Todd Daugherty wrote:

"Dave Heil" wrote in message
...
N9OGL wrote:

The old modes of communication isn't going to
cut it anymore.

They seem to be cutting it just fine, Todd. What new mode do you use in
your clandestine "broadcasts"?

I'm running an information bulletin you snipped and no matter what the
snipped you think their snipped legal so get over it!

Wow! That's quite a vocabulary, Todd. You've referred a number of
times to your "broadcast". Your information bulletins are apparently
quite hard to find. That would apparently limit their usefulness.

Care to answer the question about what new modes you are using in
delivering your broadcasts/information bulletins?

The vast majority of people would rather get on the
internet
instead of getting into a hobby which has nothing to really offer in
terms
new modes of communication.

The vast majority of people are never going to become hams. It has
always been that way and will always be that way.

No, not all people well get into amateur radio, but unless you can come up with new idea's the service will die.

Not even a significant segment of "all people" has ever been a part of
amateur radio. Do you see anything wrong with that?

I was talking to other amatuers about
this subject odd of the internet and agree that amateur radio will probably
die off in a few years.

Some people believe that we'll be ruled by a "New World Order" and that
they should start hoarding can goods and MRE's. That doesn't mean that
it is likely to happen. Your term "odd of the internet" might be a good
description of the folks who believe such things.

Many amateur radio operators can face the
fact
that amateur radio is slowly falling behind in technology and thus in
turn
is slowly dying off.

You've managed to dump a couple of false premises in one sentence.
You're wrong about technology and about amateur radio dying.

Oh really, what NEW technologies has amatuer radio come up with worth
getting into? Amateur are falling behind that's the truth.

How about defending one wild idea at a time before moving on to the
next?
You didn't write anything earlier about amateur radio coming up with new
technologies worth getting into, you wrote about amateur radio falling
behind in technology. It isn't. Individual people who happen to be
radio amateurs have often been on the cutting edge of technological
development.
"Amateur Radio" as a whole doesn't create technology. Individuals do.

Amateur radio will not grow if you can't get
people
into the service.

Amateur radio licensing numbers are near an all time high.

Not true, according to the statistics last year amateur radio went up and
down in the number of people entering the service. last month it was down by
over 1,000 people.

What percentage of 600,000 or so individuals is 1,000? Do you think
that
599,000 people is near an all time high number of American radio
amateurs?

You can drop the licensing structure down to nothing
but
no one will come into a hobby without dated modes of communication.

I'm too busy laughing at your sentence to give you a serious reply,
Todd.

Anything further on those hobbies without dated modes of communication?

Dave K8MN

"Dave Heil" wrote in message
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Todd Daugherty wrote:

"Dave Heil" wrote in message
...
N9OGL wrote:


How about defending one wild idea at a time before moving on to the
next?
You didn't write anything earlier about amateur radio coming up with new
technologies worth getting into, you wrote about amateur radio falling
behind in technology. It isn't.

OH REALLY, tell me what new advances in radio communication have amateurs
come up with in lets say last 10 to 20 years???

answer....NONE!!!



Todd



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Well, how many different ways do you want to be able to exchange signal
reports and WX, or God forbid, information bulletins? How many
positions do you want on the old MODE switch? The point is, try
exchanging something useful or interesting rather than worrying about
how the information is exchanged. You aren't going to get an
interested audience for your 'information bulletins,' either, because
you have nothing useful to convey, so give it up. You are just going
to make enemies and take up space like K1MAN. Originally you planned
to do your broadcast on 10 meters at 9 PM. At that time of night, no
one beyond about 10 miles is going to hear you. That, right there,
demonstrates your knowledge of radio and propagation. Only a freaking
CBer would consider doing a 10 M broadcast at 9 PM. As for SSTV,
after you exchange a few poor quality pics of the OM, the shack, or
maybe the XYL's butt, what more do you do with it? You say that hams
should work to ADVANCE radio communications? WTF What is the next
step? DXing space aliens? ROTFLMAO

"Bathrooman" wrote in message
ups.com...
Well, how many different ways do you want to be able to exchange signal
reports and WX, or God forbid, information bulletins? How many
positions do you want on the old MODE switch? The point is, try
exchanging something useful or interesting rather than worrying about
how the information is exchanged. You aren't going to get an
interested audience for your 'information bulletins,' either, because
you have nothing useful to convey, so give it up. You are just going
to make enemies and take up space like K1MAN. Originally you planned
to do your broadcast on 10 meters at 9 PM. At that time of night, no
one beyond about 10 miles is going to hear you. That, right there,
demonstrates your knowledge of radio and propagation. Only a freaking
CBer would consider doing a 10 M broadcast at 9 PM. As for SSTV,
after you exchange a few poor quality pics of the OM, the shack, or
maybe the XYL's butt, what more do you do with it? You say that hams
should work to ADVANCE radio communications? WTF What is the next
step? DXing space aliens? ROTFLMAO

Well, I answer you first, then I'll answer your girlfriend who emailed me.
The POINT of this post is simple, Amateur radio is dying, for really two
simple reasons The first is amateur radio is falling behind to the
commercials. While amateur's get off on Slow Scan TV; Commercial services
are able to stream live audio and video over a short band space due to
digital compression. While Amateur's are fornicating themselves over 300 and
1200 baud, Commercial service with WiFi are able to go 1000 times faster,
ranging from 1Mbaud to 11.5Mbaud on the 2.4GHz band. And I could go on and
on. "You aren't going to get an interested audience for your 'information
bulletins,' either, because you have nothing useful to convey, so give it
up." That's Your Opinion I believe in the idea that a person should get the
information and disseminate it themselves. Unlike you who I believe has this
idea that this is a dictatorship and some moron and his little buddies on a
newsgroup, on the internet speaks for all the amateur radio community.
Secondly, you've never hear my broadcast thus, you assume that the
information bulletin is useless. Finally on that, unlike K1MAN who broadcast
24/7 I'm only transmitting for one hour once a week, a far cry from what
K1MAN is doing. and Unlike K1MAN I use a frequency that isn't in use and ask
three times "if the frequency is in use" So don't ****ing compare me to him.
That's why I orginally had it on 10 meters so not to cause interference,
unlike you who would probably transmit on top of people. I do have some
curiously something you and your little friends can't grasp. Which bring me
to the second reason amateur radio is dying. It's little toadies like you
who fear new things or something that is legal under the law and either find
the frequency they are running and key up top of them, or better yet go
crying to the FCC so they can supress that stations free speech simple
because you don't like what they are doing.

Todd,

I am a friend of Bathrooman. I have read many of your posts and it is
quite clear to me that you don't know what the **** you are talking
about. You don't know dick about amateur radio, and you can't even
write a sentence that makes any sense whatsoever. Why don't you just
go back to your shack and try to work some ham at 5 WPM in the novice
band. If that is too fast for you, slow it down to 2 WPM and see if
you can copy that.

Juilo De Jesus

Now I have a question you and this little friend of yours here, are you both
real amateurs or amatuer radio operator wantabe's who sit on amateur
newsgroup and think your important.

Todd N9OGL




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"Todd Daugherty" wrote in message
...

"Bathrooman" wrote in message
ups.com...
Well, how many different ways do you want to be able to exchange signal
reports and WX, or God forbid, information bulletins? How many
positions do you want on the old MODE switch? The point is, try
exchanging something useful or interesting rather than worrying about
how the information is exchanged. You aren't going to get an
interested audience for your 'information bulletins,' either, because
you have nothing useful to convey, so give it up. You are just going
to make enemies and take up space like K1MAN. Originally you planned
to do your broadcast on 10 meters at 9 PM. At that time of night, no
one beyond about 10 miles is going to hear you. That, right there,
demonstrates your knowledge of radio and propagation. Only a freaking
CBer would consider doing a 10 M broadcast at 9 PM. As for SSTV,
after you exchange a few poor quality pics of the OM, the shack, or
maybe the XYL's butt, what more do you do with it? You say that hams
should work to ADVANCE radio communications? WTF What is the next
step? DXing space aliens? ROTFLMAO

Well, I answer you first, then I'll answer your girlfriend who emailed me.
The POINT of this post is simple, Amateur radio is dying, for really two
simple reasons The first is amateur radio is falling behind to the
commercials.

You have yet to provide any proof that amateur radio is dying. You keep
saying it but that is hardly proof.

While amateur's get off on Slow Scan TV; Commercial services are able to
stream live audio and video over a short band space due to digital
compression. While Amateur's are fornicating themselves over 300 and 1200
baud, Commercial service with WiFi are able to go 1000 times faster,
ranging from 1Mbaud to 11.5Mbaud on the 2.4GHz band. And I could go on and
on. "You aren't going to get an interested audience for your 'information
bulletins,' either, because you have nothing useful to convey, so give it
up." That's Your Opinion I believe in the idea that a person should get
the information and disseminate it themselves. Unlike you who I believe
has this idea that this is a dictatorship and some moron and his little
buddies on a newsgroup, on the internet speaks for all the amateur radio
community. Secondly, you've never hear my broadcast thus, you assume that
the information bulletin is useless. Finally on that, unlike K1MAN who
broadcast 24/7 I'm only transmitting for one hour once a week, a far cry
from what K1MAN is doing. and Unlike K1MAN I use a frequency that isn't in
use and ask three times "if the frequency is in use" So don't ****ing
compare me to him. That's why I orginally had it on 10 meters so not to
cause interference, unlike you who would probably transmit on top of
people.

The 10 meter band was an awful choice. When it's dead, no one can hear you.
When it's open, you can interfere worldwide with a few watts of power.
Since one can often only hear one side of a conversation on that band, you
can interfer without knowing it.

I do have some curiously something you and your little friends can't
grasp. Which bring me to the second reason amateur radio is dying. It's
little toadies like you who fear new things or something that is legal
under the law and either find the frequency they are running and key up
top of them, or better yet go crying to the FCC so they can supress that
stations free speech simple because you don't like what they are doing.


What free speech has the FCC suppressed???


Todd,

I am a friend of Bathrooman. I have read many of your posts and it is
quite clear to me that you don't know what the **** you are talking
about. You don't know dick about amateur radio, and you can't even
write a sentence that makes any sense whatsoever. Why don't you just
go back to your shack and try to work some ham at 5 WPM in the novice
band. If that is too fast for you, slow it down to 2 WPM and see if
you can copy that.

Juilo De Jesus

Now I have a question you and this little friend of yours here, are you
both real amateurs or amatuer radio operator wantabe's who sit on amateur
newsgroup and think your important.

Todd N9OGL



Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Dee Flint wrote:

"Todd Daugherty" wrote in message
...

"Bathrooman" wrote in message
roups.com...

Well, how many different ways do you want to be able to exchange signal
reports and WX, or God forbid, information bulletins? How many
positions do you want on the old MODE switch? The point is, try
exchanging something useful or interesting rather than worrying about
how the information is exchanged. You aren't going to get an
interested audience for your 'information bulletins,' either, because
you have nothing useful to convey, so give it up. You are just going
to make enemies and take up space like K1MAN. Originally you planned
to do your broadcast on 10 meters at 9 PM. At that time of night, no
one beyond about 10 miles is going to hear you. That, right there,
demonstrates your knowledge of radio and propagation. Only a freaking
CBer would consider doing a 10 M broadcast at 9 PM. As for SSTV,
after you exchange a few poor quality pics of the OM, the shack, or
maybe the XYL's butt, what more do you do with it? You say that hams
should work to ADVANCE radio communications? WTF What is the next
step? DXing space aliens? ROTFLMAO


Well, I answer you first, then I'll answer your girlfriend who emailed me.
The POINT of this post is simple, Amateur radio is dying, for really two
simple reasons The first is amateur radio is falling behind to the
commercials.


You have yet to provide any proof that amateur radio is dying. You keep
saying it but that is hardly proof.


While amateur's get off on Slow Scan TV; Commercial services are able to
stream live audio and video over a short band space due to digital
compression. While Amateur's are fornicating themselves over 300 and 1200
baud, Commercial service with WiFi are able to go 1000 times faster,
ranging from 1Mbaud to 11.5Mbaud on the 2.4GHz band. And I could go on and
on. "You aren't going to get an interested audience for your 'information
bulletins,' either, because you have nothing useful to convey, so give it
up." That's Your Opinion I believe in the idea that a person should get
the information and disseminate it themselves. Unlike you who I believe
has this idea that this is a dictatorship and some moron and his little
buddies on a newsgroup, on the internet speaks for all the amateur radio
community. Secondly, you've never hear my broadcast thus, you assume that
the information bulletin is useless. Finally on that, unlike K1MAN who
broadcast 24/7 I'm only transmitting for one hour once a week, a far cry
from what K1MAN is doing. and Unlike K1MAN I use a frequency that isn't in
use and ask three times "if the frequency is in use" So don't ****ing
compare me to him. That's why I orginally had it on 10 meters so not to
cause interference, unlike you who would probably transmit on top of
people.


The 10 meter band was an awful choice. When it's dead, no one can hear you.
When it's open, you can interfere worldwide with a few watts of power.
Since one can often only hear one side of a conversation on that band, you
can interfer without knowing it.


I do have some curiously something you and your little friends can't
grasp. Which bring me to the second reason amateur radio is dying. It's
little toadies like you who fear new things or something that is legal
under the law and either find the frequency they are running and key up
top of them, or better yet go crying to the FCC so they can supress that
stations free speech simple because you don't like what they are doing.



What free speech has the FCC suppressed???

He made some wild claim a while back about all the FCC wanted to allow
was exchange of signal reports between hams. I asked him to back that
statement up with some facts but he can't do it. He is just a no-nothing
whinney college kid who doesn't have a clue.

"Dee Flint" wrote in message
...

"Todd Daugherty" wrote in message
...

"Bathrooman" wrote in message
ups.com...
Well, how many different ways do you want to be able to exchange signal
reports and WX, or God forbid, information bulletins? How many
positions do you want on the old MODE switch? The point is, try
exchanging something useful or interesting rather than worrying about
how the information is exchanged. You aren't going to get an
interested audience for your 'information bulletins,' either, because
you have nothing useful to convey, so give it up. You are just going
to make enemies and take up space like K1MAN. Originally you planned
to do your broadcast on 10 meters at 9 PM. At that time of night, no
one beyond about 10 miles is going to hear you. That, right there,
demonstrates your knowledge of radio and propagation. Only a freaking
CBer would consider doing a 10 M broadcast at 9 PM. As for SSTV,
after you exchange a few poor quality pics of the OM, the shack, or
maybe the XYL's butt, what more do you do with it? You say that hams
should work to ADVANCE radio communications? WTF What is the next
step? DXing space aliens? ROTFLMAO

Well, I answer you first, then I'll answer your girlfriend who emailed
me. The POINT of this post is simple, Amateur radio is dying, for really
two simple reasons The first is amateur radio is falling behind to the
commercials.

You have yet to provide any proof that amateur radio is dying. You keep
saying it but that is hardly proof.

While amateur's get off on Slow Scan TV; Commercial services are able to
stream live audio and video over a short band space due to digital
compression. While Amateur's are fornicating themselves over 300 and 1200
baud, Commercial service with WiFi are able to go 1000 times faster,
ranging from 1Mbaud to 11.5Mbaud on the 2.4GHz band. And I could go on
and on. "You aren't going to get an interested audience for your
'information bulletins,' either, because you have nothing useful to
convey, so give it up." That's Your Opinion I believe in the idea that a
person should get the information and disseminate it themselves. Unlike
you who I believe has this idea that this is a dictatorship and some
moron and his little buddies on a newsgroup, on the internet speaks for
all the amateur radio community. Secondly, you've never hear my broadcast
thus, you assume that the information bulletin is useless. Finally on
that, unlike K1MAN who broadcast 24/7 I'm only transmitting for one hour
once a week, a far cry from what K1MAN is doing. and Unlike K1MAN I use a
frequency that isn't in use and ask three times "if the frequency is in
use" So don't ****ing compare me to him. That's why I orginally had it on
10 meters so not to cause interference, unlike you who would probably
transmit on top of people.

The 10 meter band was an awful choice. When it's dead, no one can hear
you. When it's open, you can interfere worldwide with a few watts of
power. Since one can often only hear one side of a conversation on that
band, you can interfer without knowing it.

There's more room on 10 meters compared to say 20 meters secondly I ran my
information bulletin around 9.00, 10.00 pm. Finally, that would apply to
anything, a station on the east coast may be on a frequency and a station on
the west coast can't hear him. I think a statement in one of FCC rules books
which states "we can't eliminate all interference but you can minimize it.
You know unlike K1MAN and W1AW I have the curiously of NOT trying to
transmit over someone.

I do have some curiously something you and your little friends can't
grasp. Which bring me to the second reason amateur radio is dying. It's
little toadies like you who fear new things or something that is legal
under the law and either find the frequency they are running and key up
top of them, or better yet go crying to the FCC so they can supress that
stations free speech simple because you don't like what they are doing.


What free speech has the FCC suppressed???

if you haven't keep up I got a message on this newsgroup from one of the FCC
top Nazi, Mr.Hollingsworth.


Todd N9OGL


Todd,

I am a friend of Bathrooman. I have read many of your posts and it is
quite clear to me that you don't know what the **** you are talking
about. You don't know dick about amateur radio, and you can't even
write a sentence that makes any sense whatsoever. Why don't you just
go back to your shack and try to work some ham at 5 WPM in the novice
band. If that is too fast for you, slow it down to 2 WPM and see if
you can copy that.

Juilo De Jesus

Now I have a question you and this little friend of yours here, are you
both real amateurs or amatuer radio operator wantabe's who sit on amateur
newsgroup and think your important.

Todd N9OGL



Dee D. Flint, N8UZE





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"Todd Daugherty" wrote in message
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"Dee Flint" wrote in message
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[snip]

You have yet to provide any proof that amateur radio is dying. You keep
saying it but that is hardly proof.


You STILL haven't answered this question. Yet several people have asked for
this proof.

[snip]

What free speech has the FCC suppressed???

if you haven't keep up I got a message on this newsgroup from one of the
FCC top Nazi, Mr.Hollingsworth.


I've kept up very well. You STILL haven't answered the question. Yet
several people have asked you precisely what Hollingsworth told you.
Freedom of speech has never meant you could say anything you want where ever
you want whenever you want.


Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Todd Daugherty wrote:



There's more room on 10 meters compared to say 20 meters secondly I ran my
information bulletin around 9.00, 10.00 pm. Finally, that would apply to
anything, a station on the east coast may be on a frequency and a station on
the west coast can't hear him. I think a statement in one of FCC rules books
which states "we can't eliminate all interference but you can minimize it.
You know unlike K1MAN and W1AW I have the curiously of NOT trying to
transmit over someone.

And by using 10 meters the chance of anyone hearing you beyond any
ground wave is small, since 10 meters is open that often now.
I am amazed that you are in college, yet you can't construct a clear
sentence. My first grade granddaughter can construct a sentence better
than you can. Read your last sentence above and see if you can figure
out what is wrong with it.


I do have some curiously something you and your little friends can't
grasp. Which bring me to the second reason amateur radio is dying. It's
little toadies like you who fear new things or something that is legal
under the law and either find the frequency they are running and key up
top of them, or better yet go crying to the FCC so they can supress that
stations free speech simple because you don't like what they are doing.


What free speech has the FCC suppressed???


if you haven't keep up I got a message on this newsgroup from one of the FCC
top Nazi, Mr.Hollingsworth.


And just what did he say that limits your free speech?

There's more room on 10 meters compared to say 20 meters secondly I
ran my information bulletin around 9.00, 10.00 pm. Finally, that would
apply to anything, a station on the east coast may be on a frequency
and a station on the west coast can't hear him.


10 meters is useless during a sunspot minimum but it's a good place for
your useless broadcasts, especially at night when there is no
propagation - so no one can hear your useless rants and whining.


For your information dumbass I have an extremely high IQ.

High IQ compared to what? An ant? Where the **** did you learn to
write?

You know unlike K1MAN and W1AW I have the curiously of NOT trying to
transmit over someone.

I'll ask you again, where the **** did you learn to write? You are,
indeed, a special kind of nut case.