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April 14th 05, 08:11 PM

Dave Heil

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From: Dave Heil on Apr 12, 9:31 pm

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From: N2EY on Apr 12, 4:20 pm
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Does it bother you, Len?

You read his lengthy post and saw the style he used. You bet it
bothered him.

NAH. I did it. Jimmie didn't do it.

So?

To be fair, Len has exhibited jackass behavior toward K0HB and Hans
does
not support retention of morse code testing.

Tsk. Everyone who disagrees with Davie is guilty of
"jackass behavior?" :-)

That's quite incorrect. You, Lena Anderson, exhibits jackass behavior
:-)

Riiiight...only ARRL-speak and the beauty, nobility,
and grandeur of morsemanship is spoken in here...:-)

What is ARRL-speak?

about his famous
"seven hostile actions"

Do you know what they are? Where *you* involved in any of
them?

He doesn't have any idea what they were. It kills him.

NAH. It only shows what a snow-jobbing laid-off
murine does under the guise of a U.S. AMATEUR radio
extra callsign. Tosses brags like they were bagels.

In your view, anyone who does anything not blessed by you is a snow job.
Anyone except you who was in the military and is now out of the military
is laid off. An Amateur Extra callsign with the "amateur" in capital
letters is something to be derided.

To my knowledge, Steve has never stated that DOD does not direct MARS.

His claim is that if there were no radio amateurs, there'd have been
no
MARS program. In that, he is correct.

Bull****.

My statement is quite correct.

The United States ARMY started MARS...but
under a different name before WW2. Tsk.

I'm well aware of that.

Davie ought
to read up on the subject...lots of references.

Lena is the one who should read up on it. AACS and MARS (with the "A"
standing for "Amateur" were the names used in the past. The current
Military Affliate Radio System would not be in existence without radio
amateurs. I first participated in the MARS program in 1969. I last
participated in 1985. I participated in the program on the military
side in 1969 from the U.S. and in 1971 from Vietnam as a volunteer
(quite separate from my other military communications duties.

MARS always was and remains a MILITARY radio system.

No kidding? Duh.

A small one, about as effective as having special
services put on shows and entertainment.

You must be thinking of something different than MARS.

Morale
boosting thing.

It certainly was that.

That's pretty much why I've left details out. As with Steve's
military
service, Len doesn't know what I did or where I did it and it kills
him.

No problem with me.

Apparently it is a problem for you. You've alluded to it on a number of
occasions.

If you ain't got the guts to
tell the details, you AIN'T done it. Simple as that.

No, it isn't quite that simple. It has nothing to do with guts. It has
to do with having seen how you treat the experiences of others while
trumpeting your own.

...and Len has invariably demeaned that service. He has always known
more about my job that I did. Foreign service tours were dismissed as

tropical backwaters, places of insignificance and Cashew capitals.

Awwwww...you doing a Rodney Dangerfield? Get no
"respect?" :-)

No comedy, Len, but your insulting behavior over things you aren't in a
position to know.

Don't leave out his attempts at insult by stating that my name never
appeared in any lists of embassy staff. That blew up in his face when
I
produced a couple of urls in which I was listed. Len's response was
to
dismiss the lists as some sort of telephone directory.

Tsk. Sounds like you are bucking for an Intelligence Star.
Couldn't you get a sponsor at the NSA to award you one?

Did I write anything of that? Your two-step doesn't disguise that you
aren't in a position to deny my statement.

Because Len is all about Len. That isn't the important part though.
The important part is where Len's sphincter post speaks of what it is
like to be in battle. Len was never in battle.

Only ONE very brief exchange of gunfire.

Did you fire a weapon, Len? Was one fired directly at you? If so, was
it from the enemy?

Doesn't count
as a "battle," though.

Then it certain doesn't count as an artillery barrage, does it? Want to
recount your "sphincter post" or shall I?

Big Hero Dave...tell us all YOUR "battle experience."

I've never claimed to be any kind of hero, much less a big one and I've
never ever posted or written any kind of manufactured tale like your
"sphinter post".

Were you behind the Viet Cong lines sending intel to
HQ via CW?

You might actually find the information if you had enough knowledge of
how to use a search engine.

As far as I'm concerned, amateur radio is about operating any mode I
choose on any band I choose. Len isn't involved on any level.

Everyone NOT licensed in amateur radio "isn't involved."
:-)

Oh, the FCC is involved here in the United States but you don't work for
the Commission nor are you a radio amateur.

The point is that some MIGHT want to GET INTO amateur
radio. Dave loses his perspective on that. [age
causing loss of sight...among other things...]

I've not lost sight of that, Len. I have a stake in what kind of
qualifications aspiring hams demonstrate in order to enter amateur
radio.

Davie ought to get with Paul Schleck pronto and have
EVERYONE without a valid amateur radio license TOSSED
OFF this newsgroup!

Has Paul Schleck advocated such a thing? I know I haven't.

Make it "safe" for the double-
standard elitist PCTA EXTRAs to use as their personal
chat room and blog... :-)

There are plenty of radio amateurs who post here who don't hold Extra
Class tickets. FYI, this isn't a chat room or a blog. Familiarize
yourself with the definitions of those terms.

Len knows more about what others did than those involved.

Nope. But...I DO recognize a bull**** artist from a
long distance. Davie be one of those...

I'm sure you practiced that recognition from a much, much closer range.

Len knows more about the military.

I know enough to meet THIS level of homo saps. :-)

It is evident that you do not.

Been IN the Army...had lots of contact with Army
as a civilian after service time done.

So?

Len knows more about communications.

Tsk. I know some about that. Been IN that as a
civilian. :-)

So have many others. I was a civilian in communications in my last
position.

Len knows more about radio operation.

Tsk. I know HOW they work and the protocols needed
in some radio services.

Some radio services? Whoop-de-doo!

You have a need of info on
those radio services, big honcho?

No, I'm quite comfortable that I knowledge I have is quite sufficient
for what I did for a living and what I do now.

Len knows more about the U.S. Department of State.

I do? Oh, my, aren't you stepping off into denied
territory! :-)

It wasn't denied territory to me, Len. You made statements about that
which you did not and could not know.

Len knows more about your work.

Tsk. Jimmie "works in the transportation field"
according to one Comment in the ECFS. Other than
that, Jimmie do NOT say squat. He afraid others
find out?

I don't believe that Jim is afraid at all. I think he has observed your
actions and that he is being prudent.

Len knows more about Brian Kelly's work.

I do? Oh, my. News to me. Isn't Kellie retired?

Is he?

Len knows more about Steve's work.

Tsk. Stevie follows REAL DOCTORS' orders...which
includes staying OUT of the Sharps box. :-)

So you know nothing of his work.

Whatever Len did at ADA more than a half century ago impacts amateur
radio not in the least.

Riiiiight old-timer. Ham radio NEVER operated on HF, did
it? :-)

Are you sure that the above is the response you'd like to make to my
statement?

Len tells it because he wants to be sure that everyone knows of it.

(the frequent retelling of his ADA tale from 50+ years ago)

You betcha! :-)

It was obvious.

The U.S. military did NOT use morse code in long-distance
fixed-point to fixed-point communications a half century
ago and still don't. Tsk. Some of you olde-tyme hammes
need to get your noses out of old WW2 surplus radio books
and inspect the rest of the radio world.

If we were to desire operating in the rest of the radio world, I'm sure
we would. That radio amateur continue to use morse daily, seems to have
escaped your notice.

How does it give him the right to insult those who never served?

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Those with SUCH thin skin should NOT be
ANYWHERE on the Internet!!!! :-)

Really? Is this from the Gospel according to St. Leonard? Your bluster
is just that--bluster.

Now you've done it, Jim. You've denigrated a veteran.

Jimmie (and Davie...and Stevie...and every other elitist
double-standard PCTA EXTRA) will, without doubt, insult
ANYONE they care to.

....or they might insult those who have constantly insulted them, someone
who is not involved in amateur radio in the smallest way.

It's in the fine print of their
ham privileges as super-dooper under-the-dashboard douche
bag guar-un-teed morsemanship EXTRA AMATEURS!!!!

What is any of that to you? You aren't involved in amateur radio.

Dave

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