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June 9th 05, 06:35 PM
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John Smith wrote:
Morse is a ghost language spoken by old men when they do their rants and name their illnesses--much to the dismay of the vital and youthful hams... ? I've heard a lot of that on phone, but very little on CW. The new 5 WPM test for all classes will guarantee you will NOT be speaking morse to any young men--they will pass the 5 WPM to get the extra license... then you will never see them again--except on phone and modem... That is true to a fair extent. My own personal assessment of Haynie's talk is that he is correct to a large extent. The olde questions were not harder, they were different. Someone posed a couple of likely candidate old time q's to me, and it took me just a few minutes to find the answers. I think the main problem with the older hams being "better" than folks like me is the ability of many middle-aged and older men to get incredibly worked up about almost nothing, forecasting doom from inconsequential things. - Mike KB3EIA - |
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#2
June 9th 05, 11:26 PM
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Oh really? Then how do we explain the young contesters out there? Or the
many QSOs I have with hams on CW in their 20s and 30s? And I don't operate at 5wpm. Neither do they...think maybe they picked up some speed, eh? Dan/W4NTI "John Smith" wrote in message ... Morse is a ghost language spoken by old men when they do their rants and name their illnesses--much to the dismay of the vital and youthful hams... The new 5 WPM test for all classes will guarantee you will NOT be speaking morse to any young men--they will pass the 5 WPM to get the extra license... then you will never see them again--except on phone and modem... John "Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message nk.net... Bet the pilots among them know Morse. Dan/W4NTI "John Smith" wrote in message ... Well, all the astronauts are no code techs... guess those no-code'ers are in good and technical company... Warmest regards, John wrote in message oups.com... From: John Smith on Jun 8, 5:50 pm You would think the ARRL high priest would not abandon these guys--times must be tough... http://www.arrl.org/news/stori?es/2004/05/22/1/?nc=1 John -- Watching the cutting edge of yesterday replay--in virtual reality, right before my eyes--in real time! Thirty year old technology--wasn't it amazing? Tsk. It took the League long enough to see the "duhhhh..." :-) They've had adequate numbers all along. They've been seeing only what they want to believe. As of the end of 2004 the League had only 140 thousand members. That's about 20 percent of all U.S. amateur licensees. [from QST advertising webpage] Haynie has said that a "survey" showed fully 1 in 5 hams actually got on the air? Oh, my, a remarkable coincidence in the percentage of League membership. :-) [we now pause to have all loyal league believers vent their rage against those who defile 'their' organization...] |
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#3
June 9th 05, 04:53 AM
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From: "John Smith" on Wed 8 Jun 2005 17:21
Well, all the astronauts are no code techs... guess those no-code'ers are in good and technical company... Not "all." :-) Having a Tech license is part of their JOB. The JOB is basically PR work, keeping civilians feeling good about NASA (which needs all the public support it can get). Astronauts have all the NASA comms they need, don't need any ham bands via HTs to do their primary mission. :-) |
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#4
June 9th 05, 04:59 AM
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I meant the astronauts "with" licenses... the ones who put on a good
show chatting with hams for the media... Warmest regards, John wrote in message oups.com... From: "John Smith" on Wed 8 Jun 2005 17:21 Well, all the astronauts are no code techs... guess those no-code'ers are in good and technical company... Not "all." :-) Having a Tech license is part of their JOB. The JOB is basically PR work, keeping civilians feeling good about NASA (which needs all the public support it can get). Astronauts have all the NASA comms they need, don't need any ham bands via HTs to do their primary mission. :-) |
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#5
June 9th 05, 03:07 AM
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John Smith wrote:
Well, all the astronauts are no code techs... And yet you can't even manage that. |
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#6
June 9th 05, 07:03 AM
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Probably the least thing I have done in life is to get a ham license...
except for a few locals on 10 meters here, there is little left for me... well, the aussies and brits still have some interesting folks to chat with... John "Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message ... John Smith wrote: Well, all the astronauts are no code techs... And yet you can't even manage that. |
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#7
June 9th 05, 04:16 AM
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John Smith wrote:
Probably the least thing I have done in life is to get a ham license... except for a few locals on 10 meters here, there is little left for me... well, the aussies and brits still have some interesting folks to chat with... John Then why don't you turn in your license, get out of ham radio and then there will be one less 'old fart' that you despise so much killing off ham radio. |
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#8
June 9th 05, 04:14 AM
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wrote Haynie has said that a "survey" showed fully 1 in 5 hams actually got on the air? Dammit Len, your reading comprehension really is badly deteriorated. See a specialist quickly. What Haynie said was that the survey revealed that "more than one-fifth of new amateur licensees never get on the air." dit dit de Hans, K0HB -- http://www.home.earthlink.net/~k0hb |
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#9
June 9th 05, 04:16 AM
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Yes, that is correct... and probaby only 1/5 of THOSE 4/5 will bother
with the ARRL... John "KØHB" wrote in message news  wrote Haynie has said that a "survey" showed fully 1 in 5 hams actually got on the air? Dammit Len, your reading comprehension really is badly deteriorated. See a specialist quickly. What Haynie said was that the survey revealed that "more than one-fifth of new amateur licensees never get on the air." dit dit de Hans, K0HB -- http://www.home.earthlink.net/~k0hb |
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#10
June 9th 05, 05:19 AM
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From: John Smith on Jun 8, 10:16 pm
Yes, that is correct... and probaby only 1/5 of THOSE 4/5 will bother with the ARRL... John John, Hans just doesn't understand. When he gets like that he is extremely touchy-grouchy. Regardless, the League still doesn't have but about 1 out of every 5 U.S. amateur radio licensees as members. The League can't seem to "raise" that much. A couple years ago they got to about 23%, then it fell off. "K0HB" wrote in message news
wrote Haynie has said that a "survey" showed fully 1 in 5 hams actually got on the air? Dammit Len, your reading comprehension really is badly deteriorated. See a specialist quickly. Tsk, tsk, master super chief of all. Didn't you notice a little QUESTION MARK I put at the end of my sentence? You quoted it and STILL didn't see it! YOUR problem, not mine. Read it again and RECOGNIZE the punctuation. Sigh. What Haynie said was that the survey revealed that "more than one-fifth of new amateur licensees never get on the air." Go uncork a fifth and go for stupor-ville, mighty super master chief. You will feel better...but not in the morning. Good luck on this one, now... |
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