bb wrote:
wrote:

Unfortunately, that's not the de facto situation with
message topics...which have ranged widely from the
(usual) bragging and self-glorification of individuals
to U.S. national politics and political figures to
choo-choo trains and other items in-between.

Where's Paul when you need him? He and his group did some fine
rescue
work getting the K0AIR call out of the hands of micreants like K4CAP.

The most recent holder of K4CAP never held K0AIR. So one has to
wonder what your point is, Brian...Not that there's ever any
meaningingful point to ANY of it...

It's just ENVY on Robeson's part because he's never
been IN electronics engineering in any way (a short-
term job as a purchasing agent doesn't qualify for
electronics engineering). He never got into military
communications handling despite having that vaunted
amateur radio license before first joining. He never
got to be any kind of military pilot despite having
a private pilot's ticket before joining. [we still
don't know the When and Where of those claimed "seven
hostile actions"...]

No doubt that inadequacy is at the root of his hatred for you.

You continue to insist that I ahte Lennie. I don't. I
understand him better than he accepts tht I do, and therefore make sure
that OTHERS understand him too.

Just like I do you, Brian.

and tries to use it as a semi-
perjorative. So few know the meaning of that Yiddish
expression (including himself), that he thinks he can
get away with it.

Welp, The Amateur Formerly Known As Reverend Jim doesn't seem to
mind.

Wondering who THAT is becasue there's never been an Amateur KNOWN
as "Reverend Jim" That I am aware of, other than in Lennie's
imagination.

What is curious is that Robeson cries/whines/bitches

and moans

about "civility" and use of "nasty" words, yet uses
them himself and is most uncivil in his remarks. See
the "complaint" he alleges he made to Google about
Todd (who has received far too many nastygrams for a
non-amateur-policy subject).

Steve has single handedly given thes rra.misc idiots a home on rrap.
Thank you Steve.

They'll soon move on and you and Lennie will have it all back to
yourselves...And it wasn't my doings, Brian...It was Toiddie's
cross-posted rantings, not me, that brought them here.

Please try to keep your "facts" (snickersnicker)straight.

He fakes "outrage"
that others would do such a thing to HIM! :-) On the
other hand, as the compleat hypocrite, he tells rather
bad, unreferencible LIES about others.

I started counting his new lies last week. He absolutely hates it.

I "absolutely hate" that you further humilate yourself counting
nothing, Brian. You have never substantiated the first alleged lie.

Sooooooo.....Zero is still zero....

retired (from regular hours) electronic engineer person

Oooh! You gonna get Steve all worked up over that last comment.

Why? He (Lennie) still has yet to provide us with so much as one
professional paper with his name on it. So Lennie's claim to having
been a "professional engineer" is vaporware.

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
wrote:

Unfortunately, that's not the de facto situation with
message topics...which have ranged widely from the
(usual) bragging and self-glorification of individuals
to U.S. national politics and political figures to
choo-choo trains and other items in-between.

Where's Paul when you need him? He and his group did some fine
rescue
work getting the K0AIR call out of the hands of micreants like
K4CAP.

The most recent holder of K4CAP never held K0AIR. So one has to
wonder what your point is, Brian...Not that there's ever any
meaningingful point to ANY of it...

Callsign collectors.

It's just ENVY on Robeson's part because he's never
been IN electronics engineering in any way (a short-
term job as a purchasing agent doesn't qualify for
electronics engineering). He never got into military
communications handling despite having that vaunted
amateur radio license before first joining. He never
got to be any kind of military pilot despite having
a private pilot's ticket before joining. [we still
don't know the When and Where of those claimed "seven
hostile actions"...]

No doubt that inadequacy is at the root of his hatred for you.

You continue to insist that I ahte Lennie. I don't. I
understand him better than he accepts tht I do, and therefore make
sure
that OTHERS understand him too.

Just like I do you, Brian.

You hate me too? OK, Mr Obvious.

and tries to use it as a semi-
perjorative. So few know the meaning of that Yiddish
expression (including himself), that he thinks he can
get away with it.

Welp, The Amateur Formerly Known As Reverend Jim doesn't seem to
mind.

Wondering who THAT is becasue there's never been an Amateur
KNOWN
as "Reverend Jim" That I am aware of, other than in Lennie's
imagination.

You know, the guy that trims out "W5TIT" but leaves in "Putz."

What is curious is that Robeson cries/whines/bitches

and moans

about "civility" and use of "nasty" words, yet uses
them himself and is most uncivil in his remarks. See
the "complaint" he alleges he made to Google about
Todd (who has received far too many nastygrams for a
non-amateur-policy subject).

Steve has single handedly given thes rra.misc idiots a home on
rrap.
Thank you Steve.

They'll soon move on and you and Lennie will have it all back to
yourselves...And it wasn't my doings, Brian...It was Toiddie's
cross-posted rantings, not me, that brought them here.

Please try to keep your "facts" (snickersnicker)straight.

Without you bringing him back for more with your incessant "demanding
of facts" etc, Todd would have dried up and blown away a long time ago.

He fakes "outrage"
that others would do such a thing to HIM! :-) On the
other hand, as the compleat hypocrite, he tells rather
bad, unreferencible LIES about others.

I started counting his new lies last week. He absolutely hates it.

I "absolutely hate" that you further humilate yourself counting
nothing, Brian. You have never substantiated the first alleged lie.

Sooooooo.....Zero is still zero....

Lie #12?

retired (from regular hours) electronic engineer person

Oooh! You gonna get Steve all worked up over that last comment.

Why? He (Lennie) still has yet to provide us with so much as one
professional paper with his name on it. So Lennie's claim to having
been a "professional engineer" is vaporware.

Steve, K4YZ

Is that more of your "facts," Steve? An electronic engineer must have
published papers. Hi! Be sure to tell that to Congress before they
let hundreds of thousands more of them immigrate to the USA.

Welp, we always did know that you don't know what you're talking about.
And them's the facts.

From: "bb" on Mon,Apr 11 2005 8:09 pm

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
wrote:


No doubt that inadequacy is at the root of his hatred for you.

You continue to insist that I ahte Lennie. I don't. I
understand him better than he accepts tht I do, and therefore make
sure that OTHERS understand him too.

Just like I do you, Brian.

You hate me too? OK, Mr Obvious.

:-) Stebie HATES everyone who stands up to him. :-)

Tsk. He probably calls Amelia "putz" as a term
of affection? :-)


Welp, The Amateur Formerly Known As Reverend Jim doesn't seem to
mind.

Wondering who THAT is becasue there's never been an Amateur
KNOWN as "Reverend Jim" That I am aware of, other than in Lennie's
imagination.

You know, the guy that trims out "W5TIT" but leaves in "Putz."

:-) Poor Stebie...still can't see others making
fun of him. The same thing is true for Jimmie, but
then he might be taking those testosterone
supplements...


Steve has single handedly given thes rra.misc idiots a home on
rrap. Thank you Steve.

They'll soon move on and you and Lennie will have it all back
to
yourselves...And it wasn't my doings, Brian...It was Toiddie's
cross-posted rantings, not me, that brought them here.

Please try to keep your "facts" (snickersnicker)straight.

Without you bringing him back for more with your incessant "demanding
of facts" etc, Todd would have dried up and blown away a long time
ago.

Quite true again. Stebie has to antagonizingly PRESS on
"everyone ELSE is always wrong" in the famous "big lie"
technique he learned from "Mein Kampf."



I started counting his new lies last week. He absolutely hates
it.

I "absolutely hate" that you further humilate yourself counting
nothing, Brian. You have never substantiated the first alleged lie.

Sooooooo.....Zero is still zero....

Lie #12?

...plus a thousand more before it... :-)



retired (from regular hours) electronic engineer person

Oooh! You gonna get Steve all worked up over that last comment.

Why? He (Lennie) still has yet to provide us with so much as
one
professional paper with his name on it. So Lennie's claim to having
been a "professional engineer" is vaporware.

Steve, K4YZ

Is that more of your "facts," Steve? An electronic engineer must have
published papers. Hi! Be sure to tell that to Congress before they
let hundreds of thousands more of them immigrate to the USA.

Stebie KNOWS ALL ABOUT ENGINEERING, Brian. After all, he
did work as a purchasing agent for less than half a year.
"real close" to those who were actually doing engineering.
:-)

Poor Stebie hasn't bothered to check the references I posted
in here, hasn't even checked with the hams I've named in here,
hasn't done a literature search other than ham publications.
I could digitize some of those papers and send them out in
private mail attachments...but Stebie would REJECT that just
as he did with my commercial first 'phone license scan. :-)
That's a waste of time. Tsk...I put up some memorabilia on
communications and radio relay on another's website, put
the web address in here, and NO ONE bothered to look.
Dave said it was a waste of time and couldn't be bothered.

Just so's w3rv doesn't chime in with that false argument
again, I am NOT a state-registered Professional Engineer.
I AM an electronics design engineer who works for money
and that makes me a professional person. I am a Life Member
of the IEEE, a professional association. I don't HAVE to
get up and go to work every working day...that's called
"retirement." :-) [sometimes that really ****es off
those who still have a mortgage and loans to pay off, etc.,
but we are NOT all in the same working situation]

Stebie is really working overtime on manufacturing LIES
about me and you and Todd and anyone else who crosses
him in here. Not surprising to me.

Welp, we always did know that you don't know what you're talking
about.
And them's the facts.

That's stating the obvious. :-)

wrote:
From: "bb" on Mon,Apr 11 2005 8:09 pm

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
wrote:


No doubt that inadequacy is at the root of his hatred for you.

You continue to insist that I ahte Lennie. I don't. I
understand him better than he accepts tht I do, and therefore make
sure that OTHERS understand him too.

Just like I do you, Brian.

You hate me too? OK, Mr Obvious.

:-) Stebie HATES everyone who stands up to him. :-)

Snip of usual regurgitated LennieStuff to:

Stebie is really working overtime on manufacturing LIES
about me and you and Todd and anyone else who crosses
him in here. Not surprising to me.

There's nothing "manufactured" about you, Lennie....Everything
that's been said here has been a direct result of information YOU
provided.

Sorry if that's a problem, but you did provide it.

You do lie, both about Amateur Radio in general and many of us who
are practitioners of that art. You've told us of things you'd do and
of things you've done, yet NO PROOF.

You taught Brian well...Just keep pouring the lies in to try and
further dilute the already muddled pool...Except that some of us can
stay ahead of your silliness and THAT is what YOU hate.

Leonard H. Anderson is a known chronic liar.

Steve, K4YZ

From: K4YZ on Apr 12, 6:04 am

wrote:
From: "bb" on Mon,Apr 11 2005 8:09 pm
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
wrote:


No doubt that inadequacy is at the root of his hatred for you.

You continue to insist that I ahte Lennie. I don't. I
understand him better than he accepts tht I do, and therefore
make
sure that OTHERS understand him too.

Just like I do you, Brian.

You hate me too? OK, Mr Obvious.

:-) Stebie HATES everyone who stands up to him. :-)

Snip of usual regurgitated LennieStuff to:

Poor baby...lil Stebie just CAN'T handle it...tsk, tsk.

Stebie is really working overtime on manufacturing LIES
about me and you and Todd and anyone else who crosses
him in here. Not surprising to me.

There's nothing "manufactured" about you, Lennie....Everything
that's been said here has been a direct result of information YOU
provided.

Tsk, tsk. You're going to say it is "all LIES" again,
aren't you? :-)

Is that all you "ahve?" :-)


Sorry if that's a problem, but you did provide it.

Provide WHAT? :-)

Poor baby...you couldn't STAND a short-form resume',
you thought it all some kind of "brag" exercise.
Tsk, it wasn't. It made you resentful and that
prompted your anger, hatred, and in-group attacks.

I've provided names and callsigns of those who know
me, but you have NOT contacted them. Instead, you
MANUFACTURE some person at NADC that claims to know
me...a decade after I'd been there and a PhD to boot
but NOBODY (but you) knows the name. :-)

I sent you a scan of my first 'phone license (the
very first one) and you would NOT look at it! :-)
Instead you manufactured a clear-libel "personal
page" on AOL damning me in no uncertain terms.
Fortunately for all concerned (except yourself), AOL
took it down as soon as they were informed. :-)

You do lie, both about Amateur Radio in general and many of us
who
are practitioners of that art. You've told us of things you'd do and
of things you've done, yet NO PROOF.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Here's the way things go down in
the rational world:

"Proof" is provided in the form of unalterable
third-party sources...things like employers, friends
(preferrably those that aren't within easy driving
distance to avoid collusion), publications, local
and national governmental records archives, some
place that is relatively easy to get at such as
Internet sites. [I've given you ALL those "links"
in here] The next step is for YOU to check out those
third-party references...or anyone else to do it, as
they want. That "proof" remains unalterable except
when a personal reference passes on (none of mine
have yet).

NO ONE MUST give YOU any "proof" of what they WILL
do. NO ONE can predict the future. :-)

In any event, you are NOT some kind of "judge" to
hand out any "ruling" on anyone, certainly not your
e-opponents. :-) You keep crowing that you ARE
one, but that is YOUR OWN LIE that you tell the
world. A LIE anywhichway it goes.

Now you MUST tell all about this former NADC
employee who claims to know me a decade after I
was there. You have NOT done so. You LIE.

You haven't told the Where or When of those famous
"seven hostile actions" you claim but won't reveal.
Tsk. You LIE and then give yourself a pat on the
back for imagining that to be "truth!" :-)

You have NOT acknowledged that the DoD directs and
supervises MARS, even when informed of the website
and full link details of the directive by DoD (as I
did in here).

In short, sweetums, like the infamous Colonel
Jessup of the film "A Few Good Men," you just can't
handle the truth! You LIE with impunity and then
accuse others of "lying" when they give details
and references. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

You taught Brian well...Just keep pouring the lies in to try and
further dilute the already muddled pool...Except that some of us can
stay ahead of your silliness and THAT is what YOU hate.

You poor psychoed-to-the-max thing. Brian is a
rational human being who can think for himself.
I didn't "teach" him anything in regards to being
rational. We've both observed you in detail and
came to the same agreement...you're some kind of
sick psycho who CAN'T STAND being opposed in
anything.

Leonard H. Anderson is a known chronic liar.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Not at all. You are SICK,
sweetums, and all you can do is make all those
personal attacks on everyone who disagrees with
you. You NEED some personal mental counseling
but you've obviously not gotten any. That's a
danger to yourself and your immediate family, not
to mention cutting down on all the hate and anger
your actions ignite in this newsgroup.

Try to keep focussed on the FACT that this
newsgroup is SUPPOSED to be about amateur radio
policy. It is NOT some kind of kiddie sandbox
that was created for Stebie to show his courage
in personal attacks on everyone who disagrees
with him.

wrote:
From: K4YZ on Apr 12, 6:04 am

I've provided names and callsigns of those who know
me, but you have NOT contacted them. Instead, you
MANUFACTURE some person at NADC that claims to know
me...a decade after I'd been there and a PhD to boot
but NOBODY (but you) knows the name.

Let's see....I "contact" some beer drinking buddy of yours who
you've already briefed on what to say and he'll tell me...what?

And The person I knew at NADC was an acquaintance of
mine...certainly no one who owed me any favor or would make up
something.

He has a REAL Doctorate in Electrical Engineering and HAS been
published. He has credentials that I trust. You don't.

I sent you a scan of my first 'phone license (the
very first one) and you would NOT look at it!

No, You did not.

You sent me a picute of a person "mooning" in the nose of an A-26.

It was among your many lies.

Instead you manufactured a clear-libel "personal
page" on AOL damning me in no uncertain terms.

It wasn't libel. The truth is never libel.

You sent an e-mail professing to be one thing, but it wasn't what
you said it was.

Your "shot" at gaining trust was itself "shot".

Fortunately for all concerned (except yourself), AOL
took it down as soon as they were informed.

The only one "fortunate" was you, Lennie. But then I've had
several years of rubbing your nose in your lies, deceit and mistruths
here to make up for it.

Nothing lost for me. Lot's lost for you. Like any chance at ever
being accepted for what you THINK you should be....

You do lie, both about Amateur Radio in general and many of us
who
are practitioners of that art. You've told us of things you'd do
and
of things you've done, yet NO PROOF.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Here's the way things go down in
the rational world:

"Proof" is provided in the form of unalterable
third-party sources...things like employers, friends
(preferrably those that aren't within easy driving
distance to avoid collusion), publications, local
and national governmental records archives, some
place that is relatively easy to get at such as
Internet sites.

I had all the "proof" I need, Lennie.

A third party with no allegience to protect. A man with a
professional reputation that I can bank on.

Unlike you.

In any event, you are NOT some kind of "judge" to
hand out any "ruling" on anyone, certainly not your
e-opponents. You keep crowing that you ARE
one, but that is YOUR OWN LIE that you tell the
world. A LIE anywhichway it goes.

I have never claimed to be a "judge", and I have very specifically
stated that you are not an "opponent". Ranking you as an "opponent"
would suggest you are at some level. You can only "best" me in
chronological years.

Now you MUST tell all about this former NADC
employee who claims to know me a decade after I
was there. You have NOT done so. You LIE.

He didn't know you "a decade after (you were) there". He knew you
WHEN you were there.

And I do not name him because I protect his privacy at his
request.

I have no reason to doubt his assessment or opinion. Your own
conduct, language, demeanor and conduct herein certainly give credence
to his assessment.

You haven't told the Where or When of those famous
"seven hostile actions" you claim but won't reveal.
Tsk. You LIE and then give yourself a pat on the
back for imagining that to be "truth!"

Nope. I take great pleasure in watching you run in circles with
it, Lennie. Very effective. Between that and trying to bite off more
than you can chew over MARS, you really have nothing left to do.

You have NOT acknowledged that the DoD directs and
supervises MARS, even when informed of the website
and full link details of the directive by DoD (as I
did in here).

Sure I have. I've said it several times over.

And I have ALSO said, and it reamins true today, that without the
Amateur Radio Service volunteers that flesh out it's ranks, none of the
three branches of MARS would exist in it's present form.

Without the "Amateur" component, there is no one to be
"Affiliated" with.

You taught Brian well...Just keep pouring the lies in to try
and
further dilute the already muddled pool...Except that some of us can
stay ahead of your silliness and THAT is what YOU hate.

You poor psychoed-to-the-max thing. Brian is a
rational human being who can think for himself.
I didn't "teach" him anything in regards to being
rational. We've both observed you in detail and
came to the same agreement...you're some kind of
sick psycho who CAN'T STAND being opposed in
anything.

There is nothing "rational" about adult males repeatedly and
adamandtly lying in public, Lennie. but the two of you keep doing it.

Leonard H. Anderson is a known chronic liar.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Not at all.

See what I mean...There's another one.

You are SICK,
sweetums, and all you can do is make all those
personal attacks on everyone who disagrees with
you.

You call me "sick" and "sweetums" in the same sentence,
Lennie...?!?!

That is sick!

And P L E A S E tell us ALL ABOUT "personal attacks"....

Would that be like the one you slung at Jim Miccolis in the "Lest
We Forget" thread this same date?

You NEED some personal mental counseling
but you've obviously not gotten any. That's a
danger to yourself and your immediate family, not
to mention cutting down on all the hate and anger
your actions ignite in this newsgroup.

You continue to infer that you have adequate training or education
in mental health issues to make such referals, however requests for
your credentials go unanswered.

And the only "hate and anger" my "actions ignite" in this
newsgroup are from folks who deem it necessary to chronically lie or
make up scanrios that don't exist.

For the most part, that's you and Brian. Todd has joined in
lately, but he's just a developmentally delayed adult with an attitude
and a computer.

Try to keep focussed on the FACT that this
newsgroup is SUPPOSED to be about amateur radio
policy.

I am glad to see that after all these years you have at LEAST
stopped trying to insist that this group is SOLELY for discussing the
Morse Code Test issue.

Now...You are still NOT a licensed Amateur with ANY practical
experience (other than this NG) in actual Amateur Radio policy issues,
which begs the question as to what YOU think you're doing here!

(Please don't recite the same lie about only being interested in
"debating the morse code TEST issue"...You wore that out years ago)

It is NOT some kind of kiddie sandbox
that was created for Stebie to show his courage
in personal attacks on everyone who disagrees
with him.

But that is ALL that YOU have used this group for, Lennie.

Why do you always make "rules" that YOU clearly violate,
Lennie...???

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
From: K4YZ on Apr 12, 6:04 am

I've provided names and callsigns of those who know
me, but you have NOT contacted them. Instead, you
MANUFACTURE some person at NADC that claims to know
me...a decade after I'd been there and a PhD to boot
but NOBODY (but you) knows the name.

Let's see....I "contact" some beer drinking buddy of yours who
you've already briefed on what to say and he'll tell me...what?

Like the time Hans contacted the ARRL...? Or was that the FCC?

And The person I knew at NADC was an acquaintance of
mine...certainly no one who owed me any favor or would make up
something.

But you would certainly "make up something."

From: "K4YZ" on Wed,Apr 13 2005 1:16 am

wrote:
From: K4YZ on Apr 12, 6:04 am

I've provided names and callsigns of those who know
me, but you have NOT contacted them. Instead, you
MANUFACTURE some person at NADC that claims to know
me...a decade after I'd been there and a PhD to boot
but NOBODY (but you) knows the name.

Let's see....I "contact" some beer drinking buddy of yours who
you've already briefed on what to say and he'll tell me...what?

And The person I knew at NADC was an acquaintance of
mine...certainly no one who owed me any favor or would make up
something.

He has a REAL Doctorate in Electrical Engineering and HAS been
published. He has credentials that I trust. You don't.

You are getting way too deep in your psychosis.

Regardless of how much you "believe" the above to be
true, for the purposes of argument in here you must reveal
the name of that person or PUT IT AWAY. I was visiting NADC
34 years ago as an employee of RCA Corporation and stayed
there a total of three months. The former Naval Air
Development Center, NOT NAS Warminster across the road.
I had daily contact with only three NADC engineers in
that group and NONE of them would be "your acquaintence."


The only one "fortunate" was you, Lennie. But then I've had
several years of rubbing your nose in your lies, deceit and mistruths
here to make up for it.

You are living in some fantasy again. Reset.

Nothing lost for me. Lot's lost for you. Like any chance at ever
being accepted for what you THINK you should be....

Tsk, tsk. The ONLY thing I've "lost" is thinking you
might be rational. I'm way too optimistic. You aren't
rational.



I had all the "proof" I need, Lennie.

A third party with no allegience to protect. A man with a
professional reputation that I can bank on.

You have BOGUS "proof." Non-existant. That "acquaintence"
doesn't exist. You made him up.


He didn't know you "a decade after (you were) there". He knew
you
WHEN you were there.

And I do not name him because I protect his privacy at his
request.

1. You can't name him because he doesn't exist.

2. The ONLY thing you are protecting is your own
bragging LIE about that fantasy individual.

3. "Protecting privacy" is totally bogus. Rationalization
expressed to attempt masking your own LIE.


I have no reason to doubt his assessment or opinion.

You probably believe your own fantasy. To you it is
"truth." To everyone else it is just your fantasy.



There is nothing "rational" about adult males repeatedly and
adamandtly lying in public, Lennie. but the two of you keep doing it.

Then you are your own worst enemy since you are describing
YOURSELF.

The only way you can clear your LYING is to name this
supposed person in order to actually prove something.
Your "word" that he exists is also bogus. He doesn't
exist anywhere except in your own psychotic imagination.
Your "word" is therefore meaningless.

Provide this "name." Without it you have a bogus
"reference" that means nothing.

You are SICK and need help. Go get some.