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"Phil Kane" wrote: .... As far as relocation - when I hired on in 1967 they paid my transportation and moving expenses cross-country. It may have changed by the time that you were contacted. Actually I would have had to waive the relocation required by regulations, since I would have been a transfer from the Navy. I declined to, they declined to finalize the offer. I did have to laugh, the manager in question was elated over a budget increase that amounted to the "pin" money my minor project had. But then I was DoD under Regan and he wasn't -- -------------------------------------------------------- Personal e-mail is the n7bsn but at amsat.org This posting address is a spam-trap and seldom read RV and Camping FAQ can be found at http://www.ralphandellen.us/rv |
Mike Coslo wrote: Len Anderson wrote: In article , Mike Coslo writes: Len Anderson wrote: In article .com, writes: The big question is: what does it matter if Morse is binary or not? . . . finally . . of course not. But you already knew that . . Quite true. The coslonaut (reaching for the threashold of space through surplus helium balloons) originally posted a troll message to liven up this "members-only" chat room cum group blog. You betchya! Webster's New World Compact School and Office Dictionary (1989) has the definition of BINARY as following: "1. Made up of two parts: double 2. designating or of a number system in which the base used is two, each number being expressed by using only two digits, specifically 1 and 0." How many states are there in Morse code? On, and Off? Is that all? Coslo, do you have a reading defect? Here's what I wrote: I can read. ========== Webster's New World Compact School and Office Dictionary (1989) has the definition of BINARY as following: "1. Made up of two parts: double 2. designating or of a number system in which the base used is two, each number being expressed by using only two digits, specifically 1 and 0." Specifically 1 and 0, indeed. That is why when we try to make Morse code computer compatible, We? W0EX did not, RIP. He specifically stated that he would send Morse Code so that computer readers (manned by unworthy no-code Technicians) could not copy his messages. Besides, if something is digital, why would you have to try so hard to make it computer compatible? we interpret the dah or dash as 3 '1's" in length, (followed by a 0) the dit or dot as 1 "1" (followed by a 0, and various numbers of 0's for spaces in between letters or numbers, or words. As used in all electronics, the first definition is used with an emphasis on STATE of something, such as on or off, there or not there. Two-state. In on-off keying (OOK) CW the carrier is either present or not there. Two states. No. At least to only two states. Obviously it is either there or not there. It has a time component that is what carries the information. The "there" or "not thereness" of the signal is one thing. The relationship of one carrier pulse length to other carrier pulse length, and to the intercarrier lack of pulse time is what is important. Try the null hypothesis. Are you saying the silent periods are valueless? |
Dave Heil wrote: Len Anderson wrote: Two states. In any of the states of the United States and in all the "airwaves" of the universe. Sorry, old bean. I live in a tri-state area. Dave K8MN Twit. |
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Morse is about sounds Binary in modern use is ones and zeroes in computer stuff -- Caveat Lector (Reader Beware) |
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Mike Coslo wrote: Len Anderson wrote: In article , Mike Coslo writes: Len Anderson wrote: In article .com, writes: The big question is: what does it matter if Morse is binary or not? . . . finally . . of course not. But you already knew that . . Quite true. The coslonaut (reaching for the threashold of space through surplus helium balloons) originally posted a troll message to liven up this "members-only" chat room cum group blog. You betchya! Webster's New World Compact School and Office Dictionary (1989) has the definition of BINARY as following: "1. Made up of two parts: double 2. designating or of a number system in which the base used is two, each number being expressed by using only two digits, specifically 1 and 0." How many states are there in Morse code? On, and Off? Is that all? Coslo, do you have a reading defect? Here's what I wrote: I can read. ========== Webster's New World Compact School and Office Dictionary (1989) has the definition of BINARY as following: "1. Made up of two parts: double 2. designating or of a number system in which the base used is two, each number being expressed by using only two digits, specifically 1 and 0." Specifically 1 and 0, indeed. That is why when we try to make Morse code computer compatible, We? W0EX did not, RIP. He specifically stated that he would send Morse Code so that computer readers (manned by unworthy no-code Technicians) could not copy his messages. Yeah, I'm not sure what the deal was there. Besides, if something is digital, why would you have to try so hard to make it computer compatible? Good point! we interpret the dah or dash as 3 '1's" in length, (followed by a 0) the dit or dot as 1 "1" (followed by a 0, and various numbers of 0's for spaces in between letters or numbers, or words. As used in all electronics, the first definition is used with an emphasis on STATE of something, such as on or off, there or not there. Two-state. In on-off keying (OOK) CW the carrier is either present or not there. Two states. No. At least to only two states. Obviously it is either there or not there. It has a time component that is what carries the information. The "there" or "not thereness" of the signal is one thing. The relationship of one carrier pulse length to other carrier pulse length, and to the intercarrier lack of pulse time is what is important. Try the null hypothesis. Are you saying the silent periods are valueless? From what I've seen there is a gender difference as to the worth of silence! ;^) - Mike KB3EIA - |
Len Anderson wrote:
Coslonaut might just think that off times have great value...as in the old hoary expression "silence is golden." Thanks Len, but I'll pass on the silence thing. Perhaps you should filter my messages? If so, he should gilt himself and be silent, quit trying to make a primitive method into high technology. If you think I'm trying to turn Morse code into high technology, you have it wrong. All apologies for being a besetment! 8^) - Mike KB3EIA - |
Besides, if something is digital, why would you have to try so hard to make it computer compatible? Telling "S" from "O" is hard if you don't already know from looking at other characters what the speed must be. Something easy for the brain but hard for computers to do when the sender varies his speed. |
In article et, robert casey
writes: Besides, if something is digital, why would you have to try so hard to make it computer compatible? Telling "S" from "O" is hard if you don't already know from looking at other characters what the speed must be. No, it's easy. "S" is one time unit on, one time unit off, one time unit on, one time unit off, one time unit on. Then at least three time units off. "O" is three time units on, one time unit off, three time units on, one time unit off, three time units on. Then at least three time units off. The only true ambiguity is between "E" and "T" sent all by themselves. Unless you know the speed from some other source, there's no way to tell them apart. Something easy for the brain but hard for computers to do when the sender varies his speed. Naw, just requires a bit more software. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
bb wrote:
Dave Heil wrote: Len Anderson wrote: Two states. In any of the states of the United States and in all the "airwaves" of the universe. Sorry, old bean. I live in a tri-state area. Twit. Don't be too hard on yourself. Dave K8MN |
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