N9OGL wrote:

The point of the argument is for amateur's radio to grow amateurs are
going
to have to compete with the internet.

No, that not only isn't the point, there isn't any argument except in
your mind.

Compete in the sense of getting
people into the hobby.

Amateur radio competes with any other leisure activity for time. Some
folks find it fascinating. Some have no interest. Not everyone is
going to become a radio amateur.

The old modes of communication isn't going to
cut it anymore.

They seem to be cutting it just fine, Todd. What new mode do you use in
your clandestine "broadcasts"?


The vast majority of people would rather get on the
internet
instead of getting into a hobby which has nothing to really offer in
terms
new modes of communication.

The vast majority of people are never going to become hams. It has
always been that way and will always be that way.

Many amateur radio operators can face the
fact
that amateur radio is slowly falling behind in technology and thus in
turn
is slowly dying off.

You've managed to dump a couple of false premises in one sentence.
You're wrong about technology and about amateur radio dying.

Amateur radio will not grow if you can't get
people
into the service.

Amateur radio licensing numbers are near an all time high.

You can drop the licensing structure down to nothing
but
no one will come into a hobby without dated modes of communication.

I'm too busy laughing at your sentence to give you a serious reply,
Todd.

Dave K8MN

"Dave Heil" wrote in message
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N9OGL wrote:

The point of the argument is for amateur's radio to grow amateurs are
going
to have to compete with the internet.

No, that not only isn't the point, there isn't any argument except in
your mind.

Compete in the sense of getting
people into the hobby.

Amateur radio competes with any other leisure activity for time. Some
folks find it fascinating. Some have no interest. Not everyone is
going to become a radio amateur.

The old modes of communication isn't going to
cut it anymore.

They seem to be cutting it just fine, Todd. What new mode do you use in
your clandestine "broadcasts"?

I'm running an information bulletin you dickhead and no matter what the ****
you think their ****ing legal so get over it!

The vast majority of people would rather get on the
internet
instead of getting into a hobby which has nothing to really offer in
terms
new modes of communication.

The vast majority of people are never going to become hams. It has
always been that way and will always be that way.

No, not all people well get into amateur radio, but unless you can come up
with new idea's the service will die. I was talking to other amatuers about
this subject odd of the internet and agree that amateur radio will probably
die off in a few years.

Many amateur radio operators can face the
fact
that amateur radio is slowly falling behind in technology and thus in
turn
is slowly dying off.

You've managed to dump a couple of false premises in one sentence.
You're wrong about technology and about amateur radio dying.

Oh really, what NEW technologies has amatuer radio come up with worth
getting into? Amateur are falling behind that's the truth.

Amateur radio will not grow if you can't get
people
into the service.

Amateur radio licensing numbers are near an all time high.

Not true, according to the statistics last year amateur radio went up and
down in the number of people entering the service. last month it was down by
over 1,000 people.

You can drop the licensing structure down to nothing
but
no one will come into a hobby without dated modes of communication.

I'm too busy laughing at your sentence to give you a serious reply,
Todd.

Dave K8MN




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Todd Daugherty wrote:



I'm running an information bulletin you dickhead and no matter what the ****
you think their ****ing legal so get over it!

Toddyboy, why don't you go away until you pass through puberty and
become mature enough to post something of revelance without the use of
jr. highschool language? Do you really think that makes anyone take your
rantings more seriously? NOT!!!!!!!!

"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
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Todd Daugherty wrote:



I'm running an information bulletin you dickhead and no matter what the
**** you think their ****ing legal so get over it!

Toddyboy, why don't you go away until you pass through puberty and become
mature enough to post something of revelance without the use of jr.
highschool language?

Well if I didn't have to talk to a bunch of morons I wouldn't have to uses
such language.And FYI I'm currently in college working on my degree what
about you?


Do you really think that makes anyone take your
rantings more seriously? NOT!!!!!!!!

Do you REALLY think I care what a bunch of appliance using CB operators
think....HELL NO!

Todd N9OGL



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Todd Daugherty N9OGL wrote:

"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
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Todd Daugherty wrote:



I'm running an information bulletin you dickhead and no matter what the
**** you think their ****ing legal so get over it!

Toddyboy, why don't you go away until you pass through puberty and become
mature enough to post something of revelance without the use of jr.
highschool language?

Well if I didn't have to talk to a bunch of morons I wouldn't have to uses
such language.

None of those you refer to as "a bunch of morons" use such language to
you. If I understand you, you are being forced to use the language
because others aren't taking your ideas seriously.

And FYI I'm currently in college working on my degree what
about you?

You were able to graduate from high school with your writing skills and
were accepted into a college?

Do you really think that makes anyone take your
rantings more seriously? NOT!!!!!!!!

Do you REALLY think I care what a bunch of appliance using CB operators
think....HELL NO!

CB operators? You're in the wrong newsgroup.

Appliance ops? Almost all of us use some or all commercial equipment
these days, Todd. For me to build the equivalent of just my primary
transceiver, it would need to be housed in a garden shed and would take
up several years of spare time. Just so we know, what sets you aside
from the rest of us? What gear do you currently use which you've
designed or built yourself?

Dave K8MN

Todd Daugherty N9OGL wrote:

"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...

Todd Daugherty wrote:


I'm running an information bulletin you dickhead and no matter what the
**** you think their ****ing legal so get over it!

Toddyboy, why don't you go away until you pass through puberty and become
mature enough to post something of revelance without the use of jr.
highschool language?


Well if I didn't have to talk to a bunch of morons I wouldn't have to uses
such language.

I think you have it backwards on just who the moron is.

And FYI I'm currently in college working on my degree

What degree is that, "how to be jerk"?

what
about you?

Did that a long time ago toddyboy, but unlike you, I grew up before I
did it too.



Do you really think that makes anyone take your

rantings more seriously? NOT!!!!!!!!


Do you REALLY think I care what a bunch of appliance using CB operators
think....HELL NO!

Todd N9OGL

Obviously you don't care what anyone thinks, but that's your problem,
however your silly immature rantings do not impress anyone.

Like I say, get through pimples and puberty, grow up to the point you
can communicate like a mature adult without all the jr. highschool
vulguarities, then maybe someone will take you half-way seriously.

"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
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Todd Daugherty N9OGL wrote:

"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...

Todd Daugherty wrote:


I'm running an information bulletin you dickhead and no matter what the
**** you think their ****ing legal so get over it!

Toddyboy, why don't you go away until you pass through puberty and become
mature enough to post something of revelance without the use of jr.
highschool language?


Well if I didn't have to talk to a bunch of morons I wouldn't have to
uses such language.

I think you have it backwards on just who the moron is.

And FYI I'm currently in college working on my degree

What degree is that, "how to be jerk"?
No computer science...I wouldn't be such a jerk if you would stick to the
issue at hand. No where in my originally post did I state that amateur radio
should run nothing but information bulletins, it was YOU and your little
buddies bathroomman, and Dave Heil who keep bring it up. No instead I have
to battle it out with a bunch of amateurs who are narrow minded and have the
attention span of a ameba.

what about you?

Did that a long time ago toddyboy, but unlike you, I grew up before I did
it too.



Do you really think that makes anyone take your

rantings more seriously? NOT!!!!!!!!


Do you REALLY think I care what a bunch of appliance using CB operators
think....HELL NO!

Todd N9OGL

Obviously you don't care what anyone thinks, but that's your problem,
however your silly immature rantings do not impress anyone.

Like I say, get through pimples and puberty, grow up to the point you can
communicate like a mature adult without all the jr. highschool
vulguarities, then maybe someone will take you half-way seriously.

Sure, you don't use vulguarties, but you do try to provoke it....

Todd N9OGL



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"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
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Todd Daugherty wrote:



I'm running an information bulletin you dickhead and no matter what the
**** you think their ****ing legal so get over it!

Toddyboy, why don't you go away until you pass through puberty and become
mature enough to post something of revelance without the use of jr.
highschool language? Do you really think that makes anyone take your
rantings more seriously? NOT!!!!!!!!

Well it's not my fault if that dumb ass doesn't know the different between
a "broadcast" and a "information bulletin". I also sick of repeating myself
to a bunch of dumb asses morons who can't tell the difference between the
two. I will repeat it one more time; I'm running a information bulletin and
information bulletins are LEGAL wither you like it or not..

Todd N9OGL



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Todd Daugherty wrote:

"Dave Heil" wrote in message
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N9OGL wrote:

The old modes of communication isn't going to
cut it anymore.

They seem to be cutting it just fine, Todd. What new mode do you use in
your clandestine "broadcasts"?

I'm running an information bulletin you snipped and no matter what the
snipped you think their snipped legal so get over it!

Wow! That's quite a vocabulary, Todd. You've referred a number of
times to your "broadcast". Your information bulletins are apparently
quite hard to find. That would apparently limit their usefulness.

Care to answer the question about what new modes you are using in
delivering your broadcasts/information bulletins?

The vast majority of people would rather get on the
internet
instead of getting into a hobby which has nothing to really offer in
terms
new modes of communication.

The vast majority of people are never going to become hams. It has
always been that way and will always be that way.

No, not all people well get into amateur radio, but unless you can come up with new idea's the service will die.

Not even a significant segment of "all people" has ever been a part of
amateur radio. Do you see anything wrong with that?

I was talking to other amatuers about
this subject odd of the internet and agree that amateur radio will probably
die off in a few years.

Some people believe that we'll be ruled by a "New World Order" and that
they should start hoarding can goods and MRE's. That doesn't mean that
it is likely to happen. Your term "odd of the internet" might be a good
description of the folks who believe such things.

Many amateur radio operators can face the
fact
that amateur radio is slowly falling behind in technology and thus in
turn
is slowly dying off.

You've managed to dump a couple of false premises in one sentence.
You're wrong about technology and about amateur radio dying.

Oh really, what NEW technologies has amatuer radio come up with worth
getting into? Amateur are falling behind that's the truth.

How about defending one wild idea at a time before moving on to the
next?
You didn't write anything earlier about amateur radio coming up with new
technologies worth getting into, you wrote about amateur radio falling
behind in technology. It isn't. Individual people who happen to be
radio amateurs have often been on the cutting edge of technological
development.
"Amateur Radio" as a whole doesn't create technology. Individuals do.

Amateur radio will not grow if you can't get
people
into the service.

Amateur radio licensing numbers are near an all time high.

Not true, according to the statistics last year amateur radio went up and
down in the number of people entering the service. last month it was down by
over 1,000 people.

What percentage of 600,000 or so individuals is 1,000? Do you think
that
599,000 people is near an all time high number of American radio
amateurs?

You can drop the licensing structure down to nothing
but
no one will come into a hobby without dated modes of communication.

I'm too busy laughing at your sentence to give you a serious reply,
Todd.

Anything further on those hobbies without dated modes of communication?

Dave K8MN

"Dave Heil" wrote in message
...
Todd Daugherty wrote:

"Dave Heil" wrote in message
...
N9OGL wrote:


How about defending one wild idea at a time before moving on to the
next?
You didn't write anything earlier about amateur radio coming up with new
technologies worth getting into, you wrote about amateur radio falling
behind in technology. It isn't.

OH REALLY, tell me what new advances in radio communication have amateurs
come up with in lets say last 10 to 20 years???

answer....NONE!!!



Todd



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