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Hello, gang

Now we have had questions as to the future of amateur radio and BPL - and
have seen that the FCC now considers amateur radio simply a hobby and not
worthy of full protection, I'm seeing some upcoming problems.

How will we calculate resonant frequency? Since Wisconsin is now going to
teach creationism, I assume that Tennessee will revive their old law which
states that PI is equal to 3 (integer). With Bush firmly in command, I
suspect that PI will be made (by law) equal to three. Also, I suspect that
the metric system will be scrapped. We will deal in feet, with the foot
officially set to the length of Bush's foot.

Anyone have any new formulas? Or won't that matter too much? What will the
radian be defined as?

Inquiring minds and such .... :))


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

JAMES HAMPTON wrote:
Hello, gang

Now we have had questions as to the future of amateur radio and BPL - and
have seen that the FCC now considers amateur radio simply a hobby and not
worthy of full protection, I'm seeing some upcoming problems.

How will we calculate resonant frequency? Since Wisconsin is now going to
teach creationism, I assume that Tennessee will revive their old law which
states that PI is equal to 3 (integer). With Bush firmly in command, I
suspect that PI will be made (by law) equal to three.

Sez so in the bible, so it must be!

2 Chronicles|4:2 Also he made a molten sea of ten cubits from brim to
brim, round in compass, and five cubits the height thereof; and a line
of thirty cubits did compass it round about.


But it wasn't Tennessee, it was Indiana. And it wasn't 3, it was 3.2, or
3.3, or 4. The fellow proposing the law (T.I. Record of Posen County, in
1897) was confused by the idea of pi being a non rational number.
REally really confused!

But aside from being in error on that matter, you have a good point. We
are entering an age of anti-science.



Also, I suspect that
the metric system will be scrapped. We will deal in feet, with the foot
officially set to the length of Bush's foot.

Wrong, Jim. We will deal in cubits.

Anyone have any new formulas? Or won't that matter too much? What will the
radian be defined as?

Does not matter

Inquiring minds and such .... :))

Inquiring minds need not apply!

- Mike KB3EIA -

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
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JAMES HAMPTON wrote:
Hello, gang

Now we have had questions as to the future of amateur radio and BPL -
and
have seen that the FCC now considers amateur radio simply a hobby and
not
worthy of full protection, I'm seeing some upcoming problems.

How will we calculate resonant frequency? Since Wisconsin is now going
to
teach creationism, I assume that Tennessee will revive their old law
which
states that PI is equal to 3 (integer). With Bush firmly in command, I
suspect that PI will be made (by law) equal to three.

Sez so in the bible, so it must be!

2 Chronicles|4:2 Also he made a molten sea of ten cubits from brim to
brim, round in compass, and five cubits the height thereof; and a line
of thirty cubits did compass it round about.


But it wasn't Tennessee, it was Indiana. And it wasn't 3, it was 3.2, or
3.3, or 4. The fellow proposing the law (T.I. Record of Posen County, in
1897) was confused by the idea of pi being a non rational number.
REally really confused!

But aside from being in error on that matter, you have a good point. We
are entering an age of anti-science.



Also, I suspect that
the metric system will be scrapped. We will deal in feet, with the foot
officially set to the length of Bush's foot.

Wrong, Jim. We will deal in cubits.

Anyone have any new formulas? Or won't that matter too much? What will
the
radian be defined as?

Does not matter

Inquiring minds and such .... :))

Inquiring minds need not apply!

- Mike KB3EIA -

Hello, Mike

Thanks for straightening me out on that one.

Must be I was thinking of the Scope's (not sure of the name) monkey trial.

Well, I messed up on my numbers a bit (not to mention the state in
question), but you did get my drift.

I like your last line. You are correct, we are going back to the 1950s (or
1850s, take your pick). I guess we can just hope that China can make our
junk for us and India can design it. Then we won't have to worry what PI is
anyway ;)

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

But it wasn't Tennessee, it was Indiana. And it wasn't 3, it was 3.2, or
3.3, or 4. The fellow proposing the law (T.I. Record of Posen County, in
1897) was confused by the idea of pi being a non rational number.
REally really confused!

I had an arithemetic teacher in grammar school who thought
that PI = 22/7. Well, he was a bit less than 1% off...

"Robert Casey" wrote in message
nk.net...

But it wasn't Tennessee, it was Indiana. And it wasn't 3, it was 3.2, or
3.3, or 4. The fellow proposing the law (T.I. Record of Posen County, in
1897) was confused by the idea of pi being a non rational number.
REally really confused!

I had an arithemetic teacher in grammar school who thought
that PI = 22/7. Well, he was a bit less than 1% off...


Hi, Bob

Well 22/7 was a simple, fairly close approximation. Obviously, not many
folks memorize a lot of decimal places (which still wouldn't be exact, of
course).

I had an electronics teacher (he was junior man on the totem pole; he was a
drafting teacher actually) who insisted that there was a complex formula to
figure out resonant frequency, but this equation was close enough: frequency
equals capacitance times inductance.

LOL - true story and I was threatened when I disagreed. That was an early
lesson (at age 14) as to what the real world would be like. Now that we
have Bush, I just hope the rest of the world can do our designing for us ;)


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 09:49:07 -0500, JAMES HAMPTON wrote:

Now that we have Bush, I just hope the rest of the world can do our
designing for us ;)

Beware of electrical engineers trained in certain Eastern European
countries who believe that both electrical codes and Ohm's Law are
merely suggestions.....

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

In article , "JAMES HAMPTON"
writes:

Hello, gang

Now we have had questions as to the future of amateur radio and BPL - and
have seen that the FCC now considers amateur radio simply a hobby and not
worthy of full protection, I'm seeing some upcoming problems.

How will we calculate resonant frequency? Since Wisconsin is now going to
teach creationism, I assume that Tennessee will revive their old law which
states that PI is equal to 3 (integer). With Bush firmly in command, I
suspect that PI will be made (by law) equal to three. Also, I suspect that
the metric system will be scrapped. We will deal in feet, with the foot
officially set to the length of Bush's foot.

Anyone have any new formulas? Or won't that matter too much? What will the
radian be defined as?

Inquiring minds and such .... :))

Pi R-squared.

No, no! Pi are round...cornbread are square! :-)

Hi, Bob

Well 22/7 was a simple, fairly close approximation. Obviously, not many
folks memorize a lot of decimal places (which still wouldn't be exact, of
course).

If he said that 22/7 was just an approximation, then it would
have been sensable. But he said that PI was exactly 22/7.

"Robert Casey" wrote in message
ink.net...



Hi, Bob

Well 22/7 was a simple, fairly close approximation. Obviously, not many
folks memorize a lot of decimal places (which still wouldn't be exact,
of
course).

If he said that 22/7 was just an approximation, then it would
have been sensable. But he said that PI was exactly 22/7.

Not good. Not good at all. That person would fit right into Bush's
administration. As long as his answer agrees with Bush, that is ;)


Best regards from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

"Len Over 21" wrote in message
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In article , "JAMES HAMPTON"
writes:

Hello, gang

Now we have had questions as to the future of amateur radio and BPL - and
have seen that the FCC now considers amateur radio simply a hobby and not
worthy of full protection, I'm seeing some upcoming problems.

How will we calculate resonant frequency? Since Wisconsin is now going
to
teach creationism, I assume that Tennessee will revive their old law
which
states that PI is equal to 3 (integer). With Bush firmly in command, I
suspect that PI will be made (by law) equal to three. Also, I suspect
that
the metric system will be scrapped. We will deal in feet, with the foot
officially set to the length of Bush's foot.

Anyone have any new formulas? Or won't that matter too much? What will
the
radian be defined as?

Inquiring minds and such .... :))

Pi R-squared.

No, no! Pi are round...cornbread are square! :-)




Thanks, Len

The whole thing had me so upset (I can't believe what I'm seeing on
television) that I needed a break or a laugh. You gave me both!

Thanks & 73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

"JAMES HAMPTON" wrote in message ...
Hello, gang

Now we have had questions as to the future of amateur radio and BPL - and
have seen that the FCC now considers amateur radio simply a hobby and not
worthy of full protection, I'm seeing some upcoming problems.

How will we calculate resonant frequency? Since Wisconsin is now going to
teach creationism, I assume that Tennessee will revive their old law which
states that PI is equal to 3 (integer). With Bush firmly in command, I
suspect that PI will be made (by law) equal to three. Also, I suspect that
the metric system will be scrapped. We will deal in feet, with the foot
officially set to the length of Bush's foot.

Anyone have any new formulas? Or won't that matter too much? What will the
radian be defined as?

Inquiring minds and such .... :))

http://www.ucomics.com/tonyauth/

One thing I have always found interesting is how some folks will not
bother to even read the very Book they try to impose on others.

For example, consider the whole "creationism" concept. It comes not
from the creation story itself, but rather from trying to reconcile a
long geneaology that goes from Christ back to Adam. Some bishop, about
120 years ago, figured out from that genealogy that the earth was
created in 4004 BC. October 22, IIRC. If you take the geneaology
literally, the earth cannot be billions of years old, and so a whole
theory of pseudoscience had to be made up to try to make a literal
interpretation of the Book appear "scientific".

But if you actually *read* the book of Genesis, you see that there are
two creation stories that conflict with each other. They cannot both
be literally true, because their timelines are different.

Or consider the whole same-gender civil-union thing. A lot of folks
oppose them because of some Old Testament quotes involving
abominations and such. But these same folks accept divorce, despite
clear New Testament prohibitions against it.

AFAIC, it's fine if people want to believe the earth is about 6000
years old - just don't try to pass such things off as "science".

What next - will books and films like "Inherit The Wind" (Scopes
"Monkey Trial" be banned?

Remember - Science *lost* that trial. Less than 80 years ago.

73 de Jim, N2EY

(N2EY) wrote in message om...
"JAMES HAMPTON" wrote in message ...
Hello, gang

Now we have had questions as to the future of amateur radio and BPL - and
have seen that the FCC now considers amateur radio simply a hobby and not
worthy of full protection, I'm seeing some upcoming problems.

How will we calculate resonant frequency? Since Wisconsin is now going to
teach creationism, I assume that Tennessee will revive their old law which
states that PI is equal to 3 (integer). With Bush firmly in command, I
suspect that PI will be made (by law) equal to three. Also, I suspect that
the metric system will be scrapped. We will deal in feet, with the foot
officially set to the length of Bush's foot.

Anyone have any new formulas? Or won't that matter too much? What will the
radian be defined as?

Inquiring minds and such .... :))

http://www.ucomics.com/tonyauth/

One thing I have always found interesting is how some folks will not
bother to even read the very Book they try to impose on others.

For example, consider the whole "creationism" concept. It comes not
from the creation story itself, but rather from trying to reconcile a
long geneaology that goes from Christ back to Adam. Some bishop, about
120 years ago, figured out from that genealogy that the earth was
created in 4004 BC. October 22, IIRC. If you take the geneaology
literally, the earth cannot be billions of years old, and so a whole
theory of pseudoscience had to be made up to try to make a literal
interpretation of the Book appear "scientific".

But if you actually *read* the book of Genesis, you see that there are
two creation stories that conflict with each other. They cannot both
be literally true, because their timelines are different.

Or consider the whole same-gender civil-union thing. A lot of folks
oppose them because of some Old Testament quotes involving
abominations and such. But these same folks accept divorce, despite
clear New Testament prohibitions against it.

AFAIC, it's fine if people want to believe the earth is about 6000
years old - just don't try to pass such things off as "science".

What next - will books and films like "Inherit The Wind" (Scopes
"Monkey Trial" be banned?

Remember - Science *lost* that trial. Less than 80 years ago.

73 de Jim, N2EY

I've tried to influence other people's "quasi-religious belief system"
WRT the Amateur Service Morse Code exams. It just can't be done. The
best thing that can be done is to offer a different point of view for
new (and hopefully younger) people forming their own opinions. The
actuarial tables will take care of the rest of us.

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(William) writes:

73 de Jim, N2EY

I've tried to influence other people's "quasi-religious belief system"
WRT the Amateur Service Morse Code exams. It just can't be done.

The brainwashing was way too sanitary, practically aeseptic.

Better than an autoclave session done many times.

The
best thing that can be done is to offer a different point of view for
new (and hopefully younger) people forming their own opinions.

Not allowed by the Belief System.

All newcomers (no exceptions) MUST do it like the olde-tymers
did it. Morsemanship at the top of the list. Second, knowing
all the statements of the ARRL by heart, especially the one where
"ham radio would not have survived without the efforts of the ARRL."

Advancing the State of the Art is always around 30 years behind
the rest of the radio-electronics world, excused by "countless"
rationalizations, typically cheapness.

The actuarial tables will take care of the rest of us.

PCTA extras never die. Neither do they fade away. :-)

Actuarial tables don't apply to them.