"KC8GXW" wrote in message
...


Stagger Lee wrote:
On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:05:38 -0500, Dog wrote:
: : That's a post-edited copy of the *real* letter.

And besides, that's not Roger Wiseman. Therefore, that person has no
access to the original FCC letters; only copies. Now if he *were*
Roger Wiseman, his comments might carry some weight.

But, alas, he isn't. He said so.

http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement...2000/0503.html
GLENDALE, WV [UPDATE]: The FCC had written General licensee Roger L.
Wiseman, KC8JBO, on March 29, 2000, advising that it had been made aware
of "an ongoing personal dispute" between Wiseman and Advanced licensee
Steven A. Tunder, N8WGM, that included allegations of interference or
jamming on 20 meters. FCC Special Counsel for Amateur Radio Enforcement
Riley Hollingsworth cautioned Tunder and Wiseman to review §97.1 of the
Amateur Radio rules and "to make certain that whatever disputes that may
exist are not carried over to Amateur Radio frequencies." Hollingsworth
invited the two licensees to contact him to discuss the matter. Wiseman
alleged in a subsequent communication to the ARRL that Tunder had been
harassing him and that he had made the FCC aware of it in the first place.
Wiseman indicated that he had been in touch with Hollingsworth to clarify
the situation. The FCC had sent Wiseman a Warning Notice last November in
response to allegations of deliberate and malicious interference on 20
meters.

http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement...2000/0719.html
GLENDALE, WV: The FCC requested July 11, 2000, that Roger L. Wiseman,
KC8JBO, retake the General examination elements under the supervision of
an ARRL-VEC volunteer examiner team. Wiseman must appear for retesting by
September 11, 2000, or his license will be canceled. Applicants appearing
for re-examination are granted an Amateur Radio license consistent with
the elements passed. The FCC had written Wiseman on March 29, 2000,
advising that it had been made aware of "an ongoing personal dispute"
between Wiseman and another licensee that included allegations of
interference or jamming on 20 meters. FCC Special Counsel for Amateur
Radio Enforcement Riley Hollingsworth invited the two licensees to contact
him to discuss the matter. Additionally, the FCC had sent Wiseman a
Warning Notice last November in response to allegations of deliberate and
malicious interference on 20 meters.

http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement...1999/1119.html
GLENDALE, WV: The FCC sent a Warning Notice November 9, 1999, to General
licensee Roger L. Wiseman, KC8JBO, citing evidence that the licensee had
been "deliberately and maliciously interfering with the radio operations
of other licensed amateurs" on 20 meters. "This interference has occurred
at various times in the last several months and includes broadcasting
music and other unidentified transmissions," said a letter from FCC
Special Counsel for Amateur Radio Enforcement Riley Hollingsworth.
Hollingsworth warned that continued operation of the type described could
result in a fine or license revocation proceeding, and he requested that
the licensee contact him to discuss the allegations.



Hearing no further whining from Roger about *random retesting*, based on
the above letters, we now know Wogie was retested because of his repeated
deliberate malicious jamming of ham radio operators on 20 meters.
Case closed.

"QRM Retest Roger" wrote in message
...

"KC8GXW" wrote in message
...


Stagger Lee wrote:
On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:05:38 -0500, Dog wrote:
: : That's a post-edited copy of the *real* letter.

And besides, that's not Roger Wiseman. Therefore, that person has no
access to the original FCC letters; only copies. Now if he *were*
Roger Wiseman, his comments might carry some weight.

But, alas, he isn't. He said so.

http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement...2000/0503.html
GLENDALE, WV [UPDATE]: The FCC had written General licensee Roger L.
Wiseman, KC8JBO, on March 29, 2000, advising that it had been made aware
of "an ongoing personal dispute" between Wiseman and Advanced licensee
Steven A. Tunder, N8WGM, that included allegations of interference or
jamming on 20 meters. FCC Special Counsel for Amateur Radio Enforcement
Riley Hollingsworth cautioned Tunder and Wiseman to review §97.1 of the
Amateur Radio rules and "to make certain that whatever disputes that may
exist are not carried over to Amateur Radio frequencies." Hollingsworth
invited the two licensees to contact him to discuss the matter. Wiseman
alleged in a subsequent communication to the ARRL that Tunder had been
harassing him and that he had made the FCC aware of it in the first
place. Wiseman indicated that he had been in touch with Hollingsworth to
clarify the situation. The FCC had sent Wiseman a Warning Notice last
November in response to allegations of deliberate and malicious
interference on 20 meters.

http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement...2000/0719.html
GLENDALE, WV: The FCC requested July 11, 2000, that Roger L. Wiseman,
KC8JBO, retake the General examination elements under the supervision of
an ARRL-VEC volunteer examiner team. Wiseman must appear for retesting by
September 11, 2000, or his license will be canceled. Applicants appearing
for re-examination are granted an Amateur Radio license consistent with
the elements passed. The FCC had written Wiseman on March 29, 2000,
advising that it had been made aware of "an ongoing personal dispute"
between Wiseman and another licensee that included allegations of
interference or jamming on 20 meters. FCC Special Counsel for Amateur
Radio Enforcement Riley Hollingsworth invited the two licensees to
contact him to discuss the matter. Additionally, the FCC had sent Wiseman
a Warning Notice last November in response to allegations of deliberate
and malicious interference on 20 meters.

http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement...1999/1119.html
GLENDALE, WV: The FCC sent a Warning Notice November 9, 1999, to General
licensee Roger L. Wiseman, KC8JBO, citing evidence that the licensee had
been "deliberately and maliciously interfering with the radio operations
of other licensed amateurs" on 20 meters. "This interference has occurred
at various times in the last several months and includes broadcasting
music and other unidentified transmissions," said a letter from FCC
Special Counsel for Amateur Radio Enforcement Riley Hollingsworth.
Hollingsworth warned that continued operation of the type described could
result in a fine or license revocation proceeding, and he requested that
the licensee contact him to discuss the allegations.



Hearing no further whining from Roger about *random retesting*, based on
the above letters, we now know Wogie was retested because of his repeated
deliberate malicious jamming of ham radio operators on 20 meters.
Case closed.



Spin it any way you want "Not Roger," but the *evidence* is clearly there
for all to see. "....citing EVIDENCE that the licensee..."

"KC8GXW" wrote in message
...

http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement...2000/0503.html
GLENDALE, WV [UPDATE]: The FCC had written General licensee Roger L.
Wiseman, KC8JBO, on March 29, 2000, advising that it had been made aware
of "an ongoing personal dispute" between Wiseman and Advanced licensee
Steven A. Tunder, N8WGM, that included allegations of interference or
jamming on 20 meters. FCC Special Counsel for Amateur Radio Enforcement
Riley Hollingsworth cautioned Tunder and Wiseman to review §97.1 of the
Amateur Radio rules and "to make certain that whatever disputes that may
exist are not carried over to Amateur Radio frequencies." Hollingsworth
invited the two licensees to contact him to discuss the matter. Wiseman
alleged in a subsequent communication to the ARRL that Tunder had been
harassing him and that he had made the FCC aware of it in the first place.
Wiseman indicated that he had been in touch with Hollingsworth to clarify
the situation. The FCC had sent Wiseman a Warning Notice last November in
response to allegations of deliberate and malicious interference on 20
meters.

http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement...2000/0719.html
GLENDALE, WV: The FCC requested July 11, 2000, that Roger L. Wiseman,
KC8JBO, retake the General examination elements under the supervision of
an ARRL-VEC volunteer examiner team. Wiseman must appear for retesting by
September 11, 2000, or his license will be canceled. Applicants appearing
for re-examination are granted an Amateur Radio license consistent with
the elements passed. The FCC had written Wiseman on March 29, 2000,
advising that it had been made aware of "an ongoing personal dispute"
between Wiseman and another licensee that included allegations of
interference or jamming on 20 meters. FCC Special Counsel for Amateur
Radio Enforcement Riley Hollingsworth invited the two licensees to contact
him to discuss the matter. Additionally, the FCC had sent Wiseman a
Warning Notice last November in response to allegations of deliberate and
malicious interference on 20 meters.

http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement...1999/1119.html
GLENDALE, WV: The FCC sent a Warning Notice November 9, 1999, to General
licensee Roger L. Wiseman, KC8JBO, citing evidence that the licensee had
been "deliberately and maliciously interfering with the radio operations
of other licensed amateurs" on 20 meters. "This interference has occurred
at various times in the last several months and includes broadcasting
music and other unidentified transmissions," said a letter from FCC
Special Counsel for Amateur Radio Enforcement Riley Hollingsworth.
Hollingsworth warned that continued operation of the type described could
result in a fine or license revocation proceeding, and he requested that
the licensee contact him to discuss the allegations.

"KC8GXW" wrote in message
...

http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement...2000/0503.html
GLENDALE, WV [UPDATE]: The FCC had written General licensee Roger L.
Wiseman, KC8JBO, on March 29, 2000, advising that it had been made aware
of "an ongoing personal dispute" between Wiseman and Advanced licensee
Steven A. Tunder, N8WGM, that included allegations of interference or
jamming on 20 meters. FCC Special Counsel for Amateur Radio Enforcement
Riley Hollingsworth cautioned Tunder and Wiseman to review §97.1 of the
Amateur Radio rules and "to make certain that whatever disputes that may
exist are not carried over to Amateur Radio frequencies." Hollingsworth
invited the two licensees to contact him to discuss the matter. Wiseman
alleged in a subsequent communication to the ARRL that Tunder had been
harassing him and that he had made the FCC aware of it in the first place.
Wiseman indicated that he had been in touch with Hollingsworth to clarify
the situation. The FCC had sent Wiseman a Warning Notice last November in
response to allegations of deliberate and malicious interference on 20
meters.

http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement...2000/0719.html
GLENDALE, WV: The FCC requested July 11, 2000, that Roger L. Wiseman,
KC8JBO, retake the General examination elements under the supervision of
an ARRL-VEC volunteer examiner team. Wiseman must appear for retesting by
September 11, 2000, or his license will be canceled. Applicants appearing
for re-examination are granted an Amateur Radio license consistent with
the elements passed. The FCC had written Wiseman on March 29, 2000,
advising that it had been made aware of "an ongoing personal dispute"
between Wiseman and another licensee that included allegations of
interference or jamming on 20 meters. FCC Special Counsel for Amateur
Radio Enforcement Riley Hollingsworth invited the two licensees to contact
him to discuss the matter. Additionally, the FCC had sent Wiseman a
Warning Notice last November in response to allegations of deliberate and
malicious interference on 20 meters.

http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement...1999/1119.html
GLENDALE, WV: The FCC sent a Warning Notice November 9, 1999, to General
licensee Roger L. Wiseman, KC8JBO, citing evidence that the licensee had
been "deliberately and maliciously interfering with the radio operations
of other licensed amateurs" on 20 meters. "This interference has occurred
at various times in the last several months and includes broadcasting
music and other unidentified transmissions," said a letter from FCC
Special Counsel for Amateur Radio Enforcement Riley Hollingsworth.
Hollingsworth warned that continued operation of the type described could
result in a fine or license revocation proceeding, and he requested that
the licensee contact him to discuss the allegations.

http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement...2000/0503.html
GLENDALE, WV [UPDATE]: The FCC had written General licensee Roger L.
Wiseman, KC8JBO, on March 29, 2000, advising that it had been made aware
of "an ongoing personal dispute" between Wiseman and Advanced licensee
Steven A. Tunder, N8WGM, that included allegations of interference or
jamming on 20 meters. FCC Special Counsel for Amateur Radio Enforcement
Riley Hollingsworth cautioned Tunder and Wiseman to review §97.1 of the
Amateur Radio rules and "to make certain that whatever disputes that may
exist are not carried over to Amateur Radio frequencies." Hollingsworth
invited the two licensees to contact him to discuss the matter. Wiseman
alleged in a subsequent communication to the ARRL that Tunder had been
harassing him and that he had made the FCC aware of it in the first place.
Wiseman indicated that he had been in touch with Hollingsworth to clarify
the situation. The FCC had sent Wiseman a Warning Notice last November in
response to allegations of deliberate and malicious interference on 20
meters.

http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement...2000/0719.html
GLENDALE, WV: The FCC requested July 11, 2000, that Roger L. Wiseman,
KC8JBO, retake the General examination elements under the supervision of
an ARRL-VEC volunteer examiner team. Wiseman must appear for retesting by
September 11, 2000, or his license will be canceled. Applicants appearing
for re-examination are granted an Amateur Radio license consistent with
the elements passed. The FCC had written Wiseman on March 29, 2000,
advising that it had been made aware of "an ongoing personal dispute"
between Wiseman and another licensee that included allegations of
interference or jamming on 20 meters. FCC Special Counsel for Amateur
Radio Enforcement Riley Hollingsworth invited the two licensees to contact
him to discuss the matter. Additionally, the FCC had sent Wiseman a
Warning Notice last November in response to allegations of deliberate and
malicious interference on 20 meters.

http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement...1999/1119.html
GLENDALE, WV: The FCC sent a Warning Notice November 9, 1999, to General
licensee Roger L. Wiseman, KC8JBO, citing evidence that the licensee had
been "deliberately and maliciously interfering with the radio operations
of other licensed amateurs" on 20 meters. "This interference has occurred
at various times in the last several months and includes broadcasting
music and other unidentified transmissions," said a letter from FCC
Special Counsel for Amateur Radio Enforcement Riley Hollingsworth.
Hollingsworth warned that continued operation of the type described could
result in a fine or license revocation proceeding, and he requested that
the licensee contact him to discuss the allegations.

On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 17:25:33 +0200 (CEST), Not-Woger wrote:
: In article
: Stagger Lee wrote:
:

Oh my. I see you're still reading Usenet via Google. The ellipsis is
a dead giveaway.

: But the Rain Report only received copies of the original
: letter, as
: did the ARRL and some others. Only Roger Wiseman has the
: original
: letters, as well as *all* of the original letters. He is the
: only one
: who can prove that the letters under discussion were not post-
: edited.

Also, Google's word wrap is terrible. Look how badly my own post is
quoted. I guess that you've run out first rate USPs. Been kicked off
too many of them, eh?

: No, YOU posted a copy of the letter to the newsgroups after it
: came out, tubby. It was available on the Rain Report website
: before Hap decided not to keep posting them.

I think you have me confused with someone else. There were many who
(re)posted the copies of the letters, including Woger Wiseman. Too
bad he's not around to straighten this whole thing out.

: One does not get retested "twice." You must be Lennie. Too
: stupid to even get a ham license.

I would think that you can be retested as often as the FCC directs.
In fact, I'd be willing to bet on it. Too bad Woger isn't around to
let us know how many times he was retested. I personally think that
anyone who believes in negative SWR might have to be tested several
times. Add the jamming to that mix, and I can envision four or five
retests.

: Oh, you are the one who posted that the Marshall County, Alabama
: website was the one for Marshall County, West Virginia.

No, I just said it was Marshall County. And it was. WOGER was the one
who assumed that I meant West Virginia.

And how is it that you retain and bring up that post after years have
elapsed? After all, you're not Woger and the comments were clearly
directed at him.

If I hadn't accepted your word that you aren't Woger, I'd start to
suspect that you could be prevaricating. [Jbtre guvaxf gung ynfg jbeq
ersref gb xvaxl frk.] What a terrible thought.

[61 additional lines flushed.]



====================
In message , AB8MQ shows his technical
cluelessness about IP addresses when he ominously asks: "Still using:
NNTP-Posting-Host: 172.16.133.151?"

"Pam" PamHoffer@nosplam wrote in message ...
Hello. My name is Pam. I once ran an ISP in the West Virginia/Ohio area.

Roger Wiseman was at one time a subscriber to my services, but that didn't
last long.

Why, you ask?



Mr. Wiseman was never the best of customers and from the very first week
of
him signing with us the complaints rolled in. The majority of the
complaints
centered on the fact that Mr. Wiseman was posting libel and did so with a
before unheard of amount of filthy verbiage.



I, Pam, warned Mr. Wiseman on several occasions. Mr. Wiseman responded by
placing the blame on others, others whose names or IP addresses he could
not
provide. He assured me that the violations would stop.



Then, about three years ago, I received a printout from a person who
called
himself Arf! Arf! In the printout were numerous posts, with headers, made
by
Mr. Wiseman in which Mr. Wiseman described me in the most vile of terms.
After receiving these printouts I decided that it would be useless to
issue
any further warnings to Mr. Wiseman. I then terminated his account.



Mister Wiseman was with us for less than a year and was told that he would
not be allowed another account.



It is our policy to refuse service to anybody who violates our terms of
service, those being the use of abusive language and the posting of
libelous
statements. Mister Wiseman was placed on notice that he is no longer
welcome
and need never again apply for another account with us.



Mister Wiseman has been informed that he is a "persona non gratis".



Pam




I claim *SPANK* on Roger. The FCC letters being self-evident.
Too bad, only Roger could possibly refute the spank, but then he is not
here, only someone who claims he is "Not Roger."

73,

Lloyd

Anonymous wrote:

In article
KC8GXW wrote:


But, alas, he isn't. He said so.

http://www.arrl.owhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh, I was proved wrong.


Hmm, you dumbasses, need to review what "citing evidence" mean.
And it still doesn't change:

http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement...1999/1119.html
GLENDALE, WV: The FCC sent a Warning Notice November 9, 1999, to General
licensee Roger L. Wiseman, KC8JBO, citing evidence that the licensee had
been "deliberately and maliciously interfering with the radio operations
of other licensed amateurs" on 20 meters. "This interference has
occurred at various times in the last several months and includes
broadcasting music and other unidentified transmissions," said a letter
from FCC Special Counsel for Amateur Radio Enforcement Riley
Hollingsworth. Hollingsworth warned that continued operation of the type
described could result in a fine or license revocation proceeding, and
he requested that the licensee contact him to discuss the evidence.

Better learn to read:
ROGER L WISEMAN
610 GLEN HAVEN AVE
GLENDALE WV 26038-1302

"Lloyd" wrote in message
...

"allegations of deliberate and malicious interference on 20 meters."

Enough said.
Roger loses.




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By your own admission, you are "Not Roger," so what you say has
no validity, much less is it even logical in the face of self-evident
FCC correspondence. Once you resorted to profanity, you lost any
hope of convincing anyone here.

73,

Lloyd



"Tarapia Tapioco" wrote in message
x.it...

Yup, it looksd like you are shown to be stupid again. Or as
always.

Pursuant to Section 97.519(d)(2) of the Commission's Rules, 47
C.F.R. Section 97.519(d)(2), the Commission has the authority to
re-
administer any examination element previously administered by
Volunteer
Examiners (VE's).
The Commission may either administer the examination itself, or
under the supervision of a Volunteer Examiner Coordinator (VEC)
or VE
designated by the Commission.