John Smith wrote:
... actually, I just can tell a brain dead human when I see one...

John

"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...

John Smith wrote:

Buzzard Cornholing Corey:

I see you lower yourself down on the same level as two-test wogie.
Typical of a cber.



You shouldn't look in the mirror so much.

.... actually, I just can tell a brain dead human when I see one...

John

"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...
John Smith wrote:
Buzzard Cornholing Corey:

I see you lower yourself down on the same level as two-test wogie.
Typical of a cber.

Charles Brabham wrote:
"Dee Flint" wrote in message
...

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
N2EY:

I have asked the young men why they have no interest in getting a ham
license, it is because of the limitations placed on the no code
license--and the fact they are not interested in learning code to chat
with someone DX--a task which can be accomplished much easier and
reliably over the net with instant messaging, IRC chat, etc... that is
REAL. THAT is dropping the numbers of hams and putting bands in danger
of being lost... that is holding our numbers at such low levels the FCC
begins to find us more a bother than anything else...


This does NOT make sense when our numbers are near their all time high.

Yes - both in total numbers of US hams, and the ratio of hams to the
total US population.

In recent years the totals have begun to go down, and the percentage of
the
population as well. Reducing the license test requirements in 2000 has
not brought growth, yet some folks insist that more and more reductions
in test requirements are the only solution.

It's just another one of those guys who thinks that Ham Radio is only
relevant in as much as it resembles the Internet. - In other words, the guy
has no clue about the hobby but wants to run it down because it is not the
Internet.

BINGO!

Yet it is exactly the fact that amateur radio *is not* the internet
that is
the draw!

I use this attitude as a handy intelligence test for amateurs... If they
cannot differentiate between Amateur Radio and the Internet, or if they
cannot see why there should and would be differences between the two - then
I know that they are brain-damaged ( or even worse ) - associated with TAPR
or the ARRL's HSMM group.

In any case the attitude indicates a clueless state in relation to the
amateur radio hobby.

Makes sense to me!

73 de Jim, N2EY

Charles Brabham, N5PVL

Director: USPacket http://www.uspacket.org
Admin: HamBlog.Com http://www.hamblog.com
Webmaster: HamPoll.Com http://www.hampoll.com
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N2EY:

One point you got right, ham radio HAS TO compete with a superior form
of communication--the internet!

And, the only way it can is drop the code...

John

wrote in message
ups.com...
Charles Brabham wrote:
"Dee Flint" wrote in message
...

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
N2EY:

I have asked the young men why they have no interest in getting a
ham
license, it is because of the limitations placed on the no code
license--and the fact they are not interested in learning code to
chat
with someone DX--a task which can be accomplished much easier and
reliably over the net with instant messaging, IRC chat, etc...
that is
REAL. THAT is dropping the numbers of hams and putting bands in
danger
of being lost... that is holding our numbers at such low levels
the FCC
begins to find us more a bother than anything else...


This does NOT make sense when our numbers are near their all time
high.

Yes - both in total numbers of US hams, and the ratio of hams to the
total US population.

In recent years the totals have begun to go down, and the percentage
of
the
population as well. Reducing the license test requirements in 2000 has
not brought growth, yet some folks insist that more and more
reductions
in test requirements are the only solution.

It's just another one of those guys who thinks that Ham Radio is only
relevant in as much as it resembles the Internet. - In other words,
the guy
has no clue about the hobby but wants to run it down because it is
not the
Internet.

BINGO!

Yet it is exactly the fact that amateur radio *is not* the internet
that is
the draw!

I use this attitude as a handy intelligence test for amateurs... If
they
cannot differentiate between Amateur Radio and the Internet, or if
they
cannot see why there should and would be differences between the
two - then
I know that they are brain-damaged ( or even worse ) - associated
with TAPR
or the ARRL's HSMM group.

In any case the attitude indicates a clueless state in relation to
the
amateur radio hobby.

Makes sense to me!

73 de Jim, N2EY

Charles Brabham, N5PVL

Director: USPacket http://www.uspacket.org
Admin: HamBlog.Com http://www.hamblog.com
Webmaster: HamPoll.Com http://www.hampoll.com
Weblog: http://www.hamblog.com/blog_n5pvl.php

Commander Buzz Off:

....

John

"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...
John Smith wrote:
... actually, I just can tell a brain dead human when I see one...

John

"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...

John Smith wrote:

Buzzard Cornholing Corey:

I see you lower yourself down on the same level as two-test wogie.
Typical of a cber.



You shouldn't look in the mirror so much.

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Dee:

... all time high!

You attempt the argument that amateur radio has always been a ridiculous
cost for nothing--well, perhaps you are correct... time to increase our
numbers to a meaningful number...

ROFLOL

John


This statement makes no sense whatever.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


"Dee Flint" wrote in message
...

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
N2EY:

I have asked the young men why they have no interest in getting a ham
license, it is because of the limitations placed on the no code
license--and the fact they are not interested in learning code to chat
with someone DX--a task which can be accomplished much easier and
reliably over the net with instant messaging, IRC chat, etc... that is
REAL. THAT is dropping the numbers of hams and putting bands in danger
of being lost... that is holding our numbers at such low levels the FCC
begins to find us more a bother than anything else...


This does NOT make sense when our numbers are near their all time high.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Dee:

NO, only those who want to hide from facts won't "understand" the come
back...

John

"Dee Flint" wrote in message
...

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Dee:

... all time high!

You attempt the argument that amateur radio has always been a
ridiculous cost for nothing--well, perhaps you are correct... time to
increase our numbers to a meaningful number...

ROFLOL

John


This statement makes no sense whatever.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


"Dee Flint" wrote in message
...

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
N2EY:

I have asked the young men why they have no interest in getting a
ham license, it is because of the limitations placed on the no code
license--and the fact they are not interested in learning code to
chat with someone DX--a task which can be accomplished much easier
and reliably over the net with instant messaging, IRC chat, etc...
that is REAL. THAT is dropping the numbers of hams and putting
bands in danger of being lost... that is holding our numbers at
such low levels the FCC begins to find us more a bother than
anything else...


This does NOT make sense when our numbers are near their all time
high.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

John Smith wrote:
N2EY:

One point you got right, ham radio HAS TO compete with a
superior form of communication--the internet!

For some uses the internet is better than ham radio. For other
uses ham radio is better. The competition is for time only.

And, the only way it can is drop the code...

Do you mean hams should stop using Morse Code, or that there
should not be a Morse Code *test*?

In either case, how will that help ham radio compete for
time?

wrote in message
ups.com...
Charles Brabham wrote:
"Dee Flint" wrote in message
...

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
N2EY:

I have asked the young men why they have no interest in getting a
ham
license, it is because of the limitations placed on the no code
license--and the fact they are not interested in learning code to
chat
with someone DX--a task which can be accomplished much easier and
reliably over the net with instant messaging, IRC chat, etc...
that is
REAL. THAT is dropping the numbers of hams and putting bands in
danger
of being lost... that is holding our numbers at such low levels
the FCC
begins to find us more a bother than anything else...


This does NOT make sense when our numbers are near their all time
high.

Yes - both in total numbers of US hams, and the ratio of hams to the
total US population.

In recent years the totals have begun to go down, and the percentage
of
the
population as well. Reducing the license test requirements in 2000 has
not brought growth, yet some folks insist that more and more
reductions
in test requirements are the only solution.

It's just another one of those guys who thinks that Ham Radio is only
relevant in as much as it resembles the Internet. - In other words,
the guy
has no clue about the hobby but wants to run it down because it is
not the
Internet.

BINGO!

Yet it is exactly the fact that amateur radio *is not* the internet
that is
the draw!

I use this attitude as a handy intelligence test for amateurs... If
they
cannot differentiate between Amateur Radio and the Internet, or if
they
cannot see why there should and would be differences between the
two - then
I know that they are brain-damaged ( or even worse ) - associated
with TAPR
or the ARRL's HSMM group.

In any case the attitude indicates a clueless state in relation to
the
amateur radio hobby.

Makes sense to me!

73 de Jim, N2EY

Charles Brabham, N5PVL

Director: USPacket http://www.uspacket.org
Admin: HamBlog.Com http://www.hamblog.com
Webmaster: HamPoll.Com http://www.hampoll.com
Weblog: http://www.hamblog.com/blog_n5pvl.php

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
N2EY:

One point you got right, ham radio HAS TO compete with a superior form of
communication--the internet!

You got that wrong, right off the bat. Ham Radio and the non-ham stuff both
have thier good and bad points. That is to say; Both are superior to the
other - and inferior to the other at the same time. It is most accurate to
just say that they are different.


And, the only way it can is drop the code...

How about hopping on one leg with a paper sack over our heads, squawking
like a chicken? - It would have about the same amount of positive effect.

You seem to be really loaded up with ignorant and anti-ham catch-phrases,
easy to parrot I suppose. Did you pick up the ignorant attitudes at:

a. TAPR
b. ARRL HSMM group
c. WL2K
d. ARESCOM

.... Or is there some other source of utter cluelessness that you have
associated yourself with?

Charles Brabham, N5PVL

Director: USPacket http://www.uspacket.org
Admin: HamBlog.Com http://www.hamblog.com
Webmaster: HamPoll.Com http://www.hampoll.com
Weblog: http://www.hamblog.com/blog_n5pvl.php

N2EY:

I mean you have convinced me you are hopeless... you don't see a
problem... you are fine with the numbers... I don't think you give a
damn if we ever get enough young hams in here to make it interesting...
frankly I just don't think you give a damn about anything but status
quo... you have convinced me you are stone set in your ways and think
everything is fine... go for it... we will see as time passes... the
bands are boring and that is the way you like 'em--have at it... I got
the internet to chat on while I wait...

John

wrote in message
ups.com...
John Smith wrote:
N2EY:

One point you got right, ham radio HAS TO compete with a
superior form of communication--the internet!

For some uses the internet is better than ham radio. For other
uses ham radio is better. The competition is for time only.

And, the only way it can is drop the code...

Do you mean hams should stop using Morse Code, or that there
should not be a Morse Code *test*?

In either case, how will that help ham radio compete for
time?

wrote in message
ups.com...
Charles Brabham wrote:
"Dee Flint" wrote in message
...

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
N2EY:

I have asked the young men why they have no interest in getting
a
ham
license, it is because of the limitations placed on the no code
license--and the fact they are not interested in learning code
to
chat
with someone DX--a task which can be accomplished much easier
and
reliably over the net with instant messaging, IRC chat, etc...
that is
REAL. THAT is dropping the numbers of hams and putting bands
in
danger
of being lost... that is holding our numbers at such low
levels
the FCC
begins to find us more a bother than anything else...


This does NOT make sense when our numbers are near their all
time
high.

Yes - both in total numbers of US hams, and the ratio of hams to
the
total US population.

In recent years the totals have begun to go down, and the
percentage
of
the
population as well. Reducing the license test requirements in 2000
has
not brought growth, yet some folks insist that more and more
reductions
in test requirements are the only solution.

It's just another one of those guys who thinks that Ham Radio is
only
relevant in as much as it resembles the Internet. - In other
words,
the guy
has no clue about the hobby but wants to run it down because it is
not the
Internet.

BINGO!

Yet it is exactly the fact that amateur radio *is not* the internet
that is
the draw!

I use this attitude as a handy intelligence test for amateurs...
If
they
cannot differentiate between Amateur Radio and the Internet, or if
they
cannot see why there should and would be differences between the
two - then
I know that they are brain-damaged ( or even worse ) - associated
with TAPR
or the ARRL's HSMM group.

In any case the attitude indicates a clueless state in relation to
the
amateur radio hobby.

Makes sense to me!

73 de Jim, N2EY

Charles Brabham, N5PVL

Director: USPacket http://www.uspacket.org
Admin: HamBlog.Com http://www.hamblog.com
Webmaster: HamPoll.Com http://www.hampoll.com
Weblog: http://www.hamblog.com/blog_n5pvl.php