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EU: Europe just lost a Primary Amateur Radio Band
Today Europe lost an Amateur Radio Band to "licence-excempt"
time-limited use by automotive short range radar equipment. see: http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/24ghz/ (have your say before 23rd May !!!!!!!!!) It's the first nail in the coffin for the UK Amateur Radio. The Funeral is now set for 26th May 2005 when a consultaion on the future of UK amateur radio licensing is published which will contain the question on fully deregulating amateur radio in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (UK): http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/i...ur/forthcoming or ( http://tinyurl.com/8pvxw ) "..For the avoidance of doubt, whilst the formal public consultation will put forward a number of other options for the future, those options are explicitly not recommended by Ofcom. Specifically, Ofcom will not recommend any options to make the amateur radio service WT Act licence-exempt; however, for transparency and completeness, this will be put forward as an option in the public consultation in order to gather the community's views ....." Looks like 100 years plus of amateur radio history in the UK could soon go the same way as the 24GHz band i.e. licence excempt - no exams, no callsigns, just CB! --73deG1LVN www.dutchhousemob.co.uk |
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G1LVN wrote: Looks like 100 years plus of amateur radio history in the UK could soon go the same way as the 24GHz band i.e. licence excempt - no exams, no callsigns, just CB! --73deG1LVN www.dutchhousemob.co.uk 24GHz, huh? What's that? |
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"bb" wrote in message ups.com... 24GHz, huh? What's that? The 1.2cm band --- see 97.301(a). 73, de Hans, K0HB |
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"bb" wrote in message ups.com... G1LVN wrote: Looks like 100 years plus of amateur radio history in the UK could soon go the same way as the 24GHz band i.e. licence excempt - no exams, no callsigns, just CB! --73deG1LVN www.dutchhousemob.co.uk 24GHz, huh? What's that? The thin end of the wedge my boy, thats what it is. Brian |
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Brian wrote: "bb" wrote in message ups.com... G1LVN wrote: Looks like 100 years plus of amateur radio history in the UK could soon go the same way as the 24GHz band i.e. licence excempt - no exams, no callsigns, just CB! --73deG1LVN www.dutchhousemob.co.uk 24GHz, huh? What's that? The thin end of the wedge my boy, thats what it is. That it is, Sir, that it is...However it's a rusty wedge, becasue that's been the history of the Amateur Service (at least here in the Colonies) since the inception of Radio. Everytime it's been in the best COMMERCIAL interests to do so, Amateurs were moverd higher and higher up the spectrum until those very same commercial interests decided they were ready to populate those same higher bands. And truth be said, just how much use are we (Amateurs) making of those bands? There's probably not even 100 guys here in the States that make use of those bands, and even if the number is 10 times that, it still doesn't warrant holding them back for development. Oh, I certainly believe we need to hold some slices open for Amateur and experimentals, but the bottom line is that it's unrealistic to expect that that amount of "radio real estate" would be held for our exclusive use. 73 Steve, K4YZ Brian |
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You'll be saying we have to give back the internet 44.x.x.x IP address
range next, OM. We could probably get $billions for a Class A allocation like that. Yet we don't do we? |
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G1LVN wrote: You'll be saying we have to give back the internet 44.x.x.x IP address range next, OM. We could probably get $billions for a Class A allocation like that. Yet we don't do we? I'm not sure if that was meant for me (no attributes), but no Sir, we certainly don't have to surrender an internet address....We can create new addresses as the circumstances and technology allow. The electromagnetic spectrum is a very finite resource, however, and we'll be hard pressed to defend some of our allocations with as little use as they are getting. I can't speak for you fellows on that side of the Atlantic, however I know that any use of the bands above 2.3Ghz on this side is very rare. I think we will be lucky to maintain even sharing arangements in the future, let alone keep exclusive allocations. 73 Steve, K4YZ Winchester, TN |
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G1LVN wrote: You'll be saying we have to give back the internet 44.x.x.x IP address range next, OM. We could probably get $billions for a Class A allocation like that. Yet we don't do we? Are you active on 24GHz? |
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"K4YZ" wrote in message ups.com... Brian wrote: "bb" wrote in message ups.com... G1LVN wrote: Looks like 100 years plus of amateur radio history in the UK could soon go the same way as the 24GHz band i.e. licence excempt - no exams, no callsigns, just CB! --73deG1LVN www.dutchhousemob.co.uk 24GHz, huh? What's that? The thin end of the wedge my boy, thats what it is. That it is, Sir, that it is...However it's a rusty wedge, becasue that's been the history of the Amateur Service (at least here in the Colonies) since the inception of Radio. Everytime it's been in the best COMMERCIAL interests to do so, Amateurs were moverd higher and higher up the spectrum until those very same commercial interests decided they were ready to populate those same higher bands. And truth be said, just how much use are we (Amateurs) making of those bands? There's probably not even 100 guys here in the States that make use of those bands, and even if the number is 10 times that, it still doesn't warrant holding them back for development. Oh, I certainly believe we need to hold some slices open for Amateur and experimentals, but the bottom line is that it's unrealistic to expect that that amount of "radio real estate" would be held for our exclusive use. 73 Steve, K4YZ Well history has revealed that radio amateurs were pushed further up the frequency scale simply because they (the authorities) thought it was of no use commercially. Look at Short Wave, it was the radio amateurs who discovered that one could work the world on short waves. Radio amateurs who discovered (or was it invented) SSB. Now of course there are fewer things for us radio amateurs to give the world (for free of course) so our existance is tolerated. However it looks like that tolerance (at least in the UK) is about to be curtailed. Brian |
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Well history has revealed that radio amateurs were pushed further up the frequency scale simply because they (the authorities) thought it was of no use commercially. Look at Short Wave, it was the radio amateurs who discovered that one could work the world on short waves. Radio amateurs who discovered (or was it invented) SSB. I don't know who invented SSB but it was in use for a number of years commercially before it first appeared in the amateur bands. Now of course there are fewer things for us radio amateurs to give the world (for free of course) so our existance is tolerated. However it looks like that tolerance (at least in the UK) is about to be curtailed. Brian There's an old adage out there which applies here, "Use it or lose it". There's no point to complaining about losing allocations if we don't use them. Which is the case with 24Ghz and we did it to ourselves. w3rv |
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