"Dave Heil" wrote in message
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Todd Daugherty wrote:

The Death of Amateur Radio

By

Todd Daugherty N9OGL

I've been asked on the newsgroup
rec.radio.amateur.policy
to back up my statements regarding the death of amateur radio and the
FCC's
suppression of free speech on the radio. Therefore, I've deiced to write
this paper on the subject. Now, I know there are amateur radio operators
who
will not read this article or will write it off as the writes by some
crack
pot.

Well, Todd, I've read the entire thing and I've not written it off "as
the writes by some crack pot". I've written it off "as the writes by
some" special crackpot.


But one must remember everyone has an opinion; this happens to be mine.

...and you aren't one to allow reality to stand in your way.

Amateur radio is slowing dying; now many amateurs would disagree
with
that statement however, this is a harsh reality.

Well let's look at some numbers shall we....


The following are the Numbers of people entering the amateur radio service:

DATE TOTAL
--------------------------------------
12/04/04 671,837
01/02/05 667,562 down by 4,275
01/09/05 668,051 up by 489
01/16/05 668,750 up by 735
TOTAL STILL DOWN 3,015

The bottom line numbers really don't lie...people can say amateur radio is
on the rise but the actually truth is the number of people getting in the
service is still down from the previous month


Many radio amateurs would disagree with your statement because it has no
basis in fact. Now THAT is harsh reality.

Now as I stated above I
have been asked to "prove it" so that what I'm attending to do. Amateur
radio is dying because it is unable to keep up with commercial services.

Amateur radio isn't a commercial service and isn't in competition with
commercial services. It has no reason to "keep up".

And it's THAT attitude that will kill amateur radio. No one will come to the
service if there is something BETTER out there.

On
February of 2000 I participated in a discussion entitled "What the heck
is
Packet radio go for anyway" which was started by someone named
"Inquisitor"
anyway I pointed out that Packet Radio didn't have the variety as the
internet. If packet was to grow packet would have to basically compete
with
the internet.

Packet radio is not the internet. It has no reason to become like the
internet.

That's YOUR opinion, Packet could be better then the Internet but wait
dumbass like you don't want that.

For amateur radio to survive
they are going to have to compete with the internet or there will be no
amateur radio in near future.

Sure, Todd--and amateur astronomy is going to have to compete with
roller blading or there will be no amateur astronomy in the future.

Not comparable, what you are comparing is two hobbies while I'm comparing
two communication system, One dominate (internet) and the other is a third
class communication system (amateur radio).


As I stated on the newsgroup
rec.radio.amateur.policy look at it this way. Go to streets of your town
as
ask the average person on the street if they had a choice between the
Internet and Amateur radio which one would they pick? The vast majority
of
people would pick the internet. The reason is the internet provides a
vast
variety of information unlike amateur radio. People can talk via email,
chat
rooms, voice communication and other systems over the internet. With
Internet 2 coming out the Internet with grow ever more.

Ask the average man on the street to choose between the stamp collecting
and the internet and he'll likely choose the internet. He knows more
about the internet and stamp collecting has no provision for downloading
pirated music or pornography.

The majority of people don't what amateur radio is...and the vast majority
of people don't care.

Amateur radio has variety of information unlike the internet. People
can talk via their voices, via Morse, via keyboard modes, via
television. The two are not the same thing. That's why I'm introducing
Amateur Radio II, aka Amateur Radio Lite. It'll be like amateur radio
but without all of the icky stuff like "RF", "IF", fomulae and morse
code. It'll draw those folks who are "otherwise qualified" and mildly
interested.
Voice, Morse code, television on and on can ALL be done on the internet.
what amateurs need to is advance and come up with something a lot new...My
packet idea is one way.

Why should someone
take the time to get a license to talk to people all over the world via
radio when they can do it on the internet?

Why would someone take up tightrope walking when there are perfectly
good sidewalks? Why would anyone walk when they can drive a car?


One of the problems that helps propagate this no competing attitude is
both
the amateur and FCC's view on content control.

Ahhhh. This is where Todd gets into his favorite rant.

Section 326 of the Communication Act of 1934 prohibits the FCC for
controlling the content of ANY radio station. This also applies to the
amateur radio service. However, this seems NOT to be the case.

You've been given free advice from a professional in the field. You've
chosen to ignore the advice because it conflicts with your rather
uneducated view of the regulations.

No but this bull**** idea that you have to be a lawyer to read rules and
regulation which are straight forward is that bull****.

When I
announced on the newsgroup about my Information bulletin I received a
post
from Riley Hollingsworth the FCC chief enforcer of the amateur radio
service. Telling me to let him know when I go on the air so he can send
me a
"QSL CARD". The QSL card he was of course talking about was a warning
letter. This of course is not the first time Mr. Hollingsworth who works
for
the FCC tried to suppress Free Speech.

A smarter fellow would have taken the hint which Mr. Hollingsworth
dropped.
First off the system wasn't up and running so he should of shut his ****ing
mouth because information bulletins are LEGAL. My information bulletins run
on one day, for one hour and deal with amateur radio issues....thus legal.
If it's interfering with transmission (which it isn't) fine then go after
the interference but to get on a newsgroups and intimidate a system BEFORE
IT'S EVEN ON is showing how he and the ****ing FCC really are...ASSHOLES!

In 1990 the
FCC sent letters out to 19 Net and Bulletin stations on 20 meters and of
course the ARRL a.k.a. The Amateur Radio Nazi Party deiced to stick
their
Gestapo free speech suppression nose in it.

I doubt that the ARRL "deiced" anything. Your choice of nicknames
further marks you as a very special crackpot.

I was asked on
the newsgroup to prove how I'm being suppressed. Well, when you have a
FCC
official threaten you with a warning letter over your Information
bulletin
which hadn't even begun. Then the idea if suppression of Free Speech by
a
Federal agency is a primary example of my right to voice my opinion is
being
suppressed by the FCC.

You were repeatedly asked which things you were being prevented from
saying over the air via amateur radio. You never bothered to reply.
You've provided the FCC enough ammunition through your public statements
here, to nail your hide to the barn door if you decide that you want to
play boy broadcaster.

Intimidate someone before they have the system is even up and running is a
form of suppression. secondly if you didn't read above my information
bulletins are legal. My information bulletins run on one day, for one hour
and deal with amateur radio issues. They are legal regardless of what you
think.


Todd N9OGL


Dave K8MN




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Todd Daugherty wrote:



And it's THAT attitude that will kill amateur radio. No one will come to the
service if there is something BETTER out there.

Getting too many in ham radio like you will kill ham radio.

**** you cornhole
Todd

"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
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Todd Daugherty wrote:



And it's THAT attitude that will kill amateur radio. No one will come to
the
service if there is something BETTER out there.

Getting too many in ham radio like you will kill ham radio.





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Attract em with some kinda new fangled packet racket. Yeah right.

Let see you come up with something better....between you and Cmd Buzz Corey
which one of you the butch and which one is the bitch???

Todd N9OGL
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Attract em with some kinda new fangled packet racket. Yeah right.





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You faggot. Go back to your faggot school and jerk off in the bathroom.

This is an Advance packet system, unlike that crappy system we all know to
hate.

N9OGL

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Attract em with some kinda new fangled packet racket. Yeah right.





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Advanced Packet System... Okey dokey, now what are you going to do with
it? Exchange signal reports & wx? It's for girly men.

N9OGL ADVANCE PACKET NETWORK


The Advanced Amateur Radio Packet Network (AARPN) will NOT be setup like the
known packet system. The network will be set up like this; One centralized
node will serve a community and the surrounding area. An amateur opeator
would click on a Peer to Peer (P2P) icon on their computers and it will
connect them to the centralized node. An amateur would then would type in
the search engine in the P2P software what they are looking for like a Icom
for sale or a tech manual. This system has a huge advantage over the old
system. first it would be operating at 1 to 11megabits per second. Second
there would be no fowarding because if you have something to sale like a
radio, you can but a little description and put it in your share file
folder.Or a tech manual you would also put it in your share file folder. The
centralized node would be hooked up to the internet and the internet would
be used as a high speed "backbone" systerm. This in turn would connecting
all the radio nodes together. Other applications like email, chat and later
virtual reality programs could be used. Girly you say, well I would this
system over any system. Like I said you whiney like bitch whore I ****ing
dare you come up with something different.

Todd N9OGL




"Bathrooman" wrote in message
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Advanced Packet System... Okey dokey, now what are you going to do with
it? Exchange signal reports & wx? It's for girly men.





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Todd Daugherty wrote:
Very mature reply toddyboy.

**** you cornhole
Todd

"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
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Todd Daugherty wrote:



And it's THAT attitude that will kill amateur radio. No one will come to

the

service if there is something BETTER out there.


Getting too many in ham radio like you will kill ham radio.






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