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K=D8HB wrote: wrote ARRL membership as of 31 December 2004 was 151,727. The "individuals who are ARRL members" is given as 138,127. Obvious discrepancy there. ARRL does not clarify what seems to be a glaring error in arithmetic... No "discrepancy" exits; no "glaring error in arithmetic" exists. QST circulation numbers will always be lower than ARRL membership numbers because multi-member households recieve a single copy of QST. Sunuvagun! QST circulation numbers will always be higher than ARRL membership numbers because of library subscriptions and news stand sales. |
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"bb" wrote QST circulation numbers will always be higher than ARRL membership numbers because of library subscriptions and news stand sales. You're mistaken. de Hans, K0HB |
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From: "bb" on Sun,May 8 2005 11:15 am
K=D8=88B wrote: wrote ARRL membership as of 31 December 2004 was 151,727. The "individuals who are ARRL members" is given as 138,127. Obvious discrepancy there. ARRL does not clarify what seems to be a glaring error in arithmetic... No "discrepancy" exits; no "glaring error in arithmetic" exists. QST circulation numbers will always be lower than ARRL membership numbers because multi-member households recieve a single copy of QST. Sunuvagun! QST circulation numbers will always be higher than ARRL membership numbers because of library subscriptions and news stand sales. To quote from the ARRL's own page in regards to the "Publisher's Sworn Circulation Statement" on web page www.arrl.org/ads/circ.html - 1. Average monthly paid circulation by type: Association, individuals who are ARRL members 138,137 Subscribers, institutions such as libraries, etc. 816 Net single copy sales, radio stores, etc. 1,481 *includes 20,233 Life Members 140,434 Hans wants to escalate things to a Battle Royal when he feels anyone has "wronged" the blessed ARRL...other than him. :-) The total of Subscribers, institutions and net single copy sales is 2,297. That corresponds to only 1.64% of the total of 140,434. The total of 20,233 Life Members is far above that. More importantly, there's NO statement on how many households have more than one ARRL member so it is difficult to quantify Hans' CLAIM of "wrongness." Hans wants himself free of challenge. Now, if Hans says "no discrepancy exists" or "no glaring error in arithmetic exists," then IT DOESN'T EXIST!!! Further, if Hans says you are "completely wrong," then you ARE WRONG!!! Them's the Laws in this here "Everyone Loves da ARRL" newsgroup. Hans has spoken. Therefore it is SO. :-) Reality is different. But, reality doesn't exist in here. |
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wrote: From: "bb" on Sun,May 8 2005 11:15 am Reality is different. But, reality doesn't exist in here. Sure it does. we just can't get you and Brainless to come around to it. But we keep trying... Steve, K4YZ |
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K4YZ wrote: wrote: From: "bb" on Sun,May 8 2005 11:15 am Reality is different. But, reality doesn't exist in here. Sure it does. we just can't get you and Brainless to come around to it. But we keep trying... Steve, K4YZ Come around to accepting your falsehoods? Not likely. |
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bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: wrote: From: "bb" on Sun,May 8 2005 11:15 am Reality is different. But, reality doesn't exist in here. Sure it does. we just can't get you and Brainless to come around to it. But we keep trying... Steve, K4YZ Come around to accepting your falsehoods? Not likely. What "faslehoods"...?!?! Steve, K4YZ |
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K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: wrote: From: "bb" on Sun,May 8 2005 11:15 am Reality is different. But, reality doesn't exist in here. Sure it does. we just can't get you and Brainless to come around to it. But we keep trying... Steve, K4YZ Come around to accepting your falsehoods? Not likely. What "faslehoods"...?!?! Steve, K4YZ The things we see when you hit the "post message" button. |
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wrote 1. Average monthly paid circulation by type: Association, individuals who are ARRL members 138,137 Subscribers, institutions such as libraries, etc. 816 Net single copy sales, radio stores, etc. 1,481 *includes 20,233 Life Members 140,434 Simple addition It corresponds exactly with their claim of "Average paid circulation for the six months ended December 31, 2004 = 140,434" No "glaring error in arithmetic" that I can see! More importantly, there's NO statement on how many households have more than one ARRL member so it is difficult to quantify Hans' CLAIM of "wrongness." Not difficult to quantify at all, Len. From the same page you cut-and-pasted from we see that "American Radio Relay League membership, December 31, 2004 = 151,727", and from your cut-and-paste we learn that 138,137 copies were mailed to members (includes life members). Then by simple subtraction we can "quantify" that 13,590 members did not receive their own copy of QST, ergo, there are 13,590 ARRL members who live in the same household with another member who DOES receive a copy of QST. Sunuvagun! Reality doesn't care what Len believes. ZBM2, de Hans, K0HB |
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