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June 3rd 05, 01:21 AM
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Leo wrote:
On 1 Jun 2005 15:39:42 -0700, wrote: Leo wrote: On 31 May 2005 15:37:45 -0700, wrote: Leo wrote: On 31 May 2005 02:06:42 -0700, wrote: wrote: wrote: Arf! Arf! wrote: snip What part of that is not accurate, Leo? Maybe you are who you say you are, and maybe you aren't. Maybe "Arf!" is who he says he is - or maybe he ain't. Perhaps! Hmmm - let's see here....I wasn't agreeing with you, so perhaps I am not legitimate. Not at all. Your lack of verifiable ID means there's room for doubt. Same for "Arf" or any other anonymous poster. You seem to place a great deal of value on 'verifiability', Jim. I put some value on it. If a person really believes in what they say, why shouldn't they give their "real" identity? Heh. Just because someone's callbook ID is verifiable doesn't mean that much else is. Take you, for example - other than what's in the QRZ database, how much do we know about you? Just what you have stated in your posts - that's all. Actually some people here know a lot more. There's private email, my website (which you found), and articles I've written in amateur radio magazines. I've also met at least one other rrapper in person, and had QSOs with several others on the ham bands. In fact, I had QSOs with at least two other regulars here long before I ever heard of rrap. Is what you say true ? Yes. Maybe - maybe not. Unless someone is willing to put in the effort, time and expense to research an individual's claims, they can be neither proven nor disproven. Some claims are easily disproven, though. For example, here in the USA, amateur radio licenses have a normal term of 10 years. If a license is not renewed before the end of its term, the amateur loses all operating privileges. However, there is a two-year grace period during which a ham can apply for renewal without retesting. This is all explained clearly in Part 97 (FCC rules for the ARS. Len Anderson claimed that the FCC does not use the word "expired" to describe licenses that are in the grace period. Part 97 clearly shows that FCC does indeed use the words "expire" and "expired" for that purpose. So Len's claim is easily disproven. I suggest that, in a public forum such as this, an individual's behaviour is a far better indicator of who they are than something as silly as a callbook listing. Why is a callbook listing "silly"? I agree with you that someone's behaviour is a better indicator, though. Forget claims of education, heroic feats and braggodocio - just read what the individual writes, and you'll see the real person shine through. (for example, what were you doing when you questioned my 'legitimacy' in this thread, Jim - picking yet another fight with Len? No. Look back at the actual discussion, and you'll see it was about the possibility that you and Len were one and the same person. W3RV said it was not possible and I said it was. How is that trying to pick a fight? Hmmm - that happens a lot, doesn't it??) Actually, Len seems to want to pick fights with anyone who disagrees with him on Morse Code testing - or a variety of other subjects. Whether "Arf!" or anyone else here is 'legitimate' or not is quite immaterial! I agree! Tell it to Len, though. Why people are here, and how they behave while in here, is of much greater importance. And, of course, whether you believe that another poster is 'legitimate' or not is of no importance at all. Yet here you make a case for Arf! Arf!'s existance because he does agree with you. There's as much reason to doubt his claims as there is to doubt yours, Leo. And as little! Please note that Len insists on calling "Arf!" names and comparing him to Nigerian bank scammers, but does not do the same for those who agree with him. Not necessarily. I have not always agreed with Len's points either - nor he with mine - neither do I belittle his (considerable) accomplishments and experience or deliberately pick fights with him to bolster my own ego. (ahem). You mean like the way he makes fun of my name, education, age, license class, homebrew equipment, radio operating skills.... Maybe that's why civil discourse is possible between us? Duh..... Or maybe it's because you haven't disagreed with him on any of his trigger issues. Or maybe you and he are one and the same. Or maybe you're a friend of his, doing a version good cop/bad cop. Some of your phrases sound a lot like Len. That doesn't prove a thing, of course. Some on the group seem to have a pathological need to pick fights with others, though - are you suggesting that the target of these attacks should not return fire? (That wouldn't be much fun, would it?) Let's see... Len calls me names even though I don't call him anyhting except "Len" or "Mr. Anderson" or "Len Anderson". Len tells me and others here to shut up and/or go away - but I don't tell anyone to do either. Who is picking a fight with whom? In addition, Len has posted here under a variety of screen names (like "averyfine" and "averyfineman") often without any real ID. I had no problem figuring out who the author of those posts were - did you? At first. But that's not the point. Get the humor? Avery Fineman...A Very Fine Man...heh heh. Doesn't seem funny to me. Here's a simple, direct question: Do you think Len's little piece on the "Tomb of the Unknown Solder" is funny? Or is it an insult to the Unknowns? Or is it something else? 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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