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K0HB Supports Terrorist Use Of GPS Net Against America
From another thread, Hans made the most assinine statement:
QUOTE K=D8HB Dec 15, 8:23 pm hide options Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy From: "K=D8HB" - Find messages by this author Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 04:23:21 GMT Local: Wed, Dec 15 2004 8:23 pm Subject: Problem for boaters and APRS? Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse A friend sent me the link below. At first I thought it had to be an April Fool joke, but apparently The Shrub really IS that stupid! http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/nati...atellites.html UNQUOTE What the article said, in part: QUOTE: Bush Prepares for Possible GPS Shutdown By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Published: December 15, 2004 Filed at 10:17 p.m. ET WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush has ordered plans for temporarily disabling the U.S. network of global positioning satellites during a national crisis to prevent terrorists from using the navigational technology, the White House said Wednesday. Any shutdown of the network inside the United States would come under only the most remarkable circumstances, said a Bush administration official who spoke to a small group of reporters at the White House on condition of anonymity. UNQUOTE "The Shrub"...?!?! "April Fool's Joke"...?!?! Hans, you're an idiot or an Al-Queda supporter. How do I know this? Because ONLY an idiot or an Al-Queda supporter could suggest that making it difficult for terrorists to use our own systems against us is an "April Fool's Joke". BTW...I correct my earlier statement about Slick Willy making the GPS net available in "93 or 94"...that was when he initially suggested it. It became effective in 2000. It was discussed in Flying magazine as early and the late 80's. None-the-less, the idea of being able to inhibit or completely disable the system is STILL not new, and I for one hope they DO keep the reigns on it! It was an error to let it loose in the first place. Steve, K4YZ |
N2EY wrote: In article . com, "K4YZ" writes: "The Shrub"...?!?! Yes. If it's OK to call President Clinton "Slick Willy", then it's also OK to call President Bush "the shrub". "April Fool's Joke"...?!?! Hans, you're an idiot or an Al-Queda supporter. I don't think he's either. How do I know this? Because ONLY an idiot or an Al-Queda supporter could suggest that making it difficult for terrorists to use our own systems against us is an "April Fool's Joke". Why are we so dependent on such systems in the first place? BTW...I correct my earlier statement about Slick Willy making the GPS net available in "93 or 94"...that was when he initially suggested it. It became effective in 2000. It was discussed in Flying magazine as early and the late 80's. None-the-less, the idea of being able to inhibit or completely disable the system is STILL not new, and I for one hope they DO keep the reigns on it! It was an error to let it loose in the first place. You mean "reins"? IIRC, the inhibition was turned off before Gulf War 1 and simply left turned off. Had to do with inhibiting high-accuracy commercial applications like surveying and precison aircarft navigation AND the competition. The Russians have their own GPS system and the Euros are developing yet another one. Down the road the most accurate of the three systems is where the traffic will go and there's big bucks at stake in that. w3rv 73 de Jim, N2EY |
"K4YZ" wrote It was an error to let it loose in the first place. You're an idiot, and The Shrub is an idiot. Has nothing to do with terrorists. PLONK Welcome to my permanent bit bucket. |
wrote Had to do with inhibiting high-accuracy commercial applications like surveying and precison aircarft navigation AND the competition. There are industries, including things as basic as grain farming which depend on the current accuracy of the GPS system. Some sheet-head with a bomb doesn't need GPS to find a tall building to target, but many segments of our economy depend on it. Taking down GPS for that reason is equivalent to taking down the world-wide-web because Tim McVeigh used it to look up the address of the Federal Building in OKC. 73, de Hans, K0HB |
"KØHB" ) writes: wrote Had to do with inhibiting high-accuracy commercial applications like surveying and precison aircarft navigation AND the competition. There are industries, including things as basic as grain farming which depend on the current accuracy of the GPS system. Some sheet-head with a bomb doesn't need GPS to find a tall building to target, but many segments of our economy depend on it. Taking down GPS for that reason is equivalent to taking down the world-wide-web because Tim McVeigh used it to look up the address of the Federal Building in OKC. 73, de Hans, K0HB But it is sort of interesting, since it's akin to shutting down radio stations so they can't be beacons in times of war, and countries taking down signs so invaders would have a bit more difficulty and lights being kept low during WWII. In other words, there is precedence. On the other hand, you're right, it would affect quite a bit at this point. And unless there is all out war, one has to balance the danger of something against the inconvenience. Michael VE2BVW |
Subject: K4YZ Supports Idiocy
From: "KØHB" Date: 12/16/2004 8:48 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: et "K4YZ" wrote It was an error to let it loose in the first place. You're an idiot, and The Shrub is an idiot. Has nothing to do with terrorists. PLONK Welcome to my permanent bit bucket Oh, break my heart, Oh Two Faced One. You're still an idiot and you're still an Al-Queda supporter. Steve, K4YZ |
Subject: K0HB Supports Terrorist Use Of GPS Net Against America
From: PAMNO (N2EY) Date: 12/16/2004 4:26 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article . com, "K4YZ" writes: "The Shrub"...?!?! Yes. Hardly. This nation has bandied-about it's "Don't Tread On Me" attitude for since the fifties yet has gotten into the practice of tucking tail and running when it get's slapped around a little bit. We finally have a President who slapped back. Now everyone is upset that he actaully DID what he said he would do. If it's OK to call President Clinton "Slick Willy", then it's also OK to call President Bush "the shrub". "April Fool's Joke"...?!?! Hans, you're an idiot or an Al-Queda supporter. I don't think he's either. I do. His gross disrespect for a sitting President and obvious disdain for a policy that is intended to deny potential adversaries the opportunity to use our own systems against us speaks for itself. Hans is an idiot and an Al-Queda supporter. His allegedly well-educated mind could have more effectively expressed an opposing view of the government's policies without being disrespectful or insulting. He didn't. He went right to the deminutives. Funny how he accuses me of that............... How do I know this? Because ONLY an idiot or an Al-Queda supporter could suggest that making it difficult for terrorists to use our own systems against us is an "April Fool's Joke". Why are we so dependent on such systems in the first place? For the same reason we are so "dependent" on TV, radio, electric lights and penicillin. It makes our lives easier. Of course in the mean time we LOSE basic skills that, in the absence of those assets, will be necessary. BTW...I correct my earlier statement about Slick Willy making the GPS net available in "93 or 94"...that was when he initially suggested it. It became effective in 2000. It was discussed in Flying magazine as early and the late 80's. None-the-less, the idea of being able to inhibit or completely disable the system is STILL not new, and I for one hope they DO keep the reigns on it! It was an error to let it loose in the first place. You mean "reins"? Did you understand what I wrote, Jim? Are you now going to follow in Brain's and Lennie's footsteps with whittling a post down to spelling? IIRC, the inhibition was turned off before Gulf War 1 and simply left turned off. Perhaps. Still does not negate the fact that it was a mistake to do so. 73 Steve, K4YZ |
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"N2EY" wrote If it's OK to call President Clinton "Slick Willy", then it's also OK to call President Bush "the shrub". That's obvious to you and me, but Steve is the master of "dual standards" (I think his term when others follow his example is "two faced"). 73, de Hans, K0HB |
A strange thing in this whole new range war is something that is a
little disturbing. That is the propensity for people who think that while it is an okay thing to refer to the previous president as "Slick Willie". And yet it is some sort of crime to refer to the present one as "shrub". While I do not call either one by those pejorative, it is hard to not equate such an attitude as hypocrisy. There seems to be an attitude brewing that any disagreement equals treason. Hey Pubs!! Now is the time to revive the Sedition Acts. This is your chance to quash those opposing viewpoints! ;^) |
I guess what was once a priv is now our "rights!"
Protecting America is not stupid nor an April Fools joke. Hans and Kell may want the terrs to use guidance sytems to harm America, but I'm with Bush on this. And though "selective availability" was initially turned off for the Gulf War, it remained off and in 2000, Slick Willy commanded it to stay off. They can encrypt it also. Meanwhile, the Euro is building a compatible fleet of satellites that the terrs can use in the absence of the USAF system. bb |
"bb" wrote Hans and Kell may want the terrs to use guidance sytems to harm America.... Shrub and Robeson, please meet Brian. You guys could start an act and get in the movies. Oops, sorry, I just checked and found that Larry, Curly, and Moe already did that gig. dit dit de Hans, K0HB |
Subject: K0HB Supports Terrorist Use Of GPS Net Against America
From: "KØHB" Date: 12/16/2004 11:58 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: t "N2EY" wrote If it's OK to call President Clinton "Slick Willy", then it's also OK to call President Bush "the shrub". That's obvious to you and me, but Steve is the master of "dual standards" (I think his term when others follow his example is "two faced"). Bill Clinton is NOT a "sitting president". He is NOT the present "Commander in Chief". And had Bill Clinton acted aggessively enough in his eight years in office, we may have never had "9/11". THAT is fact. Steve, K4YZ |
Subject: K4YZ Supports Idiocy
From: Mike Coslo Date: 12/16/2004 12:02 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: A strange thing in this whole new range war is something that is a little disturbing. That is the propensity for people who think that while it is an okay thing to refer to the previous president as "Slick Willie". And yet it is some sort of crime to refer to the present one as "shrub". Bill Clinton is/was a documented liar. Whatever good things he DID do will be forever tainted by semen stains on dresses and videotape of a then-sitting president blatantly lying during a sworn deposition. Bill Clinton had EIGHT years in which to take action to prevent an act the likes of "9/11", yet he did not. He had more than adequate evidence that they (Al-Queda) could strike with effective force on the FIRST WTC attack. While I do not call either one by those pejorative, it is hard to not equate such an attitude as hypocrisy. There seems to be an attitude brewing that any disagreement equals treason. Not treason, Mike. A matter of effective expression. Hans started this off with a snide refrence to a sitting President and further made ludicrous suggestions that would, on the face of it, demonstrate that he has pro Al-Queda sympathies. It was idiotic. Hey Pubs!! Now is the time to revive the Sedition Acts. This is your chance to quash those opposing viewpoints! In our reasonable defense, there can be no gray area, Mike. We either take steps (or have plans in place) to defend and protect ourselves, or we don't. Hans doesn't favor our reasonable defense. He expressed THAT rather clearly. 73 Steve, K4YZ |
Subject: K0HB Supports Terrorist Use Of GPS Net Against America
From: "KØHB" Date: 12/16/2004 2:00 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: et "bb" wrote Hans and Kell may want the terrs to use guidance sytems to harm America.... Shrub and Robeson, please meet Brian. You guys could start an act and get in the movies. Oops, sorry, I just checked and found that Larry, Curly, and Moe already did that gig. Hans Brakob supports the use of American resources by terrorists against America. Hans Brakob supports terrorism. Steve, K4YZ |
Subject: K0HB Supports Terrorist Use Of GPS Net Against America
From: "bb" Date: 12/16/2004 1:45 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: .com Meanwhile, the Euro is building a compatible fleet of satellites that the terrs can use in the absence of the USAF system. However the USAF has already demonstrated the ability to suppress satellites from F-15's. One "high five" for "The Boys In Blue" 73 Steve, K4YZ |
N2EY said:
If it's OK to call President Clinton "Slick Willy", then it's also OK to call President Bush "the shrub". I responded: That's obvious to you and me, but Steve is the master of "dual standards" (I think his term when others follow his example is "two faced"). K4YZ retorted: Bill Clinton is NOT a "sitting president". He is NOT the present "Commander in Chief". Oh boy, nailing K4YZ exercising his "double standard" rights is gonna be WAY too much fun. Back in 1999 when Bill Clinton WAS a sitting president, and when he WAS the "present Commander in Chief", Steve said things like.... ....."Is the entire White House guilty of immoral conduct because Slick Willy got lubed in the Oval Office?", and ....."you KNOW it had to happen with Slick Willy at the helm)", and ....."Slick Willy's fundraising club has made great hay out of "spectrum allocations".", and ....."When an admitted liar can escape from the hangman one more time like Slick Willy, you have to wonder." And he has the grapes berate me for lack of respect for Shrub! dit dit de Hans, K0HB |
Subject: Steve steps into it again!
From: "KØHB" Date: 12/16/2004 2:50 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: . net N2EY said: If it's OK to call President Clinton "Slick Willy", then it's also OK to call President Bush "the shrub". I responded: That's obvious to you and me, but Steve is the master of "dual standards" Oh... You mean like the other post you made JUST TODAY wherein you allegedly put me in the "permanent bit" file...?!?! No problem, Hans. And he has the grapes berate me for lack of respect for Shrub! Yes, I do. Bill Clinton made a mockery of the office of the Presidency. He lied, over and over, got caught at it over and over. You may or may not like GW's policies, but at least when we hear from him, it's about the business of the government...Not who he slept with or how he slept with them... dit dit OK, Lennie...Just like I always said..... Steve, K4YZ |
"Steve Robeson K4YZ" wrote Hans Brakob supports the use of American resources by terrorists against America. Quote where I expressed that support, Steve! (DOS Hint: I never said it!) I just love using your words against you..... Here's a couple of samples "Liar, liar, pants on fire!" or "You got your dirty laundry aired out and you aren't one tenth the man necessary to say "Ooops...I was wrong.." Sunuvagun! This is fun! OBTW, I still think The Shrub is an idiot. So was Slick Willy. dit dit de Hans, K0HB |
Subject: OOOpppss! You stepped in it again, Steve!
From: "KØHB" Date: 12/16/2004 4:16 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: t "Steve Robeson K4YZ" wrote Hans Brakob supports the use of American resources by terrorists against America. Quote where I expressed that support, Steve! (DOS Hint: I never said it!) No "DOS Hint" needed Hans. Your suggestion that "the president's plan" to shut down GPS in response to some significant emergency was enough. The article clearly defined that it was just a "plan". That "plan" was expressed almost 10 years earlier by President Bush's predecessor. I just love using your words against you..... Here's a couple of samples "Liar, liar, pants on fire!" or "You got your dirty laundry aired out and you aren't one tenth the man necessary to say "Ooops...I was wrong.." Sunuvagun! This is fun! Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.....Hans...since you have first hand experience that I DO admit an error, I am at a bit of a loss as to understand where you got THAT from. OBTW, I still think The Shrub is an idiot. So was Slick Willy. And I think you're a two faced liar. Ya pays yer money and takes your choice.... Hans Brakob supports terrorism. Steve, K4YZ |
I've got no problem with opposing viewpoints, but in the end, it's time
for MoveOn.Org to take its own advice and move on. That goes for the MoveOn cheerleaders as well. BOL, bb |
I've got no problem with opposing viewpoints, but in the end, it's time
for MoveOn.Org to take its own advice and move on. That goes for the MoveOn cheerleaders as well. BOL, bb |
I've got no problem with opposing viewpoints, but in the end, it's time
for MoveOn.Org to take its own advice and move on. That goes for the MoveOn cheerleaders as well. BOL, bb |
I've got no problem with opposing viewpoints, but in the end, it's time
for MoveOn.Org to take its own advice and move on. That goes for the MoveOn cheerleaders as well. BOL, bb |
"Steve Robeson K4YZ" wrote in message ... Subject: OOOpppss! You stepped in it again, Steve! From: "KØHB" Date: 12/16/2004 4:16 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: t "Steve Robeson K4YZ" wrote Hans Brakob supports the use of American resources by terrorists against America. Quote where I expressed that support, Steve! (DOS Hint: I never said it!) No "DOS Hint" needed Hans. Your suggestion that "the president's plan" to shut down GPS in response to some significant emergency was enough. The article clearly defined that it was just a "plan". That "plan" was expressed almost 10 years earlier by President Bush's predecessor. I just love using your words against you..... Here's a couple of samples "Liar, liar, pants on fire!" or "You got your dirty laundry aired out and you aren't one tenth the man necessary to say "Ooops...I was wrong.." Sunuvagun! This is fun! Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.....Hans...since you have first hand experience that I DO admit an error, I am at a bit of a loss as to understand where you got THAT from. OBTW, I still think The Shrub is an idiot. So was Slick Willy. And I think you're a two faced liar. Ya pays yer money and takes your choice.... Hans Brakob supports terrorism. Steve, K4YZ Steve, If a gas station owner decides to protect himself against a potential robber by hooking dynamite up to his gas pumps, I might consider the idea not to be a particularly sound one. I think Hans is pointing out that turning off GPS might not be the best idea in the world. I believe that option was being looked at as a last resort. I doubt that would be used for terrorists. In case no one noticed, Russia is building up ICBMs designed to defeat any anti-ballistic missiles the U.S. puts on-line. You should realize that we have been invading countries with missiles that can contain a nuclear warhead. Other countries (including Russia) are not missing that fact. Should satellites or radar reveal a *lot* of launches, it just might be a good idea to turn off the GPS. It might not save Washington, but it would probably save Bush's bunker. Other than that, the idea of turning off GPS does not strike me as particularly sound. Pope Bush ... er, excuse me, President Bush, has not exactly enamoured himself nor the United States to most of the civilized (or less civilized) world. Bush certainly is not an idiot; he's got a lot of folks convinced that he is right. I find it fascinating that blame for the deficit seems to be pointing everywhere except where it belongs - right at the White House. I also love how he lauds the men and women of the U.S. military - and both federal funding for the V.A. drop every year. So, your boy in the White House says one thing and then does another. Actions speak louder than words. Best regards from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA |
I've got no problem with opposing viewpoints, but in the end, it's time
for MoveOn.Org to take its own advice and move on. That goes for the MoveOn cheerleaders as well. BOL, bb |
Subject: OOOpppss! You stepped in it again, Steve!
From: "JAMES HAMPTON" Date: 12/16/2004 6:58 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: If a gas station owner decides to protect himself against a potential robber by hooking dynamite up to his gas pumps, I might consider the idea not to be a particularly sound one. I think Hans is pointing out that turning off GPS might not be the best idea in the world. Jim, I am as likely to use an analogy as anyone else, but I'm having a real hard time following your gas pumps-dynamite one.... I believe that option was being looked at as a last resort. I doubt that would be used for terrorists. Of course it was a "last resort". Although they didn't use those words in the article, I thought it pretty well stated that this was NOT a "first line" option. Hans' attempt to ridicule the President made it sound as if President Bush was ready to throw the switch at any moment. In case no one noticed, Russia is building up ICBMs designed to defeat any anti-ballistic missiles the U.S. puts on-line. I am sure they are. And we'll spend money to defeat that...They'll counter that...We'll come up with a new "stealth" technology, then they'll copy it, etc, etc etc..... You should realize that we have been invading countries with missiles that can contain a nuclear warhead. Other countries (including Russia) are not missing that fact. Should satellites or radar reveal a *lot* of launches, it just might be a good idea to turn off the GPS. It might not save Washington, but it would probably save Bush's bunker. Other than that, the idea of turning off GPS does not strike me as particularly sound. In the matter of a military first strike by Russia or any other soverign nation, no, GPS probably wouldn't matter. Pope Bush ... er, excuse me, President Bush, has not exactly enamoured himself nor the United States to most of the civilized (or less civilized) world. Bush certainly is not an idiot; he's got a lot of folks convinced that he is right. I find it fascinating that blame for the deficit seems to be pointing everywhere except where it belongs - right at the White House. You...me...Joe Average Citizen is responsible for the deficit, Jim. We buy the Nissan's, Kia's, and cheap clothes at Wal-Mart. We buy the DVD players manufactured in China or Korea, the shoes made in Malaysia, and the furniture from Denmark. Wanna stop a lot of the "deficit"...??? Stop the export of welfare money to 3rd world countries who divert the monies from food to weapons...Stop buying the above mentioned items in favor of higher priced American made items... I also love how he lauds the men and women of the U.S. military - and both federal funding for the V.A. drop every year. So, your boy in the White House says one thing and then does another. "My boy" is not the one solely responsible for that, Jim. A review of federal spending on benefit programs going back 3 decades will show otherwise. They were cutting VA funds before I made Sergeant in 77... Actions speak louder than words. Yes they do. Bill Clinton said he did not have sex with that woman and that he'd track down Osama bin Laden and others responsible for the WTC and USS Cole bombings. He lied. The price was even more American lives lost due to camel-fornicationg terrorists, and a complete humiliation of the Office of the Presidency. G W Bush said that Al-Queda was going to pay a price for it's treatchery in NYC. He kept his word. Yes, American lives have been lost in combat, but the one thing the "rest" of the world does NOT do anymore is doubt the word of the American President if he says he's going to do something, whether they like what he's saying or not. So you are quite right...Actions DO speak louder than words. I can tolerate G W stating his case, making a decison, and then taking the heat for mistakes. Bill Clinton is STILL lying about Monica Lewinsky and every other controversy he got himself into in the White House despite evidence to the contrary... And to top it off, he AND his wife, now Senator from New York, tried to make off with thousands of dollars of property from the White House when they left and were forced to return it. And what is she doing now...?!?! "Testing the waters" for a run at the White House herself. 73 Steve, K4YZ |
"K4YZ" wrote in message ups.com... From another thread, Hans made the most assinine statement: ......Now, do you really honestly think, that anyone here really gives a flying 14.313 radio**** about your lunatic rantings ? None-the-less, the idea of being able to inhibit or completely disable the system is STILL not new, and I for one hope they DO keep the reigns on it! It was an error to let it loose in the first place. Steve, K4YZ Not as big as the error letting you out of your straight jacket, Why don't you go over to The Legion and visit all those nice brown bottles sittin on ice under the table? (..and afterwards be sure to take the long route home behind the wheel...hick! hick!) "I mean, if I went around saying I was an Emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, people would put me away!" - Monty Python and the Holy Grail http://bau2.uibk.ac.at/sg/python/Sounds.html |
"Steve Robeson K4YZ" wrote in message ... Subject: OOOpppss! You stepped in it again, Steve! From: "JAMES HAMPTON" Date: 12/16/2004 6:58 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: If a gas station owner decides to protect himself against a potential robber by hooking dynamite up to his gas pumps, I might consider the idea not to be a particularly sound one. I think Hans is pointing out that turning off GPS might not be the best idea in the world. Jim, I am as likely to use an analogy as anyone else, but I'm having a real hard time following your gas pumps-dynamite one.... I believe that option was being looked at as a last resort. I doubt that would be used for terrorists. Of course it was a "last resort". Although they didn't use those words in the article, I thought it pretty well stated that this was NOT a "first line" option. Hans' attempt to ridicule the President made it sound as if President Bush was ready to throw the switch at any moment. In case no one noticed, Russia is building up ICBMs designed to defeat any anti-ballistic missiles the U.S. puts on-line. I am sure they are. And we'll spend money to defeat that...They'll counter that...We'll come up with a new "stealth" technology, then they'll copy it, etc, etc etc..... You should realize that we have been invading countries with missiles that can contain a nuclear warhead. Other countries (including Russia) are not missing that fact. Should satellites or radar reveal a *lot* of launches, it just might be a good idea to turn off the GPS. It might not save Washington, but it would probably save Bush's bunker. Other than that, the idea of turning off GPS does not strike me as particularly sound. In the matter of a military first strike by Russia or any other soverign nation, no, GPS probably wouldn't matter. Pope Bush ... er, excuse me, President Bush, has not exactly enamoured himself nor the United States to most of the civilized (or less civilized) world. Bush certainly is not an idiot; he's got a lot of folks convinced that he is right. I find it fascinating that blame for the deficit seems to be pointing everywhere except where it belongs - right at the White House. You...me...Joe Average Citizen is responsible for the deficit, Jim. We buy the Nissan's, Kia's, and cheap clothes at Wal-Mart. We buy the DVD players manufactured in China or Korea, the shoes made in Malaysia, and the furniture from Denmark. Wanna stop a lot of the "deficit"...??? Stop the export of welfare money to 3rd world countries who divert the monies from food to weapons...Stop buying the above mentioned items in favor of higher priced American made items... I also love how he lauds the men and women of the U.S. military - and both federal funding for the V.A. drop every year. So, your boy in the White House says one thing and then does another. "My boy" is not the one solely responsible for that, Jim. A review of federal spending on benefit programs going back 3 decades will show otherwise. They were cutting VA funds before I made Sergeant in 77... Actions speak louder than words. Yes they do. Bill Clinton said he did not have sex with that woman and that he'd track down Osama bin Laden and others responsible for the WTC and USS Cole bombings. He lied. The price was even more American lives lost due to camel-fornicationg terrorists, and a complete humiliation of the Office of the Presidency. G W Bush said that Al-Queda was going to pay a price for it's treatchery in NYC. He kept his word. Yes, American lives have been lost in combat, but the one thing the "rest" of the world does NOT do anymore is doubt the word of the American President if he says he's going to do something, whether they like what he's saying or not. So you are quite right...Actions DO speak louder than words. I can tolerate G W stating his case, making a decison, and then taking the heat for mistakes. Bill Clinton is STILL lying about Monica Lewinsky and every other controversy he got himself into in the White House despite evidence to the contrary... And to top it off, he AND his wife, now Senator from New York, tried to make off with thousands of dollars of property from the White House when they left and were forced to return it. And what is she doing now...?!?! "Testing the waters" for a run at the White House herself. 73 Steve, K4YZ Hello, Steve I hope she wins. Anything to share the grief. The only way we could get rid of governor Rockefeller was when he became vice president after Spiro Agnew got caught up with problems (after Tricky Dicky got caught up with his own problems LOL). So, you can have her .... (the truth comes out LOL) 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA |
Maybe the USA needs to hold a "Have to get along without GPS Day!" It
would be nice if it were simultaneous with our Independance Day. Remind the moochers of the world of the benefits they accept so freely. |
Subject: K0HB Supports Terrorist Use Of GPS Net Against America
From: "bb" Date: 12/19/2004 10:33 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: .com Maybe the USA needs to hold a "Have to get along without GPS Day!" It would be nice if it were simultaneous with our Independance Day. Remind the moochers of the world of the benefits they accept so freely. Started laughing my butt off, but then suddenly stopped and realized that it's really a pretty danged good idea! And they need to give just one hour's notice. (There are very bonafide safety issues to consider...). 73 Steve, K4YZ |
Maybe I'll go find an official Air Force suggestion form (Form 1000?)
and send it in the right way. Yeh, we can make it an annual event, post it in the NOTAMS, etc. Give the world another reason to hate us. bb |
Maybe I'll go find an official Air Force suggestion form (Form 1000?)
and send it in the right way. Yeh, we can make it an annual event, post it in the NOTAMS, etc. Give the world another reason to hate us. bb |
"bb" wrote Maybe I'll go find an official Air Force suggestion form (Form 1000?) and send it in the right way. If you're short of those forms, I have almost a full roll of them hanging on the wall in the throne room. 3, de Hans, K0HB |
Hans says: "If you're short of those forms, I have almost a full roll
of them hanging on the wall in the throne room. 3, de Hans, K0HB" Just like a drunken sailor to wipe with the wrong form. Air Force Form One comes on a roll, with each form separated from the next by a perforation. Air Force Form 1000 is a stand-alone form, no carbon copy, no perforations. BOL, bb |
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