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Old May 8th 05, 08:15 PM
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ARRL membership as of 31 December 2004 was 151,727.
The "individuals who are ARRL members" is given
as 138,127. Obvious discrepancy there. ARRL
does not clarify what seems to be a glaring error
in arithmetic...


No "discrepancy" exits; no "glaring error in arithmetic" exists.

QST circulation numbers will always be lower than ARRL membership

numbers
because multi-member households recieve a single copy of QST.

Sunuvagun!


QST circulation numbers will always be higher than ARRL membership
numbers because of library subscriptions and news stand sales.

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"bb" wrote

QST circulation numbers will always be higher
than ARRL membership numbers because of
library subscriptions and news stand sales.


You're mistaken.

de Hans, K0HB





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From: "bb" on Sun,May 8 2005 11:15 am

K=D8=88B wrote:
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ARRL membership as of 31 December 2004 was 151,727.
The "individuals who are ARRL members" is given
as 138,127. Obvious discrepancy there. ARRL
does not clarify what seems to be a glaring error
in arithmetic...


No "discrepancy" exits; no "glaring error in arithmetic" exists.

QST circulation numbers will always be lower than ARRL membership

numbers
because multi-member households recieve a single copy of QST.

Sunuvagun!


QST circulation numbers will always be higher than ARRL membership
numbers because of library subscriptions and news stand sales.


To quote from the ARRL's own page in regards to the
"Publisher's Sworn Circulation Statement" on web page
www.arrl.org/ads/circ.html -

1. Average monthly paid circulation by type:
Association, individuals who are ARRL members 138,137
Subscribers, institutions such as libraries, etc. 816
Net single copy sales, radio stores, etc. 1,481
*includes 20,233 Life Members 140,434

Hans wants to escalate things to a Battle Royal when he feels
anyone has "wronged" the blessed ARRL...other than him. :-)

The total of Subscribers, institutions and net single copy
sales is 2,297. That corresponds to only 1.64% of the total
of 140,434. The total of 20,233 Life Members is far above
that. More importantly, there's NO statement on how many
households have more than one ARRL member so it is difficult
to quantify Hans' CLAIM of "wrongness." Hans wants himself
free of challenge.

Now, if Hans says "no discrepancy exists" or "no glaring
error in arithmetic exists," then IT DOESN'T EXIST!!!

Further, if Hans says you are "completely wrong," then you
ARE WRONG!!!

Them's the Laws in this here "Everyone Loves da ARRL"
newsgroup. Hans has spoken. Therefore it is SO. :-)

Reality is different. But, reality doesn't exist in here.



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Reality is different. But, reality doesn't exist in here.


Sure it does. we just can't get you and Brainless to come around
to it.

But we keep trying...

Steve, K4YZ

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From: "bb" on Sun,May 8 2005 11:15 am


Reality is different. But, reality doesn't exist in here.


Sure it does. we just can't get you and Brainless to come

around
to it.

But we keep trying...

Steve, K4YZ


Come around to accepting your falsehoods? Not likely.



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bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
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From: "bb" on Sun,May 8 2005 11:15 am


Reality is different. But, reality doesn't exist in here.


Sure it does. we just can't get you and Brainless to come

around
to it.

But we keep trying...

Steve, K4YZ


Come around to accepting your falsehoods? Not likely.


What "faslehoods"...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

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K4YZ wrote:
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K4YZ wrote:
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From: "bb" on Sun,May 8 2005 11:15 am

Reality is different. But, reality doesn't exist in here.

Sure it does. we just can't get you and Brainless to come

around
to it.

But we keep trying...

Steve, K4YZ


Come around to accepting your falsehoods? Not likely.


What "faslehoods"...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ


The things we see when you hit the "post message" button.

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Old May 9th 05, 11:22 PM
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1. Average monthly paid circulation by type:
Association, individuals who are ARRL members 138,137
Subscribers, institutions such as libraries, etc. 816
Net single copy sales, radio stores, etc. 1,481
*includes 20,233 Life Members 140,434


Simple addition It corresponds exactly with their claim of

"Average paid circulation for the six months ended December 31, 2004 = 140,434"

No "glaring error in arithmetic" that I can see!

More importantly, there's NO statement on how many
households have more than one ARRL member so it is difficult
to quantify Hans' CLAIM of "wrongness."


Not difficult to quantify at all, Len. From the same page you cut-and-pasted
from we see that "American Radio Relay League membership, December 31, 2004 =
151,727", and from your cut-and-paste we learn that 138,137 copies were mailed
to members (includes life members). Then by simple subtraction we can "quantify"
that 13,590 members did not receive their own copy of QST, ergo, there are
13,590 ARRL members who live in the same household with another member who DOES
receive a copy of QST.

Sunuvagun!

Reality doesn't care what Len believes.

ZBM2,

de Hans, K0HB




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From: "bb" on Sun,May 8 2005 11:15 am

K=D8=88B wrote:
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ARRL membership as of 31 December 2004 was 151,727.
The "individuals who are ARRL members" is given
as 138,127. Obvious discrepancy there. ARRL
does not clarify what seems to be a glaring error
in arithmetic...

No "discrepancy" exits; no "glaring error in arithmetic" exists.

QST circulation numbers will always be lower than ARRL membership

numbers
because multi-member households recieve a single copy of QST.

Sunuvagun!


QST circulation numbers will always be higher than ARRL membership
numbers because of library subscriptions and news stand sales.


To quote from the ARRL's own page in regards to the
"Publisher's Sworn Circulation Statement" on web page
www.arrl.org/ads/circ.html -

1. Average monthly paid circulation by type:
Association, individuals who are ARRL members 138,137
Subscribers, institutions such as libraries, etc. 816
Net single copy sales, radio stores, etc. 1,481
*includes 20,233 Life Members 140,434

Hans wants to escalate things to a Battle Royal when he feels
anyone has "wronged" the blessed ARRL...other than him. :-)

The total of Subscribers, institutions and net single copy
sales is 2,297. That corresponds to only 1.64% of the total
of 140,434. The total of 20,233 Life Members is far above
that. More importantly, there's NO statement on how many
households have more than one ARRL member so it is difficult
to quantify Hans' CLAIM of "wrongness." Hans wants himself
free of challenge.

Now, if Hans says "no discrepancy exists" or "no glaring
error in arithmetic exists," then IT DOESN'T EXIST!!!

Further, if Hans says you are "completely wrong," then you
ARE WRONG!!!

Them's the Laws in this here "Everyone Loves da ARRL"
newsgroup. Hans has spoken. Therefore it is SO. :-)

Reality is different. But, reality doesn't exist in here.



Circulation numbers are higher than membership numbers as shown
above.

bb

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