Dee, I'll go a little farther, No where in the rules does it state that
an information bulletin can be opinionated. The only thing the rules
state is that an information bulletin must be "amateur radio related".
Thus, anything outside that scope would be consider broadcasting. For
example, if someone one was to run an information bulletin about what
he thinks is a good antenna for DX and how to set up; it would fall
under the scope. But if Someone was to run an information bulletin
about what they think about the presidents economic plan, then it would
fall outside the scope of an inforamtion bulletin and fall into the
range of broadcasting. I not a gambler but I would bet the federal
courts would see it that way too.

Todd N9OGL


Dee Flint wrote:
"N9OGL" wrote in message
oups.com...



[snip]

The reasons that no one supports my inforamtion bulletins is the
small
minority of amateur radio operators thinks that information
bulletins
are illegal.
Todd N9OGL

Absolutely no one has ever said information bulletins are illegal.
So long
as they meet the requirements of Part 97 there is no problem.
However from
your description of the content, they appear to be op ed pieces
rather than
information.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

"N9OGL" wrote in message
oups.com...
Dee, I'll go a little farther, No where in the rules does it state that
an information bulletin can be opinionated. The only thing the rules
state is that an information bulletin must be "amateur radio related".
Thus, anything outside that scope would be consider broadcasting. For
example, if someone one was to run an information bulletin about what
he thinks is a good antenna for DX and how to set up; it would fall
under the scope. But if Someone was to run an information bulletin
about what they think about the presidents economic plan, then it would
fall outside the scope of an inforamtion bulletin and fall into the
range of broadcasting. I not a gambler but I would bet the federal
courts would see it that way too.

Todd N9OGL



Everyone would agree that information on what is a good antenna for DX or or
government rulings on antennas would be within the scope of Part 97. And
everyone would agree that a piece on the president's economic plan is
outside the scope. No one has ever said otherwise.

However an editorial on what you think hams should be doing quite possibly
may not classify as information. There's little in an editorial piece that
is of use to hams. Although editorials are derived from facts, they
themselves are not intended to convey information.

The other item that makes things look bad is that from your posts, it
appears as if you are using the ham bands because you were turned down for a
broadcast license. Even if you restrict your content to Part 97 to keep it
legal, it looks as if your interest is broadcasting rather than ham radio.
So why bother? It's too limiting for your objective of being a broadcaster.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

I would disagree with you on that, Information is 50% facts and 50%
opinions; You can get information from facts as well as from opinions.
like I said until I see a ruling or a rule that states information
bulletins can not be opinonated in my humble opinion they are legal.
Why bother what?? I did understand that last part.
Todd n9ogl

FROM THE FCC WEBSITE:

http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ama...ations.html#s3

One-Way Transmissions


Q. What types of one-way communications are amateur stations authorized
to transmit?

A. Section 97.111(b) provides for one-way communications. In summary,
auxiliary, beacon, space and stations in distress are specifically
authorized to make certain one-way transmissions. Additionally, an
amateur station may transmit the following types of one-way
communications:


Brief transmissions necessary to make adjustments to the station;


Brief transmissions necessary for establishing two-way communications
with other stations;


Telecommand;


Transmissions necessary to providing emergency communications;


Transmissions necessary to assisting persons learning, or improving
proficiency in, the international Morse code;


Transmissions necessary to disseminate an information bulletin; and


Telemetry.

Q. What is an "information bulletin"?

A. The term is defined in Section 97.3. It is a message directed only
to amateur operators and consists solely of subject matter of direct
interest to the amateur service. The control operator of the station
transmitting an information bulletin is responsible for determining
that the subject matter is of direct interest to the amateur service.

Q. Does an amateur station transmitting information bulletins have to
share the channel?

A. Yes. Section 97.101 provides that each station licensee and each
control operator must cooperate in selecting transmitting channels and
in making the most effective use of the amateur service frequencies. A
specific transmitting channel is not assigned for the exclusive use of
any amateur station. Section 97.101 also provides that no amateur
operator shall cause interference to any radio communication or signal.
There is no exemption for amateur stations transmitting for information
bulletins.

Q. Is broadcasting prohibited?

A. Yes. Section 97.113 prohibits amateur stations from engaging in any
form of broadcasting or in any activity related to program production
or news gathering for broadcasting purposes.

Q. Is there an exception to this prohibition?

A. Yes, there is one exception: Communications directly related to the
immediate safety of human life or the protection of property may be
provided by amateur stations to broadcasters for dissemination to the
public where no other means of communication is reasonably available
before or at the time of the event.

Q. What is "broadcasting"?

A. Section 97.3 defines the term "broadcasting," in the context of the
amateur service, as a transmission intended for reception by the
general public, either direct or delayed.

N9OGL wrote:

FROM THE FCC WEBSITE:

http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ama...ations.html#s3

One-Way Transmissions


Q. What types of one-way communications are amateur stations authorized
to transmit?

A. Section 97.111(b) provides for one-way communications. In summary,
auxiliary, beacon, space and stations in distress are specifically
authorized to make certain one-way transmissions. Additionally, an
amateur station may transmit the following types of one-way
communications:


Brief transmissions necessary to make adjustments to the station;


Brief transmissions necessary for establishing two-way communications
with other stations;


Telecommand;


Transmissions necessary to providing emergency communications;


Transmissions necessary to assisting persons learning, or improving
proficiency in, the international Morse code;


Transmissions necessary to disseminate an information bulletin; and


Telemetry.

Q. What is an "information bulletin"?

A. The term is defined in Section 97.3. It is a message directed only
to amateur operators and consists solely of subject matter of direct
interest to the amateur service. The control operator of the station
transmitting an information bulletin is responsible for determining
that the subject matter is of direct interest to the amateur service.

And your opinionated, pointless, ill-conceived broadcasts are of no
interestest to the amateur service, therefore they are not information
bulletins as there is no information of interest to the amateur service
in them.

First off you dickhead, you've never heard my broadcast and therefor
can't justify that statement. secondly that's your ****ing opinion, and
in my view you and your little butt buddies on here are a small
minority in the amateur radio service. ONE MORE ****ING THING, MY
PROGRAMS DEAL WITH AMATEUR RADIO ISSUES SO **** YOU!!!!

Todd N9OGL

Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
N9OGL wrote:

FROM THE FCC WEBSITE:


http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ama...ations.html#s3

One-Way Transmissions


Q. What types of one-way communications are amateur stations
authorized
to transmit?

A. Section 97.111(b) provides for one-way communications. In
summary,
auxiliary, beacon, space and stations in distress are specifically
authorized to make certain one-way transmissions. Additionally, an
amateur station may transmit the following types of one-way
communications:


Brief transmissions necessary to make adjustments to the station;


Brief transmissions necessary for establishing two-way
communications
with other stations;


Telecommand;


Transmissions necessary to providing emergency communications;


Transmissions necessary to assisting persons learning, or improving
proficiency in, the international Morse code;


Transmissions necessary to disseminate an information bulletin; and


Telemetry.

Q. What is an "information bulletin"?

A. The term is defined in Section 97.3. It is a message directed
only
to amateur operators and consists solely of subject matter of
direct
interest to the amateur service. The control operator of the
station
transmitting an information bulletin is responsible for determining
that the subject matter is of direct interest to the amateur
service.

And your opinionated, pointless, ill-conceived broadcasts are of no
interestest to the amateur service, therefore they are not
information
bulletins as there is no information of interest to the amateur
service
in them.

You really shouldn't post to the usenet after staying up all nite drinking
todd. It makes you look even worse!

"N9OGL" wrote in message
oups.com...
First off you dickhead, you've never heard my broadcast and therefor
can't justify that statement. secondly that's your ****ing opinion, and
in my view you and your little butt buddies on here are a small
minority in the amateur radio service. ONE MORE ****ING THING, MY
PROGRAMS DEAL WITH AMATEUR RADIO ISSUES SO **** YOU!!!!

Todd N9OGL

Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
N9OGL wrote:

FROM THE FCC WEBSITE:


http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ama...ations.html#s3

One-Way Transmissions


Q. What types of one-way communications are amateur stations
authorized
to transmit?

A. Section 97.111(b) provides for one-way communications. In
summary,
auxiliary, beacon, space and stations in distress are specifically
authorized to make certain one-way transmissions. Additionally, an
amateur station may transmit the following types of one-way
communications:


Brief transmissions necessary to make adjustments to the station;


Brief transmissions necessary for establishing two-way
communications
with other stations;


Telecommand;


Transmissions necessary to providing emergency communications;


Transmissions necessary to assisting persons learning, or improving
proficiency in, the international Morse code;


Transmissions necessary to disseminate an information bulletin; and


Telemetry.

Q. What is an "information bulletin"?

A. The term is defined in Section 97.3. It is a message directed
only
to amateur operators and consists solely of subject matter of
direct
interest to the amateur service. The control operator of the
station
transmitting an information bulletin is responsible for determining
that the subject matter is of direct interest to the amateur
service.

And your opinionated, pointless, ill-conceived broadcasts are of no
interestest to the amateur service, therefore they are not
information
bulletins as there is no information of interest to the amateur
service
in them.

--
Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO
Saw this on a Tee-shirt:
"I am a bomb technician. If you see
me running, try to keep up

First off you dickhead, you've never heard my broadcast and therefor
can't justify that statement. secondly that's your ****ing opinion, and
in my view you and your little butt buddies on here are a small
minority in the amateur radio service. ONE MORE ****ING THING, MY
PROGRAMS DEAL WITH AMATEUR RADIO ISSUES SO **** YOU!!!!

Todd N9OGL

Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
N9OGL wrote:

FROM THE FCC WEBSITE:


http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ama...ations.html#s3

One-Way Transmissions


Q. What types of one-way communications are amateur stations
authorized
to transmit?

A. Section 97.111(b) provides for one-way communications. In
summary,
auxiliary, beacon, space and stations in distress are specifically
authorized to make certain one-way transmissions. Additionally, an
amateur station may transmit the following types of one-way
communications:


Brief transmissions necessary to make adjustments to the station;


Brief transmissions necessary for establishing two-way
communications
with other stations;


Telecommand;


Transmissions necessary to providing emergency communications;


Transmissions necessary to assisting persons learning, or improving
proficiency in, the international Morse code;


Transmissions necessary to disseminate an information bulletin; and


Telemetry.

Q. What is an "information bulletin"?

A. The term is defined in Section 97.3. It is a message directed
only
to amateur operators and consists solely of subject matter of
direct
interest to the amateur service. The control operator of the
station
transmitting an information bulletin is responsible for determining
that the subject matter is of direct interest to the amateur
service.

And your opinionated, pointless, ill-conceived broadcasts are of no
interestest to the amateur service, therefore they are not
information
bulletins as there is no information of interest to the amateur
service
in them.

N9OGL wrote:
First off you ****head, you've never heard my broadcast and therefor
can't justify that statement. secondly that's your ****ing opinion,
and
in my view you and your little **** buddies on here are a small
minority in the amateur radio service. ONE MORE ****ING THING, MY
PROGRAMS DEAL WITH AMATEUR RADIO ISSUES SO **** YOU!!!!

There's five good reasons to put 10-penny nails in your coax.

Steve, K4YZ

What kind of booze made your head hurt this morning todd?
--
Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO
Saw this on a Tee-shirt:
"I am a bomb technician. If you see
me running, try to keep up

"N9OGL" wrote in message
ups.com...
First off you dickhead, you've never heard my broadcast and therefor
can't justify that statement. secondly that's your ****ing opinion, and
in my view you and your little butt buddies on here are a small
minority in the amateur radio service. ONE MORE ****ING THING, MY
PROGRAMS DEAL WITH AMATEUR RADIO ISSUES SO **** YOU!!!!

Todd N9OGL

Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
N9OGL wrote:

FROM THE FCC WEBSITE:


http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ama...ations.html#s3

One-Way Transmissions


Q. What types of one-way communications are amateur stations
authorized
to transmit?

A. Section 97.111(b) provides for one-way communications. In
summary,
auxiliary, beacon, space and stations in distress are specifically
authorized to make certain one-way transmissions. Additionally, an
amateur station may transmit the following types of one-way
communications:


Brief transmissions necessary to make adjustments to the station;


Brief transmissions necessary for establishing two-way
communications
with other stations;


Telecommand;


Transmissions necessary to providing emergency communications;


Transmissions necessary to assisting persons learning, or improving
proficiency in, the international Morse code;


Transmissions necessary to disseminate an information bulletin; and


Telemetry.

Q. What is an "information bulletin"?

A. The term is defined in Section 97.3. It is a message directed
only
to amateur operators and consists solely of subject matter of
direct
interest to the amateur service. The control operator of the
station
transmitting an information bulletin is responsible for determining
that the subject matter is of direct interest to the amateur
service.

And your opinionated, pointless, ill-conceived broadcasts are of no
interestest to the amateur service, therefore they are not
information
bulletins as there is no information of interest to the amateur
service
in them.