wrote:

What does it matter whether I served in any military or not?

Kind of makes it hard to be a Veteran if you didn't serve.

Here's a hint: The Canadian military forces used Morse Code in
WW2.

Oh, now I see the connections. Because you saw photos of Ham soldiers
in QST, and you're a ham, you "served" by extension. The coat-tail
connection.

I could go on about the political and economic effects, but since
this
is a radio newsgroup I thought I'd stick to electronic and
radio subjects.

And Canadian war museum topics.

If I did talk about any military service I had, you would
be certain to make fun of it. It's just what you do, Len.
So typical.

You "served" in other ways. And Kelly has "real" military experience.

It's only those who disagree with you about Morse Code testing
that get your disrespect, abuse, name calling, and general
jack(expletive deleted] behavior.

Do you eat with that mouth?

Is there any reason to doubt that Steve, K4YZ, was involved
if he says he was?

Is there any reason to not apply Steve's rules of facts to Steve's
claims?

I see. His mistake somehow justifies *your* behavior?

Mistake? He's had ample opportunity to correct that mistake. Instead
he piles up the lies.

There you go again - calling names.

"jack(expletive deleted] behavior"

Godwin invoked. You lose.

Why not use the person's name and callsign?

Kim, W5TIT.

Miccolis invoked. You lose.

Rest of your double-standards snipped.

bb wrote:
wrote:

What does it matter whether I served in any military or not?

Kind of makes it hard to be a Veteran if you didn't serve.

But then comes you. A licensee with no antenna. In your case one has to
conclude that becoming a Veteran was easier than putting up an antenna.

wrote:
bb wrote:
wrote:

What does it matter whether I served in any military or not?

Kind of makes it hard to be a Veteran if you didn't serve.

But then comes you. A licensee with no antenna. In your case one has
to
conclude that becoming a Veteran was easier than putting up an
antenna.

Brian P Burke and Leonard H Anderson both epitomize all of the
things that give other veterans a black eye. I would not want to be in
a social setting where their status as veterans was known and then
announce that I was a vet too. That's one "guilty by association" that
I will gladly avoid.

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
bb wrote:
wrote:

What does it matter whether I served in any military or not?

Kind of makes it hard to be a Veteran if you didn't serve.

But then comes you. A licensee with no antenna. In your case one
has
to
conclude that becoming a Veteran was easier than putting up an
antenna.

Brian P Burke and Leonard H Anderson both epitomize all of the
things that give other veterans a black eye. I would not want to be
in
a social setting where their status as veterans was known and then
announce that I was a vet too. That's one "guilty by association"
that
I will gladly avoid.

Steve, K4YZ

There is no guilt in military service, unless you lie about it. Like
saying that you have "real military experience" when you don't, or
saying that you have "seven hostile actions" when you have none.

Best of Luck.

bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
bb wrote:
wrote:

What does it matter whether I served in any military or not?

Kind of makes it hard to be a Veteran if you didn't serve.

But then comes you. A licensee with no antenna. In your case one
has
to
conclude that becoming a Veteran was easier than putting up an
antenna.

Brian P Burke and Leonard H Anderson both epitomize all of the
things that give other veterans a black eye. I would not want to
be
in
a social setting where their status as veterans was known and then
announce that I was a vet too. That's one "guilty by association"
that
I will gladly avoid.

Steve, K4YZ

There is no guilt in military service, unless you lie about it. Like
saying that you have "real military experience" when you don't, or
saying that you have "seven hostile actions" when you have none.

Lennie's use of the sacrifice of life for his own glorification is
one of the most "intolerable sins" amongst veterans.

Period.

Best of Luck.

None needed, but thanks.

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
bb wrote:
wrote:

What does it matter whether I served in any military or
not?

Kind of makes it hard to be a Veteran if you didn't serve.

But then comes you. A licensee with no antenna. In your case
one
has
to
conclude that becoming a Veteran was easier than putting up an
antenna.

Brian P Burke and Leonard H Anderson both epitomize all of
the
things that give other veterans a black eye. I would not want to
be
in
a social setting where their status as veterans was known and
then
announce that I was a vet too. That's one "guilty by
association"
that
I will gladly avoid.

Steve, K4YZ

There is no guilt in military service, unless you lie about it.
Like
saying that you have "real military experience" when you don't, or
saying that you have "seven hostile actions" when you have none.

Lennie's use of the sacrifice of life for his own glorification
is
one of the most "intolerable sins" amongst veterans.

Period.

Every veteran has put themselves in the queu for sacrifice. So Jim
asks what difference serving in the military makes? That is the
answer. Apparently he had something more important to do.

Best of Luck.

None needed, but thanks.

Steve, K4YZ

Best of Luck.

From: "K4YZ" on Thurs,Apr 14 2005 2:27 am

wrote:
bb wrote:
wrote:

What does it matter whether I served in any military or not?

Kind of makes it hard to be a Veteran if you didn't serve.

But then comes you. A licensee with no antenna. In your case one has
to
conclude that becoming a Veteran was easier than putting up an
antenna.

Brian P Burke and Leonard H Anderson both epitomize all of the
things that give other veterans a black eye. I would not want to be
in
a social setting where their status as veterans was known and then
announce that I was a vet too. That's one "guilty by association"
that
I will gladly avoid.

Tsk, tsk. You had BETTER avoid it! Once you step away
from the Legion Hall bar YOU are liable to not make it out
of the parking lot! :-)

Sweetums, I have an HONORABLE discharges from military
service. Kellie ain't got a one! Kellie couldn't make it
in or got away with staying out (take a pick, prick).

What have YOU got? A medical discharge. You claim, and then
try to bluff everyone into believing "it was changed to an
'honorable' discharge." Do WE have "proof" of that? NO!

Tsk. I can digitize my 1960 HONORABLE discharge and send it
(have to get it out of the bank's safety deposit box). It can
be verified at the St. Louis military records archives. It can
probably be verified through the VA...but I've had NO need to
do that myself. My employers have all checked and verified
such was true for me, as has Social Security after my 65th
birthday. Not a problem in my case.

So...we've got BIG MOUTH Cuss-Everyone-Out Stevie bad-mouthing
every one who disagrees with him and his claims of "seven
hostile actions" and other bull****. We have to take his
"word" that all he say is "true." :-) Like his "reference"
to my "employment with NADC." [which never happened since I
was never employed by the USN in any capacity]

Poor Stevie doesn't like to "associate" with myself or Brian.
Tsk, tsk, tsk. Poor baby. He should stay at the Legion Hall
bar and keep telling his fantasy stories. Maybe someone WILL
believe him (if they've had enough to drink). "Belief" is
Stevie's BIG PROBLEM. He can't live with it...makes every-
one else "prove" theirs and then keeps bad-mouthing them
when they do! Psychotic Psteve. Tsk.

Me, I got NO problems associating with REAL military
veterans. Done it much...and NOT at some Legion Hall bar.
Done it for years. I'm proud of what I did and there are
NO blemishes on my military record. I'm sure Brian has a
good record, too. "It ain't braggin if ya did it."
I did it.

Get some mental help, Psychotic Pstevie. You need it.



ex-RA16408336, U.S. Army 1952-1960, HONORABLE discharge

wrote:
From: "K4YZ" on Thurs,Apr 14 2005 2:27 am

wrote:
bb wrote:
wrote:

What does it matter whether I served in any military or not?

Kind of makes it hard to be a Veteran if you didn't serve.

But then comes you. A licensee with no antenna. In your case one
has
to
conclude that becoming a Veteran was easier than putting up an
antenna.

Brian P Burke and Leonard H Anderson both epitomize all of the
things that give other veterans a black eye. I would not want to be
in
a social setting where their status as veterans was known and then
announce that I was a vet too. That's one "guilty by association"
that
I will gladly avoid.

Tsk, tsk. You had BETTER avoid it! Once you step away
from the Legion Hall bar YOU are liable to not make it out
of the parking lot!

I don't drink, Lennie.

Sweetums, I have an HONORABLE discharges from military
service.

Yes, you do. But it's your self-serving use of the deaths of
others for your own glorification that dishonored whatever you DID do
good, Lennie.

Kellie ain't got a one! Kellie couldn't make it
in or got away with staying out (take a pick, prick).

You've been asked this before, I am asking again: WHAT LAW DID
BRIAN KELLY VIOLATE BY NOT SERVING IN THE ARMED FORCES...?!?!

(Caps not for yelling, but to make it easier for the old man to
read...he has obviouly had a hard with it!)

What have YOU got? A medical discharge.

Nope. Same Honorable you've got, Lennie.

You claim, and then
try to bluff everyone into believing "it was changed to an
'honorable' discharge." Do WE have "proof" of that? NO!

It was never "changed" to an Honorable, Lennie. It was Honorable
all along. I was discharged.

Tsk. I can digitize my 1960 HONORABLE discharge...(SNIP)

Sure you can. Two problems, though. One, you've already done the
"I am going to send you an e-mail" trick wherein you DIDN'T send what
you promised you were going to do.

Trust blown.

Secondly, as I have said over an over, I don't doubt that you have
an "Honorable" discharge. But what I HAVE said over and over it's HOW
YOU DISGRACED YOUR SERVICE WITH YOUR SELFISH USE OF OTHER'S SACRIFICES
THAT MAKE YOU THE SCUMBAG YOU ARE!

Me, I got NO problems associating with REAL military
veterans. Done it much...and NOT at some Legion Hall bar.
Done it for years. I'm proud of what I did and there are
NO blemishes on my military record. I'm sure Brian has a
good record, too. "It ain't braggin if ya did it."
I did it.

You also "did it" when you tried to embellish YOUR "record" with
the deaths of Soldiers who died in combat before you were even
inducted.

Get some mental help, Psychotic Pstevie. You need it.

Not even remotely as much as you, old man.



ex-RA16408336, U.S. Army 1952-1960, HONORABLE discharge

Pathologiocal liar and teller of Tall Tales. User Of Other's
Sacrifices.

Putz.

Steve, K4yz

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
From: "K4YZ" on Thurs,Apr 14 2005 2:27 am

wrote:
bb wrote:
wrote:

What does it matter whether I served in any military or not?

Kind of makes it hard to be a Veteran if you didn't serve.

But then comes you. A licensee with no antenna. In your case one
has
to
conclude that becoming a Veteran was easier than putting up an
antenna.

Brian P Burke and Leonard H Anderson both epitomize all of the
things that give other veterans a black eye. I would not want to
be
in
a social setting where their status as veterans was known and then
announce that I was a vet too. That's one "guilty by association"
that
I will gladly avoid.

Tsk, tsk. You had BETTER avoid it! Once you step away
from the Legion Hall bar YOU are liable to not make it out
of the parking lot!

I don't drink, Lennie.

Was that the 12th step? Probably has something to do with your medical
discharge.

Sweetums, I have an HONORABLE discharges from military
service.

Yes, you do. But it's your self-serving use of the deaths of
others for your own glorification that dishonored whatever you DID do
good, Lennie.

Jim asked what difference it makes if he served or not? Soldiers die.

Kellie ain't got a one! Kellie couldn't make it
in or got away with staying out (take a pick, prick).

You've been asked this before, I am asking again: WHAT LAW DID
BRIAN KELLY VIOLATE BY NOT SERVING IN THE ARMED FORCES...?!?!

Kellie lied about it. He claimed to have "real military service."

(Caps not for yelling, but to make it easier for the old man to
read...he has obviouly had a hard with it!)

What have YOU got? A medical discharge.

Nope. Same Honorable you've got, Lennie.

You claim, and then
try to bluff everyone into believing "it was changed to an
'honorable' discharge." Do WE have "proof" of that? NO!

It was never "changed" to an Honorable, Lennie. It was
Honorable
all along. I was discharged.

Was Kelly discharged? Jim?

Tsk. I can digitize my 1960 HONORABLE discharge...(SNIP)

Sure you can. Two problems, though. One, you've already done
the
"I am going to send you an e-mail" trick wherein you DIDN'T send what
you promised you were going to do.

Why do you use the word "promised?" Is it a cheap Robeson trick to
make greater your injury? Hi!

Trust blown.

Secondly, as I have said over an over, I don't doubt that you
have
an "Honorable" discharge. But what I HAVE said over and over it's
HOW
YOU DISGRACED YOUR SERVICE WITH YOUR SELFISH USE OF OTHER'S
SACRIFICES
THAT MAKE YOU THE SCUMBAG YOU ARE!

Didn't people who didn't serve make selfish use of other's sacrifices?

Me, I got NO problems associating with REAL military
veterans. Done it much...and NOT at some Legion Hall bar.
Done it for years. I'm proud of what I did and there are
NO blemishes on my military record. I'm sure Brian has a
good record, too. "It ain't braggin if ya did it."
I did it.

You also "did it" when you tried to embellish YOUR "record"
with
the deaths of Soldiers who died in combat before you were even
inducted.

What? No marines ever died in combat prior to your service? You
enlisted because it was safe and you knew you'd get back in one piece
(didn't happen, did it?)

Jim asks what difference serving or not serving in the military makes?
I'd like to see you explain it to him.

Get some mental help, Psychotic Pstevie. You need it.

Not even remotely as much as you, old man.

Let the professionals make that determination.



ex-RA16408336, U.S. Army 1952-1960, HONORABLE discharge

Pathologiocal liar and teller of Tall Tales. User Of Other's
Sacrifices.

Putz.

Steve, K4yz

What about your claim of seven hostile actions?

bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

I don't drink, Lennie.

Was that the 12th step? Probably has something to do with your
medical
discharge.

Nope. Has to do with getting more out of life with a clear head
than without it.

You should try it.

Sweetums, I have an HONORABLE discharges from military
service.

Yes, you do. But it's your self-serving use of the deaths of
others for your own glorification that dishonored whatever you DID
do
good, Lennie.

Jim asked what difference it makes if he served or not? Soldiers
die.

So do construction workers who build bases, or mechanics that
manufacture tanks.

The fact of the matter is that except in the most aggrevious
warfare, more Americans die on the highways at home than do Servicemen.

You've been asked this before, I am asking again: WHAT LAW
DID
BRIAN KELLY VIOLATE BY NOT SERVING IN THE ARMED FORCES...?!?!

Kellie lied about it. He claimed to have "real military service."

You'll have to show me that one, Brain.

I've seen where he's said he worked WITH the Armed Forces, but
never "I was in..."

It was never "changed" to an Honorable, Lennie. It was
Honorable
all along. I was discharged.

Was Kelly discharged? Jim?

I ams till trying to figure out your point here.

Tsk. I can digitize my 1960 HONORABLE discharge...(SNIP)

Sure you can. Two problems, though. One, you've already done
the
"I am going to send you an e-mail" trick wherein you DIDN'T send
what
you promised you were going to do.

Why do you use the word "promised?" Is it a cheap Robeson trick to
make greater your injury?

Nope.

Because he lied. An Anderson trick, but not an uncommon one.

Trust blown.

Secondly, as I have said over an over, I don't doubt that you
have
an "Honorable" discharge. But what I HAVE said over and over it's
HOW
YOU DISGRACED YOUR SERVICE WITH YOUR SELFISH USE OF OTHER'S
SACRIFICES
THAT MAKE YOU THE SCUMBAG YOU ARE!

Didn't people who didn't serve make selfish use of other's
sacrifices?

Oh come on, Burke...Building upon the sacrifices others made is
one tthing...That's how America got to BE America.

Your "mentor" intentionally tried to get away with making it
appear as though HE had "served" with the Soliders who were KIA.

THAT is DISGUSTING.

You also "did it" when you tried to embellish YOUR "record"
with
the deaths of Soldiers who died in combat before you were even
inducted.

What? No marines ever died in combat prior to your service? You
enlisted because it was safe and you knew you'd get back in one piece
(didn't happen, did it?)

I never tried to convince anyone that I was somehow involved
in a war that happened 3 years before I was enlisted.

Jim asks what difference serving or not serving in the military
makes?
I'd like to see you explain it to him.

It DOESN'T matter...It's NOT the law, and not every person was
meant to be a Soldier or Marine.

Get some mental help, Psychotic Pstevie. You need it.

Not even remotely as much as you, old man.

Let the professionals make that determination.

I am one of the professionals, Brian. Licensed.



ex-RA16408336, U.S. Army 1952-1960, HONORABLE discharge

Pathologiocal liar and teller of Tall Tales. User Of Other's
Sacrifices.

Putz.

Steve, K4yz

What about your claim of seven hostile actions?

Tried to trust YOU once upon a time, Brain, but you blew YOUR
"trust" opportunity too. Oh well.

Steve, K4YZ