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rom: K4YZ on Jun 6, 3:00 am

Some of them were on the front pages...two weren't.

Ahhhh, wowee! "Secret ops!" [all very hush-hush]

I didn't say they were "secret ops", Lennie..You did.

I just said they weren't on the front pages.

Focus, Scumbag...Focus.

When is when I was still on Active Duty.

Which was when, 1974 to 1992?

The rest is "For Me To Know An You To Find Out"...

Ho ho ho. Mighty warrior making with grade-school taunts.

Nope...Just love rubbing your nose in it.

OKAY...let's got down the line in the Almanac and see what
those "front page" hostile actions we

1. The Vietanm War...was on-going in 1970 and ended 29 Apr 75
with the evacuation of all Americans from Siagon. And
then had a brief restart with the capture of the US
merchant ship Mayaguez. The USMC attacked a little island
in "response."

Nope.

Big snip of other actions.

I told you, Lennie...It's none of your business.

You want to claim I wasn't there and it's "just a brag"...Have
fun.

You'll be lying to everyone here AND yourself.

Also...get the details of the Mayaguez operation correct,
please...

The USMC provided ground troops on that mission...It was also
supported by the USAF and the US Navy.

The "USMC" attacked nothing...the United States did. The Armed
Forces, including the Marine Corps, ONLY move on the orders of the
CIVILIAN government that was put there by the electorate.

Saying "My opinion is..." is one thing. That's black and white.

Okay, now we understand...you no longer CLAIM "seven hostile
actions"...that is just YOUR OPINION.

Nope.

Okay...it's just your BRAG. There's not enough for "seven" in
that list of "front page" news.

No brag.

And you missed some events, Lennie.

Short on facts again.

Embarrassing, isn't it, Scumbag? All that knowledge at your
fingertips and still coming up short...?!?!

Were you shouldering your boresighted code key in your secret
ops you don't mention? Busy giving the "enemy" hell with your
morsemanship? Or weren't you simply doing REAR-AREA stuff and
polishing your own booties?

I didn't say they were "secret ops".

You did.

I said they weren't on the front page. Not every deployment
of the Armed Forces is a banner news item.

"Weekly evidence?" There are large-enough emergencies EVERY
WEEK in the USA that require amateur radio communications
assistance? [I don't think so...not even "almost"...]

Yep.

Weekly.

Tsk. You spelled "weakly" wrong twice.

Nope. Got it right. Nice try at diversion,
though...Cute..Timely...

Is it YOUR OPINION that you were an "Assistant" NCOIC at a
MARS station 24 years ago?

No.

It's a matter of RECORD that I was ANCOIC of the Okinawa
Islandwide MARS System in 1981. I was NCOIC of NNN0MOC/MOF during that
same time...

Tsk, tsk. All we readers get is a BROKEN RECORD in here,
unintelligible sound punctuated by cursing clicks.

Was that also a "secret ops" that you can't talk about?

I didn't say "secret ops", Lennie...YOU did.

I said it wasn't front page stuff.

Do you acknowledge that the U.S. military runs MARS or is it
still YOUR OPINION that "MARS IS amateur radio?"

It's always been my postition that MARS is run by DoD.

NOOOOOOO. You are ON RECORD - and in the archives of Google -
as having DENIED that. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

You are lying, Lennie. Again.

It's ALSO been my position that my comments from the post you
continue to inaccurately paraphrase from were that the same spirit of
service that permeates Amateur Radio is part and parcel of the MARS
programs as they are almost completely fleshed out BY licensed,
civilian Amateur Radio operators.

"Completely?" Tsk, tsk. No again. MARS was originally begun
as a very small-scale (and low budget) ARMY project back in
1925...more for publicity for the Army than any real radio
improvement (Motorola did more of that in 1940 than any bunch
of amateur volunteers). USA and USAF combined that activity
after WW2 and gave it the name of MILITARY AFFILIATE Radio
System. USN-USMC were last to join MARS in the sixties.

"Motorola" as a company didn't exist until 1947, Lennie, so how
did THAT happen?

Until 1947 "Motorola" was a "model" of car radio.

(Damn...bet THAT stings.....)

If MARS is "completely fleshed out" by civilian volunteers, why
are there USA and USAF MARS MILITARY Headquarter installations
on MILITARY posts?

Lennie, if you're going to misquote me, it would behoove you to NOT
try and misquote me while simultaneously cut-and-pasting my exact words
from the previous post.

No Amateur Radio = No MARS.

No Army experiment in 1925 and there never would have been a
MARS. Sorry, you lost. MARS is NOT a player in any of the
worldwide U.S. military tactical communications networks.

It really is THAT simple.

The TRUTH is out there, but you keep retreating to your private
internal FANTASY. Tsk, tsk.

The "internal fantasy" here, is yours. That being that you know
anything truly meaningful about Amateur Radio or any of it's associated
programs.

Steve, K4YZ