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Old April 13th 05, 12:06 AM
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I claim that your assertion that ARES is "dependent" on aging
men who can't/won't respond due to age/infirmity or are over
obligated
is misleading and untrue.

How is my opinion wrong?

Becasue there's not been ONE SINGLE INSTANCE when ARES or

RACES
has EVER refused or been unable to fulfill it's promised duties

for
any
reason YOU have suggested...Nor has there ever been ANY reason

they've
refused, period.


Kindly show where I've said they've refused anything, you idiot.


I'm not the idiot here, Brian. You are.


Wrong again. Is that lie #13? Why yes it is.

You were the one who started this off by insisting that ARES did
not have adequate human resources to fulfil their "duties".

All I have asked YOU is to show some evidence of YOUR examples

of
having ever been even remotely plausable or having happened in fact.

Especially today, after literally hundreds of thousands of

dollars
have been poured into ARES from Homeland Defense resources to provide
an even more comptetent operator.


Indeed. Spending money doesn't necessarily get results. There was a
report yesterday about Bill Clinton's "100,000 more Police" on the
streets. Hundreds of millions spent, a lot was squandered.

I've asked you SEVERAL TIMES now to show me JUST ONE

example
of
some situation where ARES was asked to respond to a situation

but
couldn't due to any of the criteria YOU cited.

Phil provided his situation.

Phil's situation has been covered. HE provided that.


He indicated that there was a deficit in the # of volunteers.


There was just a deficit in the way they were assigned.


Nope. They were employed according to the concept of operations.

YOU claimed that "unlicensed devices play a major role"

in
"emergency comms". I've asked your to substantiate THAT claim

with
some
sort of valid reference, but you;ve balked at that one, too.

Practically all first responders use cell phones. Cell phones

are
often how a person is initially notified that they are in an
emergency
period. The military relies on them quite heavily.

Cellphones are NOT unlicensed devices. YOU do not have to

have
a
licnese for it, but the entire cellphone net operates under

various
FCC
licenses. See "Common Carrier".

Also, when you first made your assertion, I asked you if you

meant
Part 15, Part 95, etc, and you said "Yes, of course". So...Still
waiting.


Wait away.


Just about exactly what I'd expect from a coward, Brian. Thanks
for not disappointing me.


You're very welcome.

You claim, I ask you to validate the claim. You refuse.

No
facts
= invalid claim.

If a fact isn't presented then the opinion is wrong? You da

man!

"I believe that ARES will not be able to respond to future
emergencies due to the greying demographic" is an opinion.

"ARES is dependent upon graying old men who can't respond to
emergencies" is an assertion.


Are those your opinions?


Nice try. No, they are not.


Then where did you get them from?

It really is THAT simple.

Steve, K4YZ

It really is quite simple to see that you claim people's

opinions
are
wrong. Then you start the "liar, liar" routine. It's all

archived.
Again and again.

And you still have not come completely clean.

You made "statements of fact" that were nothing BUT opinion.


You're the one jumping to conclusions, Steve. You expect

everything
that anyone says to be fact verified by Saint Hiram.


Nice fall-back to Lennie's rhetoric, Brian. Failing to stay
aheqad on your own you had to "run hom to Mama".

I made no "conclusions". I HAVE been asking YOU to substantiate
claims and assertions YOU have made that they may be better

understood.
All you do is dodge, deceive and try to blow it off by calling me
"nuts" for having dared to challenge you on YOUR claims.


You're nuts for lots of reasons. One of the reasons is that you
constantly jump up and down and call people liars for having an
opinion.

Now you're angry because I won't let go and am backing you into

a
corner to answer your own claims. Shudd've either ante'd up some
answers or just said something to the tune of "That was just my
opinion...I really don't have any facts to substantiate it..."


I owe you nothing. Nothing at all. If you don't like my opinions then
you can just not like them. Oh my, hope that wasn't too much tuff love
for you.

That I could live with as an honest answer. Instead, you've
treated us to months and months of deception and avoidance.


You have. Now substantiate the two statements in quotes above.

You continue to refuse to validate your assertions unless

you
are
NOW stating that all they were WAS opinion, and nothing BUT

opinion.

And?


"And" nothing, Brian...Is that all your "unlicensed devices",
"ARES", and other statements were? Unsubstantiated opinion? A

simple
yes or no will clear the whole thing up.


Nothing is what you'll get, Steve. It's exactly what you deserve.

However it's taken you MONTHS to get out from under that

rock,
which leads me to believe that this is your only perceived

avenuse
of
escape from your own silly mistakes and unsubstantiated rantings.

Steve, K4YZ


Steve, you're so full yourself. You make yourself into fool every

time
you start jumping up and down demanding proof and facts anytime
something you don't like comes up. Too bad no one is taking you
seriously, especially me. You make up stuff and keep making up

stuff
so you don't have to apologize for being such an ass.


Hardly, Brian.

You make assertions of fact. I ask you for facts to back the
assertions up. Then you claim I am "nuts" for having asked you what
the truth is.


I make comments. You are the one who must turn every comment into a
fact, complete with 8x10 glossies with circles and arrows. Too bad for
you. You're nuts.

If you'd take no other lesson from all of this than to learn the
difference between an "assertion", "Statement as fact" and how to
express an idea as an opinion, you'd have a far less tumultuous
newsgroup experience.


Sounds like you have a real problem on your hands. No one must comply
with your demands, especially me. The sooner you come to that
conclusion the sooner you can get a handle on your other problems.

sayonara, bb


Oh...?!?! You speak Japanese now? Gee...Your mentor seems to
always want to try and "ding" me for calling him a "putz" due to his
expectation that I don't speak Hebrew. Please...Tell us all about

your
experiences in Japan and your fluency in Kanjii.

Steve, K4YZ


I have no skill in the Japanese language. Thanks for straightening me
out that "sayonara" is the Japanese equivalent of the Yiddish word for
"penis." I'm shocked to think that all those JA's were were repeating
the word "penis" over and over again on the air. And I always thought
they were the most polite amateurs.

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Old April 13th 05, 01:37 AM
 
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From: Brian Burke on Apr 12, 4:06 pm

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:



I made no "conclusions". I HAVE been asking YOU to

substantiate
claims and assertions YOU have made that they may be better

understood.
All you do is dodge, deceive and try to blow it off by calling me
"nuts" for having dared to challenge you on YOUR claims.


You're nuts for lots of reasons. One of the reasons is that you
constantly jump up and down and call people liars for having an
opinion.


Tsk. True enough. Psycho in some form there...



"And" nothing, Brian...Is that all your "unlicensed devices",
"ARES", and other statements were? Unsubstantiated opinion? A

simple
yes or no will clear the whole thing up.


Nothing is what you'll get, Steve. It's exactly what you deserve.


Again, true enough.

Like Jimmie (Who?) he bulldozes molehills into mountains...


You make assertions of fact. I ask you for facts to back the
assertions up. Then you claim I am "nuts" for having asked you what


the truth is.


I make comments. You are the one who must turn every comment into a
fact, complete with 8x10 glossies with circles and arrows. Too bad

for
you. You're nuts.


Stebie be some kind of psycho, for sure...

WE still don't know the When and Where of his infamous
"seven hostile actions." :-)

WE haven't seen one thing where Stebie admits that DoD
does indeed DIRECT all of MARS. Tsk, tsk. Even when
the specific directive is given to point it out to him.

If you'd take no other lesson from all of this than to learn

the
difference between an "assertion", "Statement as fact" and how to
express an idea as an opinion, you'd have a far less tumultuous
newsgroup experience.


Sounds like you have a real problem on your hands. No one must comply


with your demands, especially me. The sooner you come to that
conclusion the sooner you can get a handle on your other problems.


Stebieland does NOT have problems. Poor Stebie doesn't
understand that REALITY is NOT Stebieland. In Stebieland
there are ONLY Stebietruths and whatever Stebie thinks IS
the truth...all not in agreement with that are "LIARS!"


I have no skill in the Japanese language. Thanks for straightening me


out that "sayonara" is the Japanese equivalent of the Yiddish word for


"penis." I'm shocked to think that all those JA's were were repeating


the word "penis" over and over again on the air. And I always thought


they were the most polite amateurs.


Actually, In YIDDISH (not "Hebrew" as Stebie thought), the
word "putz" is used as a pejorative meaning "head/mind is in
his penis." In other words, a HIGHLY uncomplimentary nasty
word that Schmuck Stebie has used soooooooo many times. [ALL
archived on Google...surprise, surprise! :-) ]

Stebie does a tour on Okinawa and thinks he was "in Japan."
Problem is that Okinawans do NOT refer to themselves as
"Japanese" in the strictest sense of the word. Never let
little details worry lil Stebie. :-)

Hai, wakarimas... ["yes, we understand" in conversational
Japanese]



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Old April 13th 05, 07:33 AM
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From: Brian Burke on Apr 12, 4:06 pm


I have no skill in the Japanese language. Thanks for straightening

me
out that "sayonara" is the Japanese equivalent of the Yiddish word

for
"penis." I'm shocked to think that all those JA's were were

repeating
the word "penis" over and over again on the air. And I always

thought
they were the most polite amateurs.


They are. But the point is you don't know Japanese, yet you feel
it's "OK" to say Japanese words in non-Japanese conversation. You and
Lennie don't seem to have the same opinions on word useage when
non-Lennites are involved in the act.

Stebie does a tour on Okinawa and thinks he was "in Japan."


I did SEVERAL tours on Okinawa, and yes, since 1972, Okinawa IS a
WHOLE part of Greater Japan. I had to stand and salute during evening
colors enough to know who's Anthem was playing.

Problem is that Okinawans do NOT refer to themselves as
"Japanese" in the strictest sense of the word. Never let
little details worry lil Stebie.


Too bad YOUR frame of reference is fron the early 1950's, Lennie.
I was last there in 1990.

The Okinawan's DO consider themselves "Japanese" in VERY strict
sense of the word. In all regards.

Hai, wakarimas... ["yes, we understand" in conversational
Japanese]


Glad to see you retained something else from your time in Japan
other than your ill-conceived embellishing of your own service record,
Lennie.

A phrase you used often when the JNP's directed you from the benjo
ditch back to your barracks, no doubt.

Putz.

Steve, K4YZ

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K4YZ wrote:
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From: Brian Burke on Apr 12, 4:06 pm


I have no skill in the Japanese language. Thanks for

straightening
me
out that "sayonara" is the Japanese equivalent of the Yiddish word

for
"penis." I'm shocked to think that all those JA's were were

repeating
the word "penis" over and over again on the air. And I always

thought
they were the most polite amateurs.


They are. But the point is you don't know Japanese, yet you

feel
it's "OK" to say Japanese words in non-Japanese conversation. You

and
Lennie don't seem to have the same opinions on word useage when
non-Lennites are involved in the act.


So the next time a JA gives me a "sayonara" I should say "good bye
penis?"

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Old April 14th 05, 04:22 AM
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So the next time a JA gives me a "sayonara" I should say "good bye
penis?"


No, That's for the next time you visit Lorena Bobbitt.

Dave K8MN


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Dave Heil wrote:
bb wrote:

So the next time a JA gives me a "sayonara" I should say "good bye
penis?"


No, That's for the next time you visit Lorena Bobbitt.

Dave K8MN


Is she accepting visitors, now?

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Old April 14th 05, 10:43 AM
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bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
From: Brian Burke on Apr 12, 4:06 pm


I have no skill in the Japanese language. Thanks for

straightening
me
out that "sayonara" is the Japanese equivalent of the Yiddish

word
for
"penis." I'm shocked to think that all those JA's were were

repeating
the word "penis" over and over again on the air. And I always

thought
they were the most polite amateurs.


They are. But the point is you don't know Japanese, yet you

feel
it's "OK" to say Japanese words in non-Japanese conversation. You

and
Lennie don't seem to have the same opinions on word useage when
non-Lennites are involved in the act.


So the next time a JA gives me a "sayonara" I should say "good bye
penis?"


If you'd like to, Brian. But on what antenna are you going to do
it?

And remember, if it's a JR6, do NOT say "sayonara"...They're "not
really Japanese" according to Lennie.

Steve, K4YZ

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K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
From: Brian Burke on Apr 12, 4:06 pm

I have no skill in the Japanese language. Thanks for

straightening
me
out that "sayonara" is the Japanese equivalent of the Yiddish

word
for
"penis." I'm shocked to think that all those JA's were were
repeating
the word "penis" over and over again on the air. And I always
thought
they were the most polite amateurs.

They are. But the point is you don't know Japanese, yet you

feel
it's "OK" to say Japanese words in non-Japanese conversation.

You
and
Lennie don't seem to have the same opinions on word useage when
non-Lennites are involved in the act.


So the next time a JA gives me a "sayonara" I should say "good bye
penis?"


If you'd like to, Brian. But on what antenna are you going to do
it?


I usually use a microphone to say good-bye or sayonara. The stock
microphone that came with the TS-690S is good, or the Heil headset. I
leave the antenna outside for radiating the signal.

And remember, if it's a JR6, do NOT say "sayonara"...They're "not
really Japanese" according to Lennie.

Steve, K4YZ


Cool. Is Okinawa a JA posession like Guam or Saipan is a W6 posession?

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bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
From: Brian Burke on Apr 12, 4:06 pm

I have no skill in the Japanese language. Thanks for
straightening
me
out that "sayonara" is the Japanese equivalent of the

Yiddish
word
for
"penis." I'm shocked to think that all those JA's were were
repeating
the word "penis" over and over again on the air. And I

always
thought
they were the most polite amateurs.

They are. But the point is you don't know Japanese, yet

you
feel
it's "OK" to say Japanese words in non-Japanese conversation.

You
and
Lennie don't seem to have the same opinions on word useage when
non-Lennites are involved in the act.

So the next time a JA gives me a "sayonara" I should say "good

bye
penis?"


If you'd like to, Brian. But on what antenna are you going to

do
it?


I usually use a microphone to say good-bye or sayonara. The stock
microphone that came with the TS-690S is good, or the Heil headset.

I
leave the antenna outside for radiating the signal.

And remember, if it's a JR6, do NOT say "sayonara"...They're

"not
really Japanese" according to Lennie.

Steve, K4YZ


Cool. Is Okinawa a JA posession like Guam or Saipan is a W6

posession?

You ignored the phrase "...according to Lennie".

Okinawa is a prefecture of Japan...a "state", just like Hawaii,
Rhode Island, or Texas is to us. They are very much a part of Japan,
CONTRARY to what Lennie would have other believe.

"Sayonara" is completely appropriate.

Steve, K4YZ

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Cool. Is Okinawa a JA posession like Guam or Saipan is a W6 posession?


Saipan is not/never has been a US posession.

73, de Hans, K0HB




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