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The growth in numbers of Amateurs over the past decade
has been overwhelmingly via the Technician license.

.... since about 1987 or so, most new hams
have started out as Technicians.

Jim, we can nit-pick the semantics if you really think that's productive,
but the two statements above both seem to convey the same notion, which we
might more clearly state "Most new hams since 1991 have entered via the
Technician class which is now the largest single license class in the US,
comprising almost half (47.7%) of the population of licensees in this
country, nearly equal to the combined total population of the three higher
classes.".

73, de Hans, K0HB


In any activity it would be normal for the "beginners" group to be the
largest segment. There are always a lot of people who start activities but
then drop out for a wide variety of reasons.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

"Dee Flint" wrote


In any activity it would be normal for the "beginners" group to be the largest
segment. There are always a
lot of people who start activities but then drop out
for a wide variety of reasons.


Astute observation. It would be nice to find a way reduce that "first termer"
attrition by promoting an atmosphere which reinforces the reasons they took the
time and trouble to come aboard. To steal an idea from marketing, "It's usually
a lot easier and cheaper to keep an old customer than to identify and recruit a
new one."

73, de Hans, K0HB

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"Dee Flint" wrote
In any activity it would be normal for the "beginners" group
group to be the largest segment. There are always a
lot of people who start activities but then drop out
for a wide variety of reasons.

Astute observation. It would be nice to find a way reduce that "first
termer" attrition by promoting an atmosphere which reinforces the reasons
they took the time and trouble to come aboard. To steal an idea from
marketing, "It's usually a lot easier and cheaper to keep an old customer
than to identify and recruit a new one."
73, de Hans, K0HB

From the different organizations I've been involved with, I think the
larger beginner "drop-out" is just a truth of human nature. I've seen it
in scouting, college, classic car clubs, etc. Exactly why newcomers move
on to other pursuits is one of life's mysteries in most cases.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK

Bill Sohl wrote:


From the different organizations I've been involved with, I think the
larger beginner "drop-out" is just a truth of human nature. I've seen it
in scouting, college, classic car clubs, etc. Exactly why newcomers move
on to other pursuits is one of life's mysteries in most cases.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK


With many people as soon as the new wears off and their initial
curiosity is satisfied, they move on to something new. Call it a short
attention span I guess.

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Bill Sohl wrote:


From the different organizations I've been involved with, I think the
larger beginner "drop-out" is just a truth of human nature. I've seen it
in scouting, college, classic car clubs, etc. Exactly why newcomers move
on to other pursuits is one of life's mysteries in most cases.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK


With many people as soon as the new wears off and their initial curiosity
is satisfied, they move on to something new. Call it a short attention
span I guess.

I disagree and do not believe that it is a short attention span. Life is
rich with possible activities and interests. To sort among them and
determine what you like for the long haul is often best done by sampling the
activity. This means starting and then "dropping out" of some things.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Bill Sohl wrote:
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"Dee Flint" wrote
In any activity it would be normal for the "beginners" group
group to be the largest segment. There are always a
lot of people who start activities but then drop out
for a wide variety of reasons.

Astute observation. It would be nice to find a way reduce that
"first
termer" attrition by promoting an atmosphere which reinforces the
reasons
they took the time and trouble to come aboard. To steal an idea
from
marketing, "It's usually a lot easier and cheaper to keep an old
customer
than to identify and recruit a new one."
73, de Hans, K0HB

From the different organizations I've been involved with, I think the
larger beginner "drop-out" is just a truth of human nature. I've
seen it
in scouting, college, classic car clubs, etc. Exactly why newcomers
move
on to other pursuits is one of life's mysteries in most cases.

It's a dirty job but somebody around here had to get to the bottom of
the bottom lines around here eventually.

You did, thankew for putting the cork in it William and g'nite.

.. . . dit dit . . .=20
=20

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK

w3rv

"KØHB" wrote in message
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"Dee Flint" wrote


In any activity it would be normal for the "beginners" group to be the
largest segment. There are always a
lot of people who start activities but then drop out
for a wide variety of reasons.


Astute observation. It would be nice to find a way reduce that "first
termer" attrition by promoting an atmosphere which reinforces the reasons
they took the time and trouble to come aboard. To steal an idea from
marketing, "It's usually a lot easier and cheaper to keep an old customer
than to identify and recruit a new one."

73, de Hans, K0HB

There will always be some we won't be able to keep no matter how hard we
try. There will always be some who were just trying it out to see if they
would like it but then found that they preferred other activities more. And
that's ok. At least they have broadened there knowledge of the world a bit
even if they don't stay with it.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

"Dee Flint" wrote


There will always be some we won't be able to keep no
matter how hard we try.

I can't argue with that. (And by extension, the less hard we try, the less
we'll be able to keep.)

But my PBI has little (if anything) to do with "keeping" them in the hobby.

It has to do with ARRL membership growing more representative of the whole
population of amateurs. (See the "Subject" line)

73, de Hans, K0HB

Dee Flint wrote:

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KØHB wrote:


The growth in numbers of Amateurs over the past decade
has been overwhelmingly via the Technician license.

.... since about 1987 or so, most new hams
have started out as Technicians.

Jim, we can nit-pick the semantics if you really think that's productive,
but the two statements above both seem to convey the same notion, which we
might more clearly state "Most new hams since 1991 have entered via the
Technician class which is now the largest single license class in the US,
comprising almost half (47.7%) of the population of licensees in this
country, nearly equal to the combined total population of the three higher
classes.".

73, de Hans, K0HB



In any activity it would be normal for the "beginners" group to be the
largest segment. There are always a lot of people who start activities but
then drop out for a wide variety of reasons.

Every person that drops out is one small failure on our part.

We need to cultivate these new folk into the ARS. They are a resource
that is being largely ignored by the "better Hams".

- Mike KB3EIA -

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Dee Flint wrote:

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KØHB wrote:


The growth in numbers of Amateurs over the past decade
has been overwhelmingly via the Technician license.

.... since about 1987 or so, most new hams
have started out as Technicians.

Jim, we can nit-pick the semantics if you really think that's productive,
but the two statements above both seem to convey the same notion, which
we might more clearly state "Most new hams since 1991 have entered via
the Technician class which is now the largest single license class in the
US, comprising almost half (47.7%) of the population of licensees in this
country, nearly equal to the combined total population of the three
higher classes.".
73, de Hans, K0HB

In any activity it would be normal for the "beginners" group to be the
largest segment. There are always a lot of people who start activities
but then drop out for a wide variety of reasons.

Every person that drops out is one small failure on our part.

I wouldn't take it that seriously. Lots of folks start something
new only to learn it isn't their "cup of tea." Now if they
drop because others in the hobby (whatever the hobby) didn't
welcome them or otherwise treated them in an unwelcome manner...
then that is a shame and a failure.

We need to cultivate these new folk into the ARS. They are a resource that
is being largely ignored by the "better Hams".
- Mike KB3EIA -

Agree...We should always be encouraging new blood.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK