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[email protected] July 8th 05 07:24 PM

From: K4YZ on Jul 8, 11:01 am

b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
b.b. wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:



Massive snip of usual Brain P Burke deceptions and lies...his kids
will have enough to deal with when they get older...


Marty McFly flies again in Back To Futureworld!

There's a frequency, I think 5.170 off the top of my head, that all
amateurs in Alaska are allowed to use for emergencies. Includes
Technicians. Oooops. Violates the defunct treaty.


Several points:


(1) The exact frequency is 5167.5KHz...or 5.1675MHz if you
prefer) ...


The FCC does not "prefer," it MANDATES in Part 97.401 (c) !!!

5.1675 MHz, J3E or R3E modulation, RF power out 150 W maximum.

Source: ARRL's own text on the latest version of Part 97!


I can handle either. Would you like to attempt a hertz conversion?


I've got a pretty good memory (and can remember most of your lies)


Then you've got a lot of unused storage space available.

You've not yet substantiated a single one of your "lie" accusations.


Tsk, tsk. Again with the LIE! LIE! LIE! :-)


it was previously posted in Part 97 as 5.170 MHz.


Not in recent history...recent being back into the 80's when I
first remember seeing it.


Tsk, tsk, the CURRENT issue of Part 97 on the ARRL website is
a gasp! "LIE?" :-)


The regs have been rewritten to allow for people who don't understand
the bandwidth of an J3E or R3E emission. Congratulations. You
qualify.


Don't believe me? Ask amateur historian Jim.


[...that's "renowned" amateur historian...]


No, I don't believe you. You're a chronic liar.

And what you don't lie about, you manage to get wrong as a
consequence of inadequate experience or research.


Poor baby...mad as hell and can't take it anymore!

EVERYBODY ELSE *LIES* *LIES* *LIES* ! ! ! :-)


Either way, a "bet" on information provided by you would be money
lost.


Guess that's why the ARRL BoD doesn't meet much in Las Vegas, NV,
huh? :-)

Yawn...




b.b. July 9th 05 12:32 AM



K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:


Why?


Because it is a NoCode band and logicaly should not require a code test
to use it if code is forbidden


(A) It's not a "band". It's five discreet channels.


Why is it called 60 Meters? is 60 meters a discrete frequency?

(B) The mode restriction is due to other adjacent channel users
that we must dovetail with...Not due to any altruistic debate over
Morse Code use or testing.


Wrong answer. A CW signal would dovetail nicely given the allocated
bandwidth. So why not CW?

The 5Mhz channels still fall below 30Mhz.


So what?

Is it a newsflash to you that S25.2 has changed?

There is NO LEGAL magic at 30Mhz there was but no more


Sure there is.

YOU need to read how it's worded.

The international treat gives individual administrations the
OPTION of requiring code testing.


Gotta love those International "Treats." Better than smores.

The FCC's reply to the question was that S25.2 required it.
The PCTA's answer to the question was that S25.2 required it.

Guess what...?!?!

The United States is in compliance with the treaty.


Arbitrary licensing requirements are still a problem.

The treaty no longer requires such arbitrary licensing requirements.

More Robeson Wrongness snipped.


b.b. July 9th 05 12:59 AM



K4YZ wrote:
b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

b.b. wrote:

an_old_friend wrote:

Hmm Brain responding to a post i haven't seen yet

Ya gotta love seeing Markie responding to Burke's posts calling
him "Brain"...


Only Robber's Son would enjoy making fun of a disabled person's
disability.


He's not disabled.

He's lazy.


You're crazy.

There's a frequency, I think 5.170 off the top of my head, that all
amateurs in Alaska are allowed to use for emergencies. Includes
Technicians. Oooops. Violates the defunct treaty.

Several points:

(1) The exact frequency is 5167.5KHz...or 5.1675MHz if you
prefer) ...


I can handle either. Would you like to attempt a hertz conversion?

I've got a pretty good memory (and can remember most of your lies)


Then you've got a lot of unused storage space available.


Everyone does. It's said that we use only 10% of our brain.

You use less than 10% emotional maturity.


b.b. July 9th 05 01:04 AM



wrote:
From: K4YZ on Jul 8, 11:01 am

b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
b.b. wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:



Massive snip of usual Brain P Burke deceptions and lies...his kids
will have enough to deal with when they get older...


Marty McFly flies again in Back To Futureworld!

There's a frequency, I think 5.170 off the top of my head, that all
amateurs in Alaska are allowed to use for emergencies. Includes
Technicians. Oooops. Violates the defunct treaty.


Several points:


(1) The exact frequency is 5167.5KHz...or 5.1675MHz if you
prefer) ...


The FCC does not "prefer," it MANDATES in Part 97.401 (c) !!!

5.1675 MHz, J3E or R3E modulation, RF power out 150 W maximum.

Source: ARRL's own text on the latest version of Part 97!


I can handle either. Would you like to attempt a hertz conversion?


I've got a pretty good memory (and can remember most of your lies)


Then you've got a lot of unused storage space available.

You've not yet substantiated a single one of your "lie" accusations.


Tsk, tsk. Again with the LIE! LIE! LIE! :-)


it was previously posted in Part 97 as 5.170 MHz.


Not in recent history...recent being back into the 80's when I
first remember seeing it.


Tsk, tsk, the CURRENT issue of Part 97 on the ARRL website is
a gasp! "LIE?" :-)


The regs have been rewritten to allow for people who don't understand
the bandwidth of an J3E or R3E emission. Congratulations. You
qualify.


Don't believe me? Ask amateur historian Jim.


[...that's "renowned" amateur historian...]


No, I don't believe you. You're a chronic liar.

And what you don't lie about, you manage to get wrong as a
consequence of inadequate experience or research.


Poor baby...mad as hell and can't take it anymore!

EVERYBODY ELSE *LIES* *LIES* *LIES* ! ! ! :-)


Either way, a "bet" on information provided by you would be money
lost.


Guess that's why the ARRL BoD doesn't meet much in Las Vegas, NV,
huh? :-)

Yawn...



In RRAP we have the uniformed, and we have the uninformed. Some are
both, some are neither.


K4YZ July 9th 05 02:02 PM



wrote:
From: K4YZ on Jul 8, 11:01 am
b.b. wrote:


(1) The exact frequency is 5167.5KHz...or 5.1675MHz if you
prefer) ...


The FCC does not "prefer," it MANDATES in Part 97.401 (c) !!!

5.1675 MHz, J3E or R3E modulation, RF power out 150 W maximum.

Source: ARRL's own text on the latest version of Part 97!


I suppose there was a point to that, but then again, considering
the author, I'd be wrong.....

Big snip of ususal LennieRant Diversions

Yawn...


Lay off the Geritol and you'll be a bit less drowsy, Lennie...



Steve, K4YZ


an_old_friend July 9th 05 08:25 PM



K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
b.b. (Brian P Burke, N0IMD) wrote:

an_old_friend (Mark C Morgan, KB9RQZ) wrote:

Hmm Brain responding to a post i haven't seen yet

Ya gotta love seeing Markie responding to Burke's posts calling
him "Brain"...


he doesn't mind


Sure he does.


BB say he oesn't


BTW nobody gotta love Stevie just because you say so


And where did I say so, Markie?


never said you said it

you hacked up the post enough so that I not sure but I think BB said
you gotta love Stevie

I disagreed

I do disagree with more folks that just yourself Stevie


The FCC could of course have allowed it to techs and frankly they
should have

Why?


Because it is a NoCode band and logicaly should not require a code test
to use it if code is forbidden


(A) It's not a "band". It's five discreet channels.


so?


(B) The mode restriction is due to other adjacent channel users
that we must dovetail with...Not due to any altruistic debate over
Morse Code use or testing.


and I am as cappable as they are or you are of using USB on the bands
or channels or whatever you care to call em

since Morse Code is forbidden there there is NO logical reason that
Morse Code test should be required in order to operate there, or at
worst a tech liecnsee with CSSE for the general writen test, should be
able to operate there




The 5Mhz channels still fall below 30Mhz.


So what?

Is it a newsflash to you that S25.2 has changed?

There is NO LEGAL magic at 30Mhz there was but no more


Sure there is.


Nope


YOU need to read how it's worded.

The international treat gives individual administrations the
OPTION of requiring code testing.



yes I know that

but given the only legal barriar to assgining freqs was the treaty the
FCC was free to assign them to tech's

If they can do that then there is NO legal magic

Indeed as BB has pointed out Techs are allowed to operate below 30mhz
NOW which you claim is illegal

You go read the rules before you lecture others


Guess what...?!?!

The United States is in compliance with the treaty.


Never said otherwise



There's a frequency, I think 5.170 off the top of my head, that all
amateurs in Alaska are allowed to use for emergencies. Includes
Technicians. Oooops. Violates the defunct treaty.

Several points:

(1) The exact frequency is 5167.5KHz...or 5.1675MHz if you
prefer) ...However it's restricted to stations (ALL FCC licensed
stations...) in or within 50 miles of the State of Alaska, and is
strictly for Emergency use only. One discreet channel. And it's not
an "Amateur" channel. Amateurs are allowed on this frequency as an
accomodation to safety. A real stretch to cite it as a "violation" of
any treaty.

(2) The treaty you refer to is NOT "defunct". It is still very
much in force. It HAS been ammended, however present United States
rules and regulations as they pertain to the treaty are in compliance
with said treaty.


so he should have defunct provision


What? Huh?


defunct provision


grow up


I have. And someday you will too. But not today, apparently.


nope you haven't


the United States STILL requires that an Amateur licensee to
have passed Element 1 to operate below 30Mhz.

No it does not

Yes, it does.


nope


Oh?


nope

Markie...You're either disagreeing for arguments sake, or you are
again demonstrating your absolute ignorance of United States policy as
it pertains to the Amateur Radio service.


niether of course I am disagreeing with YOUR despection of the LAWS of
the US


Or just lying again.


nope


it requires them to be tested on bands assigned to the
general and extra bands

Uh huh....Which are...?!?!


well known to you. till they are avalable to me I'll not bother to
learn


So...Got slapped around and now you gonna schlep away with your
tail between your legs!


Nursie learn anatomy

I don't know or care except in general terms what HF bands exist at
present those rules will likely change before i make any use of them


BBBWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
! ! ! ! ! !


crybaby


BELOW 30MHZ ! ! ! ! !


So what


So you're patently wrong again.


No I am not


QUICK, MARKIE! REVIEW TIME!

What are the four exceptions that allow a "Technician" to act as
control operator of an Amateur Radio station below 30MHz...?!?!?


none that apply to me


Absolutely correct.

and what I think you are referring isbad decision of the FCCto end
thech vs thech plus license


They only eneded their admistrative tracking of it. The license,
in practice, still exisits.


That is one way of looking at it.

BTW do you agree or disagree that whatever you said they did was a
mistake?


hopefully that mistake will be fixed


The FCC has clarly demonstrated that they are all about "less"
regulation and administrative burden...not more.


Then of course FCC should (from it's own point of view) go a one
license soloutaion
which would fix what I call a mistake

as would (as I understand the ARRL's proposal) the ARRL would fix this
by making all tech inclduing myself General License holder.

Thus I have hopes that this mistake will be fixed in some fashion


And WHAT common thread do each of those exceptions have in common
with the present Novice, General, Advanced and Extra class licensees?


so?


"so?" was the wrong answer. You lose.


no it wasn't but you don't know that

Now on to turth


Turth? Is that near Intercourse, Pennsylvania?

Nothing prevents the FCC from allowing hambands anywhere in the
spectrum and assigning them to Tech class, and allowing techs without
code tests to use them

NOTHING but tradition perhaps


And nothing but it's current policy that takes advantage of treaty
language that gives administrations the priviledge of determining their
own course.


Current Policy? You have reason to believe that S25.2 will be put back
into something like it older form

The treaty is LAW a part of the hisest law of the Land in the US (to
forgeiners well YMMV)


I DO agree that the FCC COULD have immediately enacted interim
"policy" that could have allowed licensees who pass the higher class
WRITTEN exams to exercise those privileges without the benefit of
passing Element 1 until it had been "officially" dealt with.

But they didn't, so it's still here. Oh well.


which misses the point of course

60m was a new (to us band or set of reqs or whatever) in setting the
rules they could have assigned to the tech class if they choose


Techs can use Morse Code on VHF and above. I knew one who did
Quitefine at it.

Techs can use Morse Code on HF, too. But hey, I thought YOU
insisted that SOMEone has chased all the Techs away...?!?!


indeed he has you chase them away not all stay away


I haven't chased anyone away, Markie. My VHF log has many, many
NCT's on 6 and 2M SSB.


liar you chssed me of for awhile


Another QuiteWrongLie it seems.


nope


Yep.


nope


Steve, K4YZ



b.b. July 10th 05 12:07 AM



an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
b.b. (Brian P Burke, N0IMD) wrote:

an_old_friend (Mark C Morgan, KB9RQZ) wrote:

Hmm Brain responding to a post i haven't seen yet

Ya gotta love seeing Markie responding to Burke's posts calling
him "Brain"...

he doesn't mind


Sure he does.


BB say he oesn't


The very, very small mind of Robeson thinks it's a baaad thing to call
me. He lies awake at night thinking of names to call people.

BTW nobody gotta love Stevie just because you say so


And where did I say so, Markie?


never said you said it

you hacked up the post enough so that I not sure but I think BB said
you gotta love Stevie

I disagreed

I do disagree with more folks that just yourself Stevie


The prozac people gotta love Steve.

The FCC could of course have allowed it to techs and frankly they
should have

Why?

Because it is a NoCode band and logicaly should not require a code test
to use it if code is forbidden


(A) It's not a "band". It's five discreet channels.


so?


Mark's logic is perfect. Steve's reply is not applicable.

(B) The mode restriction is due to other adjacent channel users
that we must dovetail with...Not due to any altruistic debate over
Morse Code use or testing.


and I am as cappable as they are or you are of using USB on the bands
or channels or whatever you care to call em

since Morse Code is forbidden there there is NO logical reason that
Morse Code test should be required in order to operate there, or at
worst a tech liecnsee with CSSE for the general writen test, should be
able to operate there


Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!!!

The 5Mhz channels still fall below 30Mhz.

So what?

Is it a newsflash to you that S25.2 has changed?

There is NO LEGAL magic at 30Mhz there was but no more


Sure there is.


Nope


It's all PFM for the followers of St. Hiram.

YOU need to read how it's worded.

The international treat gives individual administrations the
OPTION of requiring code testing.



yes I know that

but given the only legal barriar to assgining freqs was the treaty the
FCC was free to assign them to tech's

If they can do that then there is NO legal magic

Indeed as BB has pointed out Techs are allowed to operate below 30mhz
NOW which you claim is illegal

You go read the rules before you lecture others


Hmmm? I don't think so. Tech's with a 5WPM Farnsworth CSCE can.


Guess what...?!?!

The United States is in compliance with the treaty.


Never said otherwise


I didn't see you say otherwise either.

There's a frequency, I think 5.170 off the top of my head, that all
amateurs in Alaska are allowed to use for emergencies. Includes
Technicians. Oooops. Violates the defunct treaty.

Several points:

(1) The exact frequency is 5167.5KHz...or 5.1675MHz if you
prefer) ...However it's restricted to stations (ALL FCC licensed
stations...) in or within 50 miles of the State of Alaska, and is
strictly for Emergency use only. One discreet channel. And it's not
an "Amateur" channel. Amateurs are allowed on this frequency as an
accomodation to safety. A real stretch to cite it as a "violation" of
any treaty.

(2) The treaty you refer to is NOT "defunct". It is still very
much in force. It HAS been ammended, however present United States
rules and regulations as they pertain to the treaty are in compliance
with said treaty.

so he should have defunct provision


What? Huh?


defunct provision


grow up


I have. And someday you will too. But not today, apparently.


nope you haven't


He's the Dick Clark of Amateur Radio. The USA's most immature Extra.


K4YZ July 11th 05 03:52 PM



b.b. wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


BB say he oesn't


The very, very small mind of Robeson thinks it's a baaad thing to call
me. He lies awake at night thinking of names to call people.


Nope. You just fit a mold, Brain.

you hacked up the post enough so that I not sure but I think BB said
you gotta love Stevie

I disagreed

I do disagree with more folks that just yourself Stevie


The prozac people gotta love Steve.


Why?

The FCC could of course have allowed it to techs and frankly they
should have

Why?

Because it is a NoCode band and logicaly should not require a code test
to use it if code is forbidden

(A) It's not a "band". It's five discreet channels.


so?


Mark's logic is perfect. Steve's reply is not applicable.


No his isn't and yer mine is.

(B) The mode restriction is due to other adjacent channel users
that we must dovetail with...Not due to any altruistic debate over
Morse Code use or testing.


and I am as cappable as they are or you are of using USB on the bands
or channels or whatever you care to call em

since Morse Code is forbidden there there is NO logical reason that
Morse Code test should be required in order to operate there, or at
worst a tech liecnsee with CSSE for the general writen test, should be
able to operate there


Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!!!


Not until the FCC says otehrwise, Brain.

The 5Mhz channels still fall below 30Mhz.

So what?

Is it a newsflash to you that S25.2 has changed?

There is NO LEGAL magic at 30Mhz there was but no more

Sure there is.


Nope


It's all PFM for the followers of St. Hiram.


I follow the FCC, and they say it requires an Amateur license to
operate on those "channels". Those channels fall below 30Mhz. The
present ITU document that facilitates international amateur radio
regulations permits individual administrations to test for Morse Code
competency for access to HF.

The United States still requires Morse Code testing for access to
HF.

YOU need to read how it's worded.

The international treat gives individual administrations the


yes I know that


Obviously not.

You've made statements that indicate you don't understand.

but given the only legal barriar to assgining freqs was the treaty the
FCC was free to assign them to tech's

If they can do that then there is NO legal magic

Indeed as BB has pointed out Techs are allowed to operate below 30mhz
NOW which you claim is illegal


There you go lying again.

I very specifically delineated under what circumstances "Techs"
may operate on HF.

You go read the rules before you lecture others


I have.

You're the one with the comprehension deficit.

Hmmm? I don't think so. Tech's with a 5WPM Farnsworth CSCE can.


There's no "Farnsworth CSCE" in existance, Brain.

Guess what...?!?!

The United States is in compliance with the treaty.


Never said otherwise


I didn't see you say otherwise either.


Sure he did.

When he said that there was no longer a treaty that permitted code
testing.

He was wrong.

There's a frequency, I think 5.170 off the top of my head, that all
amateurs in Alaska are allowed to use for emergencies. Includes
Technicians. Oooops. Violates the defunct treaty.

Several points:

(1) The exact frequency is 5167.5KHz...or 5.1675MHz if you
prefer) ...However it's restricted to stations (ALL FCC licensed
stations...) in or within 50 miles of the State of Alaska, and is
strictly for Emergency use only. One discreet channel. And it's not
an "Amateur" channel. Amateurs are allowed on this frequency as an
accomodation to safety. A real stretch to cite it as a "violation" of
any treaty.

(2) The treaty you refer to is NOT "defunct". It is still very
much in force. It HAS been ammended, however present United States
rules and regulations as they pertain to the treaty are in compliance
with said treaty.

so he should have defunct provision

What? Huh?


defunct provision


grow up

I have. And someday you will too. But not today, apparently.


nope you haven't


He's the Dick Clark of Amateur Radio. The USA's most immature Extra.


Nope....we'll hold that "honor" for you, Brain.

Brain and Markie on the same "team"...A gene pool that still
doesn't come up to a 2 digit number...

Steve, K4YZ


b.b. July 12th 05 04:28 AM



K4YZ wrote:
b.b. wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


BB say he oesn't


The very, very small mind of Robeson thinks it's a baaad thing to call
me. He lies awake at night thinking of names to call people.


Nope. You just fit a mold, Brain.


...

you hacked up the post enough so that I not sure but I think BB said
you gotta love Stevie

I disagreed

I do disagree with more folks that just yourself Stevie


The prozac people gotta love Steve.


Why?


Sales.

The FCC could of course have allowed it to techs and frankly they
should have

Why?

Because it is a NoCode band and logicaly should not require a code test
to use it if code is forbidden

(A) It's not a "band". It's five discreet channels.

so?


Mark's logic is perfect. Steve's reply is not applicable.


No his isn't and yer mine is.


Hi!

(B) The mode restriction is due to other adjacent channel users
that we must dovetail with...Not due to any altruistic debate over
Morse Code use or testing.

and I am as cappable as they are or you are of using USB on the bands
or channels or whatever you care to call em

since Morse Code is forbidden there there is NO logical reason that
Morse Code test should be required in order to operate there, or at
worst a tech liecnsee with CSSE for the general writen test, should be
able to operate there


Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!!!


Not until the FCC says otehrwise, Brain.


The FCC has failed so many logic tests already.

The 5Mhz channels still fall below 30Mhz.

So what?

Is it a newsflash to you that S25.2 has changed?

There is NO LEGAL magic at 30Mhz there was but no more

Sure there is.

Nope


It's all PFM for the followers of St. Hiram.


I follow the FCC, and they say it requires an Amateur license to
operate on those "channels". Those channels fall below 30Mhz. The
present ITU document that facilitates international amateur radio
regulations permits individual administrations to test for Morse Code
competency for access to HF.

The United States still requires Morse Code testing for access to
HF.


For now. And it doesn't have to make sense or be consistent with other
regulations. That's why it is arbitrary.

YOU need to read how it's worded.

The international treat gives individual administrations the

yes I know that


Obviously not.

You've made statements that indicate you don't understand.

but given the only legal barriar to assgining freqs was the treaty the
FCC was free to assign them to tech's

If they can do that then there is NO legal magic

Indeed as BB has pointed out Techs are allowed to operate below 30mhz
NOW which you claim is illegal


There you go lying again.

I very specifically delineated under what circumstances "Techs"
may operate on HF.

You go read the rules before you lecture others


I have.

You're the one with the comprehension deficit.

Hmmm? I don't think so. Tech's with a 5WPM Farnsworth CSCE can.


There's no "Farnsworth CSCE" in existance, Brain.


Hi! Tell it to the ARRL VEC.

Guess what...?!?!

The United States is in compliance with the treaty.

Never said otherwise


I didn't see you say otherwise either.


Sure he did.

When he said that there was no longer a treaty that permitted code
testing.

He was wrong.

There's a frequency, I think 5.170 off the top of my head, that all
amateurs in Alaska are allowed to use for emergencies. Includes
Technicians. Oooops. Violates the defunct treaty.

Several points:

(1) The exact frequency is 5167.5KHz...or 5.1675MHz if you
prefer) ...However it's restricted to stations (ALL FCC licensed
stations...) in or within 50 miles of the State of Alaska, and is
strictly for Emergency use only. One discreet channel. And it's not
an "Amateur" channel. Amateurs are allowed on this frequency as an
accomodation to safety. A real stretch to cite it as a "violation" of
any treaty.

(2) The treaty you refer to is NOT "defunct". It is still very
much in force. It HAS been ammended, however present United States
rules and regulations as they pertain to the treaty are in compliance
with said treaty.

so he should have defunct provision

What? Huh?

defunct provision


grow up

I have. And someday you will too. But not today, apparently.

nope you haven't


He's the Dick Clark of Amateur Radio. The USA's most immature Extra.


Nope....we'll hold that "honor" for you, Brain.


I'm no Extra.

Brain and Markie on the same "team"...A gene pool that still
doesn't come up to a 2 digit number...

Steve, K4YZ


Steve and Bruce on the same team.


K4YZ July 12th 05 03:14 PM



b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


The prozac people gotta love Steve.


Why?


Sales.


Why?

since Morse Code is forbidden there there is NO logical reason that
Morse Code test should be required in order to operate there, or at
worst a tech liecnsee with CSSE for the general writen test, should be
able to operate there

Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!!!


Not until the FCC says otehrwise, Brain.


The FCC has failed so many logic tests already.


So have you.

Like why does a married Veteran with small children lie repeatedly
and prolifically in a public forum...?!?!

The United States still requires Morse Code testing for access to
HF.


For now. And it doesn't have to make sense or be consistent with other
regulations. That's why it is arbitrary.


It's not "arbitrary".

That's an "out" that people try to use when they want to avoid
facing reality.

There's no "Farnsworth CSCE" in existance, Brain.


Hi! Tell it to the ARRL VEC.


I'll tell it to them all.

There's no "Farnsworth CSCE". Not in the ARRL VEC, the W%YI, VEC,
or any of the others.

It doesn't exist.

He's the Dick Clark of Amateur Radio. The USA's most immature Extra.


Nope....we'll hold that "honor" for you, Brain.


I'm no Extra.


So right on so many levels.

Brain and Markie on the same "team"...A gene pool that still
doesn't come up to a 2 digit number...


Steve and Bruce on the same team.


Bruce who?

If you're refering to N8DOS (SK), why shouldn't we be? He was my
father.

If you refer to ULX, well, there's yet another silly assertion on
YOUR part that will never stand the test of scrutiny...

Steve, K4YZ


an_old_friend July 12th 05 06:15 PM



K4YZ wrote:
b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


The prozac people gotta love Steve.

Why?


Sales.


Why?

since Morse Code is forbidden there there is NO logical reason that
Morse Code test should be required in order to operate there, or at
worst a tech liecnsee with CSSE for the general writen test, should be
able to operate there

Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!!!

Not until the FCC says otehrwise, Brain.


The FCC has failed so many logic tests already.


So have you.


Agreeing that the FCC is not always logical progress Boyo


Like why does a married Veteran with small children lie repeatedly
and prolifically in a public forum...?!?!


Why do you lie so much Stevie I can't undersatnd it, either

an example like Saying the Borther Grimm were not linguists



The United States still requires Morse Code testing for access to
HF.


For now. And it doesn't have to make sense or be consistent with other
regulations. That's why it is arbitrary.


It's not "arbitrary".


It sure is


That's an "out" that people try to use when they want to avoid
facing reality.


BTW the FCC does not require Morse testing in all cases for HF use.


There's no "Farnsworth CSCE" in existance, Brain.


Hi! Tell it to the ARRL VEC.


I'll tell it to them all.

There's no "Farnsworth CSCE". Not in the ARRL VEC, the W%YI, VEC,
or any of the others.


can't even give W5YI the proper speling Stevie


It doesn't exist.


All hail Stevie

He's the Dick Clark of Amateur Radio. The USA's most immature Extra.

Nope....we'll hold that "honor" for you, Brain.


I'm no Extra.


So right on so many levels.


if you are an example then it hardly much to aspire too


Brain and Markie on the same "team"...A gene pool that still
doesn't come up to a 2 digit number...


Steve and Bruce on the same team.


Bruce who?

If you're refering to N8DOS (SK), why shouldn't we be? He was my
father.


because he is dead and I hope burried (please if you are keeping him
round the house don't tell us)


If you refer to ULX, well, there's yet another silly assertion on
YOUR part that will never stand the test of scrutiny...

Steve, K4YZ



K4YZ July 15th 05 04:54 AM



an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


The FCC has failed so many logic tests already.


So have you.


Agreeing that the FCC is not always logical progress Boyo


"Boyo"..?!?!

Fixation with kids, Markie?

You've been claiming the opposite this week.

Like why does a married Veteran with small children lie repeatedly
and prolifically in a public forum...?!?!


Why do you lie so much Stevie I can't undersatnd it, either


But I don't. That's what confuses you.

You can't understand why someone would tell the truth when lying
and making stuff up is so much "fun".

an example like Saying the Borther Grimm were not linguists


They're not.

They're dead.

The United States still requires Morse Code testing for access to
HF.

For now. And it doesn't have to make sense or be consistent with other
regulations. That's why it is arbitrary.


It's not "arbitrary".


It sure is


Nope.

That's an "out" that people try to use when they want to avoid
facing reality.


BTW the FCC does not require Morse testing in all cases for HF use.


Of course not. But it does for Amateur use.

There's no "Farnsworth CSCE" in existance, Brain.

Hi! Tell it to the ARRL VEC.


I'll tell it to them all.

There's no "Farnsworth CSCE". Not in the ARRL VEC, the W%YI, VEC,
or any of the others.


can't even give W5YI the proper speling Stevie


Doesn't matter. There's still no "Farnsworth CSCE".

It doesn't exist.


All hail Stevie


For making a point about the truth?

He's the Dick Clark of Amateur Radio. The USA's most immature Extra.

Nope....we'll hold that "honor" for you, Brain.

I'm no Extra.


So right on so many levels.


if you are an example then it hardly much to aspire too


Good. Then I don't have to worry about you drecking up the phone
OR CW subbands anytime soon.

Brain and Markie on the same "team"...A gene pool that still
doesn't come up to a 2 digit number...

Steve and Bruce on the same team.


Bruce who?

If you're refering to N8DOS (SK), why shouldn't we be? He was my
father.


because he is dead and I hope burried (please if you are keeping him
round the house don't tell us)


He was "burried" with something YOU will never have, Markie...

Military Honors.

Steve, K4YZ


an_old_friend July 15th 05 05:39 AM



K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


The FCC has failed so many logic tests already.

So have you.


Agreeing that the FCC is not always logical progress Boyo


"Boyo"..?!?!


an irish expresion

Fixation with kids, Markie?


more implacation of pedophilia stevie



You've been claiming the opposite this week.


Indeed No I have not that is lie on your part I have neither confirmed
nor denied pedophilia, that was neevr the topic

What I have been claiming and what you are proving as fact is that YOU
are impling I am a pedophile


so Another Stevie lie


Like why does a married Veteran with small children lie repeatedly
and prolifically in a public forum...?!?!


Why do you lie so much Stevie I can't undersatnd it, either


But I don't. That's what confuses you.


yes you do

you have lied in the post I am repleing to

You can't understand why someone would tell the truth when lying
and making stuff up is so much "fun".


another lie. never said lying was fun.

you seem to enjoy making up stuff


an example like Saying the Borther Grimm were not linguists


They're not.

They're dead.


they still were can't be a man and admit error

have to bluster and evade and lie


The United States still requires Morse Code testing for access to
HF.

For now. And it doesn't have to make sense or be consistent with other
regulations. That's why it is arbitrary.

It's not "arbitrary".


It sure is


Nope.


sure is

entirely arbitary


That's an "out" that people try to use when they want to avoid
facing reality.


BTW the FCC does not require Morse testing in all cases for HF use.


Of course not. But it does for Amateur use.


currently yes


There's no "Farnsworth CSCE" in existance, Brain.

Hi! Tell it to the ARRL VEC.

I'll tell it to them all.

There's no "Farnsworth CSCE". Not in the ARRL VEC, the W%YI, VEC,
or any of the others.


can't even give W5YI the proper speling Stevie


Doesn't matter. There's still no "Farnsworth CSCE".


sure does show you can't even respect folks that have never to my
knowledge psted here

that you have never meet to my knowledge



It doesn't exist.


All hail Stevie


For making a point about the truth?


for your bluster


He's the Dick Clark of Amateur Radio. The USA's most immature Extra.

Nope....we'll hold that "honor" for you, Brain.

I'm no Extra.

So right on so many levels.


if you are an example then it hardly much to aspire too


Good. Then I don't have to worry about you drecking up the phone
OR CW subbands anytime soon.


well as I undestand it there are no CW subbands except at VHF there are
CW/data subbands

and you may have even heard me on field day


Brain and Markie on the same "team"...A gene pool that still
doesn't come up to a 2 digit number...

Steve and Bruce on the same team.

Bruce who?

If you're refering to N8DOS (SK), why shouldn't we be? He was my
father.


because he is dead and I hope burried (please if you are keeping him
round the house don't tell us)


He was "burried" with something YOU will never have, Markie...


then in saying nothing wrong with teaming up with him you are sick he
is a corpse


Military Honors.


right stevie keep believeing that

Steve, K4YZ



K4YZ July 15th 05 09:11 AM



an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


The FCC has failed so many logic tests already.

So have you.

Agreeing that the FCC is not always logical progress Boyo


"Boyo"..?!?!


an irish expresion


Uh huh...

Fixation with kids, Markie?


more implacation of pedophilia stevie


Nope.

You've been claiming the opposite this week.


Indeed No I have not that is lie on your part I have neither confirmed
nor denied pedophilia, that was neevr the topic


No...you just "confirm" being a liar and sexual deviant.

What I have been claiming and what you are proving as fact is that YOU
are impling I am a pedophile


Nope.

You're still having trouble with the English, Markie.

I said you're dangerous (and rightly so) to leave kids around.

so Another Stevie lie


Nope.

Like why does a married Veteran with small children lie repeatedly
and prolifically in a public forum...?!?!

Why do you lie so much Stevie I can't undersatnd it, either


But I don't. That's what confuses you.


yes you do

you have lied in the post I am repleing to


No, I've not.

You can't understand why someone would tell the truth when lying
and making stuff up is so much "fun".


another lie. never said lying was fun.


Sure you have.

you seem to enjoy making up stuff


I couldn't make up the silliness you do, Markie.

It comes from a very deep and troubled mind.

an example like Saying the Borther Grimm were not linguists


They're not.

They're dead.


they still were can't be a man and admit error


What error?

They're not dead?

have to bluster and evade and lie


They're not dead?

The United States still requires Morse Code testing for access to
HF.

For now. And it doesn't have to make sense or be consistent with other
regulations. That's why it is arbitrary.

It's not "arbitrary".

It sure is


Nope.


sure is

entirely arbitary


Only to you and Lennie.

Lennie won't do it because it would somehow "minimize" him in his
own eyes...taking a test that "mere mortals" all take.

You won't do it because you're lazy and unmotivated.

That's an "out" that people try to use when they want to avoid
facing reality.

BTW the FCC does not require Morse testing in all cases for HF use.


Of course not. But it does for Amateur use.


currently yes


Well well...speaking of admitting an error...Finally got tired of
getting spanked, eh?

There's no "Farnsworth CSCE" in existance, Brain.

Hi! Tell it to the ARRL VEC.

I'll tell it to them all.

There's no "Farnsworth CSCE". Not in the ARRL VEC, the W%YI, VEC,
or any of the others.

can't even give W5YI the proper speling Stevie


Doesn't matter. There's still no "Farnsworth CSCE".


sure does show you can't even respect folks that have never to my
knowledge psted here

that you have never meet to my knowledge


Huh? Who are you talking about?

W5YI?

Read the context, Markie...It's about code testing. "W5YI" is a
VEC that administers code tests.

Brain claims there's a "Farnsworth" code test.

I've dared him to show evidence of one, but that's heaped up on
his pile of "things I won't do because it will prove me wrong" stack.

It doesn't exist.

All hail Stevie


For making a point about the truth?


for your bluster


The truth is bluster?

Good. Then I don't have to worry about you drecking up the phone
OR CW subbands anytime soon.


well as I undestand it there are no CW subbands except at VHF there are
CW/data subbands


And I won't ahve to worry about you on any of THOSE, eitehr.

and you may have even heard me on field day


I doubt it.

Brain and Markie on the same "team"...A gene pool that still
doesn't come up to a 2 digit number...

Steve and Bruce on the same team.

Bruce who?

If you're refering to N8DOS (SK), why shouldn't we be? He was my
father.

because he is dead and I hope burried (please if you are keeping him
round the house don't tell us)


He was "burried" with something YOU will never have, Markie...


then in saying nothing wrong with teaming up with him you are sick he
is a corpse


Now THAT is sick, Mark...Even for you.

More evidence of why it's unsafe to leave kids around you.

Military Honors.


right stevie keep believeing that.


I do believe it.

And so do you......

Steve, K4YZ


an_old_friend July 15th 05 05:26 PM



K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

The FCC has failed so many logic tests already.

So have you.

Agreeing that the FCC is not always logical progress Boyo

"Boyo"..?!?!


an irish expresion


Uh huh...


yes


Fixation with kids, Markie?


more implacation of pedophilia stevie


Nope.


yes it is


You've been claiming the opposite this week.


Indeed No I have not that is lie on your part I have neither confirmed
nor denied pedophilia, that was neevr the topic


No...you just "confirm" being a liar and sexual deviant.


nope I do not confirm being a sexual deviant


What I have been claiming and what you are proving as fact is that YOU
are impling I am a pedophile


Nope.


yes


You're still having trouble with the English, Markie.


nope you are


I said you're dangerous (and rightly so) to leave kids around.


prove it

your claim is what ever else Libel


so Another Stevie lie


Nope.


can't tell after you editing


Like why does a married Veteran with small children lie repeatedly
and prolifically in a public forum...?!?!

Why do you lie so much Stevie I can't undersatnd it, either

But I don't. That's what confuses you.


yes you do

you have lied in the post I am repleing to


No, I've not.


yes you have


You can't understand why someone would tell the truth when lying
and making stuff up is so much "fun".


another lie. never said lying was fun.


Sure you have.


where?


you seem to enjoy making up stuff


I couldn't make up the silliness you do, Markie.


you make your silliness and attribute it to me which is another matter


It comes from a very deep and troubled mind.


not bad I deep mind I have that, and yes It is troubled by many things
esp lately by the rising hate in society of which you are a great
example of


an example like Saying the Borther Grimm were not linguists

They're not.

They're dead.


they still were can't be a man and admit error


What error?


saying they weren't lingugists


They're not dead?


already answered

apoligize for slight them

be a man

if you can


have to bluster and evade and lie


They're not dead?


more bluster


The United States still requires Morse Code testing for access to
HF.

For now. And it doesn't have to make sense or be consistent with other
regulations. That's why it is arbitrary.

It's not "arbitrary".

It sure is

Nope.


sure is

entirely arbitary


Only to you and Lennie.


anyone else with a brain, which let you out

all the rules are arbitary Why 50mhz for 6 m instead of 49mhz no logic
there just arbitary choices made


Lennie won't do it because it would somehow "minimize" him in his
own eyes...taking a test that "mere mortals" all take.


all take

ah I see you don't onsider me a mere mortal I gues that is sort of
compliment certainly nicer than anything you normaly say


You won't do it because you're lazy and unmotivated.


did not last


That's an "out" that people try to use when they want to avoid
facing reality.

BTW the FCC does not require Morse testing in all cases for HF use.

Of course not. But it does for Amateur use.


currently yes


Well well...speaking of admitting an error...Finally got tired of
getting spanked, eh?


gee havve been spanked in weeks but why do you complain of alternitve
sexauly and then invoke it

but I am not addmitting error at all


There's no "Farnsworth CSCE" in existance, Brain.

Hi! Tell it to the ARRL VEC.

I'll tell it to them all.

There's no "Farnsworth CSCE". Not in the ARRL VEC, the W%YI, VEC,
or any of the others.

can't even give W5YI the proper speling Stevie

Doesn't matter. There's still no "Farnsworth CSCE".


sure does show you can't even respect folks that have never to my
knowledge psted here

that you have never meet to my knowledge


Huh? Who are you talking about?


your refusal to show respect for W5YI a amn as far I know you have
never met

he wasn't her you mangled his call and says it does not atter that you
mangled his call, That was rude

you should apologize


W5YI?

Read the context, Markie...It's about code testing. "W5YI" is a
VEC that administers code tests.


so that means you don't treat him and his call with respect


Brain claims there's a "Farnsworth" code test.


as I understand the matter so does the ARRL but what has that got to do
with your disrepect for w5yi


I've dared him to show evidence of one, but that's heaped up on
his pile of "things I won't do because it will prove me wrong" stack.


no he has put it on his stack of "not carring stevie frieght" I am
guessing of course and not speaking for Brain


It doesn't exist.

All hail Stevie

For making a point about the truth?


for your bluster


The truth is bluster?


what truth

you don't post truth mainly lie inuendo evasion and distortions


Good. Then I don't have to worry about you drecking up the phone
OR CW subbands anytime soon.


well as I undestand it there are no CW subbands except at VHF there are
CW/data subbands


And I won't ahve to worry about you on any of THOSE, eitehr.


but you still can't state without correction by me the facts about HF
rules


and you may have even heard me on field day


I doubt it.


I would not know after all I don't know if you even do feild day

but you might. you may have even worked me without knowing it.


Brain and Markie on the same "team"...A gene pool that still
doesn't come up to a 2 digit number...

Steve and Bruce on the same team.

Bruce who?

If you're refering to N8DOS (SK), why shouldn't we be? He was my
father.

because he is dead and I hope burried (please if you are keeping him
round the house don't tell us)

He was "burried" with something YOU will never have, Markie...


then in saying nothing wrong with teaming up with him you are sick he
is a corpse


Now THAT is sick, Mark...Even for you.


you said "If you're refering to N8DOS (SK), why shouldn't we be? He
was my
father" it was all right for you to team up with a corpse, you are
the sicko


More evidence of why it's unsafe to leave kids around you.


maybe I should call child welfare about your daughter


Military Honors.


right stevie keep believeing that.


I do believe it.


I know


And so do you......


no I don't


Steve, K4YZ



K4YZ July 16th 05 03:23 PM



an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

The FCC has failed so many logic tests already.

So have you.

Agreeing that the FCC is not always logical progress Boyo

"Boyo"..?!?!

an irish expresion


Uh huh...


yes


OK, Wusso...

That's an American expression for a spineless wimp.

You've been claiming the opposite this week.

Indeed No I have not that is lie on your part I have neither confirmed
nor denied pedophilia, that was neevr the topic


No...you just "confirm" being a liar and sexual deviant.


nope I do not confirm being a sexual deviant


Sure you have. You've claimed that you sleep with men. You are
yourself male.

A deviation of the norm. Deviant.

It comes from a very deep and troubled mind.


not bad I deep mind I have that...(SNIP)


Your mind's "deep", alright...an empty shaft.

and yes It is troubled by many things
esp lately by the rising hate in society of which you are a great
example of


Nope. I just don't tolerate liars. You're a liar.

apoligize for slight them


When one of the "Brothers Grimm" show up at my door and request an
apology, I'll tell them their stories suck and their "lingusitics" were
lame.

Lennie won't do it because it would somehow "minimize" him in his
own eyes...taking a test that "mere mortals" all take.


all take

ah I see you don't onsider me a mere mortal I gues that is sort of
compliment certainly nicer than anything you normaly say


Did you take an Amateur Radio exam, Markie?

Then you ARE one of the mortals.

Well well...speaking of admitting an error...Finally got tired of
getting spanked, eh?


gee havve been spanked in weeks but why do you complain of alternitve
sexauly and then invoke it


I don't "invoke it" in sexual innuendo, Markie.

Funny you did after insisting that you're not a sexual deviant.

Huh? Who are you talking about?


your refusal to show respect for W5YI a amn as far I know you have
never met

he wasn't her you mangled his call and says it does not atter that you
mangled his call, That was rude

you should apologize


For dragging my finger for a split second longer on the shift
key...?!?!

W5YI?

Read the context, Markie...It's about code testing. "W5YI" is a
VEC that administers code tests.


so that means you don't treat him and his call with respect


Very little.

Which VEC has been cited for more than 80% of all FCC-mandated
retests of exams administered under their cogniznece?

Brain claims there's a "Farnsworth" code test.


as I understand the matter so does the ARRL but what has that got to do
with your disrepect for w5yi


W5YI is a snake oil salesman.

See the above.

well as I undestand it there are no CW subbands except at VHF there are
CW/data subbands


And I won't have to worry about you on any of THOSE, either.


but you still can't state without correction by me the facts about HF
rules


Sure I can.

And have.

You still can't deal with your ineptness and incompetence with
Part 97.

and you may have even heard me on field day


I doubt it.


I would not know after all I don't know if you even do feild day

but you might. you may have even worked me without knowing it.


I doubt it.

How proficient are you at CW?

More evidence of why it's unsafe to leave kids around you.


maybe I should call child welfare about your daughter


Maybe you should.

Do you know the consequences for filing a false report?

You'll find out.

Military Honors.

right stevie keep believeing that.


I do believe it.


I know


And so do you......


no I don't


Then you're lying to yourself, too.

Now you've REALLY lied to EVERYone...

Steve, K4YZ


K4YZ July 18th 05 05:21 PM



an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

The FCC has failed so many logic tests already.

So have you.

Agreeing that the FCC is not always logical progress Boyo

"Boyo"..?!?!

an irish expresion


Uh huh...


yes


Uh huh....

Fixation with kids, Markie?

more implacation of pedophilia stevie


Nope.


yes it is


You're the one talking about "boyo".

Sounds like a fixation to me.

You've been claiming the opposite this week.

Indeed No I have not that is lie on your part I have neither confirmed
nor denied pedophilia, that was neevr the topic


No...you just "confirm" being a liar and sexual deviant.


nope I do not confirm being a sexual deviant


Sure you do. You've already stated it clearly.

You're male and have sex with men.

That's all it took.

I said you're dangerous (and rightly so) to leave kids around.


prove it

your claim is what ever else Libel


No it's not.

Go tell your local DHS Agent about your sexual preferences and see
what s/he has to say about your fitness to care for children
unsupervised...

so Another Stevie lie


Nope.


can't tell after you editing


Sure you can.

I'm just trying to keep these things from having 30 .
If you get TOO confused, Markie, back up the thread.

You can't understand why someone would tell the truth when lying
and making stuff up is so much "fun".

another lie. never said lying was fun.


Sure you have.


where?


Over and over again, Markie.

And why would you do something if it wasn't fun?

you seem to enjoy making up stuff


I couldn't make up the silliness you do, Markie.


you make your silliness and attribute it to me which is another matter


Nope.

Everything I cite is quoted from YOU.

Take a bow.

It comes from a very deep and troubled mind.


not bad I deep mind I have that, and yes It is troubled by many things
esp lately by the rising hate in society of which you are a great
example of


Nope.

Big snip of usual Markie Dreck....

More evidence of why it's unsafe to leave kids around you.


maybe I should call child welfare about your daughter


You made that statement two days ago and I asked you if you knew
what the penalties were for filing false accusations with DHS...And
I'll extend that to CPS, or Child Protective Services.

Go right ahead...Make my Millenium!

Steve, K4YZ


an_old_friend July 18th 05 06:19 PM



K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

The FCC has failed so many logic tests already.

So have you.

Agreeing that the FCC is not always logical progress Boyo

"Boyo"..?!?!


break
an irish expresion

Uh huh...


yes


Uh huh....


I'll get back this


Fixation with kids, Markie?

more implacation of pedophilia stevie

Nope.


yes it is


You're the one talking about "boyo".


I refer you above


Sounds like a fixation to me.


maybe it does to you


You've been claiming the opposite this week.

Indeed No I have not that is lie on your part I have neither confirmed
nor denied pedophilia, that was neevr the topic

No...you just "confirm" being a liar and sexual deviant.


nope I do not confirm being a sexual deviant


Sure you do. You've already stated it clearly.


no I have not more lies on your part


You're male and have sex with men.


not according to the sandard reference in the feild of mental health

That's all it took.


nope


I said you're dangerous (and rightly so) to leave kids around.


prove it

your claim is what ever else Libel


No it's not.


it sure is Libel


Go tell your local DHS Agent about your sexual preferences and see
what s/he has to say about your fitness to care for children
unsupervised...


i am sure you can find bigots in socail services, but no one believing
in the standards of the field would


so Another Stevie lie

Nope.


can't tell after you editing


Sure you can.


No i can't


I'm just trying to keep these things from having 30 .
If you get TOO confused, Markie, back up the thread.


with volume of **** you spew


You can't understand why someone would tell the truth when lying
and making stuff up is so much "fun".

another lie. never said lying was fun.

Sure you have.


where?


Over and over again, Markie.


never


And why would you do something if it wasn't fun?


because it suited my prupose that being improving the safety of my
family form freaks like you and those even worse than you.

I do regret that the world is in a state that I find it neccasary to
lie


you seem to enjoy making up stuff

I couldn't make up the silliness you do, Markie.


you make your silliness and attribute it to me which is another matter


Nope.


yep


Everything I cite is quoted from YOU.


nope


Take a bow.


no it is your bow


It comes from a very deep and troubled mind.


not bad I deep mind I have that, and yes It is troubled by many things
esp lately by the rising hate in society of which you are a great
example of


Nope.


yes it is


Big snip of usual Markie Dreck....


big cut into context


More evidence of why it's unsafe to leave kids around you.


maybe I should call child welfare about your daughter


You made that statement two days ago and I asked you if you knew
what the penalties were for filing false accusations with DHS...And
I'll extend that to CPS, or Child Protective Services.


did not see it

but you are discusing what are the penalities for making false
statements


Go right ahead...Make my Millenium!


you certainly make me wonder if it is safe to leave her in your care

Steve, K4YZ




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