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How to deal with SSB in the 40 mtr CW band
How are the rest of the CW operators dealing with all the SSB that is
showing up in the 40 meter CW portion of the band? Here it is the weekend and there's some contest going on and there is more SSB in the CW portion of the band then there is SSB in the SSB portion of the band. What gives with this? On HF I'm a 99% CW operator, only been licensed about a year and love CW, don't care much for SSB. But I'm starting to wonder why I paid $1800 for a Yaesu FT-1000Mk V Field as it looks like I won't be able to use it for what I bought it for this weekend... Help George |
"GeorgeF" wrote in message .net... How are the rest of the CW operators dealing with all the SSB that is showing up in the 40 meter CW portion of the band? Here it is the weekend and there's some contest going on and there is more SSB in the CW portion of the band then there is SSB in the SSB portion of the band. What gives with this? On HF I'm a 99% CW operator, only been licensed about a year and love CW, don't care much for SSB. But I'm starting to wonder why I paid $1800 for a Yaesu FT-1000Mk V Field as it looks like I won't be able to use it for what I bought it for this weekend... Help George For the 40m band, the rest of the world has very different allocations from the US. They are (for now) limited to 7.100 and below. However over the next several years, they will be allowed to go up to 7.200. What this means is that they other regions of the world operate SSB where we are limited to CW. Most of the time this isn't a problem but there are about 4 weekends per year where they do pretty much occupy the band. If you look around though, there will still be CW ops down in the 40m CW to work. Or try the old Novice portion from 7.100 to 7.150 as some of the FISTS members monitor a frequency in their (check the FISTS website for exact frequency) and you can pick up a ragchew there. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
Set "VFO A" to RX below 7100; tune around for contesters...
Set "VFO B" to TX on whatever frequency above 7150 that the contester announces he or she listening to... Plug in mic and have at it. My favorite solution - assuming that you have priviledges there - is to switch to one of the WARC bands and have a go. No contesting on those bands, and ops who are fed up with the QRM a contest creates will head there in search of a QSO of more than 15 seconds duration... |
GeorgeF wrote:
How are the rest of the CW operators dealing with all the SSB that is showing up in the 40 meter CW portion of the band? Here it is the weekend and there's some contest going on and there is more SSB in the CW portion of the band then there is SSB in the SSB portion of the band. What gives with this? On HF I'm a 99% CW operator, only been licensed about a year and love CW, don't care much for SSB. But I'm starting to wonder why I paid $1800 for a Yaesu FT-1000Mk V Field as it looks like I won't be able to use it for what I bought it for this weekend... Help George OK, so it is a contest week-end, by the beginnig of the week it will be over, I heard some VE stations in the US 40 meter CW allocation, they have a right to operate there on SSB, so relax and operate another mode for the week-end, your rig and you will both survive if you don't get to operate on CW for one week-end. |
GeorgeF wrote: How are the rest of the CW operators dealing with all the SSB that is showing up in the 40 meter CW portion of the band? Here it is the weekend and there's some contest going on and there is more SSB in the CW portion of the band then there is SSB in the SSB portion of the band. What gives with this? On HF I'm a 99% CW operator, only been licensed about a year and love CW, don't care much for SSB. But I'm starting to wonder why I paid $1800 for a Yaesu FT-1000Mk V Field as it looks like I won't be able to use it for what I bought it for this weekend... I'd take the radio back to the store. If all those filters and DSP aren't allowing you to carry on a QSO, I'd get rid of it. 73 Steve, K4YZ (Also A CW Op) |
"GeorgeF" wrote in message .net... How are the rest of the CW operators dealing with all the SSB that is showing up in the 40 meter CW portion of the band? Here it is the weekend and there's some contest going on and there is more SSB in the CW portion of the band then there is SSB in the SSB portion of the band. What gives with this? On HF I'm a 99% CW operator, only been licensed about a year and love CW, don't care much for SSB. But I'm starting to wonder why I paid $1800 for a Yaesu FT-1000Mk V Field as it looks like I won't be able to use it for what I bought it for this weekend... Help George A good CW operator can and does work through any and all QRM. Keep at it. Dan/W4NTI |
"K4YZ" wrote in message oups.com... GeorgeF wrote: How are the rest of the CW operators dealing with all the SSB that is showing up in the 40 meter CW portion of the band? Here it is the weekend and there's some contest going on and there is more SSB in the CW portion of the band then there is SSB in the SSB portion of the band. What gives with this? On HF I'm a 99% CW operator, only been licensed about a year and love CW, don't care much for SSB. But I'm starting to wonder why I paid $1800 for a Yaesu FT-1000Mk V Field as it looks like I won't be able to use it for what I bought it for this weekend... I'd take the radio back to the store. If all those filters and DSP aren't allowing you to carry on a QSO, I'd get rid of it. 73 Steve, K4YZ (Also A CW Op) I run my rig a 2.1 khz. That way I don't miss nothing. Dan/W4NTI |
"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message k.net... A good CW operator can and does work through any and all QRM. Keep at it. Dan/W4NTI Indeed Dan, using the best filter ever devised -- one's brain. CL - I filter, therefore I am |
Caveat Lector wrote: "Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message k.net... A good CW operator can and does work through any and all QRM. Keep at it. Dan/W4NTI Indeed Dan, using the best filter ever devised -- one's brain. CL - I filter, therefore I am AMEN Brother! .. . Given an engaged brain SSB signals become just another piece of the usual collection of ignorable crud any even half-decent low-band CW op can copy thru. THAT's the beauty of CW in a nutshell. w3rv |
GeorgeF wrote: How are the rest of the CW operators dealing with all the SSB that is showing up in the 40 meter CW portion of the band? Here it is the weekend and there's some contest going on and there is more SSB in the CW portion of the band then there is SSB in the SSB portion of the band. What gives with this? It's the CQ WW SSB WPX contest weekend and all hell has broken loose worldwide. It'll go away at zero Zulu Sunday nite. In the meanwhile go diddle on 30M to get away from 'em. On HF I'm a 99% CW operator, only been licensed about a year and love CW, don't care much for SSB. But I'm starting to wonder why I paid $1800 for a Yaesu FT-1000Mk V Field as it looks like I won't be able to use it for what I bought it for this weekend... Help The Field comes with factory-supplied 250 & 500 Hz filters of unknown parentage. You should be able to cut down the SSB sigs to something close to a survivable level with either. Maybe. But I dunno. I've never listened with a Field. But for certain they're not the best filters out there by any means. Click into: http://www.qth.com/inrad/yae_menu.htm For some really good CW filters for your Field. The 400 Hz 703-C is a good compromise between "SSB crud reduction" and missing ops calling you. I have it's equivalent in my little $1,250 FT-847 crapper and it WORKs. Take it to the next level and get yourself one of INRAD's 250 Hz 704-C filters. Might be a bit too narrow though. To each their own. You're new and in the right direction. Stick with it George, you're on a very steep slope of a learning curve (assuming you're not just another troll of course). It'll all come together eventually. George w3rv |
It may be even more of shock that ham radio operators are important
in their eyes only. Ham radio has been irrelevant for years, hams just have not realized it yet, and probably never will. "How come the young kids aren't coming into ham radio anymore."? duhhhhhhhh, anyone hear about Advanced Technology? 73, Rabbi Phil "Joe S." wrote in message ... For much of the rest of the world, 40 meters is 7.000 to 7.100. It may come as a shock to you but there are other places in the world where there are amateur radio operators and their bands do not always match up with ours -- 40 is a good example. -- ----- Joe S. "GeorgeF" wrote in message k.net... How are the rest of the CW operators dealing with all the SSB that is showing up in the 40 meter CW portion of the band? Here it is the weekend and there's some contest going on and there is more SSB in the CW portion of the band then there is SSB in the SSB portion of the band. What gives with this? On HF I'm a 99% CW operator, only been licensed about a year and love CW, don't care much for SSB. But I'm starting to wonder why I paid $1800 for a Yaesu FT-1000Mk V Field as it looks like I won't be able to use it for what I bought it for this weekend... Help George |
Rabbi Phil wrote: It may be even more of shock that ham radio operators are important in their eyes only. Ham radio has been irrelevant for years, hams just have not realized it yet, and probably never will. "How come the young kids aren't coming into ham radio anymore."? duhhhhhhhh, anyone hear about Advanced Technology? 73, Rabbi Phil Why do you subscribe to amateur radio groups if you hate hams? |
Well sir in Southern California, in the last year or so, we have trained
about 30 school kids who obtained their license. Donations have been made to set up complete Ham stations at the schools. In our repeater club there are well over 75 members age 25 and below. At our field day, we had two troops of boy scouts who got on the radio. Several went on to get a license. Ditto for the JOTA day (if you know what that is) The kids loved PSK31 - no internet they asked. How many youths have you trained ??? Well sir when theSAN DIEGO COUNTY was ON FI CEDAR FIRE LARGEST IN STATE HISTORY 16 dead, 2,342 single family dwellings & 383,657 acres burned I repeat 16 dead, 2,342 single family dwellings & 383,657 acres burned It was a disaster of unimagined proportions. I can assure you that Amateur Radio was quite relevant -- to the tune of over 500 Amateurs participating. Won accolades from local officials and the media. Are you a member of ARES or RACES ? Are you prepared for the BIG one that will surely come your way? Well are you? When the cell phones are out, telephone lines are toast, power is lost, you will wish you had a battery operated mountain top repeater. Ours was on battery power or portable generator power for 3 days after the commercial power was lost. Do you support such a repeater, are you even a Ham? Support Amateur Radio or rely on your silly phone - the choice is yours. You need to do some research before you blather out this stereotype nonsense. -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! "Rabbi Phil" in total ignorance wrote in message ... It may be even more of shock that ham radio operators are important in their eyes only. Ham radio has been irrelevant for years, hams just have not realized it yet, and probably never will. "How come the young kids aren't coming into ham radio anymore."? duhhhhhhhh, anyone hear about Advanced Technology? 73, Rabbi Phil How can any ham sign 73, after writing all this anti-ham BS |
"Jim" wrote in message ... Rabbi Phil wrote: It may be even more of shock that ham radio operators are important in their eyes only. Ham radio has been irrelevant for years, hams just have not realized it yet, and probably never will. "How come the young kids aren't coming into ham radio anymore."? duhhhhhhhh, anyone hear about Advanced Technology? 73, Rabbi Phil Why do you subscribe to amateur radio groups if you hate hams? If Phil is a Ham I'll bet he will be the first on the air when the disaster hits his area. His silly phone and internet of "Advanced Technology" will be deader than a dodo. CL. |
"Jim" wrote in message ... Rabbi Phil wrote: It may be even more of shock that ham radio operators are important in their eyes only. Ham radio has been irrelevant for years, hams just have not realized it yet, and probably never will. "How come the young kids aren't coming into ham radio anymore."? duhhhhhhhh, anyone hear about Advanced Technology? 73, Rabbi Phil Why do you subscribe to amateur radio groups if you hate hams? I am, so I do. |
"Caveat Lector" wrote in message news:roE1e.1260$k57.531@fed1read07... "Jim" wrote in message ... Rabbi Phil wrote: It may be even more of shock that ham radio operators are important in their eyes only. Ham radio has been irrelevant for years, hams just have not realized it yet, and probably never will. "How come the young kids aren't coming into ham radio anymore."? duhhhhhhhh, anyone hear about Advanced Technology? 73, Rabbi Phil Why do you subscribe to amateur radio groups if you hate hams? If Phil is a Ham I'll bet he will be the first on the air when the disaster hits his area. His silly phone and internet of "Advanced Technology" will be deader than a dodo. CL. You have the same level of comprehension skill as Hans. Kindly point out where I mentioned *phone and internet* in my posting? Then again, nevermind, it is beyond you. 73, Rabbi Phil |
Jim wrote: Rabbi Phil wrote: It may be even more of shock that ham radio operators are important in their eyes only. Ham radio has been irrelevant for years, hams just have not realized it yet, and probably never will. "How come the young kids aren't coming into ham radio anymore."? duhhhhhhhh, anyone hear about Advanced Technology? 73, Rabbi Phil Why do you subscribe to amateur radio groups if you hate hams? Because he has nothing better to do with his life or with Advanced Technology. w3rv |
"Caveat Lector" wrote in message news:qoE1e.1259$k57.360@fed1read07... Well sir in Southern California, in the last year or so, we have trained about 30 school kids who obtained their license. Donations have been made to set up complete Ham stations at the schools. In our repeater club there are well over 75 members age 25 and below. At our field day, we had two troops of boy scouts who got on the radio. Several went on to get a license. Ditto for the JOTA day (if you know what that is) The kids loved PSK31 - no internet they asked. How many youths have you trained ??? Well sir when theSAN DIEGO COUNTY was ON FI CEDAR FIRE LARGEST IN STATE HISTORY 16 dead, 2,342 single family dwellings & 383,657 acres burned I repeat 16 dead, 2,342 single family dwellings & 383,657 acres burned It was a disaster of unimagined proportions. I can assure you that Amateur Radio was quite relevant -- to the tune of over 500 Amateurs participating. Won accolades from local officials and the media. Are you a member of ARES or RACES ? Are you prepared for the BIG one that will surely come your way? Well are you? When the cell phones are out, telephone lines are toast, power is lost, you will wish you had a battery operated mountain top repeater. Ours was on battery power or portable generator power for 3 days after the commercial power was lost. Do you support such a repeater, are you even a Ham? Support Amateur Radio or rely on your silly phone - the choice is yours. You need to do some research before you blather out this stereotype nonsense. -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! "Rabbi Phil" in total ignorance wrote in message ... It may be even more of shock that ham radio operators are important in their eyes only. Ham radio has been irrelevant for years, hams just have not realized it yet, and probably never will. "How come the young kids aren't coming into ham radio anymore."? duhhhhhhhh, anyone hear about Advanced Technology? 73, Rabbi Phil How can any ham sign 73, after writing all this anti-ham BS There is a "Psychiatrist-To-Hams who sometimes visits here. You should strive to set an appointment with him at your earliest. 73, Rabbi Phil |
wrote in message oups.com... Jim wrote: Rabbi Phil wrote: It may be even more of shock that ham radio operators are important in their eyes only. Ham radio has been irrelevant for years, hams just have not realized it yet, and probably never will. "How come the young kids aren't coming into ham radio anymore."? duhhhhhhhh, anyone hear about Advanced Technology? 73, Rabbi Phil Why do you subscribe to amateur radio groups if you hate hams? Because he has nothing better to do with his life or with Advanced Technology. w3rv Profound! Perhaps you can assist Hans with his reading & comprehension skills. |
Rabbi Phil wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Jim wrote: Rabbi Phil wrote: It may be even more of shock that ham radio operators are important in their eyes only. Ham radio has been irrelevant for years, hams just have not realized it yet, and probably never will. "How come the young kids aren't coming into ham radio anymore."? duhhhhhhhh, anyone hear about Advanced Technology? 73, Rabbi Phil Why do you subscribe to amateur radio groups if you hate hams? Because he has nothing better to do with his life or with Advanced Technology. w3rv Profound! Perhaps you can assist Hans with his reading & comprehension=20 skills. sigh snore=B2=20 w3rv |
" "Rabbi Phil" in total ignorance wrote in message ... It may be even more of shock that ham radio operators are important in their eyes only. Ham radio has been irrelevant for years, hams just have not realized it yet, and probably never will. "How come the young kids aren't coming into ham radio anymore."? duhhhhhhhh, anyone hear about Advanced Technology? CL replied; You need to do some research before you blather out this stereotype nonsense. There is a "Psychiatrist-To-Hams who sometimes visits here. You should strive to set an appointment with him at your earliest. 73, Rabbi Phil But my good sir, I am a Psychiatrist. Now to continue -- when did you first start to hate Hams? CL |
"Caveat Lector" wrote in message news:YxV1e.1882$k57.1275@fed1read07... " "Rabbi Phil" in total ignorance wrote in message ... It may be even more of shock that ham radio operators are important in their eyes only. Ham radio has been irrelevant for years, hams just have not realized it yet, and probably never will. "How come the young kids aren't coming into ham radio anymore."? duhhhhhhhh, anyone hear about Advanced Technology? CL replied; You need to do some research before you blather out this stereotype nonsense. There is a "Psychiatrist-To-Hams who sometimes visits here. You should strive to set an appointment with him at your earliest. 73, Rabbi Phil But my good sir, I am a Psychiatrist. Now to continue -- when did you first start to hate Hams? CL You should really learn to control your temper. 73, Rabbi Phil |
"Caveat Lector" wrote in message news:YxV1e.1882$k57.1275@fed1read07... " "Rabbi Phil" in total ignorance wrote in message ... It may be even more of shock that ham radio operators are important in their eyes only. Ham radio has been irrelevant for years, hams just have not realized it yet, and probably never will. "How come the young kids aren't coming into ham radio anymore."? duhhhhhhhh, anyone hear about Advanced Technology? CL replied; You need to do some research before you blather out this stereotype nonsense. There is a "Psychiatrist-To-Hams who sometimes visits here. You should strive to set an appointment with him at your earliest. 73, Rabbi Phil But my good sir, I am a Psychiatrist. Now to continue -- when did you first start to hate Hams? CL Probably when he found out he couldn't muster what it took to pass an exam! I've seen quite a few of them. The "hand it to me" types. Afraid to put forth a little effort in life. I knew a lady once who bombed a test like 3 times, blamed everyone but herself. It wasn't our fault she didn't study or was too slow to be able to comprehend the material. cl |
wrote in message ups.com... Caveat Lector wrote: "Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message k.net... A good CW operator can and does work through any and all QRM. Keep at it. Dan/W4NTI Indeed Dan, using the best filter ever devised -- one's brain. CL - I filter, therefore I am AMEN Brother! . . Given an engaged brain SSB signals become just another piece of the usual collection of ignorable crud any even half-decent low-band CW op can copy thru. THAT's the beauty of CW in a nutshell. w3rv That's a big R R R! The SSB problem also represents one of few times when an amp is useful when using CW. (The other times are - sometimes - in DX pile-ups & heavy QRN on the lower frequency bands.) ak |
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