"K4YZ" wrote in message
ps.com...

:
: And if you had paid attention to previous posts, YOU would know
: that we know exactly who the third person is.
:

Sorry, I missed that, and going back over the thread history I now see that
you have identified the anonymous person who privately threatened you.

Which raises the question as to why you and Mike (I'm still confused as to
how Mike is involved) didn't just reply to her (him?) instead of bore us
here with your one-sided diatribe. I thought the fact that she (he?) has
blocked your email must be the reason you need to use this medium to
communicate, but on examination that block seems after the fact. Maybe you
just needed to vent.

On the other hand, I still haven't ruled out the notion that she (he?) is a
phantom and you're just staging an entertainment for us here.

73,

M.A.N.
--
"I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord,
make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it."
- Voltaire

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:

Strangereer indeed.

You know, Mel, if that real but anonymous person had suggested in
his/her quasi-"private" email with CC's to Mike and who knows else,
that brick would fly through windows, tires would be slashed, and
wives
terrorized, I could see Steve Robeson/K4YZ characterizing the email
as
a threat.

Glad you brought that up, Brian.

Doesn't make me happy or sad. It's just a fact that you posted just
those scenarios. Maybe you thought you were giving some "friendly
advice."

You've claimed that I have made such threats.

If you view someone saying that they were going to forward your
comments to the very person that you made the comments about as a
"THREAT," I can only wonder how you might have reacted had that person
suggested that you might have your tires slashed, windows broken, and
wife terrorized (by other people, of course) all because your shot off
your big mouth?

Claiming to be ready to tell third parties that they were
"attacked" in a public forum when no auch attack occured could be a
threat...However no such "attack" was ever made.

So how is Jim? As it is only Mike stands with you. I wonder when he
will fade away, too.

I see Robeson posturing and pretending to be a victim himself.

I'm not a victim. I refuse to be one.

Bully for you (however misguided you may be).

That's why YOU can't get
away with your misrepresentations about Amateur Radio. I AM a
licensed Amateur, and such misrepresentations necessarilly include
me.

And I am a licensed amateur. My comments especially included you.

I refuse to allow you to lie about me.

That could only work if I were lying.

K4YZ wrote:
Mel A. Nomah wrote:
It get's more confusing every morning Brian. Now it appears this
"private"
real but anonymous person has threatened both Steve and Mike but
doesn't
have the decency to do it in public, forcing them into the
embarassing
position of publicly exposing their victimization without knowing
who
threatened them.

Neither of us were vicitimized.

Because the gunny stood tall! Or at least he sucked that gut in.

The person making the "threats"
didn't have the "stuff" to make the threat he claimed he would.

How do you know this?

And if
s/he carried out the intended threat, s/he would have looked sillier
than the quotes s/he was claiming to be inappropriate.

You continue to look sillier and sillier.

And if you had paid attention to previous posts, YOU would know
that we know exactly who the third person is. The comments were
discussed here since they related to an on-going post.

Just as I expected, no one perceived the same "impropriety" that
the un-named author did.

I did, and I said so. So your above statement is knowingly false.

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

Hey Mike...It's not THAT far fetched...Burghardt in NY
has
had
that
young lady in the tight fitting sweater for years...Musta
beem
selling
SOMEthing!

But not radios, huh???

Only radios.

Obviously "something" that radio sellers sell is radios.

So why make such an obvious statement?

You and the e-mailer have the same problem, Brain. A
one-track,
race to evil conclusions minds.

Bad thing to have.

And so you try to make others the deviants. Isn't working.

I don't make anyone anything, Brian. I may hold a mirror up to
them, but anything they "are" is of thier own doing.

You misunderstand. A mirror is being held up for you.

The sleazy nudge-nudge insinuation in your "Musta beem
seeling
SOMEthing!" comment is one of the lowest forms of attack I've
ever
seen
on rrap.

Not really, but it is true to Steve's style.

What style?

True enough in the usual sense.

I'll expect to see a sincere unconditional apology on rrap by
the end of today, or I'll consider forwarding your trashy
comments
to
Michele and Jim.

Unlikely.

Absolutely unlikely. The respondant was asked both here and
in
private e-mail to show where an "attack" or an intent to attack
was
expressed.

The respondant failed to do so...That being because there
wasn't
one.

The "attack" was the respondant picking a fight with me for
no
other reason than it WAS me making the comments.

I see no attack. (S)he asked you to apologize for an off comment.
I
certainly have no problem with that person forwarding your comments
to
the young lady and her father whether you apologize or not. You
made
your comments in a public forum, right?

I did. And why would I apologize for an "attack" that didn't
occur?

Maybe you'd like to have 30 minutes at the Dayton Hamvention
banquet
to
explain yourself, your view of how people are always
misunderstanding
what you say, and why you are the victim.

(1) I am not a victim

"(1.a.) I REFUSE to be a victim." Hi, hi!

(2) It seems there are only three people here who have a problem
with what I say, and that would be you, Lennie, and the person in the
e-mail. I'm not impressed that any "explanation" needs to occur.

Hmmmm?

In another post you said that no one other than the mystery e-mailer
saw any impropriety in your comments. So which time were you lying?
Then or now?

Now you say that other than me, Len, and that mystery e-mailer...

But I don't see Len posting on this subject. So are you making yet
another lie?

And what would you care anyway? You said you had other plans
much
too important to atttend Dayton.

You sound like a man who needs to clear his conscience.

You took offense...Too bad for you. You know as well as
I
do
that
people can "take offense" at the most innocent of comments
all-the-while letting morbid profanity and bold threats roll
off
thier
backs. This is one of those moments.

Have a nice day.

Steve, K4YZ

Innocent comments - hi, hi! Robeson likes to make inuendo.

The "innuendo" was the respondants.

If you call him on it, he'll try to turn you into the deviant.

What's to "call", Brain?

He's always the victim.

Unlike you or Lennie who always have to be a victim, I REFUSE
to
be
a victim. That's probably what grates your cheese.

I am no victim of yours.

I didn't say you were. I said that my failure to BE victimized
irritates (grates your cheese) you.

Not at all. I have no intention of making you a victim, and I want no
responsibility for your actions. You handily do the victim routine all
by yourself (see mirror).

You would have to matter for that to happen,and you just don't
matter.

Obviously not true, since responding to posts I make accounts
for
over 85% of YOUR posts.

What's your track record?

You simply have an emotional defect and you cannot help yourself.

What emotional defect, Brian?

The one you exhibit daily on rrap.

bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

I don't make anyone anything, Brian. I may hold a mirror up
to
them, but anything they "are" is of thier own doing.

You misunderstand. A mirror is being held up for you.

You're in denial, Brian...No problem...WE see it...You still haev
a ways to go to get better.

(1) I am not a victim

"(1.a.) I REFUSE to be a victim." Hi, hi!

I imagine you hear a lot of laughter, Brian....and not all of it
from kids playing in the yard or the "laugh track" on your favorite
sitcom.

(2) It seems there are only three people here who have a
problem
with what I say, and that would be you, Lennie, and the person in
the
e-mail. I'm not impressed that any "explanation" needs to occur.

Hmmmm?

In another post you said that no one other than the mystery e-mailer
saw any impropriety in your comments. So which time were you lying?
Then or now?

There's no lying involved, Brian, other than your attempt to
redirect the specific comments being made.

Nice try. Very transparent.

Now you say that other than me, Len, and that mystery e-mailer...

But I don't see Len posting on this subject. So are you making yet
another lie?

Nope.

I am no victim of yours.

I didn't say you were. I said that my failure to BE victimized
irritates (grates your cheese) you.

Not at all. I have no intention of making you a victim, and I want
no
responsibility for your actions. You handily do the victim routine
all
by yourself (see mirror).

You still say you're holding up a mirror, yet all the foolish
assertions are still yours and still unanswered.

You try to redirect, and I refuse to allow you. No problem.

You would have to matter for that to happen,and you just don't
matter.

Obviously not true, since responding to posts I make accounts
for
over 85% of YOUR posts.

What's your track record?

Oh, I make no "warranty" about what and how I post. I quite
readily acknowledge that I am quite ready to stand toe-to-toe with
those who are obviously lying, misrepresenting Amateur Radio, or
inisist on acting foolishly in public.

Thankfully that sub-group of ner-do-wells is fairly narrow. You.
Lennie. Todd. Mark Morgan. The fairly few number of anonymous
cowards who haven't got the guts or strength of conviction to stand
behind thier already lame game.

You simply have an emotional defect and you cannot help yourself.

What emotional defect, Brian?

The one you exhibit daily on rrap.

You've not yet defined or identified any "emotional defect",
Brian. That comes from a lack of understanding of the words you're
using and from a lack of training/education in any healthcare related
discipline from which to draw the requisite knowledge from.

Try again.

Steve, K4YZ

From: "bb" on Mon, Apr 4 2005 4:25 pm:

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

etc., etc., etc....

I don't make anyone anything, Brian. I may hold a mirror up to
them, but anything they "are" is of thier own doing.

You misunderstand. A mirror is being held up for you.

Heh. He can't see his own reflection... :-)

[...sort of a supernatural thing there...]


(1) I am not a victim

"(1.a.) I REFUSE to be a victim." Hi, hi!

Nursie is NEVER at fault...ALWAYS someone else's fault!

:-)

(2) It seems there are only three people here who have a
problem
with what I say, and that would be you, Lennie, and the person in
the
e-mail. I'm not impressed that any "explanation" needs to occur.

Hmmmm?

In another post you said that no one other than the mystery e-mailer
saw any impropriety in your comments. So which time were you lying?
Then or now?

Now you say that other than me, Len, and that mystery e-mailer...

But I don't see Len posting on this subject. So are you making yet
another lie?

Nursie NEVER lie! :-)

I haven't posted in this newsgroup for (about) 2 weeks.

Stevie da wonder ham is still angry, resentful, and
otherwise unglued about no one respecting his Dill
Instructor attitude for the past six years or so...:-)

"Temper fry?" Whoeee...temper be roasted to a crisp!


And what would you care anyway? You said you had other plans
much
too important to atttend Dayton.

You sound like a man who needs to clear his conscience.

First he has to HAVE a conscience... :-)


Unlike you or Lennie who always have to be a victim, I
REFUSE to be
a victim. That's probably what grates your cheese.

I am no victim of yours.

I didn't say you were. I said that my failure to BE victimized
irritates (grates your cheese) you.

Not at all. I have no intention of making you a victim, and I want no
responsibility for your actions. You handily do the victim routine
all
by yourself (see mirror).

The Avenging Angle is purely responsible for his own
actions...but, as noted, he can't see that in the
non-reflection (of himself) so, ergo, he is NOT
accountable for anything... :-)

It's ALWAYS "everyone else's fault!" :-)

Stebie has NO accreditation in accounting, by the way.
Without credentialed expertise in accounting, he
cannot account for it. :-)


You simply have an emotional defect and you cannot help yourself.

What emotional defect, Brian?

The one you exhibit daily on rrap.

1. He CAN'T see that...

2. Stebie is ALWAYS right, anyone disagreeing
with him is ALWAYS wrong...

3. This whole newsgroup seems to be all about
Hero Stebie Fighting The Forces of Evil... :-)

The original intent of this newsgroup was to discuss
amateur radio policy. It's turned into an sort of
professional wrestler arena of the old B&W TV days
where everything is about everyone doing battle with
everyone else on personalities... :-)

wrote:

From: "bb" on Mon, Apr 4 2005 4:25 pm:


K4YZ wrote:

bb wrote:

K4YZ wrote:

bb wrote:

K4YZ wrote:


etc., etc., etc....

I don't make anyone anything, Brian. I may hold a mirror up to
them, but anything they "are" is of thier own doing.

You misunderstand. A mirror is being held up for you.


Heh. He can't see his own reflection... :-)

[...sort of a supernatural thing there...]



(1) I am not a victim

"(1.a.) I REFUSE to be a victim." Hi, hi!


Nursie is NEVER at fault...ALWAYS someone else's fault!

:-)


(2) It seems there are only three people here who have a

problem

with what I say, and that would be you, Lennie, and the person in

the

e-mail. I'm not impressed that any "explanation" needs to occur.

Hmmmm?

In another post you said that no one other than the mystery e-mailer
saw any impropriety in your comments. So which time were you lying?
Then or now?

Now you say that other than me, Len, and that mystery e-mailer...

But I don't see Len posting on this subject. So are you making yet
another lie?


Nursie NEVER lie! :-)

I haven't posted in this newsgroup for (about) 2 weeks.

Stevie da wonder ham is still angry, resentful, and
otherwise unglued about no one respecting his Dill
Instructor attitude for the past six years or so...:-)

"Temper fry?" Whoeee...temper be roasted to a crisp!



And what would you care anyway? You said you had other plans

much

too important to atttend Dayton.

You sound like a man who needs to clear his conscience.


First he has to HAVE a conscience... :-)



Unlike you or Lennie who always have to be a victim, I

REFUSE to be

a victim. That's probably what grates your cheese.

I am no victim of yours.

I didn't say you were. I said that my failure to BE victimized
irritates (grates your cheese) you.

Not at all. I have no intention of making you a victim, and I want no
responsibility for your actions. You handily do the victim routine

all

by yourself (see mirror).


The Avenging Angle is purely responsible for his own
actions...but, as noted, he can't see that in the
non-reflection (of himself) so, ergo, he is NOT
accountable for anything... :-)

It's ALWAYS "everyone else's fault!" :-)

Stebie has NO accreditation in accounting, by the way.
Without credentialed expertise in accounting, he
cannot account for it. :-)



You simply have an emotional defect and you cannot help yourself.

What emotional defect, Brian?

The one you exhibit daily on rrap.


1. He CAN'T see that...

2. Stebie is ALWAYS right, anyone disagreeing
with him is ALWAYS wrong...

3. This whole newsgroup seems to be all about
Hero Stebie Fighting The Forces of Evil... :-)

The original intent of this newsgroup was to discuss
amateur radio policy. It's turned into an sort of
professional wrestler arena of the old B&W TV days
where everything is about everyone doing battle with
everyone else on personalities... :-)




Len, why do you talk like a two year old?

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

I don't make anyone anything, Brian. I may hold a mirror up
to
them, but anything they "are" is of thier own doing.

You misunderstand. A mirror is being held up for you.

You're in denial, Brian...No problem...WE see it...

Who? You and you anonymous "attacker?"

(1) I am not a victim

"(1.a.) I REFUSE to be a victim." Hi, hi!

I imagine you hear a lot of laughter, Brian....

That's how hams laugh.

and not all of it
from kids playing in the yard or the "laugh track" on your favorite
sitcom.

I'm not big on sitcoms. You provide enough comic relief for me.

(2) It seems there are only three people here who have a
problem
with what I say, and that would be you, Lennie, and the person in
the
e-mail. I'm not impressed that any "explanation" needs to occur.

Hmmmm?

In another post you said that no one other than the mystery
e-mailer
saw any impropriety in your comments. So which time were you
lying?
Then or now?

There's no lying involved, Brian, other than your attempt to
redirect the specific comments being made.

Nice try. Very transparent.

No dodge, plymouth, nor chrysler. You lied.

Now you say that other than me, Len, and that mystery e-mailer...

But I don't see Len posting on this subject. So are you making yet
another lie?

Nope.

Show it.

I am no victim of yours.

I didn't say you were. I said that my failure to BE
victimized
irritates (grates your cheese) you.

Not at all. I have no intention of making you a victim, and I want
no
responsibility for your actions. You handily do the victim routine
all
by yourself (see mirror).

You still say you're holding up a mirror, yet all the foolish
assertions are still yours and still unanswered.

You try to redirect, and I refuse to allow you. No problem.

Big problem(s). You lied. You lied four times. You lied about your
inuendo, you lied when you characterized the anon e-mailer as and
"attacker," you lied about all of it not being a problem for anyone
except your anonymous "attacker," and then you lied about Len's
involvement in this thread.

I wonder how many lies you'll tell tomorrow?

You would have to matter for that to happen,and you just don't
matter.

Obviously not true, since responding to posts I make
accounts
for
over 85% of YOUR posts.

What's your track record?

Oh, I make no "warranty" about what and how I post.

You couldn't honor the warranty when it comes due.

I quite
readily acknowledge that I am quite ready to stand toe-to-toe with
those who are obviously lying, misrepresenting Amateur Radio, or
inisist on acting foolishly in public.

Toe to toe?

Welp, you got called on your inuendo, you got called on characterizing
the anon e-mailer as an "attacker," you got called on your lying, and
now the mirror is being help up for you to see yourself as the liar
that you are.

Thankfully that sub-group of ner-do-wells is fairly narrow.
You.
Lennie. Todd. Mark Morgan. The fairly few number of anonymous
cowards who haven't got the guts or strength of conviction to stand
behind thier already lame game.

"Thier" lame game?

Look, you're the one playing off-duty COP on rrap. You've shot off
your mouth once too often and someone is now trying to get back at you
with vile comments about your daughter. You shot off your mouth again
about a young woman in an amateur radio advertisement, and some
anonymous rrapper called you on it.

You stand alone. No one supports your latest gaffe.

You simply have an emotional defect and you cannot help
yourself.

What emotional defect, Brian?

The one you exhibit daily on rrap.

You've not yet defined or identified any "emotional defect",
Brian. That comes from a lack of understanding of the words you're
using and from a lack of training/education in any healthcare related
discipline from which to draw the requisite knowledge from.

Try again.

Nope. I don't have to be a psychiatrist to recognize a nutcase.

wrote:
From: "bb" on Mon, Apr 4 2005 4:25 pm:

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

etc., etc., etc....

I don't make anyone anything, Brian. I may hold a mirror up
to
them, but anything they "are" is of thier own doing.

You misunderstand. A mirror is being held up for you.

Heh. He can't see his own reflection... :-)

[...sort of a supernatural thing there...]

American Wereham in London.

(1) I am not a victim

"(1.a.) I REFUSE to be a victim." Hi, hi!

Nursie is NEVER at fault...ALWAYS someone else's fault!

:-)

He'll say I "made" him do (whatever).

(2) It seems there are only three people here who have a
problem
with what I say, and that would be you, Lennie, and the person in
the
e-mail. I'm not impressed that any "explanation" needs to occur.

Hmmmm?

In another post you said that no one other than the mystery e-mailer
saw any impropriety in your comments. So which time were you lying?
Then or now?

Now you say that other than me, Len, and that mystery e-mailer...

But I don't see Len posting on this subject. So are you making yet
another lie?

Nursie NEVER lie! :-)

I haven't posted in this newsgroup for (about) 2 weeks.

It's making him crazy. He has no access to you. He's cold turkey and
using me as methadone.

Stevie da wonder ham is still angry, resentful, and
otherwise unglued about no one respecting his Dill
Instructor attitude for the past six years or so...:-)

"Temper fry?" Whoeee...temper be roasted to a crisp!

Newly recruited marines are sometimes discharged for non-adaptability
to military life. Steve should be put back in the Corps for
non-adaptability to civilian life. Let them deal with his lies,
assinine assertions, impossible delusions, and generally disrespectful
attitude.

And what would you care anyway? You said you had other plans
much
too important to atttend Dayton.

You sound like a man who needs to clear his conscience.

First he has to HAVE a conscience... :-)

Ooooh. I wanted to make a "brain" comment sooo badly...

Unlike you or Lennie who always have to be a victim, I
REFUSE to be
a victim. That's probably what grates your cheese.

I am no victim of yours.

I didn't say you were. I said that my failure to BE
victimized
irritates (grates your cheese) you.

Not at all. I have no intention of making you a victim, and I want
no
responsibility for your actions. You handily do the victim routine
all
by yourself (see mirror).

The Avenging Angle is purely responsible for his own
actions...

Everyone else recognizes that.

but, as noted, he can't see that in the
non-reflection (of himself) so, ergo, he is NOT
accountable for anything... :-)

It's ALWAYS "everyone else's fault!" :-)

"Brain made me do it!"

Stebie has NO accreditation in accounting, by the way.
Without credentialed expertise in accounting, he
cannot account for it. :-)

Everyone must have "Wallpaper."

You simply have an emotional defect and you cannot help yourself.

What emotional defect, Brian?

The one you exhibit daily on rrap.

1. He CAN'T see that...

2. Stebie is ALWAYS right, anyone disagreeing
with him is ALWAYS wrong...

3. This whole newsgroup seems to be all about
Hero Stebie Fighting The Forces of Evil... :-)

Only the evil genius played a trick on Steve. Steve is the forces of
evil.

The original intent of this newsgroup was to discuss
amateur radio policy. It's turned into an sort of
professional wrestler arena of the old B&W TV days
where everything is about everyone doing battle with
everyone else on personalities... :-)



WWF is still about personalities (if any of them had a personality).
Steve has one and it's defective.

bb wrote:

wrote:
From: "bb" on Mon, Apr 4 2005 4:25 pm:

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

etc., etc., etc....

I don't make anyone anything, Brian. I may hold a mirror up
to
them, but anything they "are" is of thier own doing.

You misunderstand. A mirror is being held up for you.

Heh. He can't see his own reflection... :-)

[...sort of a supernatural thing there...]

American Wereham in London.

(1) I am not a victim

"(1.a.) I REFUSE to be a victim." Hi, hi!

Nursie is NEVER at fault...ALWAYS someone else's fault!

:-)

He'll say I "made" him do (whatever).

(2) It seems there are only three people here who have a
problem
with what I say, and that would be you, Lennie, and the person in
the
e-mail. I'm not impressed that any "explanation" needs to occur.

Hmmmm?

In another post you said that no one other than the mystery e-mailer
saw any impropriety in your comments. So which time were you lying?
Then or now?

Now you say that other than me, Len, and that mystery e-mailer...

But I don't see Len posting on this subject. So are you making yet
another lie?

Nursie NEVER lie! :-)

I haven't posted in this newsgroup for (about) 2 weeks.

It's making him crazy. He has no access to you. He's cold turkey and
using me as methadone.

Stevie da wonder ham is still angry, resentful, and
otherwise unglued about no one respecting his Dill
Instructor attitude for the past six years or so...:-)

"Temper fry?" Whoeee...temper be roasted to a crisp!

Newly recruited marines are sometimes discharged for non-adaptability
to military life. Steve should be put back in the Corps for
non-adaptability to civilian life. Let them deal with his lies,
assinine assertions, impossible delusions, and generally disrespectful
attitude.

Don't you ever feel silly playing Len's game after his numerous posts in
which he inevitably claims that he is here only to engage in civil
debate over the removal of morse code testing, accuses others of
engaging in personal attacks and denigration and then proceeds to do
that of which he accuses others?

Dave K8MN