Would You Believe N9OGL Is A Member Of......
 

According to his eHam profile, Toddie is an...

ARMY MARS MEMBER!

QUOTE

I am a member of the following ham radio clubs...
Army M.A.R.S. Christian County Amateur Radio Club (CCARC)

UNQUOTE

Good thing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" doesn't apply to MARS, eh,
Toddie...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
According to his eHam profile, Toddie is an...

ARMY MARS MEMBER!

QUOTE

I am a member of the following ham radio clubs...
Army M.A.R.S. Christian County Amateur Radio Club (CCARC)

UNQUOTE

Good thing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" doesn't apply to MARS, eh,
Toddie...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

Steve, what's it to you? You have no understanding of MARS.

bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
According to his eHam profile, Toddie is an...

ARMY MARS MEMBER!

QUOTE

I am a member of the following ham radio clubs...
Army M.A.R.S. Christian County Amateur Radio Club (CCARC)

UNQUOTE

Good thing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" doesn't apply to MARS, eh,
Toddie...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

Steve, what's it to you? You have no understanding of MARS.

Why do you want to utter yet ANOTHER mistruth, Brian, when you
have so many others out here that you still have yet to answer to?

As noted previously, Brian, I've been a member of each MARS at one
time or another for different reasons, and have been in charge of an
island-wide system on Okinawa for six months.

My undersanding of the program, it's history, purpose and goals
far exceeds anything you or Lennie the Lame can cut-and-past from
internet URL's.

Steve, K4YZ

From: "bb" on Thurs,Apr 21 2005 4:50 pm

K4YZ wrote:
According to his eHam profile, Toddie is an...

ARMY MARS MEMBER!

QUOTE

I am a member of the following ham radio clubs...
Army M.A.R.S. Christian County Amateur Radio Club (CCARC)

UNQUOTE

Good thing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" doesn't apply to MARS, eh,
Toddie...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

Steve, what's it to you? You have no understanding of MARS.

The planet, the candy bar, or MILITARY Affiliate Radio
System? :-)

"Sorry, Hans, MARS IS amateur radio."

Poor Stevie still thinks that hams started it and
run it, too.

The United States ARMY started what would become
MARS before WW2. That was in an effort to "get
civilian radio amateurs interested in MILITARY
radio operations. The acronym was formed after WW2
when USAF joined the Army in the system. The last
branch to join MARS was the USN (and USMC by
extension).

MARS has performed well in the 60s to 70s as a
morale booster for the military personnel away from
home, courtesy of many civilian MARS operators (who
have amateur calls) placing telephone calls for them.

However, MARS is definitely still a MILITARY op and
the Department of Defense DIRECTS MARS. Stevie has
been shown the link to the DoD page but he won't
concede to going there and reading it. [he may think
it is a "trick" by others to lead him to a different
website] The DoD may be reached by direct, independent
search available on all ISPs.

Each military branch maintains their own MARS Hq.
For example, the Army MARS headquarters is at Fort
Huachuca, AZ. MARS is a regular participant in
"Grecian Firebolt" radio networking exercises carried
out by GOVERNMENT and MILITARY organizations having
intrinsic radio networking ability. Exercises like those can
and HAVE been done successfully WITHOUT any
civilian volunteer participation. MARS is NOT part of
the regular military communications scheme, only a sort
of standby which exists primarily for inter-service morale
boosting.

Stevie keeps enobling himself by implications of
relationship of his amateur status to that of MARS.
This is akin to his implications of "participation"
in the famous "seven hostile actions." :-)

wrote:
From: "bb" on Thurs,Apr 21 2005 4:50 pm

K4YZ wrote:
According to his eHam profile, Toddie is an...

ARMY MARS MEMBER!

QUOTE

I am a member of the following ham radio clubs...
Army M.A.R.S. Christian County Amateur Radio Club (CCARC)

UNQUOTE

Good thing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" doesn't apply to MARS, eh,
Toddie...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

Steve, what's it to you? You have no understanding of MARS.

The planet, the candy bar, or MILITARY Affiliate Radio
System?

"Sorry, Hans, MARS IS amateur radio."

Poor Stevie still thinks that hams started it and
run it, too.

And here's yet ANOTHER lie that Leonard H. Anderson ahs to account
for...

I never said they (Amateurs) started it. You are welcome to try
and locate the post wherein you insist I did.

I didn't say they "ran" it. You are welcome to try and locate the
post wherein you insist I did.

I DID say that without the Amateur Radio service, MARS would not
exist. This still remains true to this day.

Stevie keeps enobling himself by implications of
relationship of his amateur status to that of MARS.
This is akin to his implications of "participation"
in the famous "seven hostile actions."

I'm not "enobling" myself for having shown that I was a previous
MARS member, Lennie. Those are facts. It validates My knowledge and
experience in MARS that substantiates my assertion that without Amateur
Radio, MARS would cease to exist.

You are welcome to list YOUR MARS callsigns, Lennie, and tell us
all about YOUR experiences in the programs....

You have the callsigns and dates I was a member. You may verify
my experiences at your leisure.





Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
According to his eHam profile, Toddie is an...

ARMY MARS MEMBER!

QUOTE

I am a member of the following ham radio clubs...
Army M.A.R.S. Christian County Amateur Radio Club (CCARC)

UNQUOTE

Good thing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" doesn't apply to MARS, eh,
Toddie...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

Steve, what's it to you? You have no understanding of MARS.

Why do you want to utter yet ANOTHER mistruth, Brian, when you
have so many others out here that you still have yet to answer to?

No mistruth, Steve.

You are the one who claimed, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio!"
Hi, hi!

As noted previously, Brian, I've been a member of each MARS at
one
time or another for different reasons,

Wow, I didn't realize that there were different reasons for being a
member. I guess the different services have markedly different
purposes and goals.

and have been in charge of an
island-wide system on Okinawa for six months.

That would have been funny to see. Can you give us some details of
your "In-Charge" time so that we can verify it? We'll Start with a
copy of your USN MARS license, and a letter from the installation
Commander assigning you such duties. Then we'll need corroborating
information from your customers and subordinates. This will be fun!

My undersanding of the program, it's history, purpose and goals
far exceeds anything you or Lennie the Lame can cut-and-past from
internet URL's.

Steve, K4YZ

We'll let you prove that with the above requested information.

And none of this "Seven Hostile Actions" stuff.

Best of Luck!

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:

The planet, the candy bar, or MILITARY Affiliate Radio
System?

You have the callsigns and dates I was a member. You may verify
my experiences at your leisure.

Heh, heh, heh. Care to share all that "in-confidence" information with
the rest of us?

bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:

The planet, the candy bar, or MILITARY Affiliate Radio
System?

You have the callsigns and dates I was a member. You may
verify
my experiences at your leisure.

Heh, heh, heh. Care to share all that "in-confidence" information
with
the rest of us?

Why?

Was the post I made in this forum only a day or two ago not
adequate for you too?

Don't tell me you WEREN'T PAYING ATTENTION again, were you,
Brain...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
According to his eHam profile, Toddie is an...

ARMY MARS MEMBER!

QUOTE

I am a member of the following ham radio clubs...
Army M.A.R.S. Christian County Amateur Radio Club (CCARC)

UNQUOTE

Good thing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" doesn't apply to MARS, eh,
Toddie...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

Steve, what's it to you? You have no understanding of MARS.

Why do you want to utter yet ANOTHER mistruth, Brian, when you
have so many others out here that you still have yet to answer to?

No mistruth, Steve.

COMPLETE mistruth, Brain.

You are the one who claimed, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur
Radio!"

As noted previously, Brian, I've been a member of each MARS at
one
time or another for different reasons,

Wow, I didn't realize that there were different reasons for being a
member. I guess the different services have markedly different
purposes and goals.

They do, to some degree. That's why you have USMC and USN units
with NMC MARS calls and not AFMARS calls, and vice-versa.

and have been in charge of an
island-wide system on Okinawa for six months.

That would have been funny to see. Can you give us some details of
your "In-Charge" time so that we can verify it? We'll Start with a
copy of your USN MARS license, and a letter from the installation
Commander assigning you such duties. Then we'll need corroborating
information from your customers and subordinates. This will be fun!

You need to wake up, Brain.

Callsigns, dates and locations were given in another thread just
within the last two days.

Feel free to research my duty assignments during those times.

My undersanding of the program, it's history, purpose and
goals
far exceeds anything you or Lennie the Lame can cut-and-past from
internet URL's.

Steve, K4YZ

We'll let you prove that with the above requested information.

The "above requested information" was posted in RRAP this week.

And none of this "Seven Hostile Actions" stuff.

That happened too. It's just not pertinent to this forum.

Best of Luck!

No...best of luck to YOU...explaining how you didn't see those
callsigns, dates, locations I already gave...

You're such a putz, Brain.....

Steve, K4YZ

From: "K4YZ" on Fri,Apr 22 2005 2:34 pm

wrote:
From: "bb" on Thurs,Apr 21 2005 4:50 pm

K4YZ wrote:
According to his eHam profile, Toddie is an...

ARMY MARS MEMBER!

QUOTE

I am a member of the following ham radio clubs...
Army M.A.R.S. Christian County Amateur Radio Club (CCARC)

UNQUOTE

Good thing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" doesn't apply to MARS, eh,
Toddie...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

Steve, what's it to you? You have no understanding of MARS.

The planet, the candy bar, or MILITARY Affiliate Radio
System?

"Sorry, Hans, MARS IS amateur radio."

Poor Stevie still thinks that hams started it and
run it, too.

And here's yet ANOTHER lie that Leonard H. Anderson ahs to account
for...

Tsk, tsk, tsk. The UNITED STATES ARMY said that THEY
started MARS. I just repeated it. No lie at all. :-)

Don't get too angry with those typos like "ahs."

Or is that some kind of TN accent?

I never said they (Amateurs) started it. You are welcome to try
and locate the post wherein you insist I did.

You ARE going to say that at the end of your "reply."

I didn't say they "ran" it. You are welcome to try and locate
the
post wherein you insist I did.

Tsk, tsk, tsk...YOU said "MARS IS amateur radio."
Put that way, the only interpretation can be that
MARS is "all" about amateurs. It isn't.

I DID say that without the Amateur Radio service, MARS would not
exist. This still remains true to this day.

Untrue. MARS did NOT "begin" with amateurs but rather
the U.S. military. The ARMY to be exact.

MARS exists because the DoD says that MARS exists.
Each major branch of the U.S. military maintains
their own MARS headquarters. MARS continues to
function with or without any civilian volunteers.
That is referencible by documents outside of the
ARRL. [the ARRL does not run MARS]

I'm not "enobling" myself for having shown that I was a previous
MARS member, Lennie. Those are facts. It validates My knowledge and
experience in MARS that substantiates my assertion that without
Amateur
Radio, MARS would cease to exist.

MARS was formed by a few members of the U.S. Army
prior to World War II. The purpose of this small
Army function was to get civilian radio amateurs
interested in military communications and "possibly"
contribute to the state of the art of military
communications. That was a rather grandiose view of
the few in that first MARS organization (under another
name then). In the main, the remainder of the military
(wisely) considered themselves and their mission to be
of importance, especially in the growing hostilities
around the world in the 1930s.

There is enough referencible material on the history
of military radio to show that there was LITTLE
influence on military communications by the few
amateurs who had volunteered to be a part of this
Army experiment. The major part of the experiment
was focussed on Public Relations, NOT on the civilian
volunteers actually being any part of military radio
(the military had enough paid civilian employees for
that purpose).

After World War Two, and just after the split-off of
the Army Air Corps to form the United States Air
Force, the new USAF combined with the USA and changed
its name to the present MARS or MILITARY Affiliate
Radio System. Eventually the USN joined in that.
The role of MARS focussed now on the morale issues of
the widespread military spread beyond our shores.
The "phone patches" became a regular part of civilian
volunteer efforts as well as the "radiograms" forwarded
when voice telephone contact could not be made. That
was an excellent service to our military at the time.

By the 1980s the needs for any "phone patches" were
dwindling rapidly. One reason was improved means of
communications for military personnel off-shore. By
the mid-1990s the DSN had spread to U.S. bases off-
shore and was growing at an amazing rate. The DSN or
Digital Switched Network has been described as "the
government's own Internet" and functions the same.
A major difference is that the DSN can connect directly
to the Internet and it is possible for individual
service members in many locations to communicate
directly with their family and friends back home.
Computers have become a part of military operations.

The mission of MARS had shifted to become a sort of
liason between the military and other government
agencies. That served its original post-WW2 role as
a sort of back-up system, an actual affiliate. An
affiliate is NOT part of the day-to-day military
communications system but can "work with it." That
MARS can function on its own, without civilian
volunteers, has been proven in the previous Operation
Grecian Firebolt annual military-government exercises.

You are welcome to list YOUR MARS callsigns, Lennie, and tell us
all about YOUR experiences in the programs....

"Experience" is NOT a requirement. There is much
history of MARS available to anyone who will bother
to look beyond the PR of the ARRL. The Fort Huachuca,
AZ, military website is a good place to investigate
for information. Huachuca is mainly the Army's Military
Intelligence School as well as a hub of military
communications. Huachuca also trains UAV teams for
unmanned aerial reconnaisance (what UAVs are designed
and operated for) and other M.I. skills, including the
center for the last morse code cognition (receiving
only) schooling for the entire U.S. government. MARS
(Army) Hq is a small part of the sum total of Fort
Huachuca activities.

As to actually "working with MARS," station ADA had
one 1 KW FSK RTTY transmitter on tertiary priority for
the MARS facility at Far East Command Headquarters in
Tokyo in the early 1950s. First priority was to the
FEC Commander's aircraft should he be aloft. Secondary
was to back-up of either Anchorage or Seattle radio
circuits, depending on traffic needs. I don't recall
any time that the MARS facility at Pershing Heights
was actually granted use of that one transmitter between
1953 and 1954; they had asked often enough but Control
had the final say. By late 1955 the MARS facility was
moved to Hardy Barracks and they got their own tri-
bander and (perhaps) a better transmitter; Pershing
Heights was given back to the Japanese (it was their
old War Ministry) and the ADA transmitter site increased
to 43 transmitters from 36 and relocated to Camp
Tomlinson (a converted airfield) NE of Tokyo. MARS
messaging had to use regular TTY routings, again in
low priority, even being behind the Red Cross messages
carried over RUAP (the TTY node name used then).

You have the callsigns and dates I was a member. You may verify
my experiences at your leisure.

Irrelevant. MARS existed before Stevie existed. The
DoD DIRECTS MARS. The major service branches all have
their MARS Hqs and all supply information on their
activities. The Army Communicator (from Fort Gordon,
GA) and SIGNAL (from AFCEA, the military-civilian
Armed Forces Communications-Electronics Association)
both have published information in those periodicals.
[archives are available for viewing at their
respective websites] MARS is a *small* part of
military communications, not in the mainstream. The
AFRTS is much bigger and DOES have an extraordinary
number of civilian volunteers (primarily from the
entertainment industry). MARS works with SHARES, the
SHAred RESources of the government insofar as government
radio stations exist (2500 give or take, not part of
AFRTS and not part of regular military communications
nor part of regular civilian-government DSN, AUTOVON,
AUTODIN. et al networking).

As to "Mars," the planet, I've been privileged to view
real-time (in solar system time terms) data and video
arrive from the first successful Mars lander at JPL.
A super-tense time (years before the little rovers)
since that was a definite FIRST then.

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
According to his eHam profile, Toddie is an...

ARMY MARS MEMBER!

QUOTE

I am a member of the following ham radio clubs...
Army M.A.R.S. Christian County Amateur Radio Club (CCARC)

UNQUOTE

Good thing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" doesn't apply to MARS, eh,
Toddie...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

Steve, what's it to you? You have no understanding of MARS.

Why do you want to utter yet ANOTHER mistruth, Brian, when
you
have so many others out here that you still have yet to answer
to?

No mistruth, Steve.

COMPLETE mistruth, Brain.

Complete lie. After all, you're the one who claimed that "Sorry Hans,
MARS IS Amateur Radio!"

You are the one who claimed, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur
Radio!"

As noted previously, Brian, I've been a member of each MARS
at
one
time or another for different reasons,

Wow, I didn't realize that there were different reasons for being a
member. I guess the different services have markedly different
purposes and goals.

They do, to some degree. That's why you have USMC and USN units
with NMC MARS calls and not AFMARS calls, and vice-versa.

That is such a thin, thin difference, but when you have nothing else,
you'll say and do anything so as not to be wrong.

So what was the reason you were a MARS member the first time? The
second time? Was there a third time?

and have been in charge of an
island-wide system on Okinawa for six months.

That would have been funny to see. Can you give us some details of
your "In-Charge" time so that we can verify it? We'll Start with a
copy of your USN MARS license, and a letter from the installation
Commander assigning you such duties. Then we'll need corroborating
information from your customers and subordinates. This will be
fun!

You need to wake up, Brain.

Wide awake.

Callsigns, dates and locations were given in another thread just
within the last two days.

I don't hang on to your every post, Steve, especially the ones with
your new rra.misc playmates.

Feel free to research my duty assignments during those times.

Kindly repost them here.

My undersanding of the program, it's history, purpose and
goals
far exceeds anything you or Lennie the Lame can cut-and-past from
internet URL's.

Steve, K4YZ

We'll let you prove that with the above requested information.

The "above requested information" was posted in RRAP this week.

So you say.

And none of this "Seven Hostile Actions" stuff.

That happened too. It's just not pertinent to this forum.

But Steve, you're the one constantly saying that if you can't post
documentation, it didn't happen. Were you lying then or are you lying
now?

Hmmm? Which number lie would that be?

Best of Luck!

No...best of luck to YOU...explaining how you didn't see those
callsigns, dates, locations I already gave...

I try to avoid your record number of meaningful exchanges with your new
playmates from rra.misc. Did you include the letter of appointment
from your Commander?

You're such a putz, Brain.....

Name calling, again? So much for meaningful Extra Class discourse.
You do your fellow Extra Class amateurs and the ARS proud. ARRL
member, too?

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:

The planet, the candy bar, or MILITARY Affiliate Radio
System?

You have the callsigns and dates I was a member. You may
verify
my experiences at your leisure.

Heh, heh, heh. Care to share all that "in-confidence" information
with
the rest of us?

Why?

Just to see you go over the deep end, again.

Was the post I made in this forum only a day or two ago not
adequate for you too?

Dunno? I haven't seen it. If it points to a url where the documents
have been scanned in, especially the letter of appointment from your
commander...

Don't tell me you WEREN'T PAYING ATTENTION again, were you,
Brain...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

Are you really worth paying attention to? Years of lying, name
calling, and SHOUTING?

wrote:
From: "K4YZ" on Fri,Apr 22 2005 2:34 pm

wrote:
From: "bb" on Thurs,Apr 21 2005 4:50 pm

K4YZ wrote:
According to his eHam profile, Toddie is an...

ARMY MARS MEMBER!

QUOTE

I am a member of the following ham radio clubs...
Army M.A.R.S. Christian County Amateur Radio Club (CCARC)

UNQUOTE

Good thing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" doesn't apply to MARS, eh,
Toddie...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

Steve, what's it to you? You have no understanding of MARS.

The planet, the candy bar, or MILITARY Affiliate Radio
System?

"Sorry, Hans, MARS IS amateur radio."

Poor Stevie still thinks that hams started it and
run it, too.

And here's yet ANOTHER lie that Leonard H. Anderson ahs to
account
for...

Tsk, tsk, tsk. The UNITED STATES ARMY said that THEY
started MARS. I just repeated it. No lie at all.

Yes, you have.

And you have lied when you have stated that I said Amateur Radio
operators started MARS. I am still waiting for you to produce the post
wherein you think I said otherwise.

Don't get too angry with those typos like "ahs."

Or is that some kind of TN accent?

I never said they (Amateurs) started it. You are welcome to
try
and locate the post wherein you insist I did.

You ARE going to say that at the end of your "reply."

Still waiting, Lennie...Of course "we" know it won't be coming
since it never happened...

I didn't say they "ran" it. You are welcome to try and locate
the
post wherein you insist I did.

Tsk, tsk, tsk...YOU said "MARS IS amateur radio."
Put that way, the only interpretation can be that
MARS is "all" about amateurs. It isn't.

No, that's not "the only interpretation". That's YOUR
interpretation...it was wrong today, it was wrong yesterday, and it
will be wrong tomorrow.

I DID say that without the Amateur Radio service, MARS would
not
exist. This still remains true to this day.

Untrue. MARS did NOT "begin" with amateurs but rather
the U.S. military. The ARMY to be exact.

It doesn't matter HOW it STARTED...It's what it is today.

MARS exists because the DoD says that MARS exists.
Each major branch of the U.S. military maintains
their own MARS headquarters. MARS continues to
function with or without any civilian volunteers.
That is referencible by documents outside of the
ARRL. [the ARRL does not run MARS]

DoD's enabling documents allows MARS to exist as long as it
doesn't put any significant drain on funds or manpower.

At present, more than 90% of all MARS membership is civilian
Amateur licensees.

I'm not "enobling" myself for having shown that I was a previous
MARS member, Lennie. Those are facts. It validates My knowledge
and
experience in MARS that substantiates my assertion that without
Amateur
Radio, MARS would cease to exist.

MARS was formed by a few members of the U.S. Army
prior to World War II...

Snip...

Yet another history lesson for you to duck behind does not change
current events, Lennie.

No Amateur Radio = No MARS.

You are welcome to list YOUR MARS callsigns, Lennie, and tell
us
all about YOUR experiences in the programs....

"Experience" is NOT a requirement.

Sure it is, Lennie...

You must have "EXPERIENCED" getting an Amateur license before you
can be an enrolled member.

Your cut-and-paste history lessons keep you busy, Lennie, but AS
USUAL, you don't have all the FACTS.

You have the callsigns and dates I was a member. You may
verify
my experiences at your leisure.

Irrelevant.

I always love it how YOU can say that actual, relevent experience
is IR-relevent, yet when anyone a day younger than you speaks up on any
historical item of radio, you nay-say it as false since we could not
have known...!

MARS existed before Stevie existed.

MARS existed before Lennie existed, too.

The difference is that Stevie has several YEARS of experience in
MARS. Lennie does not.

More, "I'll dodge behind this" stuff snipped.

As to "Mars," the planet...(SNIP)

Missing home?





Steve, K4YZ

bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

No mistruth, Steve.

COMPLETE mistruth, Brain.

Complete lie. After all, you're the one who claimed that "Sorry
Hans,
MARS IS Amateur Radio!"

Yes, I did.

And you're the one who keeps quoting it out of context as if it
were something like "...they chased all the Techs away" or something.

Wow, I didn't realize that there were different reasons for being
a
member. I guess the different services have markedly different
purposes and goals.

They do, to some degree. That's why you have USMC and USN units
with NMC MARS calls and not AFMARS calls, and vice-versa.

That is such a thin, thin difference, but when you have nothing else,
you'll say and do anything so as not to be wrong.

Hardly a "thin difference", Brain.

So what was the reason you were a MARS member the first time? The
second time? Was there a third time?

Did you read the other posts? Why don't you pay attention, Brain?

and have been in charge of an
island-wide system on Okinawa for six months.

That would have been funny to see. Can you give us some details
of
your "In-Charge" time so that we can verify it? We'll Start with
a
copy of your USN MARS license, and a letter from the installation
Commander assigning you such duties. Then we'll need
corroborating
information from your customers and subordinates. This will be
fun!

You need to wake up, Brain.

Wide awake.

Obviously not. You not only missed or ignored the posts I was
addressing earlier, you've done nothing to go back and fill yourself
in.

Callsigns, dates and locations were given in another thread
just
within the last two days.

I don't hang on to your every post, Steve, especially the ones with
your new rra.misc playmates.

Sure...You just ignore posts unless you think you can let a zinger
of your own fly...

Of course, what you've done for THREE POSTS now is demonstrate that
you're inept AND lazy.

Feel free to research my duty assignments during those times.

Kindly repost them here.

Find them yourself, Brain. It's only been two days.

The "above requested information" was posted in RRAP this
week.

So you say.

So I did. Ask anyone else you care to ask, Brain.

And none of this "Seven Hostile Actions" stuff.

That happened too. It's just not pertinent to this forum.

But Steve, you're the one constantly saying that if you can't post
documentation, it didn't happen. Were you lying then or are you
lying
now?

Not lying then OR now.

It's here already...this week...Show some initiative and find
it...

Hmmm? Which number lie would that be?

Number none.

Best of Luck!

No...best of luck to YOU...explaining how you didn't see those
callsigns, dates, locations I already gave...

I try to avoid your record number of meaningful exchanges with your
new
playmates from rra.misc. Did you include the letter of appointment
from your Commander?

Nope. But the dates, times, locations are there. You're welcome
to verify them on your own.

You're such a putz, Brain.....

Name calling, again? So much for meaningful Extra Class discourse.
You do your fellow Extra Class amateurs and the ARS proud. ARRL
member, too?

It has nothing to do with any memberships or licensures, Brain.

It has to do with you being a demonstrated putz.

Now...about all those Techs that have been allegedly chased
away..by who and where...???

Steve, K4YZ

"K4YZ" wrote in message
oups.com...

wrote:

[snip]

Untrue. MARS did NOT "begin" with amateurs but rather
the U.S. military. The ARMY to be exact.

It doesn't matter HOW it STARTED...It's what it is today.


http://www.marsgateway.net/history.html

It certainly looks like MARS has always been centered around amateurs even
from its inception if you read the brief history on the MARS website.

In addition, if a person bothers to look at all the initials, the second
word is AFFILIATE. So when anyone homes in on the first word, they are
missing the effect of the subsequent modifiers and thus the meaning of the
phrase.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

No mistruth, Steve.

COMPLETE mistruth, Brain.

Complete lie. After all, you're the one who claimed that "Sorry
Hans,
MARS IS Amateur Radio!"

Yes, I did.

And you're the one who keeps quoting it out of context as if it
were something like "...they chased all the Techs away" or something.

There is no "out of context." That is exactly what you said, and
you've had a long, long time to correct yourself.

Wow, I didn't realize that there were different reasons for
being
a
member. I guess the different services have markedly different
purposes and goals.

They do, to some degree. That's why you have USMC and USN
units
with NMC MARS calls and not AFMARS calls, and vice-versa.

That is such a thin, thin difference, but when you have nothing
else,
you'll say and do anything so as not to be wrong.

Hardly a "thin difference", Brain.

Anything to keep from being wrong.

So what was the reason you were a MARS member the first time? The
second time? Was there a third time?

Did you read the other posts? Why don't you pay attention,
Brain?

So what was it?

and have been in charge of an
island-wide system on Okinawa for six months.

That would have been funny to see. Can you give us some
details
of
your "In-Charge" time so that we can verify it? We'll Start
with
a
copy of your USN MARS license, and a letter from the
installation
Commander assigning you such duties. Then we'll need
corroborating
information from your customers and subordinates. This will be
fun!

You need to wake up, Brain.

Wide awake.

Obviously not. You not only missed or ignored the posts I was
addressing earlier, you've done nothing to go back and fill yourself
in.

OK. Which thread, of you all too numerous new threads, was it in? Who
were you replying to?

Callsigns, dates and locations were given in another thread
just
within the last two days.

I don't hang on to your every post, Steve, especially the ones with
your new rra.misc playmates.

Sure...You just ignore posts unless you think you can let a
zinger
of your own fly...

Huh? Your ignorance of MARS is well documented. No zinger, just a
well known and documented FACT!

Of course, what you've done for THREE POSTS now is demonstrate
that
you're inept AND lazy.

My accusations that you are ignorant of MARS is correct.

Feel free to research my duty assignments during those
times.

Kindly repost them here.

Find them yourself, Brain. It's only been two days.

Earth days, or MARS days?

The "above requested information" was posted in RRAP this
week.

So you say.

So I did. Ask anyone else you care to ask, Brain.

Jim, is this true?

And none of this "Seven Hostile Actions" stuff.

That happened too. It's just not pertinent to this forum.

But Steve, you're the one constantly saying that if you can't post
documentation, it didn't happen. Were you lying then or are you
lying
now?

Not lying then OR now.

Has to be one or the other, Steve.

It's here already...this week...Show some initiative and find
it...

Documentation, Steve, documentation. Simply saying you did something
is not documentation. Scan in your license(s) and your appointment
letter.

Hmmm? Which number lie would that be?

Number none.

No, no. You're up to about #27 or so.

Best of Luck!

No...best of luck to YOU...explaining how you didn't see
those
callsigns, dates, locations I already gave...

I try to avoid your record number of meaningful exchanges with your
new
playmates from rra.misc. Did you include the letter of appointment
from your Commander?

Nope. But the dates, times, locations are there. You're
welcome
to verify them on your own.

You need to scan in the DOCUMENTATION. Best of Luck.

You're such a putz, Brain.....

Name calling, again? So much for meaningful Extra Class discourse.
You do your fellow Extra Class amateurs and the ARS proud. ARRL
member, too?

It has nothing to do with any memberships or licensures, Brain.

Actually, you're right. It has everything to do with your personality
defect.

Now post your documentation.

bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

No mistruth, Steve.

COMPLETE mistruth, Brain.

Complete lie. After all, you're the one who claimed that "Sorry
Hans,
MARS IS Amateur Radio!"

Yes, I did.

And you're the one who keeps quoting it out of context as if it
were something like "...they chased all the Techs away" or
something.

There is no "out of context." That is exactly what you said, and
you've had a long, long time to correct yourself.

Correct what? In the fuller context of the article that it
appeared in, it was correct.

Sorry you don't agree.

Wow, I didn't realize that there were different reasons for
being
a
member. I guess the different services have markedly
different
purposes and goals.

They do, to some degree. That's why you have USMC and USN
units
with NMC MARS calls and not AFMARS calls, and vice-versa.

That is such a thin, thin difference, but when you have nothing
else,
you'll say and do anything so as not to be wrong.

Hardly a "thin difference", Brain.

Anything to keep from being wrong.

Nope. Each branch of MARS has both it's distinctive and it's
similar programs. Otherwise there'd only be "MARS"...Not AFMARS, Army
MARS, and NMC MARS.

So what was the reason you were a MARS member the first time?
The
second time? Was there a third time?

Did you read the other posts? Why don't you pay attention,
Brain?

So what was it?

Sorry, Brain....I am not doing remedial post work for you just to
accomodate your inattention.

and have been in charge of an
island-wide system on Okinawa for six months.

That would have been funny to see. Can you give us some
details
of
your "In-Charge" time so that we can verify it? We'll Start
with
a
copy of your USN MARS license, and a letter from the
installation
Commander assigning you such duties. Then we'll need
corroborating
information from your customers and subordinates. This will
be
fun!

You need to wake up, Brain.

Wide awake.

Obviously not. You not only missed or ignored the posts I was
addressing earlier, you've done nothing to go back and fill
yourself
in.

OK. Which thread, of you all too numerous new threads, was it in?
Who
were you replying to?

Ask your "mentor", Lennie the Lame.

Callsigns, dates and locations were given in another
thread
just
within the last two days.

I don't hang on to your every post, Steve, especially the ones
with
your new rra.misc playmates.

Sure...You just ignore posts unless you think you can let a
zinger
of your own fly...

Huh? Your ignorance of MARS is well documented. No zinger, just a
well known and documented FACT!

Nope.

Of course, what you've done for THREE POSTS now is demonstrate
that
you're inept AND lazy.

My accusations that you are ignorant of MARS is correct.

Nope. However YOU have demonstrated a SIGNIFICANT ignorance of
the MARS programs in your suggestion that all three programs are the
same.

They are not.

Feel free to research my duty assignments during those
times.

Kindly repost them here.

Find them yourself, Brain. It's only been two days.

Earth days, or MARS days?

Does it matter? You'd still be lazy and inept.

The "above requested information" was posted in RRAP this
week.

So you say.

So I did. Ask anyone else you care to ask, Brain.

Jim, is this true?

There's at least three Jims here, Brain...Ya ought to specify.

And none of this "Seven Hostile Actions" stuff.

That happened too. It's just not pertinent to this forum.

But Steve, you're the one constantly saying that if you can't
post
documentation, it didn't happen. Were you lying then or are you
lying
now?

Not lying then OR now.

Has to be one or the other, Steve.

Nope. Wasn't lying then OR now.

It's here already...this week...Show some initiative and find
it...

Documentation, Steve, documentation. Simply saying you did something
is not documentation. Scan in your license(s) and your appointment
letter.

Hmmm? Which number lie would that be?

Number none.

No, no. You're up to about #27 or so.

And shall we start numbering yours? Shall we start at The Great
Somalia DX War Hero stories...?!?!

Best of Luck!

No...best of luck to YOU...explaining how you didn't see
those
callsigns, dates, locations I already gave...

I try to avoid your record number of meaningful exchanges with
your
new
playmates from rra.misc. Did you include the letter of
appointment
from your Commander?

Nope. But the dates, times, locations are there. You're
welcome
to verify them on your own.

You need to scan in the DOCUMENTATION. Best of Luck.

Brain, we've been after you for YEARS to "scan in" YOUR
"documentation" on a NUMBER of your claims.

Haven't seen a one yet.

You remain one of the most prolific RRAP liars and deceivers,
second only to Lennie and an handfull of the anonymous lying cowards.

You're such a putz, Brain.....

Name calling, again? So much for meaningful Extra Class
discourse.
You do your fellow Extra Class amateurs and the ARS proud. ARRL
member, too?

It has nothing to do with any memberships or licensures,
Brain.

Actually, you're right. It has everything to do with your
personality
defect.

What personality defect, Brain...???

Now post your documentation.

After you, Brain...You're already several YEARS behind...

Of course I've given you more than enough to make an independent
determination...You only make more and more assinine assertions.

As usual.

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

No mistruth, Steve.

COMPLETE mistruth, Brain.

Complete lie. After all, you're the one who claimed that
"Sorry
Hans,
MARS IS Amateur Radio!"

Yes, I did.

And you're the one who keeps quoting it out of context as if
it
were something like "...they chased all the Techs away" or
something.

There is no "out of context." That is exactly what you said, and
you've had a long, long time to correct yourself.

Correct what? In the fuller context of the article that it
appeared in, it was correct.

In the entire context of the article it was incorrect.

Wow, I didn't realize that there were different reasons for
being
a
member. I guess the different services have markedly
different
purposes and goals.

They do, to some degree. That's why you have USMC and USN
units
with NMC MARS calls and not AFMARS calls, and vice-versa.

That is such a thin, thin difference, but when you have nothing
else,
you'll say and do anything so as not to be wrong.

Hardly a "thin difference", Brain.

Anything to keep from being wrong.

Nope. Each branch of MARS has both it's distinctive and it's
similar programs. Otherwise there'd only be "MARS"...Not AFMARS,
Army
MARS, and NMC MARS.

Do explain the significant differences of each service's MARS.

So what was the reason you were a MARS member the first time?
The
second time? Was there a third time?

Did you read the other posts? Why don't you pay attention,
Brain?

So what was it?

Sorry, Brain....I am not doing remedial post work for you just to
accomodate your inattention.

So you "documentation" doesn't exist.

and have been in charge of an
island-wide system on Okinawa for six months.

That would have been funny to see. Can you give us some
details
of
your "In-Charge" time so that we can verify it? We'll
Start
with
a
copy of your USN MARS license, and a letter from the
installation
Commander assigning you such duties. Then we'll need
corroborating
information from your customers and subordinates. This
will
be
fun!

You need to wake up, Brain.

Wide awake.

Obviously not. You not only missed or ignored the posts I was
addressing earlier, you've done nothing to go back and fill
yourself
in.

OK. Which thread, of you all too numerous new threads, was it in?
Who
were you replying to?

Ask your "mentor", Lennie the Lame.

Why would he know? He doesn't hang on your every posting either.

Callsigns, dates and locations were given in another
thread
just
within the last two days.

I don't hang on to your every post, Steve, especially the ones
with
your new rra.misc playmates.

Sure...You just ignore posts unless you think you can let a
zinger
of your own fly...

Huh? Your ignorance of MARS is well documented. No zinger, just a
well known and documented FACT!

Nope.

Yep.

Of course, what you've done for THREE POSTS now is
demonstrate
that
you're inept AND lazy.

My accusations that you are ignorant of MARS is correct.

Nope. However YOU have demonstrated a SIGNIFICANT ignorance of
the MARS programs in your suggestion that all three programs are the
same.

They are not.

Yet I've never asserted that MARS is amateur radio, "Sorry Hans, MARS
IS Amateur Radio!"

Hi, hi!

Feel free to research my duty assignments during those
times.

Kindly repost them here.

Find them yourself, Brain. It's only been two days.

Earth days, or MARS days?

Does it matter? You'd still be lazy and inept.

Radio days?

The "above requested information" was posted in RRAP
this
week.

So you say.

So I did. Ask anyone else you care to ask, Brain.

Jim, is this true?

There's at least three Jims here, Brain...Ya ought to specify.

Miccolis.

And none of this "Seven Hostile Actions" stuff.

That happened too. It's just not pertinent to this
forum.

But Steve, you're the one constantly saying that if you can't
post
documentation, it didn't happen. Were you lying then or are
you
lying
now?

Not lying then OR now.

Has to be one or the other, Steve.

Nope. Wasn't lying then OR now.

Both can't be true, so where is your documentation?

It's here already...this week...Show some initiative and
find
it...

Documentation, Steve, documentation. Simply saying you did
something
is not documentation. Scan in your license(s) and your appointment
letter.

Hmmm? Which number lie would that be?

Number none.

No, no. You're up to about #27 or so.

And shall we start numbering yours? Shall we start at The Great
Somalia DX War Hero stories...?!?!

What war hero stories? You must have me confused with Kelly shooting
Russian Bears.

Best of Luck!

No...best of luck to YOU...explaining how you didn't see
those
callsigns, dates, locations I already gave...

I try to avoid your record number of meaningful exchanges with
your
new
playmates from rra.misc. Did you include the letter of
appointment
from your Commander?

Nope. But the dates, times, locations are there. You're
welcome
to verify them on your own.

You need to scan in the DOCUMENTATION. Best of Luck.

Brain, we've been after you for YEARS to "scan in" YOUR
"documentation" on a NUMBER of your claims.

Haven't seen a one yet.

You remain one of the most prolific RRAP liars and deceivers,
second only to Lennie and an handfull of the anonymous lying cowards.

Your rules, Robeson. So, if you don't want to replace me, you'll post
the required documentation now. Otherwise it didn't happen and you're
lying about it.

You're such a putz, Brain.....

Name calling, again? So much for meaningful Extra Class
discourse.
You do your fellow Extra Class amateurs and the ARS proud.
ARRL
member, too?

It has nothing to do with any memberships or licensures,
Brain.

Actually, you're right. It has everything to do with your
personality
defect.

What personality defect, Brain...???

The one that makes up rules as he goes along, but is under no
obligation to follow them.

Now post your documentation.

After you, Brain...You're already several YEARS behind...

Your rules, Robeson. Follow them or forever be known as a liar,
coward, and micreant. Best of Luck.

bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

No mistruth, Steve.

COMPLETE mistruth, Brain.

Complete lie. After all, you're the one who claimed that
"Sorry
Hans,
MARS IS Amateur Radio!"

Yes, I did.

And you're the one who keeps quoting it out of context as
if
it
were something like "...they chased all the Techs away" or
something.

There is no "out of context." That is exactly what you said, and
you've had a long, long time to correct yourself.

Correct what? In the fuller context of the article that it
appeared in, it was correct.

In the entire context of the article it was incorrect.

No, it wasn't.

Wow, I didn't realize that there were different reasons
for
being
a
member. I guess the different services have markedly
different
purposes and goals.

They do, to some degree. That's why you have USMC and
USN
units
with NMC MARS calls and not AFMARS calls, and vice-versa.

That is such a thin, thin difference, but when you have
nothing
else,
you'll say and do anything so as not to be wrong.

Hardly a "thin difference", Brain.

Anything to keep from being wrong.

Nope. Each branch of MARS has both it's distinctive and it's
similar programs. Otherwise there'd only be "MARS"...Not AFMARS,
Army
MARS, and NMC MARS.

Do explain the significant differences of each service's MARS.

So what was the reason you were a MARS member the first time?
The
second time? Was there a third time?

Did you read the other posts? Why don't you pay
attention,
Brain?

So what was it?

Sorry, Brain....I am not doing remedial post work for you just
to
accomodate your inattention.

So you "documentation" doesn't exist.

I repeat: I am not doing your remedial post work for you just to
accomodate your inattention.

Actually, "laziness" would be a better adjective.

OK. Which thread, of you all too numerous new threads, was it
in?
Who
were you replying to?

Ask your "mentor", Lennie the Lame.

Why would he know? He doesn't hang on your every posting either.

Nor should he...However he DID address my previous memberships and
callsigns, Brain.

I am sure you two can backchannel another rant plan.

That one didn't work.

Has to be one or the other, Steve.

Nope. Wasn't lying then OR now.

Both can't be true, so where is your documentation?

It's in this forum.

Yuo won't provide requested answers to questions that have been
put to you for YEARS, Brain, so don't expect me to re-post something
for you that is only DAYS old, Brain.

You remain one of the most prolific RRAP liars and deceivers,
second only to Lennie and an handfull of the anonymous lying
cowards.

Your rules, Robeson. So, if you don't want to replace me, you'll
post
the required documentation now. Otherwise it didn't happen and
you're
lying about it.

"Replace" you? What? Lobotomize Todd...??? I don't think he'd
hold still for that, Brain...

I've given yuo faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar more information about MY
previous MARS activities than you ever thought of, Brain.

Try another tack.

You're such a putz, Brain.....

Name calling, again? So much for meaningful Extra Class
discourse.
You do your fellow Extra Class amateurs and the ARS proud.
ARRL
member, too?

It has nothing to do with any memberships or licensures,
Brain.

Actually, you're right. It has everything to do with your
personality
defect.

What personality defect, Brain...???

The one that makes up rules as he goes along, but is under no
obligation to follow them.

Oh! Now RULES are important, eh, Brain...?!?!

Of course they N E V E R apply to you! Hence Y E A R S of overt
deceit, mistruths and baltant lying on YOUR part.

Now post your documentation.

After you, Brain...You're already several YEARS behind...

Your rules, Robeson. Follow them or forever be known as a liar,
coward, and micreant. Best of Luck.

We'll discuss your "coward" accusation in person, Brain.

As for the "liar" accusation, you're far and away the newsgroup
winner there.

But nice try.

Now...where did all those Techs go...???

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:

Now post your documentation.

After you, Brain...You're already several YEARS behind...

Your rules, Robeson. Follow them or forever be known as a liar,
coward, and micreant. Best of Luck.

BTW, Brain...There are at least TWO other posts within the last 12
months where my dates of MARS service and callsigns were discussed
DIRECTLY with YOU...

Guesss that feeble little remanant of a "brain" doesn't hold
things like that in very well, does it...?!?!

No luck needed, Brain...Not with a "happy to be in second place"
gadfly such as yourself.

Sheeesh........

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

No mistruth, Steve.

COMPLETE mistruth, Brain.

Complete lie. After all, you're the one who claimed that
"Sorry
Hans,
MARS IS Amateur Radio!"

Yes, I did.

And you're the one who keeps quoting it out of context as
if
it
were something like "...they chased all the Techs away" or
something.

There is no "out of context." That is exactly what you said,
and
you've had a long, long time to correct yourself.

Correct what? In the fuller context of the article that it
appeared in, it was correct.

In the entire context of the article it was incorrect.

No, it wasn't.

Wow, I didn't realize that there were different reasons
for
being
a
member. I guess the different services have markedly
different
purposes and goals.

They do, to some degree. That's why you have USMC and
USN
units
with NMC MARS calls and not AFMARS calls, and vice-versa.

That is such a thin, thin difference, but when you have
nothing
else,
you'll say and do anything so as not to be wrong.

Hardly a "thin difference", Brain.

Anything to keep from being wrong.

Nope. Each branch of MARS has both it's distinctive and
it's
similar programs. Otherwise there'd only be "MARS"...Not AFMARS,
Army
MARS, and NMC MARS.

Do explain the significant differences of each service's MARS.

So what was the reason you were a MARS member the first
time?
The
second time? Was there a third time?

Did you read the other posts? Why don't you pay
attention,
Brain?

So what was it?

Sorry, Brain....I am not doing remedial post work for you
just
to
accomodate your inattention.

So you "documentation" doesn't exist.

I repeat: I am not doing your remedial post work for you just
to
accomodate your inattention.

Actually, "laziness" would be a better adjective.

OK. Which thread, of you all too numerous new threads, was it
in?
Who
were you replying to?

Ask your "mentor", Lennie the Lame.

Why would he know? He doesn't hang on your every posting either.

Nor should he...However he DID address my previous memberships
and
callsigns, Brain.

I am sure you two can backchannel another rant plan.

That one didn't work.

Has to be one or the other, Steve.

Nope. Wasn't lying then OR now.

Both can't be true, so where is your documentation?

It's in this forum.

Yuo won't provide requested answers to questions that have been
put to you for YEARS, Brain, so don't expect me to re-post something
for you that is only DAYS old, Brain.

You remain one of the most prolific RRAP liars and
deceivers,
second only to Lennie and an handfull of the anonymous lying
cowards.

Your rules, Robeson. So, if you don't want to replace me, you'll
post
the required documentation now. Otherwise it didn't happen and
you're
lying about it.

"Replace" you? What? Lobotomize Todd...??? I don't think he'd
hold still for that, Brain...

I've given yuo faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar more information about MY
previous MARS activities than you ever thought of, Brain.

Try another tack.

You're such a putz, Brain.....

Name calling, again? So much for meaningful Extra Class
discourse.
You do your fellow Extra Class amateurs and the ARS proud.
ARRL
member, too?

It has nothing to do with any memberships or licensures,
Brain.

Actually, you're right. It has everything to do with your
personality
defect.

What personality defect, Brain...???

The one that makes up rules as he goes along, but is under no
obligation to follow them.

Oh! Now RULES are important, eh, Brain...?!?!

Of course they N E V E R apply to you! Hence Y E A R S of
overt
deceit, mistruths and baltant lying on YOUR part.

Now post your documentation.

After you, Brain...You're already several YEARS behind...

Your rules, Robeson. Follow them or forever be known as a liar,
coward, and micreant. Best of Luck.

We'll discuss your "coward" accusation in person, Brain.

As for the "liar" accusation, you're far and away the newsgroup
winner there.

But nice try.

Now...where did all those Techs go...???

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:

Now post your documentation.

After you, Brain...You're already several YEARS behind...

Your rules, Robeson. Follow them or forever be known as a liar,
coward, and micreant. Best of Luck.

BTW, Brain...There are at least TWO other posts within the last
12
months where my dates of MARS service and callsigns were discussed
DIRECTLY with YOU...

Guesss that feeble little remanant of a "brain" doesn't hold
things like that in very well, does it...?!?!

No luck needed, Brain...Not with a "happy to be in second place"
gadfly such as yourself.

Sheeesh........

Steve, K4YZ

Sorry, Steve, but if that's what you're calling documentation then
you'll just have to be known as a liar. I gave you a chance to redeem
yourself, but you blew it.

Steve serves up Lie #29 with undocumented claims of MARS service.

Wonder if he can get to #30 before the day's out? If so, he will have
averaged 10 new lies per week.

bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:

Now post your documentation.

After you, Brain...You're already several YEARS
behind...

Your rules, Robeson. Follow them or forever be known as a
liar,
coward, and micreant. Best of Luck.

BTW, Brain...There are at least TWO other posts within the
last
12
months where my dates of MARS service and callsigns were discussed
DIRECTLY with YOU...

Guesss that feeble little remanant of a "brain" doesn't hold
things like that in very well, does it...?!?!

No luck needed, Brain...Not with a "happy to be in second
place"
gadfly such as yourself.

Sheeesh........

Steve, K4YZ

Sorry, Steve, but if that's what you're calling documentation then
you'll just have to be known as a liar. I gave you a chance to
redeem
yourself, but you blew it.

You, Brain, have no business suggesting that YOU are giving anyone
a chance to "redeem" themselves.

Steve serves up Lie #29 with undocumented claims of MARS service.

So...Let's count Brain's lies up.

Each time he's alleged I've lied when indeed I hadn't: 29

Assertion of legal operation from Somalia: 30

"Unlicensed devices play major roll in Emer Comm" 31

"ARES/RACES is overblown and won't respond" 32

"All the Techs have been chased away" 33

"You've threatened slash tires, wives, etc..." 34

"I've operated the equivilent of DXCC from KH, HL, etc" 35

Sorry, Brain...You're waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead, Old Boy!

Wonder if he can get to #30 before the day's out? If so, he will
have
averaged 10 new lies per week.

I'd have to get to "1" first...

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:

Now post your documentation.

After you, Brain...You're already several YEARS
behind...

Your rules, Robeson. Follow them or forever be known as a
liar,
coward, and micreant. Best of Luck.

BTW, Brain...There are at least TWO other posts within the
last
12
months where my dates of MARS service and callsigns were
discussed
DIRECTLY with YOU...

Guesss that feeble little remanant of a "brain" doesn't hold
things like that in very well, does it...?!?!

No luck needed, Brain...Not with a "happy to be in second
place"
gadfly such as yourself.

Sheeesh........

Steve, K4YZ

Sorry, Steve, but if that's what you're calling documentation then
you'll just have to be known as a liar. I gave you a chance to
redeem
yourself, but you blew it.

You, Brain, have no business suggesting that YOU are giving
anyone
a chance to "redeem" themselves.

I have appointed myself. Just as you have appointed yourself judge,
jury and executioner in so many RRAP disputes, most of which you
started yourself.

Get used to it - there's a new Sheriff in town and he is watching you.

And I'm recalling the extension I gave for you to post documentation of
your alledged MARS service. You didn't make my deadline.

Sucks to be Robeson.

bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

You, Brain, have no business suggesting that YOU are giving
anyone
a chance to "redeem" themselves.

I have appointed myself. Just as you have appointed yourself judge,
jury and executioner in so many RRAP disputes, most of which you
started yourself.

HArdly, but knock yourself out, brain.

Get used to it - there's a new Sheriff in town and he is watching
you.

Can't be you, Brain. Yuo don't have the cajones to sign your name
to your posts. There's not enough testosterone under that shirt to
hold up a badge...even a "Jr Dick Tracy Detective" one....

And I'm recalling the extension I gave for you to post documentation
of
your alledged MARS service. You didn't make my deadline.

Nothing was alledged. You were given the information necessary to
make an informed decision.

You failed to do it. Not my problem.

Sucks to be Robeson.

Not today it doesn't.

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

You, Brain, have no business suggesting that YOU are giving
anyone
a chance to "redeem" themselves.

I have appointed myself. Just as you have appointed yourself
judge,
jury and executioner in so many RRAP disputes, most of which you
started yourself.

HArdly, but knock yourself out, brain.

You're the #1 agitator.

Get used to it - there's a new Sheriff in town and he is watching
you.

Can't be you, Brain. Yuo don't have the cajones to sign your
name
to your posts. There's not enough testosterone under that shirt to
hold up a badge...even a "Jr Dick Tracy Detective" one....

You underestimate everyone but yourself.

And I'm recalling the extension I gave for you to post
documentation
of
your alledged MARS service. You didn't make my deadline.

Nothing was alledged. You were given the information necessary
to
make an informed decision.

My decision is informed. You failed to post documentation, therefore
your MARS claims are alledged.

Sucks to be Robeson.

Not today it doesn't.

Everyday until you become a truth teller and an apologizer for all of
your misdeeds and lies.

Your words, your rules, your logic. You fail your own tests.

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

You, Brain, have no business suggesting that YOU are giving
anyone
a chance to "redeem" themselves.

I have appointed myself. Just as you have appointed yourself
judge,
jury and executioner in so many RRAP disputes, most of which you
started yourself.

HArdly, but knock yourself out, brain.

On rra.CB, you'd be known as an "Agitator."

Get used to it - there's a new Sheriff in town and he is watching
you.

Can't be you, Brain. Yuo don't have the cajones to sign your
name
to your posts. There's not enough testosterone under that shirt to
hold up a badge...even a "Jr Dick Tracy Detective" one....

Why is it that you underestimate everyone but yourself?

I know the answer, I just want to hear your answer. Hi!

And I'm recalling the extension I gave for you to post
documentation
of
your alledged MARS service. You didn't make my deadline.

Nothing was alledged. You were given the information necessary
to
make an informed decision.

I have made an informed decision. Until that time when you post
official documentation, it will remain "alledged."

You failed to do it. Not my problem.

You failed to do what you demand from others. Your failed your own
test.

Sucks to be Robeson.

Not today it doesn't.

Everyday that you fail to live up to your own words, your own rules,
and your own logic is a Suck Day for Robeson. Best of Luck.

Well, Brain, since you chose to respond "twice" to the same post
(couldn't make up your mind which insult to try...?!?!, I guess I'll
respond to both in one...

I left the other post intact at the bottom of this one for
comparison...What happened...?!?!? Just so impressed with yourself you
wanted to see more? Or realized that you failed the first time that
you took a second shot...?!?!

bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

You, Brain, have no business suggesting that YOU are giving
anyone
a chance to "redeem" themselves.

I have appointed myself. Just as you have appointed yourself
judge,
jury and executioner in so many RRAP disputes, most of which you
started yourself.

HArdly, but knock yourself out, brain.

You're the #1 agitator.

And your other "answer":

On rra.CB, you'd be known as an "Agitator."

Perhaps. But being an "agitatior" does not mean being a liar.

You ARE known as a liar...On RRCB or RRAP, agitator or not.

Get used to it - there's a new Sheriff in town and he is watching
you.

Can't be you, Brain. Yuo don't have the cajones to sign your
name
to your posts. There's not enough testosterone under that shirt to
hold up a badge...even a "Jr Dick Tracy Detective" one....

You underestimate everyone but yourself.

And your other reply to the same comment:

I know the answer, I just want to hear your answer. Hi!

I have enough testosterone to be able to put my picture up for
public display...And know your "flabby" and "obese" comments are put to
the lie they are by it.

Nice try, though...and the previously aired cheap shots at the
organization also duly noted...

And I'm recalling the extension I gave for you to post
documentation
of
your alledged MARS service. You didn't make my deadline.

Nothing was alledged. You were given the information
necessary
to
make an informed decision.

My decision is informed. You failed to post documentation, therefore
your MARS claims are alledged.

And your other response:

I have made an informed decision. Until that time when you post
official documentation, it will remain "alledged."

No "alleged" to it, Brain.

You've been given dates, times and specifics. Any police
detective would be laughing all the way to court with that much
"evidence", but you can't seem to connect the dots. Need crayons?

Sucks to be Robeson.

Not today it doesn't.

Everyday until you become a truth teller and an apologizer for all of
your misdeeds and lies.

Your words, your rules, your logic. You fail your own tests.

And your second reply to the same comments:

Everyday that you fail to live up to your own words, your own rules,
and your own logic is a Suck Day for Robeson. Best of Luck.

Brian...make no mistake...

I can hold my head up. I make mistakes, but I also acknowledge
them when I do and move on.

You do not. THAT is documented. Over and over and over.

You have the specifics of when I was in MARS, the callsigns, where
I was when I had those calls and what I was doing.

YOU, on the other hand, have left a trail of unsubstantiated
claims and assertions that you refuse to either back up with SOME sort
of "proof", admit were just "off the cuff, uninformed opinion", or were
blatantly untruthful.

Sucks to be you. No luck needed here.

Steve, K4YZ





The other post:

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

You, Brain, have no business suggesting that YOU are giving
anyone
a chance to "redeem" themselves.

I have appointed myself. Just as you have appointed yourself
judge,
jury and executioner in so many RRAP disputes, most of which you
started yourself.

HArdly, but knock yourself out, brain.

On rra.CB, you'd be known as an "Agitator."

Get used to it - there's a new Sheriff in town and he is watching
you.

Can't be you, Brain. Yuo don't have the cajones to sign your
name
to your posts. There's not enough testosterone under that shirt to
hold up a badge...even a "Jr Dick Tracy Detective" one....

Why is it that you underestimate everyone but yourself?

I know the answer, I just want to hear your answer. Hi!

And I'm recalling the extension I gave for you to post
documentation
of
your alledged MARS service. You didn't make my deadline.

Nothing was alledged. You were given the information necessary
to
make an informed decision.

I have made an informed decision. Until that time when you post
official documentation, it will remain "alledged."

You failed to do it. Not my problem.

You failed to do what you demand from others. Your failed your own
test.

Sucks to be Robeson.

Not today it doesn't.

Everyday that you fail to live up to your own words, your own rules,
and your own logic is a Suck Day for Robeson. Best of Luck.

K4YZ wrote:
Well, Brain, since you chose to respond "twice" to the same post
(couldn't make up your mind which insult to try...?!?!, I guess I'll
respond to both in one...

Multitasking from a guy with multiple personalities? Should be a piece
of cake for you.

I left the other post intact at the bottom of this one for
comparison...What happened...?!?!? Just so impressed with yourself
you
wanted to see more? Or realized that you failed the first time that
you took a second shot...?!?!

Google was hiccupping earlier, so I replied a second time.

bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

You, Brain, have no business suggesting that YOU are
giving
anyone
a chance to "redeem" themselves.

I have appointed myself. Just as you have appointed yourself
judge,
jury and executioner in so many RRAP disputes, most of which
you
started yourself.

HArdly, but knock yourself out, brain.

You're the #1 agitator.

And your other "answer":

On rra.CB, you'd be known as an "Agitator."

Perhaps. But being an "agitatior" does not mean being a liar.

You're that, too. But I don't want people to call me Capt. Obvious, or
turn me in to the SPCA for beating a dead horse.

You ARE known as a liar...On RRCB or RRAP, agitator or not.

Only you think that. Meanwhile, you have been proven to be a liar, and
make lying your daily bread.

Get used to it - there's a new Sheriff in town and he is
watching
you.

Can't be you, Brain. Yuo don't have the cajones to sign your
name
to your posts. There's not enough testosterone under that shirt
to
hold up a badge...even a "Jr Dick Tracy Detective" one....

You underestimate everyone but yourself.

And your other reply to the same comment:

I know the answer, I just want to hear your answer. Hi!

I have enough testosterone

Enough??? You think? You're like a powder keg. Maybe you ought to
have estrogen therapy.

to be able to put my picture up for
public display...And know your "flabby" and "obese" comments are put
to
the lie they are by it.

Nice try, though...and the previously aired cheap shots at the
organization also duly noted...

You failed to answer the question, so I'll ask it again: Why?

You underestimate everyone but yourself. Why?

I know the answer, I just want to hear your answer. Hi!

And I'm recalling the extension I gave for you to post
documentation
of
your alledged MARS service. You didn't make my deadline.

Nothing was alledged. You were given the information
necessary
to
make an informed decision.

My decision is informed. You failed to post documentation,
therefore
your MARS claims are alledged.

And your other response:

I have made an informed decision. Until that time when you post
official documentation, it will remain "alledged."

No "alleged" to it, Brain.

Alleged until you post authentic documentation.

You've been given dates, times and specifics. Any police
detective would be laughing all the way to court with that much
"evidence", but you can't seem to connect the dots. Need crayons?

Need authentic letter of appointment. Got one?

Sucks to be Robeson.

Not today it doesn't.

Everyday until you become a truth teller and an apologizer for all
of
your misdeeds and lies.

Your words, your rules, your logic. You fail your own tests.

And your second reply to the same comments:

Everyday that you fail to live up to your own words, your own
rules,
and your own logic is a Suck Day for Robeson. Best of Luck.

Brian...make no mistake...

I can hold my head up.

Glad to hear your motor skills are adequate. No back or neck brace
noted in flight suit photo.

I make mistakes, but I also acknowledge
them when I do and move on.

Then why cannot you live up to what you DEMAND from others?

Were those demands mistakes? If so, do take the time to acknowledge
it, apologize for it. The day you start acting like a human being
instead of a complete jackass is the day you'll be treated as a human
being.

You do not. THAT is documented. Over and over and over.

You do not, documented again and again, over and over. On the surface
it looks like you hold to a double-standard. But when I look deeper,
it gets much, much worse.

You have the specifics of when I was in MARS, the callsigns,
where
I was when I had those calls

Silly Gunny, I need to see an authentic letter of appointment. Got
one? (hint: look in that shoebox full of medals.)

and what I was doing.

As far as what you were doing? Obviously not MARS communications or
you just might know a little something about MARS. Hi!

Now go find that letter of appointment and post it for all to see.

bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
Well, Brain, since you chose to respond "twice" to the same post
(couldn't make up your mind which insult to try...?!?!, I guess
I'll
respond to both in one...

Multitasking from a guy with multiple personalities? Should be a
piece
of cake for you.

Actually, anything having to do with humiliating you comes
easily...But as I said before, I can't take the credit...You DO make it
so easy to do...

I left the other post intact at the bottom of this one for
comparison...What happened...?!?!? Just so impressed with yourself
you
wanted to see more? Or realized that you failed the first time
that
you took a second shot...?!?!

Google was hiccupping earlier, so I replied a second time.

Uh huh...suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure, Brain.

You're the #1 agitator.

And your other "answer":

On rra.CB, you'd be known as an "Agitator."

Perhaps. But being an "agitatior" does not mean being a liar.

You're that, too.

No. I'm not, but it seems to make you happy to say it over and
over.

Since you can't be truthful, you might as well be happy!

But I don't want people to call me Capt. Obvious, or turn me in to
the SPCA for beating a dead horse.

Too late, Brain...There's dried body fluids all over the place.

I know the answer, I just want to hear your answer. Hi!

I have enough testosterone

Enough??? You think? You're like a powder keg. Maybe you ought to
have estrogen therapy.

Nope. I already work in an estrogen rich enviroment.

to be able to put my picture up for
public display...And know your "flabby" and "obese" comments are
put
to
the lie they are by it.

Nice try, though...and the previously aired cheap shots at the
organization also duly noted...

You failed to answer the question, so I'll ask it again: Why?

I did answer the question. And you ahd the information in your
hands a long time ago and it was enough then.

Your only point now is to try and change the parameters in order
to continue an argument.

You underestimate everyone but yourself. Why?

I underestimate no one. Including you. If anything, I
OVERestimate you...

I know the answer, I just want to hear your answer. Hi!

Hi to you to, but we were already talking.....

I have made an informed decision. Until that time when you post
official documentation, it will remain "alledged."

No "alleged" to it, Brain.

Alleged until you post authentic documentation.

Right after we get all the documentation we've been asking from
YOU for YEARS...

However I HAVE given you the information from which to make an
independent determination. You refuse to act on it.

Adds coward to liar, doesn't it...???

Ooops...We already did. Guess you get an extra dose.

You've been given dates, times and specifics. Any police
detective would be laughing all the way to court with that much
"evidence", but you can't seem to connect the dots. Need crayons?

Need authentic letter of appointment. Got one?

Had one. You can get a copy of your own by asking Chief Navy MARS
or AFMARS. You've got both my calls. You can ask CG 1st MAW about my
Okinawa tour.

Or don't you ha the guts to start "dialing..."...?!?!

Brian...make no mistake...

I can hold my head up.

Glad to hear your motor skills are adequate. No back or neck brace
noted in flight suit photo.

I make mistakes, but I also acknowledge
them when I do and move on.

Then why cannot you live up to what you DEMAND from others?

And what have YOU EVER provided other than opportunities to
make fun of, Brain?

Still waiting on some verification of your Somalia legitimacy.

Wondering where that "major comms" factsheet is too.

And guess that wherever they chased those Techs to, they came back
already...I never noticed they were missing.

ARES doesn't seem to have gotten the message that they are too
overblown or unwilling to respond since others keep applauding their
efforts at every response they make good on.

Etc etc etc.

Were those demands mistakes? If so, do take the time to acknowledge
it, apologize for it. The day you start acting like a human being
instead of a complete jackass is the day you'll be treated as a human
being.

Ahhhhhh...now the Todd Factor starts. Unable to get me to waiver
from my opinion, you start in on the profanity.

There's one of those here, Todd...I mean Brian, but it's not me.
It's the lying little coward who keeps making assertions that he can't
substantiate. You'll see him when you shave again....

You do not. THAT is documented. Over and over and over.

You do not, documented again and again, over and over. On the
surface
it looks like you hold to a double-standard. But when I look deeper,
it gets much, much worse.

To what double standard do you refer, Brain?

I've been after you for years to make good on any number of silly
assertions you've made and not a word from you.

You demanded information from me. I gave it to you. And having
GOT that information, you try to redirect.

Sorry...

You have the specifics of when I was in MARS, the callsigns,
where
I was when I had those calls

Silly Gunny, I need to see an authentic letter of appointment. Got
one? (hint: look in that shoebox full of medals.)

The box is full of collectables.

The papers are with the organizations from which I used to belong.

Stop being a coward and look yourself.

and what I was doing.

As far as what you were doing? Obviously not MARS communications or
you just might know a little something about MARS. Hi!

Now go find that letter of appointment and post it for all to see.

Right after you answer the questions that I've been asking you for
YEARS, Brain...

Bad redirect. Try again.

Steve, K4YZ

bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
Well, Brain, since you chose to respond "twice" to the same post
(couldn't make up your mind which insult to try...?!?!, I guess
I'll
respond to both in one...

Multitasking from a guy with multiple personalities? Should be a
piece
of cake for you.

What multiple personalities, Brain?

Exercising the priviledge of that Doctor license again?

I left the other post intact at the bottom of this one for
comparison...What happened...?!?!? Just so impressed with yourself
you
wanted to see more? Or realized that you failed the first time
that
you took a second shot...?!?!

Google was hiccupping earlier, so I replied a second time.

Uh huh.

I say you were just too impressed with yourself the first time and
had to go for another spin.

bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

You, Brain, have no business suggesting that YOU are
giving
anyone
a chance to "redeem" themselves.

I have appointed myself. Just as you have appointed yourself
judge,
jury and executioner in so many RRAP disputes, most of which
you
started yourself.

HArdly, but knock yourself out, brain.

You're the #1 agitator.

And your other "answer":

On rra.CB, you'd be known as an "Agitator."

Perhaps. But being an "agitatior" does not mean being a liar.

You're that, too. But I don't want people to call me Capt. Obvious,
or
turn me in to the SPCA for beating a dead horse.

Why, Brain?

Your stories ARE "obvious" as are your useless attempts to snivvel
out from under your stupid assertions.

As for "dead horses", therin lays one of YOUR "double standards,
Brain...same "catch phrases" over and over again...

You ARE known as a liar...On RRCB or RRAP, agitator or not.

Only you think that. Meanwhile, you have been proven to be a liar,
and
make lying your daily bread.

No, I am NOT the only one who thinks that. But keep telling
yourself that if it makes you warm and snuggly.

Get used to it - there's a new Sheriff in town and he is
watching
you.

Can't be you, Brain. Yuo don't have the cajones to sign
your
name
to your posts. There's not enough testosterone under that
shirt
to
hold up a badge...even a "Jr Dick Tracy Detective" one....

You underestimate everyone but yourself.

And your other reply to the same comment:

I know the answer, I just want to hear your answer. Hi!

I have enough testosterone

Enough??? You think? You're like a powder keg. Maybe you ought to
have estrogen therapy.

Why? I get all the estrogen expsoure I need at work.

to be able to put my picture up for
public display...And know your "flabby" and "obese" comments are
put
to
the lie they are by it.

Nice try, though...and the previously aired cheap shots at the
organization also duly noted...

You failed to answer the question, so I'll ask it again: Why?

You underestimate everyone but yourself. Why?

I don't underestimate myself. I ahve OVERestimated you on
occassion, but you always snap back and remind us of your true natrue.

I know the answer, I just want to hear your answer. Hi!

Hi yourself...Or are you announcing your toxicity due to illict
drug consumption...?!?!

I have made an informed decision. Until that time when you post
official documentation, it will remain "alledged."

No "alleged" to it, Brain.

Alleged until you post authentic documentation.

You were given the details, Brain.

Far more information than YOU have ever provided us.

You've been given dates, times and specifics. Any police
detective would be laughing all the way to court with that much
"evidence", but you can't seem to connect the dots. Need crayons?

Need authentic letter of appointment. Got one?

Don't need one. Gave you the specifics.

But you don't have the cajones to find out for yourself.

I make mistakes, but I also acknowledge
them when I do and move on.

Then why cannot you live up to what you DEMAND from others?

I gave you the DETAILS you asked for...then once you saw I was
willing to do that, you changed the parameters...

Sorry, Brain...You ahve the details...Now if there's more you
need, I will post it RIGHT AFTER you answer some of the questions I
ahve put to you for YEARS...

Were those demands mistakes? If so, do take the time to acknowledge
it, apologize for it. The day you start acting like a human being
instead of a complete jack### is the day you'll be treated as a human
being.

Ahhhhhhhhhhh...Getting into the AngryLennie mode...Out come the
profanities in lieu of any further "rational" discussion. That "civil
discourse" you always make allusion to in others, Brain...?!?!

Uh huh!


You do not. THAT is documented. Over and over and over.

You do not, documented again and again, over and over. On the
surface
it looks like you hold to a double-standard. But when I look deeper,
it gets much, much worse.

Even if I DID have a "double standard", it would be two
"standards" more than you, Brain...

You have the specifics of when I was in MARS, the callsigns,
where
I was when I had those calls

Silly Gunny, I need to see an authentic letter of appointment. Got
one? (hint: look in that shoebox full of medals.)

Sorry, Brain...

Like I said...RIGHT AFTER I start seeing some of the stuff that I
have been asking you about...Not even "documents"...Just some
verifyable details...

and what I was doing.

As far as what you were doing? Obviously not MARS communications or
you just might know a little something about MARS. Hi!

Now go find that letter of appointment and post it for all to see.

Waiting on you, Brain...Waiting on you................

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
Well, Brain, since you chose to respond "twice" to the same post
(couldn't make up your mind which insult to try...?!?!, I guess
I'll
respond to both in one...

Multitasking from a guy with multiple personalities? Should be a
piece
of cake for you.

What multiple personalities, Brain?

Exercising the priviledge of that Doctor license again?

Where are your papers? MARS papers?

I left the other post intact at the bottom of this one for
comparison...What happened...?!?!? Just so impressed with
yourself
you
wanted to see more? Or realized that you failed the first time
that
you took a second shot...?!?!

Google was hiccupping earlier, so I replied a second time.

Uh huh.

I say you were just too impressed with yourself the first time
and
had to go for another spin.

What you say has no credibility. Got papers?

bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

You, Brain, have no business suggesting that YOU are
giving
anyone
a chance to "redeem" themselves.

I have appointed myself. Just as you have appointed
yourself
judge,
jury and executioner in so many RRAP disputes, most of
which
you
started yourself.

HArdly, but knock yourself out, brain.

You're the #1 agitator.

And your other "answer":

On rra.CB, you'd be known as an "Agitator."

Perhaps. But being an "agitatior" does not mean being a
liar.

You're that, too. But I don't want people to call me Capt.
Obvious,
or
turn me in to the SPCA for beating a dead horse.

Why, Brain?

Your stories ARE "obvious" as are your useless attempts to
snivvel
out from under your stupid assertions.

As for "dead horses", therin lays one of YOUR "double standards,
Brain...same "catch phrases" over and over again...

My "stories" don't change. I have no need to "keep track" of what I've
told people.

So anyway, where are your papers?

You ARE known as a liar...On RRCB or RRAP, agitator or not.

Only you think that. Meanwhile, you have been proven to be a liar,
and
make lying your daily bread.

No, I am NOT the only one who thinks that. But keep telling
yourself that if it makes you warm and snuggly.

It makes me sad that you debase yourself with constant lying,
outrageous claims, and libelous accusations.

Get used to it - there's a new Sheriff in town and he is
watching
you.

Can't be you, Brain. Yuo don't have the cajones to sign
your
name
to your posts. There's not enough testosterone under that
shirt
to
hold up a badge...even a "Jr Dick Tracy Detective" one....

You underestimate everyone but yourself.

And your other reply to the same comment:

I know the answer, I just want to hear your answer. Hi!

I have enough testosterone

Enough??? You think? You're like a powder keg. Maybe you ought
to
have estrogen therapy.

Why? I get all the estrogen expsoure I need at work.

Hi! You get all worked up and no place to go. So you vent on RRAP.

to be able to put my picture up for
public display...And know your "flabby" and "obese" comments are
put
to
the lie they are by it.

Nice try, though...and the previously aired cheap shots at
the
organization also duly noted...

You failed to answer the question, so I'll ask it again: Why?

You underestimate everyone but yourself. Why?

I don't underestimate myself.

Really??? OK, Capt. Obvious. If you say so. Hi!

I ahve OVERestimated you on
occassion, but you always snap back and remind us of your true
natrue.

Get hold of that anger.

I know the answer, I just want to hear your answer. Hi!

Hi yourself...Or are you announcing your toxicity due to illict
drug consumption...?!?!

Dodge Omni with a SS 102" whip? CB-Handle license plates?

I have made an informed decision. Until that time when you
post
official documentation, it will remain "alledged."

No "alleged" to it, Brain.

Alleged until you post authentic documentation.

You were given the details, Brain.

Far more information than YOU have ever provided us.

Insufficient. Post authentic documentation. Got papers?

You've been given dates, times and specifics. Any police
detective would be laughing all the way to court with that much
"evidence", but you can't seem to connect the dots. Need
crayons?

Need authentic letter of appointment. Got one?

Don't need one. Gave you the specifics.

But you don't have the cajones to find out for yourself.

Post your authentic papers. Got papers?

I make mistakes, but I also acknowledge
them when I do and move on.

Then why cannot you live up to what you DEMAND from others?

I gave you the DETAILS you asked for...then once you saw I was
willing to do that, you changed the parameters...

Sorry, Brain...You ahve the details...Now if there's more you
need, I will post it RIGHT AFTER you answer some of the questions I
ahve put to you for YEARS...

I don't recall what you claim are details.

Post authentic documentation. You know what you say about people who
can't or won't post authentic documentation???

It didn't happen, and they are lying about it.

Were those demands mistakes? If so, do take the time to
acknowledge
it, apologize for it. The day you start acting like a human being
instead of a complete jack### is the day you'll be treated as a
human
being.

Ahhhhhhhhhhh...Getting into the AngryLennie mode...Out come the
profanities in lieu of any further "rational" discussion. That
"civil
discourse" you always make allusion to in others, Brain...?!?!

Uh huh!

Nice Dodge Coronet with bald tires.

Now answer the tuff question.

Where your demands of others a mistake? Were your subsequent lies
about others a mistake?

You do not. THAT is documented. Over and over and over.

You do not, documented again and again, over and over. On the
surface
it looks like you hold to a double-standard. But when I look
deeper,
it gets much, much worse.

Even if I DID have a "double standard", it would be two
"standards" more than you, Brain...

Finally an admission to the PCTA double-standard.

And therein lies the problem.

You think that having two standards is a good solution to your
problems.

You have the specifics of when I was in MARS, the callsigns,
where
I was when I had those calls

Silly Gunny, I need to see an authentic letter of appointment. Got
one? (hint: look in that shoebox full of medals.)

Sorry, Brain...

You lie. You have no sorrow.

Like I said...RIGHT AFTER I start seeing some of the stuff that
I
have been asking you about...Not even "documents"...Just some
verifyable details...

Horrible, broke down Dodge.

No. You will never receive anything from me except condemnation.

Now back to your claims of having been appointed to a MARS leadership
position. Post your papers. No Documentation = Never Happened = Lies.

Your words, your rules, your logic.

and what I was doing.

As far as what you were doing? Obviously not MARS communications
or
you just might know a little something about MARS. Hi!

Now go find that letter of appointment and post it for all to see.

Waiting on you, Brain...Waiting on you................

In other words, you're lying. No MARS service.

bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

Exercising the priviledge of that Doctor license again?

Where are your papers? MARS papers?

And I told you they're not forthcoming. I've given you far more
information to verify this ONE claim than you've ever provided for ALL
of the questions before you!

What you say has no credibility. Got papers?

And I told you they're not forthcoming. I've given you far more
information to verify this ONE claim than you've ever provided for ALL
of the questions before you!

As for "dead horses", therin lays one of YOUR "double
standards,
Brain...same "catch phrases" over and over again...

My "stories" don't change. I have no need to "keep track" of what
I've
told people.

Sure you do. You need to keep track of your "ARES" stories, your
"unlicensed devices" stories, your "chased the Techs away" stories...

So anyway, where are your papers?

And I told you they're not forthcoming. I've given you far more
information to verify this ONE claim than you've ever provided for ALL
of the questions before you!

No, I am NOT the only one who thinks that. But keep telling
yourself that if it makes you warm and snuggly.

It makes me sad that you debase yourself with constant lying,
outrageous claims, and libelous accusations.

I am not lying.

And what "outrageous claims"..?!?!

And nothing is "libelous" if it's true. So far, you've provben me
right in just about all my "accusations" about you and Lennie.

Why? I get all the estrogen expsoure I need at work.

Hi! You get all worked up and no place to go. So you vent on RRAP.

Hi yourself.

And hardly worked up. Body fluids and viruses put the chill on
any other ideations.

I ahve OVERestimated you on
occassion, but you always snap back and remind us of your true
natrue.

Get hold of that anger.

What anger? Surely you're not going to try that Lennism about
typos = Anger, are you? Lennie's got a trail of them himself and has
already dispelled THAT claim.

Far more information than YOU have ever provided us.

Insufficient. Post authentic documentation. Got papers?

And I told you they're not forthcoming. I've given you far more
information to verify this ONE claim than you've ever provided for ALL
of the questions before you!

You've been given dates, times and specifics. Any police
detective would be laughing all the way to court with that much
"evidence", but you can't seem to connect the dots. Need
crayons?

Need authentic letter of appointment. Got one?

Don't need one. Gave you the specifics.

But you don't have the cajones to find out for yourself.

Post your authentic papers. Got papers?

And I told you they're not forthcoming. I've given you far more
information to verify this ONE claim than you've ever provided for ALL
of the questions before you!

Sorry, Brain...You have the details...Now if there's more you
need, I will post it RIGHT AFTER you answer some of the questions I
ahve put to you for YEARS...

I don't recall what you claim are details.

Post authentic documentation. You know what you say about people who
can't or won't post authentic documentation???

It didn't happen, and they are lying about it.

I've asked you to post DETAILS, Brain...SPECIFICS...

You never do, of course, but then everyone here EXCEPT you realizes
that you're blowing smoke.

Even if I DID have a "double standard", it would be two
"standards" more than you, Brain...

Finally an admission to the PCTA double-standard.

No admission...Read again, Brain...

And therein lies the problem.

You think that having two standards is a good solution to your
problems.

I don't.

Guess I should take your lead...If I had NO standards, then I
could make up anything I wanted to along the way...

Just like you do...

You have the specifics of when I was in MARS, the
callsigns,
where
I was when I had those calls

Silly Gunny, I need to see an authentic letter of appointment.
Got
one? (hint: look in that shoebox full of medals.)

Sorry, Brain...

You lie. You have no sorrow.

I do. I have sorrow that people like you can't be forced into
treatment unless you make a threat of physical violence against
yourself or others.

Like I said...RIGHT AFTER I start seeing some of the stuff
that
I
have been asking you about...Not even "documents"...Just some
verifyable details...

Horrible, broke down Dodge.

No. You will never receive anything from me except condemnation.

That's all you've evenr provided.

You make stories. You are asked to validate, or at least
rationalize your claims...

You never do.

Now back to your claims of having been appointed to a MARS leadership
position. Post your papers. No Documentation = Never Happened =
Lies.

Your words, your rules, your logic.

And I told you they're not forthcoming. I've given you far more
information to verify this ONE claim than you've ever provided for ALL
of the questions before you!

and what I was doing.

As far as what you were doing? Obviously not MARS communications
or
you just might know a little something about MARS. Hi!

Now go find that letter of appointment and post it for all to
see.

Waiting on you, Brain...Waiting on you................

In other words, you're lying. No MARS service.

In other words, the info's been in your hands for over a year.

Sucks to be you, Brain...Still a liar...Still a putz...

Still going to have to find a way to explain to your kids one day
why you lied in public so often.....

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:

Insufficient. Post authentic documentation. Got papers?

And I told you they're not forthcoming. I've given you far more
information to verify this ONE claim than you've ever provided for
ALL
of the questions before you!

But Steve, wasn't it you who demanded documentation for everyone else's
activities?

Ayup!

And if the documentation didn't flow it meant that the event didn't
happen and the person was lying?

Yep, that was you. Your words, your rules, your logic. That is the
basis that you use for calling other people liars. It's too bad that
your heavy handed tactics have to be used on you, that's the way it
works. You are not exempt from your own rules, though you are
desperately trying to avoid them.

So again I ask you to post documentation of your MARS claims. An
authentic letter of appointment to your alledged claim of "ANCOIC
Okinawa" would be satisfactory. Got Papers? Sucks to be Robeson.

Steve,

SO, I'm a memeber of a number of thing, I've been a member of army MARS
SINCE 1993.

TODD N9OGL

N9OGL wrote:
Steve,

SO, I'm a memeber of a number of thing, I've been a member of army
MARS
SINCE 1993.

What's your Army MARS callsign Todd...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

Stebie said
What's your Army MARS callsign Todd...?!?!


AAR5TB


Todd N9OGL

N9OGL wrote:
Stebie said
What's your Army MARS callsign Todd...?!?!


AAR5TB

Well...I'll be dogged.

And I'll also have to check it out. If Todd told me the sky is
blue and water is wet I'd look up and stick my hand under the faucet to
be sure....

Steve, K4YZ

bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:

Insufficient. Post authentic documentation. Got papers?

And I told you they're not forthcoming. I've given you far
more
information to verify this ONE claim than you've ever provided for
ALL
of the questions before you!

But Steve, wasn't it you who demanded documentation for everyone
else's
activities?

Ayup!

And if the documentation didn't flow it meant that the event didn't
happen and the person was lying?

Yep, that was you. Your words, your rules, your logic. That is the
basis that you use for calling other people liars. It's too bad that
your heavy handed tactics have to be used on you, that's the way it
works. You are not exempt from your own rules, though you are
desperately trying to avoid them.

So again I ask you to post documentation of your MARS claims. An
authentic letter of appointment to your alledged claim of "ANCOIC
Okinawa" would be satisfactory. Got Papers? Sucks to be Robeson.

Got papers?

K4YZ wrote:
N9OGL wrote:
Stebie said
What's your Army MARS callsign Todd...?!?!


AAR5TB

Well...I'll be dogged.

You are dogged. Now post authentic documentation of your claimed
position of authority in MARS/Okinawa. Got any?