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February 22nd 05, 05:53 PM
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Alun L. Palmer wrote: wrote in news:1108745797.245365.147250 @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com: Alun L. Palmer wrote: wrote in news:1108665611.010471.49400 @l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com: But emulating Sweden is OK huh? n3kip w3rv Sure, why not? BINGO: There it is. Old Europe. Sez it all. Not in your lifetime Alun. 'Bye. w3rv We have very different political views. OBVIOUSLY. I don't know how you would classify yourself, but by European standards you are very far to the right indeed, I'm a centrist Republican a la Sen. Arlen Specter, a member of a disapperaing breed. Ted Kennedy is a right-winger by Old Europe standards. Welcome to America. as by no stretch is Sweden a socialist country. Blather. It's a country which uses it's outrageous taxes on it's few monster "capitalist" smokestack industries to hand out socialist entitlements to it's population on a scale unheard of in any other country. Entitlments being the heart of socialism in all it's forms. Sven the fender-hanger at the SAAB plant didn't "feel good" yesterday so he stayed home and watched the tube. No problem, he got paid anyway under Swedish law. SAAB plant payrolls are bloated by 20% percent per unit out the door vs. the U.S & Japan because 20% of the SAAB workers "call in sick" every day. Absolute fact. GM got stupid and bought SAAB mostly to save the marque otherwise SAAB would have died years ago but GM is now mulling a pullout to cut their losses. The outflow of capital from Sweden to other countries has been appalling, check out the numbers and why it's happening and what the Swedish government is doing to stanch the bleeding. I can no doubt go ten blocks around the compass from here in the suburbs of Philadelphia and find more businesses with ten or fewer employees than you'll find in all of Sweden. Why is that Alun?? Could it be that Swedish socialist economics stifles entrepreneurial capitalism which is the engine behind the astounding growth of the U.S. economy for over two centuries? Of course it is. As for myself, I used to be a card carrying member of the Conservative and Unionist Party in the UK, but I freely admit that I have drifted leftwards since then, very likely as a result of seeing at first hand the huge social inequalities in the USA. Certainly there are social inequalities in the U.S. The original Constitution plus it's Bill of Rights guarantees equality in all elections and in all courts in this country and nothing more. Translates into a system in which the fate of individuals depends on what they freely choose to do or not do with their lives. Those who choose to be slackers suffer the consequences they freely imposed on themselves so of course we wind up with "social inequalities" galore. By your leftist standards our system has too many freedoms. If it's called being a socialist to think that the ordinary working man should be able to get medical care without courting bankruptcy, then I suppose that makes me a socialist, but if you actually look in a dictionary, then you will see that I am not, and neither are the Swedes. See above. socialism // n. 1 a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the community as a whole should own and control the means of production, distribution, and exchange. Oh**** . . the second coming of Cecil and his friggin' dictionaries . . ! 2 policy or practice based on this theory. socialist n. & adj. socialistic // adj. socialistically // adv. [French socialisme (as social)] w3rv |
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