"KØHB" wrote in message
ink.net...

: ... almost a decade before the Lloyd Bucher shamefully struck his
: colors to the Koreans..

Shameful is in the eye of the beholder. Captain Bucher was not punished for
surrendering, just as the US didn't punish the Jews who attacked his
sister-ship, USS Liberty on a similar mission. Probably because then the
Navy would have needed to punish those who sent those ships in harms way
without proper means to defend themselves, and further because when Pueblo
signalled for help other forces in the area (7th Fleet, CINCPAC, 5th AF at
Fuchu/Kadena/Clark, etc.) engaged in a messy cluster-**** deciding whether
and who should send air assets to cover his retreat. Enough shame to go
around!

M.A.N.
--
"I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord,
make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it."
- Voltaire

On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 03:20:15 GMT, Mel A. Nomah wrote:

Shameful is in the eye of the beholder. Captain Bucher was not punished for
surrendering, just as the US didn't punish the Jews who attacked his
sister-ship, USS Liberty on a similar mission. Probably because then the
Navy would have needed to punish those who sent those ships in harms way
without proper means to defend themselves

As well as the NSA/USN brass who, when queried by the Israelis,
adamantly denied that the Liberty was a U S Naval vessel even after
being told that the vessel wiil be blown out of the water if it
wasn't a US Naval vessel. The Israelis had every reason to believe
that the Egyptians or their mentors, the Soviets, would fly the US
flag to avoid destruction if they could get away with it.

And the NSA kept denying...

--
73 de K2ASP / 4X4UQ - Phil Kane

Phil Kane wrote:
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 03:20:15 GMT, Mel A. Nomah wrote:

Shameful is in the eye of the beholder. Captain Bucher was not
punished for
surrendering, just as the US didn't punish the Jews who attacked his
sister-ship, USS Liberty on a similar mission. Probably because
then the
Navy would have needed to punish those who sent those ships in harms
way
without proper means to defend themselves

As well as the NSA/USN brass who, when queried by the Israelis,
adamantly denied that the Liberty was a U S Naval vessel even after
being told that the vessel wiil be blown out of the water if it
wasn't a US Naval vessel. The Israelis had every reason to believe
that the Egyptians or their mentors, the Soviets, would fly the US
flag to avoid destruction if they could get away with it.

And the NSA kept denying...

--
73 de K2ASP / 4X4UQ - Phil Kane

Read the TRUTH about the deliberate Jew attack on the
USS Liberty at this website, which is operated by survivors of
the attack:

www.ussliberty.org

"anon" wrote in message
...

Read the TRUTH about the deliberate Jew attack on the
USS Liberty at this website, which is operated by survivors of
the attack:

www.ussliberty.org


It was the Israelis that attacked the ship. Not the Jews. Many Jewish
people are not Israelis.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

"Dee Flint" wrote in message
...

"anon" wrote in message
...

Read the TRUTH about the deliberate Jew attack on the
USS Liberty at this website, which is operated by survivors of
the attack:

www.ussliberty.org


It was the Israelis that attacked the ship. Not the Jews. Many Jewish
people are not Israelis.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Tell that to the surviving family members of the American
sailors deliberately killed by the Jews. Which bullets were
Jew and which were Israeli?

"Len" wrote in message
...

"Dee Flint" wrote in message
...

"anon" wrote in message
...

Read the TRUTH about the deliberate Jew attack on the
USS Liberty at this website, which is operated by survivors of
the attack:

www.ussliberty.org


It was the Israelis that attacked the ship. Not the Jews. Many Jewish
people are not Israelis.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Tell that to the surviving family members of the American
sailors deliberately killed by the Jews. Which bullets were
Jew and which were Israeli?



By your approach, all the Jews in the world should be brought to account for
that event rather than the country of Israel. It is your type of thinking
that perpetuates discrimination. The fault was with the Israeli government
and military not the Jewish people. There are Jewish people in many nations
of the world, including the US, and there were not responsible for this
attack. It would be just as silly and wrong to say that the Christians,
rather than the United States, overthrew the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

"Dee Flint" wrote in message
...

"Len" wrote in message
...

"Dee Flint" wrote in message
...

"anon" wrote in message
...

Read the TRUTH about the deliberate Jew attack on the
USS Liberty at this website, which is operated by survivors of
the attack:

www.ussliberty.org


It was the Israelis that attacked the ship. Not the Jews. Many Jewish
people are not Israelis.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Tell that to the surviving family members of the American
sailors deliberately killed by the Jews. Which bullets were
Jew and which were Israeli?



By your approach, all the Jews in the world should be brought to account
for that event rather than the country of Israel. It is your type of
thinking that perpetuates discrimination. The fault was with the Israeli
government and military not the Jewish people. There are Jewish people in
many nations of the world, including the US, and there were not
responsible for this attack. It would be just as silly and wrong to say
that the Christians, rather than the United States, overthrew the Taliban
in Afghanistan.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Like I said, go tell your theories to the surviving family members of the
innocent American sailors. Another clueless idiot shoots their
clueless mouth off.

"That the attack was deliberate 'just wasn't a disputed issue' within
the National Security Agency"

=Former NSA/CIA Director retired Army Lieutenant General
William Odom on 3 March 2003 in an interview for Naval
Institute Proceedings.

www.ussliberty.org

Yesterday, an NSA spokesperson questioned a point made in the book
about the USS Liberty. "We do not comment on operational matters,
alleged or otherwise; however, Mr. Bamford's claim that the NSA
leadership was 'virtually unanimous in their belief that the attack was
deliberate' is simply not true," the spokesperson said.

Baltimore Sun
April 24, 2001
by Scott Shane and Tom Bowman

Mike