bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

I don't make anyone anything, Brian. I may hold a mirror
up
to
them, but anything they "are" is of thier own doing.

You misunderstand. A mirror is being held up for you.

You're in denial, Brian...No problem...WE see it...

Who? You and you anonymous "attacker?"

(1) I am not a victim

"(1.a.) I REFUSE to be a victim." Hi, hi!

I imagine you hear a lot of laughter, Brian....

That's how hams laugh.

Strange...When I laugh it sounds more like "hahaha".

and not all of it
from kids playing in the yard or the "laugh track" on your favorite
sitcom.

I'm not big on sitcoms. You provide enough comic relief for me.

The sad part, Brian, is that the laugh's on you. You just can't
or won't see it.

There's no lying involved, Brian, other than your attempt to
redirect the specific comments being made.

Nice try. Very transparent.

No dodge, plymouth, nor chrysler. You lied.

Cute. Still doesn't change anything. And no, I did not lie.

Now you say that other than me, Len, and that mystery e-mailer...

But I don't see Len posting on this subject. So are you making
yet
another lie?

Nope.

Show it.

It's in this thread chain, Brian. Help yourself.

You try to redirect, and I refuse to allow you. No problem.

Big problem(s). You lied. You lied four times. You lied about your
inuendo...(SNIP)

There was no "innuendo". There was YOU trying to make something
out of something else said.

(UNSNIP)...you lied when you characterized the anon e-mailer as and
"attacker,"...(SNIP)

I didn't say he made an attack, Brian. I said he made a threat to
forward my other comments to the family of the young lady whose picture
we were discussing. The word "attack" was the other correspondants,
not mine.

(UNSNIP)...you lied about all of it not being a problem for anyone
except your anonymous "attacker," and then you lied about Len's
involvement in this thread.

I didn't say Lennie was involved in the thread. Re-read what was
written originally, Brian!

Seems you and the anonymous lying coward have the same reading and
comprehension deficits, Brian.

I wonder how many lies you'll tell tomorrow?

None...So far, you've not shown where I lied at all, Brian.

You would have to matter for that to happen,and you just
don't
matter.

Obviously not true, since responding to posts I make
accounts
for
over 85% of YOUR posts.

What's your track record?

Oh, I make no "warranty" about what and how I post.

You couldn't honor the warranty when it comes due.

There being none, there is none to honor.

I quite
readily acknowledge that I am quite ready to stand toe-to-toe with
those who are obviously lying, misrepresenting Amateur Radio, or
inisist on acting foolishly in public.

Toe to toe?

Yep.

Welp, you got called on your inuendo, you got called on
characterizing
the anon e-mailer as an "attacker," you got called on your lying, and
now the mirror is being help up for you to see yourself as the liar
that you are.

I didn't make any innuendo. You injected your own opinion.

I didn't call the e mailer an "attacker".

Here are all of my comments from March 31st, the date of my
original post. For brevity, I have snipped everyone else's comments,
however you can easily cross-check the other thread to see that I have
not "edited" my own words, even for typos:

QUOTE:

Hello Everyone,


In the thread about " Selling 52 Simplex Radios", the following
comments were made by Mike Coslo, "Rabbi Phil" and myself:


QUOTE:
Michael Coslo wrote:
Rabbi Phil wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

(SNIPPAGE HERE)

Hey Mike...It's not THAT far fetched...Burghardt in NY has had that

young lady in the tight fitting sweater for years...Musta beem selling
SOMEthing!

UNQUOTE:

So...later this morning I received a private e-mail from one of
RRAP'S regular posters.

I have snipped the person's name, call sign and e mail headers
since the letter was sent in private e-mail. However the e-mail made
some very damning comments and a not-so-subtle threat.

QUOTE:

In rrap Steve Robeson wrote:

Burghardt in NY has had that
young lady in the tight fitting sweater
for years...Musta beem selling SOMEthing!
73
Steve, K4YZ

Burghardt Amateur Center is not in NY. It's a family business which
was established by Stan Burghardt, W0IT (SK) 68 years ago in a small
South Dakota town.

A few years ago one of Stan's long-time employees, Jim Smith W0MJY,
purchased the business from Stan and became the second owner. It
remains a family owned business, and the lady you mention is Jim's
daughter, Michele, KC0MYV, a wholesome midwesterner who is very active
in running the "business side" of the store. Often she is pictured
standing alongside her dad in their QST ads, never in my knowledge in a

provocative sweater.

The sleazy nudge-nudge insinuation in your "Musta beem seeling
SOMEthing!" comment is one of the lowest forms of attack I've ever seen

on rrap. I'll expect to see a sincere unconditional apology on rrap by

the end of today, or I'll consider forwarding your trashy comments to
Michele and Jim.

UNQUOTE

Here's my response to this "letter", made in a very public forum so

that the correspondant can't make any other assinine insinuations or
out-of-context editorializing:

(1) I stand corrected on the South Dakota -vs- New York. My
bust.

(2) I am sure the young lady is very good at what she does, and
is every bit the "wholesome" person you report. I NEVER said anything
to the contrary. You are welcome to cite the part of the post wherein
I said differently, but you and I both know it's not there.

(3) The young lady's character and wholesomeness notwithstanding,

THEY obviously had NO PROBLEM in posing her in a tight sweater,
profile, in order to attract some male attention to thier ads. "Rabbi
Phil" commented about someone else "selling radios" with pictures of
pretty women. I pointed out that another Amateur dealer had been doing

the same thing, and obviously it worked. Pictures of pretty women sell

everything from soft drinks to firearms to high speed automobiles.
Amateur Radio is no different. No problem.

Now, Dear Anonymous Writer (anonymous HERE...since you and I both
know who you are)...You can go RIGHT AHEAD and forward ANYthing you
like to ANY one you like. Tell them about "how trashy" the item was,
if you want, but it IS archived right ehre in Google.

You took offense...Too bad for you. You know as well as I do that

people can "take offense" at the most innocent of comments
all-the-while letting morbid profanity and bold threats roll off thier
backs. This is one of those moments.

Have a nice day.

Steve, K4YZ

UNQUOTE

OK, Brain...YOU show US wherein I called the anonymous
correspondant an "attacker".

Matter of fact, go back to the original thread and go through any
of the posts I made and find one where I called the correspondant an
"attacker".

Thankfully that sub-group of ner-do-wells is fairly narrow.
You.
Lennie. Todd. Mark Morgan. The fairly few number of anonymous
cowards who haven't got the guts or strength of conviction to stand
behind thier already lame game.

"Thier" lame game?

Look, you're the one playing off-duty COP on rrap.

What "cop"...?!?! The only thing I have "arrested" is the
promulgation of further lies, mistruths and assinine assertions by you,
Lennie and Todd. So far, while not 100% effective, it's worked.

You've shot off
your mouth once too often and someone is now trying to get back at
you
with vile comments about your daughter.

They are vile and speak to the character of the "author". He'll
get his eventually.

And you never acknowledge my thanks to you.

You shot off your mouth again
about a young woman in an amateur radio advertisement, and some
anonymous rrapper called you on it.

There was no "shooting" off of anyone's mouth. There was a
comment about how effective the presence of a pretty woman in an
Amateur Radio advertisment helps to sell Amateur Radio equipment.

Unless you know something I don't know about it, "sex" is a
multi-billion dollar selling tool. I can't drive the few minutes to
work without passing a half dozen biilborads that have beautiful women
and handsome men hawking some goods on it...

You stand alone. No one supports your latest gaffe.

So far, Mike Coslo made a statement that very celarly said that
the statement could be read as such. He was correct.

And so far, neither you, any of the anonymous lying cowards, the
original correspondant or Lennie have disproven otherwise.

You simply have an emotional defect and you cannot help
yourself.

What emotional defect, Brian?

The one you exhibit daily on rrap.

You've not yet defined or identified any "emotional defect",
Brian. That comes from a lack of understanding of the words you're
using and from a lack of training/education in any healthcare
related
discipline from which to draw the requisite knowledge from.

Try again.

Nope. I don't have to be a psychiatrist to recognize a nutcase.

But it would help. So far you've made countless accusations of
mental defect, but have yet to prove a one.

On the OTHER hand, YOU have made COUNTLESS assertions and
misrepresentations that you can't or won't substantiate, your LATEST
being the one that ARES can't/won't respond to any "major" emergency
due to alleged age, infirmity or previous obligations of the members.

Someone here HAS some issues to deal with Brian...But it's not me.

Now...THIS post asks you to explain several of YOUR "gaffes", and
provides SPECIFIC quotes that DISPROVE your silly allegations.

So how are you going to climb out from under THIS one, Brian?
Disappear for another couple weeks and hope we forget about YOUR lying?

Steve, K4YZ