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February 19th 05, 03:24 AM

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Alun L. Palmer wrote:
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A tiny fraction of the number of countries which are members of
the UN and/or the ITU.

About 10% as a matter of fact. A minority, but not quite my idea of
a

'tiny' fraction. The point is, of course, that we are far from done
yet. Canada may be next.

One more out of 185 or so snore. Let's see here . . where's my
sliderule . . . if four "dominoes" per year fall, which is about the
current rate and the rate is maintained it'll be 2046 before the
last code test requirement is dropped.

Most of those other 170+ are pretty small, although you choose to
mention the big ones by name of course.

Of course, because first of all it's the big countries which set trends
at least regionally and it's their huge numbers of citizens who would
potentially be most affected by changes in ham radio regs. Which is a
whole different topic from the effects on their existing ham
populations whatever their number.

What you call Old Europe isn't socialist by any rational standards,
unless you are an extreme neo-con republican? I'll take that as a yes.

Don't because you couldn't be more wrong.

My point is that
governments make these kinds of decisions based on their
culture-based inclinations in such matters. Which is to say that the
former Soviets, Brazil, India and China are not socialist giveaway
swamps like Sweden, France and the rest and are far less likely to
quit the code tests.

Last time I checked France and Sweden were capitalist countries and
China was socialist.

They're both socialist Alun. The only difference being that China uses
the Marx/Lennin model and Sweden is the model for Old Europe socialism.

As for Russia, the old communists seem to be taking over again, albeit
they don't actually care what system they rule over, nor ever did,
IMHO.

Never in their thousand year history have the Russians lived in a
democracy or a capitalist society, their genes need to be conditioned
before they get their act together by western standards. In the
meanwhile they're suffering from massive startup lumps and bumps which
were predicted long before the Soviet Union actually imploded. Whatever
this has to do with code tests.

I'm sure it will be a great comfort to you if the Russian
Federation is the last to keep a code test. They are not my idea of
anyone I would want to emulate, however.

But emulating Sweden is OK huh?

n3kip

w3rv

Sure, why not?

BINGO: There it is. Old Europe. Sez it all.

Not in your lifetime Alun.

'Bye.

w3rv

We have very different political views. I don't know how you would classify
yourself, but by European standards you are very far to the right indeed,
as by no stretch is Sweden a socialist country.

As for myself, I used to be a card carrying member of the Conservative and
Unionist Party in the UK, but I freely admit that I have drifted leftwards
since then, very likely as a result of seeing at first hand the huge social
inequalities in the USA.

If it's called being a socialist to think that the ordinary working man
should be able to get medical care without courting bankruptcy, then I
suppose that makes me a socialist, but if you actually look in a
dictionary, then you will see that I am not, and neither are the Swedes.

socialism // n.
1 a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates
that the community as a whole should own and control the means of
production, distribution, and exchange.
2 policy or practice based on this theory.
socialist n. & adj.
socialistic // adj.
socialistically // adv.
[French socialisme (as social)]

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