. It does sound that way. I'm just wondering when he's going to screw up enough courage to blurt it out. His namecalling has reached a creshendo. So what's next? Probably an AOL Home page denouncing you in public. Tsk. He tried that once on me...lasted about two days and AOL trashed it along with his "new" screen name on AOL. He be dumm enough to try it again. :-( That must be the way the "new" U.S. ham radio is...a bunch of angry radio users wanting to FIGHT anyone who doesn't agree with them. Not for me. Must be why I haven't gotten an amateur license after so long as a professional in radio-electronics. And they worried about the unwashed getting into amateur radio. I would imagine that ham radio is a fun activity. But, forbidden to talk about it (one of the radio gods says "I'm not involved!"), I won't speculate. :-) What all the "boosters" want is fresh, clean minds that can be easily brainwashed into believing the olde-tymers are the absolute masters of radio (because they are skilled in morse- manship). Minimal life experience is required since some exposure to the adult population will demonstrate those olde- tymers aren't of such god-like sagacity or nobility as they pretend to be. Young teen-agers are wanted for that by the olde-tymers...because that is how They got into it...as teeners. Those of adult age are really not wanted by the olde-tymers. Those olde-tymers have found out (the hard way) that the olde-tymers aren't worshipped by other adults as gods of radio...and usually don't come close to such god-hood. They feel exposed (with some anxiety) when in the company of those who've had actual radio communications experience in radio other than amateurism. Putz is purely an opinion on my part, but one that seems to be well borne out. You wouldn't recognize "well borne out" even it it were your own father. 'Steve' would be totally ignorant of the world around him if he were on Fairfax in Los Angeles or Maxwell Street in Chicago. Lots of Yiddish heard there...sometimes pejoratives are shouted. :-) 'Steve' da goyim must be a closet Yiddisher. :-) I'm not sure what he is. Oy gevalt...like he is a schmuck...to be polite. :-) Steve, K4YZ BTW, typo Lord..."It's" is just that......Have a beer...calm down (Lennie says you're angry!) I was practicing ebonics, Quitedipschit. The former surgeon general had no problem with it, why should you? Tsk. 'Steve' LIED again. I've never been angry at you, Brian. :-) Thank you. Nor I you. But the daily "liar" and "coward" name calling must be leading somewhere. If it were worth the gamble, I'd say he be whipping up a 2nd nasty home page...somewhere. :-) More tsk. Poor very-EX-marine couldn't celebrate the birthday. He is no longer INVOLVED there. Must have made him angrier than two people. Perhaps all his personalities are angry? Only a Vulcan Mind Meld could sort it out. "His minds to your minds...your mind to his minds." :-) Even T'Pau wouldn't bother to meld with him. Your move. Hopefully to another venue...but I don't expect it. :-) Welp, in another brand new thread, he's called me every name in the book and has declared that I'm filtered. Out-friggin-Standing! Isn't it, though? :-) Not to worry...he no do what he say he do...he's GOT to read EVERYTHING and drop whatever he be doing to REPLY. His "honor" is at stake. :-) Pity that this "Quitefine" condones such blather from 'Steve.' Haven't seen a thing from Jimmie-as-another-newsgroupie under the "Quitefine" label. Or maybe he's just out of damp hankies...? Maybe he's Quitefiltered? He be Quitedisgusting in his "sensitivity." :-) |
Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote: "KØHB" wrote in message thlink.net... "William" wrote He must feel a kinship with K8MN. Are Daves' ancestors from Lebanon? 73, de Hans, K0HB I'm not sure what Dave's pedigree is. ...directly back through all the Plantagenets to William the Conqueror. There are probably several hundred people in this county who can claim the same line. There are likely more in parts of Maryland. Dave K8MN Well there you have it! |
"Dave Heil" wrote in message ... William wrote: His namecalling has reached a creshendo. It has reached a what? Dave K8MN Dave com'on ...you know what that is ... a Japanese manger set ...... 73 Tom KI3R Belle Vernon Pa |
garigue wrote:
"Dave Heil" wrote in message ... William wrote: His namecalling has reached a creshendo. It has reached a what? Dave com'on ...you know what that is ... a Japanese manger set ...... 73 Tom KI3R Belle Vernon Pa Oh man! Tim, you had me spraying coffee through my nose. Dave K8MN |
"KØHB" wrote in news:dZcid.2863$O11.2406
@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net: "Alun" wrote Well, it gives us a window to work with, for a few countries. For as long as I can remember there's been a "window" on 40 meters where I've been able to work any country in EU. Starts at 7.000 and stretches upward for 100KHz. 73, de Hans, K0HB Not true for phone ops though, is it? |
"Alun L. Palmer" wrote in message
... "KØHB" wrote in news:dZcid.2863$O11.2406 @newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net: "Alun" wrote Well, it gives us a window to work with, for a few countries. For as long as I can remember there's been a "window" on 40 meters where I've been able to work any country in EU. Starts at 7.000 and stretches upward for 100KHz. 73, de Hans, K0HB Not true for phone ops though, is it? "Learn it... Earn it." That spectrum has always been available to all willing to upgrade their ticket. -- Vy 73 de Bert WA2SI FISTS #9384/CC #1736 QRP ARCI #11782 |
Alun L. Palmer wrote:
For as long as I can remember there's been a "window" on 40 meters where I've been able to work any country in EU. Starts at 7.000 and stretches upward for 100KHz. 73, de Hans, K0HB Not true for phone ops though, is it? Channels 1-40 on the CB work for them..... heh heh.... |
"David Stinson" wrote in message .net... Alun L. Palmer wrote: For as long as I can remember there's been a "window" on 40 meters where I've been able to work any country in EU. Starts at 7.000 and stretches upward for 100KHz. 73, de Hans, K0HB Not true for phone ops though, is it? sure it is, they just have to know how to use their 'split' button. of course now some europeans can go up to 7200, so that is a bit of a help. |
"Alun L. Palmer" wrote in message ... "KØHB" wrote in news:dZcid.2863$O11.2406 @newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net: "Alun" wrote Well, it gives us a window to work with, for a few countries. For as long as I can remember there's been a "window" on 40 meters where I've been able to work any country in EU. Starts at 7.000 and stretches upward for 100KHz. 73, de Hans, K0HB Not true for phone ops though, is it? Actually, quite a few of the EU countries have opened 7100-7200 to their hams as a result of the outcome of WRC-03. About 2 weeks ago, I worked G0EVY, Dave, in central UK, on about 7195 SSB from my mobile at around 11:00 pm EDT while driving back from a ham club meeting in New Jersey. Dave was a solid S9+ and indicated that he's on that part of the band practically every night for several hours. 73, Carl - wk3c |
Dave wrote: sure it is, they just have to know how to use their 'split' button. of course now some europeans can go up to 7200, so that is a bit of a help. A-yup...My FT-757 isn't the most luxurious rig on the market, but that split feature works well...Use it lots for the DX tests...Even for routine calls...I've made a lot of "random" QSOs by tuning 7050 to 7100 then transmitting where they indicate they are listening. 73 Steve, K4YZ |
Bert Craig wrote: "Alun L. Palmer" wrote in message ... "K=D8HB" wrote in news:dZcid.2863$O11.2406 @newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net: "Alun" wrote Well, it gives us a window to work with, for a few countries. For as long as I can remember there's been a "window" on 40 meters whe= re I've been able to work any country in EU. Starts at 7.000 and stretch= es upward for 100KHz. 73, de Hans, K0HB Not true for phone ops though, is it? "Learn it... Earn it." That spectrum has always been available to all willing to upgrade their ticket. There are plenty of 20WPM Code-Tape Extras out there who've earned it but don't use the mode. |
K4YZ wrote: Dave wrote: sure it is, they just have to know how to use their 'split' button. of course now some europeans can go up to 7200, so that is a bit of a help. A-yup...My FT-757 isn't the most luxurious rig on the market, but that split feature works well...Use it lots for the DX tests...Even for routine calls...I've made a lot of "random" QSOs by tuning 7050 to 7100 then transmitting where they indicate they are listening. If they are indicating where they are listening, it's not random. |
"Dave" wrote in message ... "David Stinson" wrote in message .net... Alun L. Palmer wrote: For as long as I can remember there's been a "window" on 40 meters where I've been able to work any country in EU. Starts at 7.000 and stretches upward for 100KHz. 73, de Hans, K0HB Not true for phone ops though, is it? sure it is, they just have to know how to use their 'split' button. of course now some europeans can go up to 7200, so that is a bit of a help. Yup. One can run quite a few DX stations split during the major voice contests on 40 meters. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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oups.com... Bert Craig wrote: "Alun L. Palmer" wrote in message ... "KØHB" wrote in news:dZcid.2863$O11.2406 @newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net: "Alun" wrote Well, it gives us a window to work with, for a few countries. For as long as I can remember there's been a "window" on 40 meters where I've been able to work any country in EU. Starts at 7.000 and stretches upward for 100KHz. 73, de Hans, K0HB Not true for phone ops though, is it? "Learn it... Earn it." That spectrum has always been available to all willing to upgrade their ticket. There are plenty of 20WPM Code-Tape Extras out there who've earned it but don't use the mode. Conversely, there are plenty of 5-wpm Extras who "earned" it and discovered that CW is actually quite fun, not to mention a seriously "bitchin'" (Pardon my French.) mode for snagging the DX that rarely, if ever, shows up on phone. Oops gotta run... Toly, 4L1MA just showed up on the bottom of 20. hihi -- Vy 73 de Bert WA2SI FISTS #9384/CC #1736 QRP ARCI #11782 |
"Bert Craig" wrote in
: "Alun L. Palmer" wrote in message ... "KØHB" wrote in news:dZcid.2863$O11.2406 @newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net: "Alun" wrote Well, it gives us a window to work with, for a few countries. For as long as I can remember there's been a "window" on 40 meters where I've been able to work any country in EU. Starts at 7.000 and stretches upward for 100KHz. 73, de Hans, K0HB Not true for phone ops though, is it? "Learn it... Earn it." That spectrum has always been available to all willing to upgrade their ticket. You just don't get it, do you? I'm alreadt an Extra and I passed 20 wpm. I want to talk to people, not beep at them! |
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Alun L. Palmer wrote:
Until each country gets the additional 7100- 7200 spectrum, truly random phone QSOs remain impossible. Why "impossible"? More and more countries are opening 7100-7200 to their hams. In less than 5 years the SWBC will all be gone. Non-split 'phone DX QSOs on 40 are becoming more and more common. If someone over there calls CQ and doesn't listen up, they get to work any country they want bar one, the USA, so why should 90% of them listen up? Ergo, most of them don't. Here's a clue: Many of them don't want just another Yank QSL. There are so many US hams that if they don't "listen up", there's probably a very good reason. A lot of DX 'phones work split almost as a rule - not just on 40 but on every band, as a way of thinning out the QRM and keeping their own QRG clear. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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Alun L. Palmer wrote: That's exactly the problem. Until each country gets the additional 7100- 7200 spectrum, truly random phone QSOs remain impossible. If someone over there calls CQ and doesn't listen up, they get to work any country they want bar one, the USA, so why should 90% of them listen up? Ergo, most of them don't. Not only that, but for many of us "listening up" is worthless. 7100 up and 3850 up are full of broadcast stations, often several on the same frequency. There is no place to listen up. The only chance I have of a voice QSO with the U.S. is on 20m just before and after sunset. Since that's currently around noon on the east coast, there aren't a lot of people listening. When the sunspots are with me, I can pick up 10m repeaters with an HT. I've never been able to work one with it. 73, Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (077)-424-1667 IL Fax: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 Support the growing boycott of Google by radio users and hobbyists. It's starting to work, Yahoo has surpassed Google. |
"Alun L. Palmer" wrote in message
... "Bert Craig" wrote in : "Alun L. Palmer" wrote in message ... "KØHB" wrote in news:dZcid.2863$O11.2406 @newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net: "Alun" wrote Well, it gives us a window to work with, for a few countries. For as long as I can remember there's been a "window" on 40 meters where I've been able to work any country in EU. Starts at 7.000 and stretches upward for 100KHz. 73, de Hans, K0HB Not true for phone ops though, is it? "Learn it... Earn it." That spectrum has always been available to all willing to upgrade their ticket. You just don't get it, do you? I'm alreadt an Extra and I passed 20 wpm. I want to talk to people, not beep at them! I "get it" just fine, Alun. I just don't agree with it. I'm quite aware that you're already an Extra and passed Element 1C, however, there is plenty of spectrum where one can "talk." The bottom of the bands is a place to "beep" and is quite often the only place where some pretty rare DX shows up. It's sad enough that the FCC appears willing to acquiesce to the spirit of underachievement. I certainly don't want to have the bottom of the bands QRM'd with phone transmissions just because those who celebrate this underachievement want more RF real estate to "talk." Those who have had a phone QSO pop up on top of their CW QSO on or about 7040 late at night may understand this a little better. -- Vy 73 de Bert WA2SI FISTS #9384/CC #1736 QRP ARCI #11782 |
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 10:21:02 +0000 (UTC), Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
The only chance I have of a voice QSO with the U.S. is on 20m just before and after sunset. Since that's currently around noon on the east coast, there aren't a lot of people listening. When I was living in Ramat Gan, that was the schedule that I maintained, two sunspot cycles ago (38 years or so). 15 and 20 meters. The US was a double hop away, and the Tel Aviv - NY commercial HF radiotelephone circuit (pre-underseas cable, pre-satellite) was the worst one we had. We had a better chance Tel Aviv - Paris or Tel Aviv - London and then on TAT-5 to New York. I was involved in the upgrade negotiations, but the Tel Aviv - Marseilles cable and eventually the IntelSat circuits came on line several years after I left. No sweat - the folks whom I communicated with on 20 and 15 meters were available. I made the first legal ham phone patch between 4X4 and the US in 1965, and had to beat the Germans and Russian stations off with a stick!! "Ah, for the good old days..." -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane (4X4UQ) |
"Bert Craig" wrote in
: "Alun L. Palmer" wrote in message ... "Bert Craig" wrote in : "Alun L. Palmer" wrote in message ... "KØHB" wrote in news:dZcid.2863$O11.2406 @newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net: "Alun" wrote Well, it gives us a window to work with, for a few countries. For as long as I can remember there's been a "window" on 40 meters where I've been able to work any country in EU. Starts at 7.000 and stretches upward for 100KHz. 73, de Hans, K0HB Not true for phone ops though, is it? "Learn it... Earn it." That spectrum has always been available to all willing to upgrade their ticket. You just don't get it, do you? I'm alreadt an Extra and I passed 20 wpm. I want to talk to people, not beep at them! I "get it" just fine, Alun. I just don't agree with it. I'm quite aware that you're already an Extra and passed Element 1C, That's not apparent from what you said however, there is plenty of spectrum where one can "talk." The bottom of the bands is a place to "beep" and is quite often the only place where some pretty rare DX shows up. It's sad enough that the FCC appears willing to acquiesce to the spirit of underachievement. I certainly don't want to have the bottom of the bands QRM'd with phone transmissions just because those who celebrate this underachievement want more RF real estate to "talk." If underacheivement isn't not having passed element 1C, then you must be labelling wanting to operate phone atall as underacheivement? So you don't like phone ops - at least we are getting down to your true colours! Those who have had a phone QSO pop up on top of their CW QSO on or about 7040 late at night may understand this a little better. Those who look at the IARU bandplans will see that a phone op on 7040 is in the right place in many countries. Even here in region 2 phone extends down to 7050. |
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