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N2EY October 30th 04 01:56 PM

Good News About 40 Meters
 
==BRITISH AMATEURS GET ADDITIONAL 100 kHz ON 40 METERS OCTOBER 31

Starting at 0100 UTC October 31, the 40 meter band in the British Isles
will effectively double in size when radio amateurs there gain access to
7100 to 7200 kHz. Ofcom, the UK telecommunications regulatory authority,
announced the Notice of Variation October 26.

The change, in the works since last year, is a result of actions taken
during World Radiocommunication Conference 2003, where conferees agreed
to move broadcasters out of 7100 to 7200 kHz in Regions 1 and 3 to make
room for the Amateur Service. Coincidentally, the UK band expansion, which
also includes independently governed regions where Ofcom regulates
telecommunications, will occur just about halfway through the CQ World
Wide Contest (SSB) this weekend. Contesters take note!

The Ofcom NOV makes the segment available on a secondary basis, and
amateur stations in the UK and affected regions may not cause
interference to stations operating in other radio services inside or outside
the UK.

The UK and Ofcom-administered regions join the Republic of
Ireland--which reportedly gained access October 20--as well as Croatia, Norway
and San Marino among Region 1 countries that have authorized access to the
additional spectrum on a secondary basis. The WRC-03 change does not
formally go into effect until 2009.-thanks to Lawrence Woolf, GJ3RAX;
RSGB

= = =
FROM THE ARRL LETTER 10/30/2004




William October 30th 04 11:14 PM

PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message ...
==BRITISH AMATEURS GET ADDITIONAL 100 kHz ON 40 METERS OCTOBER 31

Starting at 0100 UTC October 31, the 40 meter band in the British Isles
will effectively double in size when radio amateurs there gain access to
7100 to 7200 kHz. Ofcom, the UK telecommunications regulatory authority,
announced the Notice of Variation October 26.


Hmmmm? I guess we are allowed to know about another countries operating priveleges.

Robert Casey October 31st 04 12:17 AM




Hmmmm? I guess we are allowed to know about another countries operating priveleges.


Last I heard the Internet newsgroups are international forums.
And it would explain the presense of UK hams on frequencies
they haven't been before.

Dave Heil October 31st 04 01:45 AM

William wrote:

PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message ...
==BRITISH AMATEURS GET ADDITIONAL 100 kHz ON 40 METERS OCTOBER 31

Starting at 0100 UTC October 31, the 40 meter band in the British Isles
will effectively double in size when radio amateurs there gain access to
7100 to 7200 kHz. Ofcom, the UK telecommunications regulatory authority,
announced the Notice of Variation October 26.


Hmmmm? I guess we are allowed to know about another countries operating priveleges.


You must be jiving us. Otherwise I might be inclined to think that
you're a bit of a dim bulb. You've been told a number of times that
there is a large difference betweening "being allowed" and "being
required" to know.

I've been playing in the CQ Worldwide DX 'test this evening. I've CQ'd
in the American band, announcing a listening frequency below 7.100.
I've not paused a single time to check a lookup table or the internet
before responding to any of those who replied to my CQ. Maybe you
should make an effort to police 75 and 40m over the weekend. Some of
those shifty DX stations may try to pull a fast one.

Dave K8MN

Brian Kelly November 1st 04 07:43 AM

PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message ...
==BRITISH AMATEURS GET ADDITIONAL 100 kHz ON 40 METERS OCTOBER 31

Starting at 0100 UTC October 31, the 40 meter band in the British Isles
will effectively double in size when radio amateurs there gain access to
7100 to 7200 kHz. Ofcom, the UK telecommunications regulatory authority,
announced the Notice of Variation October 26.

The change, in the works since last year, is a result of actions taken
during World Radiocommunication Conference 2003, where conferees agreed
to move broadcasters out of 7100 to 7200 kHz in Regions 1 and 3 to make
room for the Amateur Service. Coincidentally, the UK band expansion, which
also includes independently governed regions where Ofcom regulates
telecommunications, will occur just about halfway through the CQ World
Wide Contest (SSB) this weekend. Contesters take note!

The Ofcom NOV makes the segment available on a secondary basis, and
amateur stations in the UK and affected regions may not cause
interference to stations operating in other radio services inside or outside
the UK.

The UK and Ofcom-administered regions join the Republic of
Ireland--which reportedly gained access October 20--as well as Croatia, Norway
and San Marino among Region 1 countries that have authorized access to the
additional spectrum on a secondary basis. The WRC-03 change does not
formally go into effect until 2009.-thanks to Lawrence Woolf, GJ3RAX;
RSGB

= = =
FROM THE ARRL LETTER 10/30/2004


.. . . oughta take care of Alun's whining about not being able to
"transceive with his chums back home" . . . bleh . .

w3rv

Dan/W4NTI November 1st 04 10:44 PM


"Dave Heil" wrote in message
...
William wrote:

PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message

...
==BRITISH AMATEURS GET ADDITIONAL 100 kHz ON 40 METERS OCTOBER 31

Starting at 0100 UTC October 31, the 40 meter band in the British

Isles
will effectively double in size when radio amateurs there gain access

to
7100 to 7200 kHz. Ofcom, the UK telecommunications regulatory

authority,
announced the Notice of Variation October 26.


Hmmmm? I guess we are allowed to know about another countries operating

priveleges.

You must be jiving us. Otherwise I might be inclined to think that
you're a bit of a dim bulb. You've been told a number of times that
there is a large difference betweening "being allowed" and "being
required" to know.

I've been playing in the CQ Worldwide DX 'test this evening. I've CQ'd
in the American band, announcing a listening frequency below 7.100.
I've not paused a single time to check a lookup table or the internet
before responding to any of those who replied to my CQ. Maybe you
should make an effort to police 75 and 40m over the weekend. Some of
those shifty DX stations may try to pull a fast one.

Dave K8MN


Hi Hi,

I too worked several of the G stations in the ''new'' band. Really nice and
clear. Most were just above 7.1, I would suggest the Europeans move up
even higher in the major contests and when they are looking for DX phone
qso's split.
It was much cleaner about 7.140 plus / minus the one broadcaster I heard.

I have been licensed since 1961, and have seen 40 meters basically
destroyed by the broadcast garbage, I hope I live long enough to FINALLY
see it opened up and be able to work Europe without going split on phone.

Dan/W4NTI



KØHB November 1st 04 10:54 PM



"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote


I too worked several of the G stations in the ''new'' band. Really
nice and
clear. Most were just above 7.1, I would suggest the Europeans move
up
even higher in the major contests and when they are looking for DX
phone
qso's split.
It was much cleaner about 7.140 plus / minus the one broadcaster I
heard.


In the last hours of CQWW on sunday OD5NJ was running a split on 40
stating his QSX QRG at 7307. Certainly he means 7207, right? But a
check at 7307 reveals a moderate sized pileup of K/N/W's calling
away..... ......and OD5NJ happily working them!

73, de Hans, K0HB








Alun November 2nd 04 03:56 AM

(Brian Kelly) wrote in
om:

PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message
...
==BRITISH AMATEURS GET ADDITIONAL 100 kHz ON 40 METERS OCTOBER 31

Starting at 0100 UTC October 31, the 40 meter band in the British
Isles will effectively double in size when radio amateurs there gain
access to 7100 to 7200 kHz. Ofcom, the UK telecommunications
regulatory authority, announced the Notice of Variation October 26.

The change, in the works since last year, is a result of actions taken
during World Radiocommunication Conference 2003, where conferees
agreed to move broadcasters out of 7100 to 7200 kHz in Regions 1 and 3
to make room for the Amateur Service. Coincidentally, the UK band
expansion, which also includes independently governed regions where
Ofcom regulates telecommunications, will occur just about halfway
through the CQ World Wide Contest (SSB) this weekend. Contesters take
note!

The Ofcom NOV makes the segment available on a secondary basis, and
amateur stations in the UK and affected regions may not cause
interference to stations operating in other radio services inside or
outside the UK.

The UK and Ofcom-administered regions join the Republic of
Ireland--which reportedly gained access October 20--as well as
Croatia, Norway and San Marino among Region 1 countries that have
authorized access to the additional spectrum on a secondary basis. The
WRC-03 change does not formally go into effect until 2009.-thanks to
Lawrence Woolf, GJ3RAX; RSGB

= = =
FROM THE ARRL LETTER 10/30/2004


. . . oughta take care of Alun's whining about not being able to
"transceive with his chums back home" . . . bleh . .

w3rv


Well, it gives us a window to work with, for a few countries.

William November 3rd 04 02:53 AM

"KØHB" wrote in message nk.net...
"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote


I too worked several of the G stations in the ''new'' band. Really
nice and
clear. Most were just above 7.1, I would suggest the Europeans move
up
even higher in the major contests and when they are looking for DX
phone
qso's split.
It was much cleaner about 7.140 plus / minus the one broadcaster I
heard.


In the last hours of CQWW on sunday OD5NJ was running a split on 40
stating his QSX QRG at 7307. Certainly he means 7207, right? But a
check at 7307 reveals a moderate sized pileup of K/N/W's calling
away..... ......and OD5NJ happily working them!

73, de Hans, K0HB


He must feel a kinship with K8MN.

Dave Heil November 3rd 04 04:03 AM

William wrote:

"KØHB" wrote in message nk.net...
"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote


I too worked several of the G stations in the ''new'' band. Really
nice and
clear. Most were just above 7.1, I would suggest the Europeans move
up
even higher in the major contests and when they are looking for DX
phone
qso's split.
It was much cleaner about 7.140 plus / minus the one broadcaster I
heard.


In the last hours of CQWW on sunday OD5NJ was running a split on 40
stating his QSX QRG at 7307. Certainly he means 7207, right? But a
check at 7307 reveals a moderate sized pileup of K/N/W's calling
away..... ......and OD5NJ happily working them!

73, de Hans, K0HB


He must feel a kinship with K8MN.


You've been going out of your way to impersonate Len Anderson of late.
I've never announced a listening frequency outside an amateur band in
the entire time I've been a radio amateur.

If you'd like to tackle this issue, let's do it. OD5NJ was breaking no
regs at all announcing that he'd listen on 7.307 MHz. In the scenario
Hans described, which stations broke their country's regulations? If
I'd been heard from Botswana on 40m, CQing North America and announcing
a listening frequency of 7.150 and you responded to me on that
frequency, would you bear personal responsibility for the operation of
your station, or would you try to pin your mistake on me?

Dave K8MN

KØHB November 3rd 04 04:09 PM



"William" wrote

He must feel a kinship with K8MN.


Are Daves' ancestors from Lebanon?

73, de Hans, K0HB




Dave Heil November 3rd 04 05:08 PM

"KØHB" wrote:

"William" wrote

He must feel a kinship with K8MN.


Are Daves' ancestors from Lebanon?

73, de Hans, K0HB


Per the latest issue of "National Geographic", I haven't had my DNA
tested to see if I am a descendant of Phoenicians.

"William" is, as usual, reaching.

Dave K8MN

William November 3rd 04 07:34 PM

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

"KØHB" wrote in message nk.net...
"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote


I too worked several of the G stations in the ''new'' band. Really
nice and
clear. Most were just above 7.1, I would suggest the Europeans move
up
even higher in the major contests and when they are looking for DX
phone
qso's split.
It was much cleaner about 7.140 plus / minus the one broadcaster I
heard.


In the last hours of CQWW on sunday OD5NJ was running a split on 40
stating his QSX QRG at 7307. Certainly he means 7207, right? But a
check at 7307 reveals a moderate sized pileup of K/N/W's calling
away..... ......and OD5NJ happily working them!

73, de Hans, K0HB


He must feel a kinship with K8MN.


You've been going out of your way to impersonate Len Anderson of late.


Have to. Len's been dragging his feet in here of late.

But it was my original thought.

bb

Len Over 21 November 3rd 04 08:14 PM

In article ,
(William) writes:

Dave Heil wrote in message
...
William wrote:

"KØHB" wrote in message

ink.net...
"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote


I too worked several of the G stations in the ''new'' band. Really
nice and
clear. Most were just above 7.1, I would suggest the Europeans

move
up
even higher in the major contests and when they are looking for DX
phone
qso's split.
It was much cleaner about 7.140 plus / minus the one broadcaster I
heard.


In the last hours of CQWW on sunday OD5NJ was running a split on 40
stating his QSX QRG at 7307. Certainly he means 7207, right? But a
check at 7307 reveals a moderate sized pileup of K/N/W's calling
away..... ......and OD5NJ happily working them!

73, de Hans, K0HB

He must feel a kinship with K8MN.


You've been going out of your way to impersonate Len Anderson of late.


Have to. Len's been dragging his feet in here of late.


Ahem...my feet are okay, don't drag. :-)

There's been a traditional Holiday in the USA followed by the
November 2nd Day of Mourning. :-)

No chance to venerate the Radio Gods. Been away, living in the
Real Life arena.

But it was my original thought.


"Dave" doesn't allow "original thoughts" in here. All must Believe
as "Dave" believes and That Is That. :-)

"Dave" doesn't like to be "told what to do." But, he has NO problem
with telling others What To Do...or What To Think.

Sunnuvagun!



Dan/W4NTI November 3rd 04 10:00 PM


"KØHB" wrote in message
k.net...


"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote


I too worked several of the G stations in the ''new'' band. Really
nice and
clear. Most were just above 7.1, I would suggest the Europeans move
up
even higher in the major contests and when they are looking for DX
phone
qso's split.
It was much cleaner about 7.140 plus / minus the one broadcaster I
heard.


In the last hours of CQWW on sunday OD5NJ was running a split on 40
stating his QSX QRG at 7307. Certainly he means 7207, right? But a
check at 7307 reveals a moderate sized pileup of K/N/W's calling
away..... ......and OD5NJ happily working them!

73, de Hans, K0HB

I have no trouble believing that Hans. One thing about it.....Ya just
cain't fix stupid.

Dan/W4NTI



Dan/W4NTI November 3rd 04 10:04 PM


"Len Over 21" wrote in message
...


There's been a traditional Holiday in the USA followed by the
November 2nd Day of Mourning. :-)






You want some cheese with that whine Lennie? How did I KNOW you were a knee
jerk, bleeding heart, liberal???? By the way you act.

Dan/W4NTI Bush Bush FOR MORE YEARS !!




Dan/W4NTI November 3rd 04 10:05 PM


"Alun" wrote in message
...
(Brian Kelly) wrote in
om:

PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message
...
==BRITISH AMATEURS GET ADDITIONAL 100 kHz ON 40 METERS OCTOBER 31

Starting at 0100 UTC October 31, the 40 meter band in the British
Isles will effectively double in size when radio amateurs there gain
access to 7100 to 7200 kHz. Ofcom, the UK telecommunications
regulatory authority, announced the Notice of Variation October 26.

The change, in the works since last year, is a result of actions taken
during World Radiocommunication Conference 2003, where conferees
agreed to move broadcasters out of 7100 to 7200 kHz in Regions 1 and 3
to make room for the Amateur Service. Coincidentally, the UK band
expansion, which also includes independently governed regions where
Ofcom regulates telecommunications, will occur just about halfway
through the CQ World Wide Contest (SSB) this weekend. Contesters take
note!

The Ofcom NOV makes the segment available on a secondary basis, and
amateur stations in the UK and affected regions may not cause
interference to stations operating in other radio services inside or
outside the UK.

The UK and Ofcom-administered regions join the Republic of
Ireland--which reportedly gained access October 20--as well as
Croatia, Norway and San Marino among Region 1 countries that have
authorized access to the additional spectrum on a secondary basis. The
WRC-03 change does not formally go into effect until 2009.-thanks to
Lawrence Woolf, GJ3RAX; RSGB

= = =
FROM THE ARRL LETTER 10/30/2004


. . . oughta take care of Alun's whining about not being able to
"transceive with his chums back home" . . . bleh . .

w3rv


Well, it gives us a window to work with, for a few countries.


Or you could do it simplex on 7010. Cw of course.

Dan/W4NTI



KØHB November 3rd 04 10:29 PM



"Alun" wrote


Well, it gives us a window to work with, for
a few countries.


For as long as I can remember there's been a "window" on 40 meters where
I've been able to work any country in EU. Starts at 7.000 and stretches
upward for 100KHz.

73, de Hans, K0HB




Len Over 21 November 4th 04 05:31 AM

In article et, "Dan/W4NTI"
w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com writes:

"Len Over 21" wrote in message
...

There's been a traditional Holiday in the USA followed by the
November 2nd Day of Mourning. :-)




You want some cheese with that whine Lennie?


What "whine," white man?

The nice Sauvignon in the bar cabinet? The dessert wine from
Iowa? We have cheese from Wisconsin and California here,
no need to get head cheese from the southeast U.S. through
a newsgroup...

My written remark was a wry bit of humor IN GENERAL about
the result of the November 2nd voting...for ALL offices and
issues on the various ballots. HUMOR seems lacking.

Tsk. You use that as an opening for more Trash Talk and
Hate Spam trolling in order to "justify" a personal insult.

Tsk, tsk. Ya cain't fix stupid, can ya? :-)

How did I KNOW you were a knee
jerk, bleeding heart, liberal???? By the way you act.


Just HOW is a "knee jerk, bleeding heart liberal" supposed to
act? :-)

I found more relationship to the Mexican Day of the Dead in
regards to the "mourning." Perhaps I'm way too subtle for the
likes of you?

Hint: Halloween is a sort of Anglo-Saxon, Americanized
version of Day of the Dead. [too deep for your understanding?]

Well, I'm rather used to being with the PCTAs who are not
"dead" yet...except in their thinking. [see: Dead-brained]

Dan/W4NTI Bush Bush FOR MORE YEARS !!


Okay, you get "four" (not "for") more years of Mikey Powell as
Commissioner in Charge of the FCC and his wonderful acts of
kindness to hobbyists ("hams" to you, saviors of the radio world
in your thinking) due to Access BPL. Enjoy the noise in your
receiver. :-)

Now that the General Election is (finally!) over, there MIGHT be
some action on the 18 petitions plus NPRM on Part 97, Title
47 C.F.R. Do not worry. Your Big Brother in Newington is
going to SYA for you by pointing to Powell and making rude
noises from Haynie and Sumner. Enjoy the response
that results.

Have you joined your National Guard yet? Don't they need all
those wonderful morsemen to "go behind the lines" to "send intel
back to the 'front'" as they did in WW2? [or was that WW1?]
Serve your country the PROPER way, not by imagining you are
some sort of "credit" because you indulge in morsemanship on
the ham bands.



William November 4th 04 11:11 AM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(William) writes:

Dave Heil wrote in message
...
William wrote:

"KØHB" wrote in message

nk.net...
"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote


I too worked several of the G stations in the ''new'' band. Really
nice and
clear. Most were just above 7.1, I would suggest the Europeans

move
up
even higher in the major contests and when they are looking for DX
phone
qso's split.
It was much cleaner about 7.140 plus / minus the one broadcaster I
heard.


In the last hours of CQWW on sunday OD5NJ was running a split on 40
stating his QSX QRG at 7307. Certainly he means 7207, right? But a
check at 7307 reveals a moderate sized pileup of K/N/W's calling
away..... ......and OD5NJ happily working them!

73, de Hans, K0HB

He must feel a kinship with K8MN.

You've been going out of your way to impersonate Len Anderson of late.


Have to. Len's been dragging his feet in here of late.


Ahem...my feet are okay, don't drag. :-)

There's been a traditional Holiday in the USA followed by the
November 2nd Day of Mourning. :-)

No chance to venerate the Radio Gods. Been away, living in the
Real Life arena.


I wondered if you were on holiday. Glad to see you posting again.

But it was my original thought.


"Dave" doesn't allow "original thoughts" in here. All must Believe
as "Dave" believes and That Is That. :-)

"Dave" doesn't like to be "told what to do." But, he has NO problem
with telling others What To Do...or What To Think.

Sunnuvagun!



"Listening 7307"

Hi, hi!

William November 4th 04 11:17 AM

"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message ink.net...
"Len Over 21" wrote in message
...


There's been a traditional Holiday in the USA followed by the
November 2nd Day of Mourning. :-)






You want some cheese with that whine Lennie? How did I KNOW you were a knee
jerk, bleeding heart, liberal???? By the way you act.

Dan/W4NTI Bush Bush FOR MORE YEARS !!


I imagine that Jim is rolling out the crocodile tears as well.

Wonder how I knew that?

Steve Robeson K4YZ November 4th 04 11:24 AM

Subject: Good News About 40 Meters
From: (William)
Date: 11/3/2004 1:34 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Dave Heil wrote in message
...
William wrote:

"KØHB" wrote in message

ink.net...
"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote


I too worked several of the G stations in the ''new'' band. Really
nice and
clear. Most were just above 7.1, I would suggest the Europeans

move
up
even higher in the major contests and when they are looking for DX
phone
qso's split.
It was much cleaner about 7.140 plus / minus the one broadcaster I
heard.


In the last hours of CQWW on sunday OD5NJ was running a split on 40
stating his QSX QRG at 7307. Certainly he means 7207, right? But a
check at 7307 reveals a moderate sized pileup of K/N/W's calling
away..... ......and OD5NJ happily working them!

73, de Hans, K0HB

He must feel a kinship with K8MN.


You've been going out of your way to impersonate Len Anderson of late.


Have to. Len's been dragging his feet in here of late.

But it was my original thought.


Well, it's a small bit of relief to see you acknowledge that you ARE
trying to impersonate a third person, Brain. Too bad it's a person who is ALSO
know for being an unrepentant pathological liar and antagonist.

Now...about that counsellor...???

Steve, K4YZ








N2EY November 4th 04 05:14 PM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article et, "Dan/W4NTI"
w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com writes:

"Len Over 21" wrote in message
...

There's been a traditional Holiday in the USA followed by the
November 2nd Day of Mourning. :-)




You want some cheese with that whine Lennie?


What "whine," white man?


"White man"?

My written remark was a wry bit of humor IN GENERAL about
the result of the November 2nd voting...for ALL offices and
issues on the various ballots.


It does? Where?

HUMOR seems lacking.


Yep. Your remarks lack humor, Len.

Tsk. You use that as an opening for more Trash Talk and
Hate Spam trolling in order to "justify" a personal insult.


You mean like when you tell someone to "shut the hell up, you little
USMC feldwebel"?

Tsk, tsk. Ya cain't fix stupid, can ya? :-)

How did I KNOW you were a knee
jerk, bleeding heart, liberal???? By the way you act.


Just HOW is a "knee jerk, bleeding heart liberal" supposed to
act? :-)


Tell us.

I found more relationship to the Mexican Day of the Dead in
regards to the "mourning."


So we should be in mourning because of the outcome of the elections?

Those whose candidates won aren't in mourning. Those whose candidates
lost are defeated, not dead.

Perhaps I'm way too subtle for the likes of you?


Nope. Your remarks just aren't humorous, Len. With or without smileys.

Dan/W4NTI November 4th 04 11:05 PM

Lenny has a new name. It is ''RUTMAN". As in being in one.

Dan/W4NTI

"Len Over 21" wrote in message
...
In article et,

"Dan/W4NTI"
w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com writes:

"Len Over 21" wrote in message
...

There's been a traditional Holiday in the USA followed by the
November 2nd Day of Mourning. :-)




You want some cheese with that whine Lennie?


What "whine," white man?

The nice Sauvignon in the bar cabinet? The dessert wine from
Iowa? We have cheese from Wisconsin and California here,
no need to get head cheese from the southeast U.S. through
a newsgroup...

My written remark was a wry bit of humor IN GENERAL about
the result of the November 2nd voting...for ALL offices and
issues on the various ballots. HUMOR seems lacking.

Tsk. You use that as an opening for more Trash Talk and
Hate Spam trolling in order to "justify" a personal insult.

Tsk, tsk. Ya cain't fix stupid, can ya? :-)

How did I KNOW you were a knee
jerk, bleeding heart, liberal???? By the way you act.


Just HOW is a "knee jerk, bleeding heart liberal" supposed to
act? :-)

I found more relationship to the Mexican Day of the Dead in
regards to the "mourning." Perhaps I'm way too subtle for the
likes of you?

Hint: Halloween is a sort of Anglo-Saxon, Americanized
version of Day of the Dead. [too deep for your understanding?]

Well, I'm rather used to being with the PCTAs who are not
"dead" yet...except in their thinking. [see: Dead-brained]

Dan/W4NTI Bush Bush FOR MORE YEARS !!


Okay, you get "four" (not "for") more years of Mikey Powell as
Commissioner in Charge of the FCC and his wonderful acts of
kindness to hobbyists ("hams" to you, saviors of the radio world
in your thinking) due to Access BPL. Enjoy the noise in your
receiver. :-)

Now that the General Election is (finally!) over, there MIGHT be
some action on the 18 petitions plus NPRM on Part 97, Title
47 C.F.R. Do not worry. Your Big Brother in Newington is
going to SYA for you by pointing to Powell and making rude
noises from Haynie and Sumner. Enjoy the response
that results.

Have you joined your National Guard yet? Don't they need all
those wonderful morsemen to "go behind the lines" to "send intel
back to the 'front'" as they did in WW2? [or was that WW1?]
Serve your country the PROPER way, not by imagining you are
some sort of "credit" because you indulge in morsemanship on
the ham bands.





William November 4th 04 11:55 PM

(Steve Robeson K4YZ) wrote in message ...
Subject: Good News About 40 Meters
From:
(William)
Date: 11/3/2004 1:34 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Dave Heil wrote in message
...
William wrote:

"KØHB" wrote in message

nk.net...
"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote


I too worked several of the G stations in the ''new'' band. Really
nice and
clear. Most were just above 7.1, I would suggest the Europeans

move
up
even higher in the major contests and when they are looking for DX
phone
qso's split.
It was much cleaner about 7.140 plus / minus the one broadcaster I
heard.


In the last hours of CQWW on sunday OD5NJ was running a split on 40
stating his QSX QRG at 7307. Certainly he means 7207, right? But a
check at 7307 reveals a moderate sized pileup of K/N/W's calling
away..... ......and OD5NJ happily working them!

73, de Hans, K0HB

He must feel a kinship with K8MN.

You've been going out of your way to impersonate Len Anderson of late.


Have to. Len's been dragging his feet in here of late.

But it was my original thought.


Well, it's a small bit of relief to see you acknowledge that you ARE
trying to impersonate a third person, Brain. Too bad it's a person who is ALSO
know for being an unrepentant pathological liar and antagonist.

Now...about that counsellor...???

Steve, K4YZ


It is very telling that you characterize Len as a third person when
you have so many of them running around inside you. Glass houses and
all that.

Len Over 21 November 5th 04 01:27 AM

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:

Dave Heil wrote in message
...
William wrote:

"KØHB" wrote in message

nk.net...
"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote


I too worked several of the G stations in the ''new'' band.

Really
nice and
clear. Most were just above 7.1, I would suggest the Europeans

move
up
even higher in the major contests and when they are looking for DX
phone
qso's split.
It was much cleaner about 7.140 plus / minus the one broadcaster I
heard.


In the last hours of CQWW on sunday OD5NJ was running a split on 40
stating his QSX QRG at 7307. Certainly he means 7207, right? But

a
check at 7307 reveals a moderate sized pileup of K/N/W's calling
away..... ......and OD5NJ happily working them!

73, de Hans, K0HB

He must feel a kinship with K8MN.

You've been going out of your way to impersonate Len Anderson of late.

Have to. Len's been dragging his feet in here of late.


Ahem...my feet are okay, don't drag. :-)

There's been a traditional Holiday in the USA followed by the
November 2nd Day of Mourning. :-)

No chance to venerate the Radio Gods. Been away, living in the
Real Life arena.


I wondered if you were on holiday. Glad to see you posting again.


Heh heh heh...few others are! :-)

I'd describe what I've been doing...except that is NOT allowed in
here!

What IS allowed in here is Ham Radio POLICY talk about old
museums, computer operating systems, and national politics at
the presidential level. [by Order of the resident PCTAs, of course]

But it was my original thought.


"Dave" doesn't allow "original thoughts" in here. All must Believe
as "Dave" believes and That Is That. :-)

"Dave" doesn't like to be "told what to do." But, he has NO problem
with telling others What To Do...or What To Think.

Sunnuvagun!



"Listening 7307"

Hi, hi!


Well, "Dave" is going to chime in with his usual 'nyah-nyah, you
ain't involved' solilloqy (or is that 'silly-que?') most any time now.
Then it will be time to ring his chimes for the false notes they are.

"Dave" doesn't want any dissent in here. Some other PCTAs
think the same...so they diss and diss those that present opposite-
to-PCTA opinions...and then cuss and cuss the people who present
those.

Hans should have asked if "Dave" relates to Lebanon, PA. :-)

Tsk. Anyone who celebrated Halloween would have some new
ghoul friends...



Len Over 21 November 5th 04 01:58 AM

In article ,
(William) writes:

Steve, K4YZ


It is very telling that you characterize Len as a third person when
you have so many of them running around inside you. Glass houses and
all that.


Tsk. As the old saying goes (and applies to "Steve") -

People who live in glass houses shouldn't stow thrones...




Steve Robeson K4YZ November 5th 04 05:25 AM

Subject: Good News About 40 Meters
From: "Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@getrid of this mindspring.com
Date: 11/4/2004 5:05 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id: et

Lenny has a new name. It is ''RUTMAN". As in being in one.

Dan/W4NTI

"Len Over 21" wrote in message
...
In article et,

"Dan/W4NTI"
w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com writes:

"Len Over 21" wrote in message
...

There's been a traditional Holiday in the USA followed by the
November 2nd Day of Mourning. :-)



You want some cheese with that whine Lennie?


What "whine," white man?

The nice Sauvignon in the bar cabinet? The dessert wine from
Iowa? We have cheese from Wisconsin and California here,
no need to get head cheese from the southeast U.S. through
a newsgroup...


I have no doubt in my USMC retired mind tht Lennie has COPIOUS quantities
of wine in his home...And no doubt carries a flask of "Geritol" with him when
he can't get to the cabinets in a timely manner.

My written remark was a wry bit of humor IN GENERAL about
the result of the November 2nd voting...for ALL offices and
issues on the various ballots. HUMOR seems lacking.


The lack of humor is yours, Lennie...

Your "humor" is like trying to speak/understand French from one of those
tourist handbooks...Sure, you can understand a few of the words, but with no
common cultural reference, the rest is "lost in translation".

Tsk. You use that as an opening for more Trash Talk and
Hate Spam trolling in order to "justify" a personal insult.


If it's in reference to you, how can it be an insult? You ARE your own
worst insult.

Tsk, tsk. Ya cain't fix stupid, can ya?


Obviously not...You've had a case of it for over 70 years now.

How did I KNOW you were a knee
jerk, bleeding heart, liberal???? By the way you act.


Just HOW is a "knee jerk, bleeding heart liberal" supposed to
act?



I found more relationship to the Mexican Day of the Dead in
regards to the "mourning." Perhaps I'm way too subtle for the
likes of you?


You're "too subtle" for yourself. Make assinine assertions you can't keep
then expect everyone else to ignore your lying.

Have you joined your National Guard yet? Don't they need all
those wonderful morsemen to "go behind the lines" to "send intel
back to the 'front'" as they did in WW2? [or was that WW1?]
Serve your country the PROPER way, not by imagining you are
some sort of "credit" because you indulge in morsemanship on
the ham bands.


More of that "subtle hunor, Lennie? Or was this more of that "I'm only
here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue" stuff???



"

Steve, K4YZ








Steve Robeson K4YZ November 5th 04 05:27 AM

Subject: Good News About 40 Meters
From: (William)
Date: 11/4/2004 5:55 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4YZ) wrote in message
...


Well, it's a small bit of relief to see you acknowledge that you ARE
trying to impersonate a third person, Brain. Too bad it's a person who is

ALSO
know for being an unrepentant pathological liar and antagonist.

Now...about that counsellor...???


It is very telling that you characterize Len as a third person when
you have so many of them running around inside you. Glass houses and
all that.


I didn't think you'd answer a direct question directly.

Brian P. Burke is still a liar and a coward.

Steve, K4YZ






William November 5th 04 03:58 PM

"KØHB" wrote in message thlink.net...
"William" wrote

He must feel a kinship with K8MN.


Are Daves' ancestors from Lebanon?

73, de Hans, K0HB


I'm not sure what Dave's pedigree is.

William November 5th 04 03:59 PM

(Steve Robeson K4YZ) wrote in message ...
Subject: Good News About 40 Meters
From:
(William)
Date: 11/4/2004 5:55 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4YZ) wrote in message
...


Well, it's a small bit of relief to see you acknowledge that you ARE
trying to impersonate a third person, Brain. Too bad it's a person who is

ALSO
know for being an unrepentant pathological liar and antagonist.

Now...about that counsellor...???


It is very telling that you characterize Len as a third person when
you have so many of them running around inside you. Glass houses and
all that.


I didn't think you'd answer a direct question directly.

Brian P. Burke is still a liar and a coward.

Steve, K4YZ


I's so sad that Steve Robeson has no purpose in life other than to
call other people names.

Steve Robeson K4YZ November 5th 04 04:20 PM

Subject: Good News About 40 Meters
From: (William)
Date: 11/5/2004 9:59 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4YZ) wrote in message
...


Brian P. Burke is still a liar and a coward.


I's so sad that Steve Robeson has no purpose in life other than to
call other people names.


Oh, I have PLENTY of purposes in life, Brain.

And they aren't "names" if they are true.

You are a liar. YOU have proven that.

You are a coward. YOU have proven that.

Putz is purely an opinion on my part, but one that seems to be well borne
out.

Steve, K4YZ

BTW, typo Lord..."It's" is just that......Have a beer...calm down (Lennie says
you're angry!)










William November 6th 04 04:57 AM

(Steve Robeson K4YZ) wrote in message ...
Subject: Good News About 40 Meters
From: "Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@getrid of this mindspring.com
Date: 11/4/2004 5:05 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id: et

Lenny has a new name. It is ''RUTMAN". As in being in one.

Dan/W4NTI

"Len Over 21" wrote in message
...
In article et,

"Dan/W4NTI"
w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com writes:

"Len Over 21" wrote in message
...

There's been a traditional Holiday in the USA followed by the
November 2nd Day of Mourning. :-)




You want some cheese with that whine Lennie?

What "whine," white man?

The nice Sauvignon in the bar cabinet? The dessert wine from
Iowa? We have cheese from Wisconsin and California here,
no need to get head cheese from the southeast U.S. through
a newsgroup...


I have no doubt in my USMC retired mind


medically unfit

tht Lennie has COPIOUS quantities
of wine in his home...And no doubt carries a flask of "Geritol" with him when
he can't get to the cabinets in a timely manner.


And maybe Steve's CAP flight suit appears puffy because of the adult underwear.

My written remark was a wry bit of humor IN GENERAL about
the result of the November 2nd voting...for ALL offices and
issues on the various ballots. HUMOR seems lacking.


The lack of humor is yours, Lennie...

Your "humor" is like trying to speak/understand French from one of those
tourist handbooks...


in Indochina.

Sure, you can understand a few of the words, but with no
common cultural reference, the rest is "lost in translation".


Three bowls of rice is a common reference point.

Tsk. You use that as an opening for more Trash Talk and
Hate Spam trolling in order to "justify" a personal insult.


If it's in reference to you, how can it be an insult? You ARE your own
worst insult.


You are more than willing to exceed the weight limit of insults.

Tsk, tsk. Ya cain't fix stupid, can ya?


Obviously not...You've had a case of it for over 70 years now.


Steve is catching up.

How did I KNOW you were a knee
jerk, bleeding heart, liberal???? By the way you act.

Just HOW is a "knee jerk, bleeding heart liberal" supposed to
act?



I found more relationship to the Mexican Day of the Dead in
regards to the "mourning." Perhaps I'm way too subtle for the
likes of you?


You're "too subtle" for yourself. Make assinine assertions you can't keep
then expect everyone else to ignore your lying.


"Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio!"

Hi, hi!

Have you joined your National Guard yet? Don't they need all
those wonderful morsemen to "go behind the lines" to "send intel
back to the 'front'" as they did in WW2? [or was that WW1?]
Serve your country the PROPER way, not by imagining you are
some sort of "credit" because you indulge in morsemanship on
the ham bands.


More of that "subtle hunor, Lennie? Or was this more of that "I'm only
here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue" stuff???


Oh, my. Bricks through windows and slashed tires subtle.



"


Cute, but I don't think your ISP will allow it.

Steve Robeson K4YZ November 6th 04 10:06 AM

Subject: Good News About 40 Meters
From: (William)
Date: 11/5/2004 10:57 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4YZ) wrote in message
...


"


Cute, but I don't think your ISP will allow it


Hmmmm....Probably not.

Maybe Juno? They allow chronic liars and cowards.

Steve, K4YZ






William November 7th 04 01:20 AM

(Steve Robeson K4YZ) wrote in message ...
Subject: Good News About 40 Meters
From:
(William)
Date: 11/5/2004 10:57 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4YZ) wrote in message
...


"


Cute, but I don't think your ISP will allow it


Hmmmm....Probably not.

Maybe Juno? They allow chronic liars and cowards.

Steve, K4YZ


Then you may set up a no-cost account using
" as your new e-mail address.

Best of Luck

William November 7th 04 01:28 AM

(Steve Robeson K4YZ) wrote in message ...
Subject: Good News About 40 Meters
From:
(William)
Date: 11/5/2004 9:59 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4YZ) wrote in message
...


Brian P. Burke is still a liar and a coward.


I's so sad that Steve Robeson has no purpose in life other than to
call other people names.


Oh, I have PLENTY of purposes in life, Brain.


It is not readily apparent. I'm listening if you want to go into an
explanation (the whole group leans a little closer and puts a hand to
their ear).

And they aren't "names" if they are true.


Sure they are.

You are a liar. YOU have proven that.


Not a liar.

You are a coward. YOU have proven that.


Not a coward.

Putz is purely an opinion on my part, but one that seems to be well borne
out.


Still borne out.

Steve, K4YZ

BTW, typo Lord..."It's" is just that......Have a beer...calm down (Lennie says
you're angry!)


No anger. I was working on my ebonics.

William November 7th 04 11:30 PM

(Steve Robeson K4YZ) wrote in message ...
Subject: Good News About 40 Meters
From:
(William)
Date: 11/5/2004 10:57 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4YZ) wrote in message
...


"


Cute, but I don't think your ISP will allow it


Hmmmm....Probably not.

Maybe Juno? They allow chronic liars and cowards.

Steve, K4YZ


Well there you go. Apply for
" and you're back in
business.

Best of Luck, you liar and coward.

William November 7th 04 11:51 PM

(Steve Robeson K4YZ) wrote in message ...
Subject: Good News About 40 Meters
From:
(William)
Date: 11/5/2004 9:59 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4YZ) wrote in message
...


Brian P. Burke is still a liar and a coward.


I's so sad that Steve Robeson has no purpose in life other than to
call other people names.


Oh, I have PLENTY of purposes in life, Brain.


Then you need to swear out a statement affirming such and have it
notarized. Paste it on your forehead and slap it on your trailer.

And they aren't "names" if they are true.


Sure they are. What kind of moron would think otherwise?

You are a liar. YOU have proven that.


Nope. I speak the truth. You lie, and you are a pathological name
caller, usually focussing on the male genitalia. See below.

You are a coward. YOU have proven that.


I am no coward. In your eastern Tennesee redneck "I'm gonna knock yer
dick in the dirt" sort of way, I think that you are working up the
courage to challenge me to a duel. Is that your intent?

Putz is purely an opinion on my part, but one that seems to be well borne
out.


You wouldn't recognize "well borne out" even it it were your own
father.

Steve, K4YZ

BTW, typo Lord..."It's" is just that......Have a beer...calm down (Lennie says
you're angry!)


I was practicing ebonics, Quitedipschit. The former surgeon general
had no problem with it, why should you?

Your move.

Len Over 21 November 8th 04 04:24 AM

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Steve Robeson K4YZ) wrote in message
...
Subject: Good News About 40 Meters
From:
(William)
Date: 11/5/2004 9:59 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4YZ) wrote in message
...


Brian P. Burke is still a liar and a coward.


I's so sad that Steve Robeson has no purpose in life other than to
call other people names.


Oh, I have PLENTY of purposes in life, Brain.


Then you need to swear out a statement affirming such and have it
notarized. Paste it on your forehead and slap it on your trailer.


I would suggest a tatoo...but that might be considered as
"defacing government property..." :-)

And they aren't "names" if they are true.


Sure they are. What kind of moron would think otherwise?


His kind of moron? :-)

You are a liar. YOU have proven that.


Nope. I speak the truth. You lie, and you are a pathological name
caller, usually focussing on the male genitalia. See below.


Now now, "Steve" has been federally tested to a high rate of
morsemanship. In achieving an amateur license his is now
a "qualified name-caller" and may bypass normal sociological
considerations.

Bypass? Tsk. Someone got the bypass wrong when they
had him in stitches.

You are a coward. YOU have proven that.


I am no coward. In your eastern Tennesee redneck "I'm gonna knock yer
dick in the dirt" sort of way, I think that you are working up the
courage to challenge me to a duel. Is that your intent?


Sounds like 'Steve' wants to meet you at Dayton to FIGHT you.

That must be the way the "new" U.S. ham radio is...a bunch of
angry radio users wanting to FIGHT anyone who doesn't agree
with them. Not for me. Must be why I haven't gotten an amateur
license after so long as a professional in radio-electronics.

Putz is purely an opinion on my part, but one that seems to be well

borne
out.


You wouldn't recognize "well borne out" even it it were your own
father.


'Steve' would be totally ignorant of the world around him if he were
on Fairfax in Los Angeles or Maxwell Street in Chicago. Lots of
Yiddish heard there...sometimes pejoratives are shouted. :-)

'Steve' da goyim must be a closet Yiddisher. :-)

Steve, K4YZ

BTW, typo Lord..."It's" is just that......Have a beer...calm down (Lennie
says you're angry!)


I was practicing ebonics, Quitedipschit. The former surgeon general
had no problem with it, why should you?


Tsk. 'Steve' LIED again. I've never been angry at you, Brian. :-)

More tsk. Poor very-EX-marine couldn't celebrate the birthday.
He is no longer INVOLVED there. Must have made him angrier
than two people. Perhaps all his personalities are angry?

Your move.


Hopefully to another venue...but I don't expect it. :-)

Pity that this "Quitefine" condones such blather from 'Steve.' Haven't
seen a thing from Jimmie-as-another-newsgroupie under the
"Quitefine" label. Or maybe he's just out of damp hankies...?



Dave Heil November 8th 04 04:28 PM

William wrote:

"KØHB" wrote in message thlink.net...
"William" wrote

He must feel a kinship with K8MN.


Are Daves' ancestors from Lebanon?

73, de Hans, K0HB


I'm not sure what Dave's pedigree is.


....directly back through all the Plantagenets to William the Conqueror.
There are probably several hundred people in this county who can claim
the same line. There are likely more in parts of Maryland.

Dave K8MN


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