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N9OGL April 19th 05 07:56 AM

K4YZ ANSWER MY QUESTION
 
Ok, Mister Wizard, answer me this question, where in the FCC rules or a
FCC decision does it state that an information bulletin can not be
opinionated??? please quote it from rule or statement from the FCC.

You say I'm in violation of federal law so please enlighten me which
laws am I in violation of?

Todd N9OGL


K4YZ April 19th 05 11:55 AM


N9OGL wrote:
Ok, Mister Wizard, answer me this question, where in the FCC rules or

a
FCC decision does it state that an information bulletin can not be
opinionated??? please quote it from rule or statement from the FCC.

You say I'm in violation of federal law so please enlighten me which
laws am I in violation of?


Once you have tainted "information" with individual opinion, it is
no longer information, but editorial.

FCC rules and regulations allow for the transmission of bulletins
of general interest to the Amateur service.

Your "bulletins", made up of YOUR "opinion", do not meet the test
of "general interest.

Read it yourself, Toiddie. You've requoted it over and over
enough.

Steve, K4YZ


N9OGL April 19th 05 01:06 PM

Once you have tainted "information" with individual opinion, it is
no longer information, but editorial.


what rule states that???

Todd N9OGL


bb April 20th 05 01:21 AM


K4YZ wrote:
N9OGL wrote:
Ok, Mister Wizard, answer me this question, where in the FCC rules

or
a
FCC decision does it state that an information bulletin can not be
opinionated??? please quote it from rule or statement from the FCC.

You say I'm in violation of federal law so please enlighten me

which
laws am I in violation of?


Once you have tainted "information" with individual opinion, it

is
no longer information, but editorial.


Tell it to Dan Rather.

FCC rules and regulations allow for the transmission of bulletins
of general interest to the Amateur service.

Your "bulletins", made up of YOUR "opinion", do not meet the test
of "general interest.


Explain, with citations.


K4YZ April 20th 05 07:48 AM


bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
N9OGL wrote:
Ok, Mister Wizard, answer me this question, where in the FCC

rules
or
a
FCC decision does it state that an information bulletin can not

be
opinionated??? please quote it from rule or statement from the

FCC.

You say I'm in violation of federal law so please enlighten me

which
laws am I in violation of?


Once you have tainted "information" with individual opinion, it

is
no longer information, but editorial.


Tell it to Dan Rather.


Oh...You mean the SMAE Dan Rather that's humuiated himself lately
by "going live" with "stories" that were unsubstantiated and patently
false on the face of it?

FCC rules and regulations allow for the transmission of

bulletins
of general interest to the Amateur service.

Your "bulletins", made up of YOUR "opinion", do not meet the

test
of "general interest.


Explain, with citations.


No citation needed. Just spend a semester in a Freshman
journalism class.

Todd can broadcast his "shows" if he cares to, but just like
K1MAN, he gonna have to eventually face the federal music, Brian..
Don't take my word for it...A former FCC communications lawyer said so
himself in this forum.

There ya go.

Steve, K4YZ


N9OGL April 20th 05 09:00 AM

Steve,

you have to show me where me and Phil discussed information bulletins
because I saw was me and his discussion on low power FM.

Todd n9ogl


K4YZ April 20th 05 09:19 AM


N9OGL wrote:
Steve,

you have to show me where me and Phil discussed information bulletins
because I saw was me and his discussion on low power FM.


Oh NO, Todd....

You mean you WEREN'T PAYING ATTENTION...?!?!

Not, YOU..!!! I am so SHOCKED....(not!)

"...me and Phil..." Didn't discuss anything.

I asked Phil some very specific questions regarding your

alleged "bulletins", and he responded that indeed your actions were not
in compliance with Part 97. He further stated your statements
vis-a-vis made you ineligible for a broadcast license and could casue
your Amateur license to be reviewed before being routinely renewed next
time around...

Assuming, of course, you still HAVE an Amateur license TO
renew....

Steve, K4YZ


N9OGL April 20th 05 09:45 AM

Steve, if that's the case and I find out I'm on some ****ing list I'm
not only going to sue your ****ing ass but I'm going to sue that fat
asshole Phil. Believe me you ****ing piece of **** I ****ing will. So
you go tell that LYING fat **** what I told you.


K4YZ April 20th 05 10:04 AM


N9OGL wrote:
Steve, if that's the case and I find out I'm on some ####ing list I'm
not only going to sue your ####ing ### but I'm going to sue that fat
###hole Phil. Believe me you ####ing piece of #### I ####ing will. So
you go tell that LYING fat #### what I told you.


(1) Nothing Todd Daugherty, under ANY of his made up names, could
scare or impress me.

(2) Sue me for what? Reporting to the FCC that YOU have
acknowledged in a public forum that YOU have violated Federal
law...?!?! Sue me for reporting your profanities and threats in a
public forum...?!?! Have fun trying!

(3) Your profanity doesn't make you any bigger or badder. It
only makes you more profane and more idiotic.

(4) You're ALREADY on a list.

Have fun THINKING you can "sue" everyone, Todd. It only makes you
look more impotent (if that were possible) and more pathetic than you
already are. You've been watching too many re-runs of Perry Mason and
"L.A. Law".

Steve, K4YZ


Phil Harmonic April 20th 05 10:08 AM


"N9OGL" wrote in message
oups.com...
Steve, if that's the case and I find out I'm on some ****ing list I'm
not only going to sue your ****ing ass but I'm going to sue that fat
asshole Phil. Believe me you ****ing piece of **** I ****ing will. So
you go tell that LYING fat **** what I told you.


.................................................. ...........................
..................

Todd.
Step back three paces, take a deep breath and compose yourself.

First, no attorney you can afford to hire is going to "sue that fat asshole"
as you threaten.

Secondly, Todd...there is no "Believe me you ****ing piece of **** I ****ing
will".

You are blowing smoke and acting like the obtuse baby you are.

Please, Toddie, excuse me while I yawn, but make an effort to at least get
past your juvenile rants.

You are rather boring, Toddie.

Oh, Todd. The only "list" you are on so far?
That would be a **** List, Todd.
You put yourself there with your own rants....

You have only yourself to blame.





K4YZ April 20th 05 10:56 AM


Phil Harmonic wrote:
"N9OGL" wrote in message
oups.com...
Steve, if that's the case and I find out I'm on some ####ing list I'm
not only going to sue your ####ing ### but I'm going to sue that fat
###hole Phil. Believe me you ###ing piece of #### I ####ing will. So
you go tell that LYING fat #### what I told you.


Todd.
Step back three paces, take a deep breath and compose yourself.


Whoa, Phil...Being a bit presumptuous, aren't we?

Do we know that Todd can COUNT to three...?!?! =)

First, no attorney you can afford to hire is going to "sue that fat

###hole"
as you threaten.


These "I'M GOING TO SUE YOU" idiots are a dime a dozen. Weak
minded punks, one and all. There isn't a week goes by that a handful
of them don't pass through the ER...I've been an ER nurse for many
years now, and not a single one of them has come to fruition.

Todd doesn't scare me. He's too impotent.

Secondly, Todd...there is no "Believe me you ####ing piece of **** I

####ing
will".

You are blowing smoke and acting like the obtuse baby you are.


Wasn't that supposed to be "...like the OBESE baby you
are..."...?!?!

(I know, it wasn't...but I couldn't help it!)

73

Steve, K4YZ


N9OGL April 20th 05 11:04 AM

Steve,

He further stated your statements
vis-a-vis made you ineligible for a broadcast license


What do you mean by this?? My statements?? for your Information all
that **** I claimed I did was a while back and my license was recently
renewed....So I REALLY doubt anything will happen, Like I said there's
a lot more to it then you and your little bitch Phil knows about.
Todd N9OGL


K4YZ April 20th 05 11:13 AM


N9OGL wrote:
Steve,

He further stated your statements
vis-a-vis made you ineligible for a broadcast license


What do you mean by this?? My statements?? for your Information all
that #### I claimed I did was a while back and my license was

recently
renewed....


Todd, WHY do you insist on making a fool out of yourself?

Try staying sober, little boy and you MAY be able to follow the
flow of conversation.

So I REALLY doubt anything will happen, Like I said there's
a lot more to it then you and your little ##### Phil knows about.


My little what? I don't have any "######" by ANY name, Todd.

Steve, K4YZ


N9OGL April 20th 05 11:17 AM

(1) Nothing Todd Daugherty, under ANY of his made up names, could
scare or impress me.

FIRST there is no prohibiting using other names.

(2) Sue me for what? Reporting to the FCC that YOU have
acknowledged in a public forum that YOU have violated Federal

law...?!?! Sue me for reporting your profanities and threats in a
public forum...?!?! Have fun trying!


Violating what federal Law??? you have yet cited a rule or an FCC
decision.

First off this is a public fourm and you are NOT the moderator,
secondly you seem to be unable to grasp the concept that this is the
internet, Community standards that are forced on Broadcast and other
radio service (like the amateur radio service) doesn't apply to the
internet.

(4) You're ALREADY on a list.

Really, what list might that be???? the one W4NTI was talking about???
will se how long that last.

Todd N9OGL


Mr. Obvious April 20th 05 11:32 AM

My little what? I don't have any "######" by ANY name, Todd.

In HIS world you do...

And that should give you some insight as to the nature of the
inhabitants thereof; real or imaginary.


K4YZ April 20th 05 11:41 AM


N9OGL wrote:
(1) Nothing Todd Daugherty, under ANY of his made up names, could
scare or impress me.

FIRST there is no prohibiting using other names.

(2) Sue me for what? Reporting to the FCC that YOU have
acknowledged in a public forum that YOU have violated Federal

law...?!?! Sue me for reporting your profanities and threats in a
public forum...?!?! Have fun trying!


Violating what federal Law??? you have yet cited a rule or an FCC
decision.


Operating a "pirate" radio and TV station, Todd...

Or did you forget already?

First off this is a public fourm and you are NOT the moderator,
secondly you seem to be unable to grasp the concept that this is the
internet, Community standards that are forced on Broadcast and other
radio service (like the amateur radio service) doesn't apply to the
internet.


I haven't forgot that there's NO civilized forum where being
obnoxious and rude is acceptable.

(4) You're ALREADY on a list.

Really, what list might that be???? the one W4NTI was talking

about???
will se how long that last.


And what are you going to do about it, little boy?

"Sue" me...?!?!

Impotent toad!

BBBWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHA
! ! ! !

Nice try!

Steve, K4YZ


N9OGL April 20th 05 11:50 AM

Operating a "pirate" radio and TV station, Todd...
Or did you forget already?

my license has been renewed since that time, and like I said the FCC
knew about so did the Subcommittee on Telecommunication and I'm still
here, it seems that the FCC blew it off and /or don't want to bring it
up because like said there's a lot more there then what you think, and
the FCC doesn't want to touch it. Your best bet is to foget about it
and get on with you life.


N9OGL April 20th 05 11:51 AM

And what are you going to do about it, little boy?
"Sue" me...?!?!


No, but I'm working on it.
todd N9OGL


K4YZ April 20th 05 12:32 PM


N9OGL wrote:
And what are you going to do about it, little boy?
"Sue" me...?!?!


No, but I'm working on it.


You're working on nothing, Toiddie.

The sum total of your "actions" will be limited to lashing out on
your blog, making up even more an more ludicrous stories as you go.

You'll do nothing because you ARE nothing, Todd.

There's not a lawyer with any self respect who would humiliate
himself by trying to take your "case" into court, Todd. The only "case"
you have can be resolved with Penicillin.

And anything else you might try to do on your own will no doubt
get you incarcerated, institutionalized or hospitalized.

You're a joke, Toiddie, and we're all having a good laugh!

Steve, K4YZ


KC8GXW April 20th 05 01:34 PM



N9OGL wrote:

Steve,

you have to show me where me and Phil discussed information bulletins
because I saw was me and his discussion on low power FM.

Todd n9ogl


I see you're back on your meds, I think the dose is a little too high
though.


KC8GXW April 20th 05 01:37 PM



N9OGL wrote:

Steve, if that's the case and I find out I'm on some ****ing list I'm
not only going to sue your ****ing ass but I'm going to sue that fat
asshole Phil. Believe me you ****ing piece of **** I ****ing will. So
you go tell that LYING fat **** what I told you.


Toady, you have people on list and we all know it's lies, aren't you
afraid that if the law would let you sue for being on a list, then the
law can do the same to your lying self?


Dave Heil April 20th 05 04:46 PM

N9OGL wrote:

my license has been renewed since that time, and like I said the FCC
knew about so did the Subcommittee on Telecommunication and I'm still
here, it seems that the FCC blew it off and /or don't want to bring it
up because like said there's a lot more there then what you think, and
the FCC doesn't want to touch it.


There's no indication at all that "the FCC doesn't want to touch it",
Todd. It may well be that no one at the FCC is aware of your background
and activities.

Your best bet is to foget about it
and get on with you life.


There's no obligation on anyone's part to "foget" about it. Some might
feel an obligation to bring a blatant scofflaw's activities to the
attention of the proper authorities. Folks with ethics and principles
might feel that is the right thing to do. They might feel that anyone
with a disregard for broadcast regulations would likely have the same
disregard for amateur radio regulations.

Dave Heil

Dave Heil April 20th 05 04:50 PM

N9OGL wrote:

Steve, if that's the case and I find out I'm on some f--king list I'm
not only going to sue your f--king ass but I'm going to sue that fat
asshole Phil.


Sure, you will, Todd. ;-)

Believe me you f--king piece of s--t I f--king will.


I don't believe you, Todd and I don't think there are many here who
believe you. You'll likely continue the same profane rants you've been
posting up to this point.

So you go tell that LYING fat f--k what I told you.


Haven't you just informed him through your post?

Dave K8MN

Cmd Buzz Corey April 20th 05 09:58 PM

N9OGL wrote:
Steve, if that's the case and I find out I'm on some ****ing list I'm
not only going to sue your ****ing ass but I'm going to sue that fat
asshole Phil. Believe me you ****ing piece of **** I ****ing will. So
you go tell that LYING fat **** what I told you.


You need to grow up toddieboy!!

bb April 21st 05 01:10 AM


K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
N9OGL wrote:
Ok, Mister Wizard, answer me this question, where in the FCC

rules
or
a
FCC decision does it state that an information bulletin can not

be
opinionated??? please quote it from rule or statement from the

FCC.

You say I'm in violation of federal law so please enlighten me

which
laws am I in violation of?

Once you have tainted "information" with individual opinion,

it
is
no longer information, but editorial.


Tell it to Dan Rather.


Oh...You mean the SMAE Dan Rather that's humuiated himself

lately
by "going live" with "stories" that were unsubstantiated and patently
false on the face of it?

FCC rules and regulations allow for the transmission of

bulletins
of general interest to the Amateur service.

Your "bulletins", made up of YOUR "opinion", do not meet the

test
of "general interest.


Explain, with citations.


No citation needed. Just spend a semester in a Freshman
journalism class.


Nope. Too many have done just that to ill effect.

Were all of the ARRL bulletins wrt BPL free of opinion?


Dave Heil April 21st 05 05:45 AM

George Orwell wrote:

In article
Dave Heil wrote:

N9OGL wrote:

Steve, if that's the case and I find out I'm on some f--king

list I'm
not only going to sue your f--king ass but I'm going to sue

that fat
asshole Phil.


Sure, you will, Todd. ;-)


Just like you say you'll sue people, Nazi.


When have I done so, Roger/UnWiseman?

Believe me you f--king piece of s--t I f--king will.


I don't believe you, Todd and I don't think there are many

here who
believe you. You'll likely continue the same profane rants

you've been
posting up to this point.


Have you whined to his local police chief yet, p---y boy Nazi?


Nope, just yours.

So you go tell that LYING fat f--k what I told you.


Haven't you just informed him through your post?


It's akin to your uninformitive posts, Nazi.


Actually Roger/Not Roger, Todd's post more closely resemble your own.
The vocabulary is similarly limited. You both have emotional problems
and difficulty relating to society. Both of you issue threats of
violence which both of you are too timid to attempt to carry out. The
biggest difference between you is that Todd doesn't look like a Stephen
King troll doll.

Dave K8MN

K4YZ April 21st 05 02:32 PM


Userbeam Remailer wrote:
In article


And you and your toadie Nursie Steve are the biggest
liars on the group.


The simple fact that you won't sign your name and take
resposibility for your own opinions make YOU and your other Anonymous
Lying Coward buddies that....Even ahead of Lennie, Brain and Todd.

Considering how easy it is to obtain Viagra, Cialis, etc, I'd
thing you little boys would have stopped this behaviour and gotten on
with your lives.

Oh well.

Steve, K4YZ


Dave Heil April 21st 05 10:37 PM

Userbeam Remailer wrote:

In article
Dave Heil wrote:

When have I done so, Roger/UnWiseman?


You run your mouth all the time, Nazi.


You're hearing my voice? I'm only typing. I'm not affiliated with any
National Socialist group anywhere on the planet. I can, however,
understand how you might believe that anyone opposed to your vile
postings would be considered to be a National Socialist. After all,
there are any number of groups who would take offense at your output.

Oh, and no matter how
many times you blather that lie, I'm still not Roger Wiseman, un
or not. And you and your toadie Nursie Steve are the biggest
liars on the group.


It must be difficult for you, unable to come out as yourself, having to
hide behind anonymous remailers because you fear the outcome if you
reveal yourself. You're reduced to verbal sniping while hiding under a
rock. You can only lose so many ISP's and you certainly don't want to
give the authorities any easy evidence against you. If I were in your
shoes, I'd deny being Wiseman too.

Nope, just yours.


Nope. Not mine. Maybe Wiseman's. Thanks for aditting you did
whine.


I'm sure that you consider anyone reporting vile comments about another,
his wife, his children and his parents to be whining. You'll probably
not understand why anyone would talk to the police after you'd issued
posts about him in which you spew filth involving homosexual activities,
pedophilia or incest.

Why don't you whine to Toad's police chief?


Todd isn't local to me, hasn't posted anything about my wife, children
or parents.

Or you think
you'd get told to f--k off and quit wasting valuable police
resources, like before?


That certainly didn't happen the number of times I visited Glen Dale
Police in your case, Roger/not Roger. They were familiar with you and
asked that I forward e-mail and newsgroup posts. I've done so on a
number of occasions. They certainly didn't view my visits as a waste of
time or resources. They're concerned. You should be too.

Or are you too f--king stupid to either ignore it or use a
killfile?


I shouldn't have to put up with it at all. As far as a killfile is
concerned, it'd work if you used one or two e-mail addresses but the
material would still be there. If you'd use some self-control on your
written form of Tourette's Syndrome, there'd be no need to killfile you.

Actually Actually Roger/Not Roger, Todd's post more closely resemble
your own. The vocabulary is similarly limited. You both have emotional problems and difficulty relating to society. Both of you
issue threats of violence which both of you are too timid to attempt
to carry out. The biggest difference between you is that Todd doesn't look like a Stephen King troll doll.


whines and backpedals from the Nazi with a fat gut
and a bad comb-over


Why, UnWiseman, are you fixated on my hair? Your powers of observation
aren't very good and you're short. I have a full head of salt and
pepper gray hair. Would you care for an 8 x 10 color glossy? Perhaps
if you ever attend another Marshall County ARES meeting or a Field Day,
I can arrange for a step stool.

Actually, you are uninformative.


I can be quite informative, Roger/UnRoger. You need to turn your
receiver on.

Poor Nazi.

You're 0 for 2. I'm neither poor nor a Nazi.

Soothe your oh-so-damaged-ego by tapping out some Morse Code.


Well, there's a peculiar idea. Does that work for you?

Dave K8MN


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