another point of Info
 

In reading the newsgroup lately I get the impression that the the
relitvely new 60 band does NOT premit Morse Encoded CW in at least
some region of the band.

Is my impression corect.

"an_old_friend" wrote

In reading the newsgroup lately I get the impression that the the
relitvely new 60 band does NOT premit Morse Encoded CW in at least
some region of the band.

Is my impression corect.


There is no 60M "band". US amateurs are allocated 5 discreet 2K8J3E channels
centered on 5332 kHz, 5348 kHz, 5368 kHz, 5373 kHz and 5405 kHz.

73, de Hans, K0HB

K=D8HB wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote

In reading the newsgroup lately I get the impression that the the
relitvely new 60 band does NOT premit Morse Encoded CW in at least
some region of the band.

Is my impression corect.


There is no 60M "band". US amateurs are allocated 5 discreet 2K8J3E chan=
nels

Auf Anglish Bitte?

I'd guess for your answer that Morse encoded Cw isn't allowed but you I
guess answering a question si too much for you
centered on 5332 kHz, 5348 kHz, 5368 kHz, 5373 kHz and 5405 kHz.
=20
73, de Hans, K0HB

"KØHB" wrote in message
link.net...

"an_old_friend" wrote

In reading the newsgroup lately I get the impression that the the
relitvely new 60 band does NOT premit Morse Encoded CW in at least
some region of the band.

Is my impression corect.


There is no 60M "band". US amateurs are allocated 5 discreet 2K8J3E
channels centered on 5332 kHz, 5348 kHz, 5368 kHz, 5373 kHz and 5405 kHz.

73, de Hans, K0HB




There are several long haul truckers in the range of 5425 to 5560 kHz.

"an_old_friend" wrote

I'd guess for your answer that Morse encoded Cw isn't
allowed but you I guess answering a question si too much
for you

Hey Dump Huck, I did answer your question, and I did so quite precisely. As a
licensed amateur, what part of "2K8J3E" don't you understand?

73, de Hans, K0HB

Nice try.

Hans has forgotten more than you will ever know :)))

Please ZBM-2


With all due regards,
Jim AA2QA



"an_old_friend" wrote in message
oups.com...


KØHB wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote

In reading the newsgroup lately I get the impression that the the
relitvely new 60 band does NOT premit Morse Encoded CW in at least
some region of the band.

Is my impression corect.


There is no 60M "band". US amateurs are allocated 5 discreet 2K8J3E
channels

Auf Anglish Bitte?

I'd guess for your answer that Morse encoded Cw isn't allowed but you I
guess answering a question si too much for you
centered on 5332 kHz, 5348 kHz, 5368 kHz, 5373 kHz and 5405 kHz.

73, de Hans, K0HB

Nice try :)))


ZBM-2
Jim AA2QA



"theposter" wrote in message
news:wuhylm6zjugtzly.010720052042@kirk...
There are several long haul truckers in the range of 5425 to 5560
kHz.


great, now the hams are stealing the truckers frequencies! What is
this world coming to?

tp

"an_old_friend" wrote in message
ups.com...
In reading the newsgroup lately I get the impression that the the
relitvely new 60 band does NOT premit Morse Encoded CW in at least
some region of the band.

Is my impression corect.


The 60 meter band is USB voice only. NO form of digital or other non-voice
is allowed.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Dee:

No truckers either? stupid-grin

John

"Dee Flint" wrote in message
...

"an_old_friend" wrote in message
ups.com...
In reading the newsgroup lately I get the impression that the the
relitvely new 60 band does NOT premit Morse Encoded CW in at least
some region of the band.

Is my impression corect.


The 60 meter band is USB voice only. NO form of digital or other
non-voice is allowed.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

K=D8HB wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote

I'd guess for your answer that Morse encoded Cw isn't
allowed but you I guess answering a question si too much
for you

Hey Dump Huck, I did answer your question, and I did so quite precisely. =
As a
licensed amateur, what part of "2K8J3E" don't you understand?

All of it. tht sort of usage is not in vogue, nor is it in english.

73, de Hans, K0HB

73's on an couple of snide posts is about what you'd expect

"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...
Nice try.

Hans has forgotten more than you will ever know :)))

Please ZBM-2


With all due regards,
Jim AA2QA



How long have you been a K0HB sycophant?

Dee Flint wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
ups.com...
In reading the newsgroup lately I get the impression that the the
relitvely new 60 band does NOT premit Morse Encoded CW in at least
some region of the band.

Is my impression corect.


The 60 meter band is USB voice only. NO form of digital or other non-voice
is allowed.

Thanks for the info

interesting that a band rquiring code testing forbids code use

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

an_old_friend wrote:
K=D8HB wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote

In reading the newsgroup lately I get the impression that the the
relitvely new 60 band does NOT premit Morse Encoded CW in at least
some region of the band.

Is my impression corect.


There is no 60M "band". US amateurs are allocated 5 discreet 2K8J3E ch=
annels

Auf Anglish Bitte?

Why?

You can't do English any better than you could Serbo-Croatian.

He answered your question exactly.

I'd guess for your answer that Morse encoded Cw isn't allowed but you I
guess answering a question si too much for you

He did answer your question. Precisely.

Perhaps your "higher standards" you refered to in another thread
aren't so high, eh?...

centered on 5332 kHz, 5348 kHz, 5368 kHz, 5373 kHz and 5405 kHz.

Geeze, Markie...He gave you the specific mode AND frequencies
authorized.

And then you don't even have the good courtesy to thank him.

Good thing you didn't ask about power limitations...he would've
had to use a REAL technical term...ERP...That would ahve REALLY
confused you!

Sheesh!

Steve, K4YZ

an_old_friend wrote:
Dee Flint wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
ups.com...
In reading the newsgroup lately I get the impression that the the
relitvely new 60 band does NOT premit Morse Encoded CW in at least
some region of the band.

Is my impression corect.


The 60 meter band is USB voice only. NO form of digital or other non-voice
is allowed.

Thanks for the info

interesting that a band rquiring code testing forbids code use

That "band" is shared with non-Amateur users both federal and
civil.

Also, (is this guy REALLY this stupid...?!?!) the "60 meter band"
DOES fall below 30Mhz, Markie.

FYI...Since you've been in a time warp (and obviously enjoy making
a fool out of yourself rather than use a search engine to do some
research), the United States STILL requires that an Amateur licensee to
have passed Element 1 to operate below 30Mhz.

Read the regs and be enlightened...Or is reading "not in
vogue"...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K=D8HB wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote

In reading the newsgroup lately I get the impression that the the
relitvely new 60 band does NOT premit Morse Encoded CW in at least
some region of the band.

Is my impression corect.


There is no 60M "band". US amateurs are allocated 5 discreet 2K8J3E =
channels

Auf Anglish Bitte?

Why?

so it can be understood

You can't do English any better than you could Serbo-Croatian.

there is a lie, I Do English much better


He answered your question exactly.

no he did not answer it the question was about CW


I'd guess for your answer that Morse encoded Cw isn't allowed but you I
guess answering a question si too much for you

He did answer your question. Precisely.

no he did not answer it the question was about CW


Perhaps your "higher standards" you refered to in another thread
aren't so high, eh?...

any standard is higher than standard of proof for yourself, even your
standard of proof for others


centered on 5332 kHz, 5348 kHz, 5368 kHz, 5373 kHz and 5405 kHz.

Geeze, Markie...He gave you the specific mode AND frequencies
authorized.

in gibberish



And then you don't even have the good courtesy to thank him.

I rarely thank people when they are being discourtesous


Good thing you didn't ask about power limitations...he would've
had to use a REAL technical term...ERP...That would ahve REALLY
confused you!

you still can't seem to spell have today Stevie what is it?

the reason I did not ask is of course I did not need to know, I also
assumed it was 1.5 KW like the rest of the ARS, but then since i am not
using the freqs it doesn't matter

=20
Sheesh!
=20
Steve, K4YZ

"an_old_friend" wrote

no he did not answer it the question was about CW

I told you exactly what emission (mode) was allowed, a direct quote from the FCC
rules. How much more precise could I have been?

I also assumed it was 1.5 KW like the rest of the ARS

Actually, it is 50W ERP.

And not all the "rest of the ARS" frequencies are allowed 1.5KW.

As a study guide, please fill in the maximum amount of power allowed by any
licensee on each of the following amateur frequencies:

3.680 MHz ___________
7.135 MHz ___________
10.125 MHz ___________
21.175 MHz ___________
219.125 MHz ___________

73, de Hans, K0HB








, but then since i am not
using the freqs it doesn't matter


Sheesh!

Steve, K4YZ

K=D8HB wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote

no he did not answer it the question was about CW

I told you exactly what emission (mode) was allowed, a direct quote from =
the FCC
rules. How much more precise could I have been?

You could have answered the question, was or was not CW allowed that is
all that was required


I also assumed it was 1.5 KW like the rest of the ARS

Perhaps if I had added "at the time"

Actually, it is 50W ERP.

so I never realy cared, still don't


And not all the "rest of the ARS" frequencies are allowed 1.5KW.

basicaly they are they all are unless restricted by some other part of
the rules


As a study guide, please fill in the maximum amount of power allowed by a=
ny
licensee on each of the following amateur frequencies:

why? None of those freqs are going to be use be me anyime real soon
only one is even usagable in theory by me

3.680 MHz ___________
7.135 MHz ___________
10.125 MHz ___________
21.175 MHz ___________
219.125 MHz ___________

73, de Hans, K0HB








, but then since i am not
using the freqs it doesn't matter
=20

Sheesh!

Steve, K4YZ

"an_old_friend" wrote in message
roups.com...


K4YZ wrote:

Good thing you didn't ask about power limitations...he would've
had to use a REAL technical term...ERP...That would ahve REALLY
confused you!

you still can't seem to spell have today Stevie what is it?

the reason I did not ask is of course I did not need to know, I also
assumed it was 1.5 KW like the rest of the ARS, but then since i am not
using the freqs it doesn't matter

But the rest of the ARS is not 1.5kw. The 30m band is limited to 200 wats
max. All operators are limited to the old novice power output in the old
novice portions of 15m, 40m, and 80m.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Dee Flint wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
roups.com...


K4YZ wrote:

Good thing you didn't ask about power limitations...he would've
had to use a REAL technical term...ERP...That would ahve REALLY
confused you!

you still can't seem to spell have today Stevie what is it?

the reason I did not ask is of course I did not need to know, I also
assumed it was 1.5 KW like the rest of the ARS, but then since i am not
using the freqs it doesn't matter

But the rest of the ARS is not 1.5kw. The 30m band is limited to 200 wats
max. All operators are limited to the old novice power output in the old
novice portions of 15m, 40m, and 80m.

Your point? power was never the issue

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
Dee Flint wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

In reading the newsgroup lately I get the impression that the the
relitvely new 60 band does NOT premit Morse Encoded CW in at least
some region of the band.

Is my impression corect.

The 60 meter band is USB voice only. NO form of digital or other non-voice
is allowed.

Thanks for the info

interesting that a band rquiring code testing forbids code use

That "band" is shared with non-Amateur users both federal and
civil.

Don't they know the code? I thought the original reason to learn Morse
Code was because other users could understand and communicate i.e., get
off my frequency, with amateurs.

Also, (is this guy REALLY this stupid...?!?!) the "60 meter band"
DOES fall below 30Mhz, Markie.

Actually, you are. He is the one who stated, "interesting that a band
rquiring code testing forbids code use." Morse Code testing is for
"below 30MHz."

FYI...Since you've been in a time warp (and obviously enjoy making
a fool out of yourself rather than use a search engine to do some
research),

You're the one who made the mistake then attacked Mark over it. Makes
you the idiot.

the United States STILL requires that an Amateur licensee to
have passed Element 1 to operate below 30Mhz.

Must be why he said, "interesting that a band rquiring code testing
forbids code use." Too bad you missed it.

Read the regs and be enlightened...Or is reading "not in
vogue"...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

Read the post and be enlightened, instead of going off on yet another
Robeson rant.

Hmm Brain responding to a post i haven't seen yet

b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
Dee Flint wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

In reading the newsgroup lately I get the impression that the the
relitvely new 60 band does NOT premit Morse Encoded CW in at least
some region of the band.

Is my impression corect.

The 60 meter band is USB voice only. NO form of digital or other non-voice
is allowed.

Thanks for the info

interesting that a band rquiring code testing forbids code use

That "band" is shared with non-Amateur users both federal and
civil.

Yes I realize that so?


Don't they know the code? I thought the original reason to learn Morse
Code was because other users could understand and communicate i.e., get
off my frequency, with amateurs.

Also, (is this guy REALLY this stupid...?!?!) the "60 meter band"
DOES fall below 30Mhz, Markie.

Actually, you are. He is the one who stated, "interesting that a band
rquiring code testing forbids code use." Morse Code testing is for
"below 30MHz."

well said

The FCC could of course have allowed it to techs and frankly they
should have

FYI...Since you've been in a time warp (and obviously enjoy making
a fool out of yourself rather than use a search engine to do some
research),

You're the one who made the mistake then attacked Mark over it. Makes
you the idiot.

the United States STILL requires that an Amateur licensee to
have passed Element 1 to operate below 30Mhz.

No it does not it requires them to be tested on bands assigned to the
general and extra bands


Must be why he said, "interesting that a band rquiring code testing
forbids code use." Too bad you missed it.

Read the regs and be enlightened...Or is reading "not in
vogue"...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

Read the post and be enlightened, instead of going off on yet another
Robeson rant.

"an_old_friend" wrote in message
oups.com...


Dee Flint wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
roups.com...


K4YZ wrote:

Good thing you didn't ask about power limitations...he would've
had to use a REAL technical term...ERP...That would ahve REALLY
confused you!

you still can't seem to spell have today Stevie what is it?

the reason I did not ask is of course I did not need to know, I also
assumed it was 1.5 KW like the rest of the ARS, but then since i am not
using the freqs it doesn't matter

But the rest of the ARS is not 1.5kw. The 30m band is limited to 200
wats
max. All operators are limited to the old novice power output in the
old
novice portions of 15m, 40m, and 80m.

Your point? power was never the issue

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


I believe that the point was being made that you appear virtually clueless
about legal operations permitted in the amateur bands. What started out as
a whine about CW rapidly changed when it became apparent that you also seem
ignorant of power limitations in varous other amateur bands.

For what it is worth, there are other limitations that may come into play if
you are a licensed amateur in close proximity to a radio telescope (the
Aricibo site in Puerto Rico is but one where other limitations may apply).


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

Jim Hampton wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
oups.com...


Dee Flint wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
roups.com...


K4YZ wrote:

Good thing you didn't ask about power limitations...he would've
had to use a REAL technical term...ERP...That would ahve REALLY
confused you!

you still can't seem to spell have today Stevie what is it?

the reason I did not ask is of course I did not need to know, I also
assumed it was 1.5 KW like the rest of the ARS, but then since i am not
using the freqs it doesn't matter

But the rest of the ARS is not 1.5kw. The 30m band is limited to 200
wats
max. All operators are limited to the old novice power output in the
old
novice portions of 15m, 40m, and 80m.

Your point? power was never the issue

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



Break

I believe that the point was being made that you appear virtually clueless
about legal operations permitted in the amateur bands. What started out as
a whine about CW rapidly changed when it became apparent that you also seem
ignorant of power limitations in varous other amateur bands.

Why should I care at this point what limtis apply at HF

Ignorant perhaps caring what they are on hf absolutely

What happened is a smart ass decide to show off and not bother
answering the real question was cw permited.



For what it is worth, there are other limitations that may come into play if
you are a licensed amateur in close proximity to a radio telescope (the
Aricibo site in Puerto Rico is but one where other limitations may apply).

yea I know that too your point

I see you are just trying to show you know better. as I said I don't
realy care about power limits at HF at this time,

Why should I care



73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

I did answer your question, and I did so quite precisely. As a
licensed amateur, what part of "2K8J3E" don't you understand?

It's an FCC specification that essentially says "USB carrying
voice of frequencies 300 to 3KHz". Also the FCC specifies
a SSB channel frequency by the frequency in the center of
the transmitted RF spectra. Audio at 300Hz corresponds
to frequency "X-(2700/2)", 3KHz to "X+(2700/2)" where "X"
is the center of the channel. "X" would be 1650Hz higher than
the traditional ham radio method of specifying a USB frequency
(hams specify the frequency of the suppressed carrier). Aside
from 60M, the FCC doesn't specify how we are to specify our
frequencies; they just say "Here's your permitted bands for
SSB, keep all of your RF inside them". 60M is special in
that the FCC wanted hams to blend seamlessly with other existing
users (meaning that those other users could easily listen and talk
(say in emergencies) to us on their existing channelized equipment.
And we got these five specific channels because the other users
don't use them that much compared to other channels.

an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K=D8HB wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote

In reading the newsgroup lately I get the impression that the the
relitvely new 60 band does NOT premit Morse Encoded CW in at lea=
st
some region of the band.

Is my impression corect.


There is no 60M "band". US amateurs are allocated 5 discreet 2K8J3=
E channels

Auf Anglish Bitte?

Why?

so it can be understood

I understood him fine the first time...OF course I KNOW a bit
about Amateur rules and regulations, the focus of this forum byt the
way, so it was a "no brainer".

You can't do English any better than you could Serbo-Croatian.

there is a lie, I Do English much better

No. You don't.

He answered your question exactly.

no he did not answer it the question was about CW

He absolutely answered your question. Precisely. Accurately.
Civilly.

I'd guess for your answer that Morse encoded Cw isn't allowed but you=
I
guess answering a question si too much for you

He did answer your question. Precisely.

no he did not answer it the question was about CW

He absolutely answered your question. Precisely. Accurately.
Civilly.

Perhaps your "higher standards" you refered to in another thread
aren't so high, eh?...

any standard is higher than standard of proof for yourself, even your
standard of proof for others

Well...You spelled all of the words correctly....Now if they were
just organized into a coherent sentence...

centered on 5332 kHz, 5348 kHz, 5368 kHz, 5373 kHz and 5405 kHz.

Geeze, Markie...He gave you the specific mode AND frequencies
authorized.

in gibberish

"Gibberish" to an idiot, perhaps.

Seems it's perfectly clear in Part 97.

So is this going to be another "rights" issue for you? Is the FCC
going to have to write a "Radio Rules for Dummies" book just for idiots
like you?

And then you don't even have the good courtesy to thank him.

I rarely thank people when they are being discourtesous

Then why didn't you thank Hans for giving you the information you
requested?

He gave you the EXACT frequencies and modes authorized on 60
meters and did so without a single abrasive, discourtesous adjective or
suggestion.

Good thing you didn't ask about power limitations...he would've
had to use a REAL technical term...ERP...That would ahve REALLY
confused you!

you still can't seem to spell have today Stevie what is it?

the reason I did not ask is of course I did not need to know...(SNIP)

So you just embarked on this mission to provide yet another
opportunity for us to make fun of you? Was it GOOD for you...?!?!

(UNSNIP)...I also
assumed it was 1.5 KW like the rest of the ARS, but then since i am not
using the freqs it doesn't matter

(1) If you're not "using the freqs", why the inquiry in the first
place, and

(2) There you go assuming again.

Look at all the embarrassment you could have saved yourself if you
had just put "Part 97" into the search engine and read it for yourself.

And if you had problems with the emission designators, well,
that's on line and public information too.

Just like your address is.

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K=D8HB wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote

In reading the newsgroup lately I get the impression that the t=
he
relitvely new 60 band does NOT premit Morse Encoded CW in at l=
east
some region of the band.

Is my impression corect.


There is no 60M "band". US amateurs are allocated 5 discreet 2K8=
J3E channels

Auf Anglish Bitte?

Why?

so it can be understood

I understood him fine the first time...OF course I KNOW a bit
about Amateur rules and regulations, the focus of this forum byt the
way, so it was a "no brainer".

You can't do English any better than you could Serbo-Croatian.

there is a lie, I Do English much better

No. You don't.

Bull**** another Stevie boy lie. I know nothing of SerboCroatian , I
know something of english therefore I know English much better


He answered your question exactly.

no he did not answer it the question was about CW

He absolutely answered your question. Precisely. Accurately.
Civilly.

no he answered it vaguely incompletely and arrogantly


I'd guess for your answer that Morse encoded Cw isn't allowed but y=
ou I
guess answering a question si too much for you

He did answer your question. Precisely.

no he did not answer it the question was about CW

He absolutely answered your question. Precisely. Accurately.
Civilly.

no he answered it vaguely incompletely and arrogantly

you realy like cuting and pasting I can do it to Stevie boy


Perhaps your "higher standards" you refered to in another thread
aren't so high, eh?...

any standard is higher than standard of proof for yourself, even your
standard of proof for others

Well...You spelled all of the words correctly....Now if they were
just organized into a coherent sentence...

it is perfectly coherent and in exactly proper for spoken english,
which the from i use online as I have said before, again and again


And of course it is true Any standard of proof is higher than yours for
yourself


centered on 5332 kHz, 5348 kHz, 5368 kHz, 5373 kHz and 5405 kHz.

Geeze, Markie...He gave you the specific mode AND frequencies
authorized.

in gibberish

"Gibberish" to an idiot, perhaps.

I suspectwith some effort i could PHDs to whom it be gibberish


Seems it's perfectly clear in Part 97.

So is this going to be another "rights" issue for you? Is the FCC
going to have to write a "Radio Rules for Dummies" book just for idiots
like you?

GIGO

Must you rant and rave so much


And then you don't even have the good courtesy to thank him.

I rarely thank people when they are being discourtesous

Then why didn't you thank Hans for giving you the information you
requested?

Because he didn't


He gave you the EXACT frequencies and modes authorized on 60
meters and did so without a single abrasive, discourtesous adjective or
suggestion.

he did not answer the question he rudely choose to answer a different
question

No one asked for freqs no asked about any mode beside CW


Good thing you didn't ask about power limitations...he would've
had to use a REAL technical term...ERP...That would ahve REALLY
confused you!

you still can't seem to spell have today Stevie what is it?

the reason I did not ask is of course I did not need to know...(SNIP)

So you just embarked on this mission to provide yet another
opportunity for us to make fun of you? Was it GOOD for you...?!?!

I did not and do not need to know what power levels are ok on 60 M I am
not allowed to transmit there

I don't ask for unneeded data


(UNSNIP)...I also
assumed it was 1.5 KW like the rest of the ARS, but then since i am not
using the freqs it doesn't matter

(1) If you're not "using the freqs", why the inquiry in the first
place, and

To determine if I was correctly following folks when it seemed that CW
has forbidden on a band that requires a CW test for use

I care about CW testing surely you have noticed


(2) There you go assuming again.

Look at all the embarrassment you could have saved yourself if you
had just put "Part 97" into the search engine and read it for yourself.

Bull****

A simple yes no instaed of reading through mind numbing legalese


And if you had problems with the emission designators, well,
that's on line and public information too.
=20
Just like your address is.
=20
Steve, K4YZ

) Look at all the embarrassment you could have saved yourself if you
)had just put "Part 97" into the search engine and read it for
yourself.

What embarrsihment are you refering to?

"an_old_friend" wrote

) Look at all the embarrassment you could have saved yourself if you
)had just put "Part 97" into the search engine and read it for
yourself.

What embarrsihment are you refering to?

Nobody refer(r)ed to any ambarrsihment.

73, de Hans, K0HB

an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

You can't do English any better than you could Serbo-Croatian.

there is a lie, I Do English much better

No. You don't.

Bull**** another Stevie boy lie. I know nothing of SerboCroatian , I
know something of english therefore I know English much better

Then prove it.

He answered your question exactly.

no he did not answer it the question was about CW

He absolutely answered your question. Precisely. Accurately.
Civilly.

no he answered it vaguely incompletely and arrogantly

Then you are without question or consideration an absolute liar.

He gave you the specific frequencies allowed and the mode allowed
on them. Simply saying "single side band" is not completely accurate.

I'd guess for your answer that Morse encoded Cw isn't allowed but you I
guess answering a question si too much for you

He did answer your question. Precisely.

no he did not answer it the question was about CW

He absolutely answered your question. Precisely. Accurately.
Civilly.

no he answered it vaguely incompletely and arrogantly

Then you are without question or consideration an absolute liar.

He gave you the specific frequencies allowed and the mode allowed
on them. Simply saying "single side band" is not completely accurate.

you realy like cuting and pasting I can do it to Stevie boy

Nope.

You really like repeating the same lie over and over.

My answer to the assertion is the same answer.

Perhaps your "higher standards" you refered to in another thread
aren't so high, eh?...

any standard is higher than standard of proof for yourself, even your
standard of proof for others

Well...You spelled all of the words correctly....Now if they were
just organized into a coherent sentence...

it is perfectly coherent and in exactly proper for spoken english,
which the from i use online as I have said before, again and again

No. It's not.

And of course it is true Any standard of proof is higher than yours for
yourself

Still senseless.

centered on 5332 kHz, 5348 kHz, 5368 kHz, 5373 kHz and 5405 kHz.

Geeze, Markie...He gave you the specific mode AND frequencies
authorized.

in gibberish

"Gibberish" to an idiot, perhaps.

I suspectwith some effort i could PHDs to whom it be gibberish

See what I mean...an idiot!

Seems it's perfectly clear in Part 97.

So is this going to be another "rights" issue for you? Is the FCC
going to have to write a "Radio Rules for Dummies" book just for idiots
like you?

GIGO

Must you rant and rave so much

You're the ranter and raver here, Mark.

You asked a question requiring specific information.

That question was answered, but then you insulted and demeaned the
person who provided it just becasue YOU are a feeble minded idiot.

GIGO doesn't apply. You were given the right information. You
simply were (and remain)too stupid to understand it.

And then you don't even have the good courtesy to thank him.

I rarely thank people when they are being discourtesous

Then why didn't you thank Hans for giving you the information you
requested?

Because he didn't

Then you are without question or consideration an absolute liar.

He gave you the specific frequencies allowed and the mode allowed
on them. Simply saying "single side band" is not completely accurate.

He gave you the EXACT frequencies and modes authorized on 60
meters and did so without a single abrasive, discourtesous adjective or
suggestion.

he did not answer the question he rudely choose to answer a different
question

Then you are without question or consideration an absolute liar.

He gave you the specific frequencies allowed and the mode allowed
on them. Simply saying "single side band" is not completely accurate.

No one asked for freqs no asked about any mode beside CW

Just admit you were too stupid to understand and to narrowminded
to take a second to process what was given you.

You reacted the way ALL spolied brats do.

So you just embarked on this mission to provide yet another
opportunity for us to make fun of you? Was it GOOD for you...?!?!

I did not and do not need to know what power levels are ok on 60 M I am
not allowed to transmit there

I don't ask for unneeded data

Good.

Because you obviously were too stupid to understand the data you
DID ask for.

(UNSNIP)...I also
assumed it was 1.5 KW like the rest of the ARS, but then since i am not
using the freqs it doesn't matter

(1) If you're not "using the freqs", why the inquiry in the first
place, and

To determine if I was correctly following folks when it seemed that CW
has forbidden on a band that requires a CW test for use

FCC regulations require Morse Code competency for ANY Amateur
operating on ANY frequency below 30Mhz.

I care about CW testing surely you have noticed

No...You care about getting as much as you can with as little
effort expended.

You proved that years ago.

(2) There you go assuming again.

Look at all the embarrassment you could have saved yourself if you
had just put "Part 97" into the search engine and read it for yourself.

Bull####

A simple yes no instaed of reading through mind numbing legalese

It was only mind numbing to you...Mind numbing because you were
either too stupid or too ignorant to understand it.

I say "stupid or ignorant" because you immeidately made a fool out
of yourself over the answer instead of doing two minutes worth of
research.

Nothing we didn't expect.

Steve, K4YZ

K=D8HB wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote

) Look at all the embarrassment you could have saved yourself if you
)had just put "Part 97" into the search engine and read it for
yourself.

What embarrsihment are you refering to?

Nobody refer(r)ed to any ambarrsihment.
=20
73, de Hans, K0HB

Stevie did

"K4YZ" wrote

KØHB wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote

) Look at all the embarrassment you could have saved yourself if you
)had just put "Part 97" into the search engine and read it for
yourself.

What embarrsihment are you refering to?

Nobody refer(r)ed to any embarrsihment.

I did, Hans.

The embarrasment of ......

Oh, OK. I'm so embarrsi'd that I didn't know "embarrsihment" was the same as
"embarrassment".

73, de Hans, K0HB

an_old_friend wrote:
Hmm Brain responding to a post i haven't seen yet

b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

Also, (is this guy REALLY this stupid...?!?!) the "60 meter band"
DOES fall below 30Mhz, Markie.

Actually, you are. He is the one who stated, "interesting that a band
rquiring code testing forbids code use." Morse Code testing is for
"below 30MHz."

well said

The FCC could of course have allowed it to techs and frankly they
should have

There's a frequency, I think 5.170 off the top of my head, that all
amateurs in Alaska are allowed to use for emergencies. Includes
Technicians. Oooops. Violates the defunct treaty.

FYI...Since you've been in a time warp (and obviously enjoy making
a fool out of yourself rather than use a search engine to do some
research),

You're the one who made the mistake then attacked Mark over it. Makes
you the idiot.

the United States STILL requires that an Amateur licensee to
have passed Element 1 to operate below 30Mhz.

No it does not it requires them to be tested on bands assigned to the
general and extra bands

Techs can use Morse Code on VHF and above. I knew one who did
Quitefine at it.

b.b. wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
Hmm Brain responding to a post i haven't seen yet

b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

Also, (is this guy REALLY this stupid...?!?!) the "60 meter band"
DOES fall below 30Mhz, Markie.

Actually, you are. He is the one who stated, "interesting that a band
rquiring code testing forbids code use." Morse Code testing is for
"below 30MHz."

well said

The FCC could of course have allowed it to techs and frankly they
should have

break

There's a frequency, I think 5.170 off the top of my head, that all
amateurs in Alaska are allowed to use for emergencies. Includes
Technicians. Oooops. Violates the defunct treaty.

you sure it requires even a Ham License I had heard ANY could us the
Alaska freq


FYI...Since you've been in a time warp (and obviously enjoy making
a fool out of yourself rather than use a search engine to do some
research),

You're the one who made the mistake then attacked Mark over it. Makes
you the idiot.

the United States STILL requires that an Amateur licensee to
have passed Element 1 to operate below 30Mhz.

No it does not it requires them to be tested on bands assigned to the
general and extra bands

Techs can use Morse Code on VHF and above. I knew one who did
Quitefine at it.

b.b. (Brian P Burke, N0IMD) wrote:

an_old_friend (Mark C Morgan, KB9RQZ) wrote:

Hmm Brain responding to a post i haven't seen yet

Ya gotta love seeing Markie responding to Burke's posts calling
him "Brain"...

b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

Also, (is this guy REALLY this stupid...?!?!) the "60 meter band"
DOES fall below 30Mhz, Markie.

Actually, you are. He is the one who stated, "interesting that a band
rquiring code testing forbids code use." Morse Code testing is for
"below 30MHz."

well said

The FCC could of course have allowed it to techs and frankly they
should have

Why?

The 5Mhz channels still fall below 30Mhz.

There's a frequency, I think 5.170 off the top of my head, that all
amateurs in Alaska are allowed to use for emergencies. Includes
Technicians. Oooops. Violates the defunct treaty.

Several points:

(1) The exact frequency is 5167.5KHz...or 5.1675MHz if you
prefer) ...However it's restricted to stations (ALL FCC licensed
stations...) in or within 50 miles of the State of Alaska, and is
strictly for Emergency use only. One discreet channel. And it's not
an "Amateur" channel. Amateurs are allowed on this frequency as an
accomodation to safety. A real stretch to cite it as a "violation" of
any treaty.

(2) The treaty you refer to is NOT "defunct". It is still very
much in force. It HAS been ammended, however present United States
rules and regulations as they pertain to the treaty are in compliance
with said treaty.

FYI...Since you've been in a time warp (and obviously enjoy making
a fool out of yourself rather than use a search engine to do some
research),

You're the one who made the mistake then attacked Mark over it. Makes
you the idiot.

the United States STILL requires that an Amateur licensee to
have passed Element 1 to operate below 30Mhz.

No it does not

Yes, it does.

it requires them to be tested on bands assigned to the
general and extra bands

Uh huh....Which are...?!?!

BELOW 30MHZ ! ! ! ! !

QUICK, MARKIE! REVIEW TIME!

What are the four exceptions that allow a "Technician" to act as
control operator of an Amateur Radio station below 30MHz...?!?!?

And WHAT common thread do each of those exceptions have in common
with the present Novice, General, Advanced and Extra class licensees?

Techs can use Morse Code on VHF and above. I knew one who did
Quitefine at it.

Techs can use Morse Code on HF, too. But hey, I thought YOU
insisted that SOMEone has chased all the Techs away...?!?!

Another QuiteWrongLie it seems.

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
b.b. (Brian P Burke, N0IMD) wrote:

an_old_friend (Mark C Morgan, KB9RQZ) wrote:

Hmm Brain responding to a post i haven't seen yet

Ya gotta love seeing Markie responding to Burke's posts calling
him "Brain"...

he doesn't mind

BTW nobody gotta love Stevie just because you say so


b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

Also, (is this guy REALLY this stupid...?!?!) the "60 meter band"
DOES fall below 30Mhz, Markie.

Actually, you are. He is the one who stated, "interesting that a band
rquiring code testing forbids code use." Morse Code testing is for
"below 30MHz."

well said

The FCC could of course have allowed it to techs and frankly they
should have

Why?

Because it is a NoCode band and logicaly should not require a code test
to use it if code is forbidden


The 5Mhz channels still fall below 30Mhz.

So what?

Is it a newsflash to you that S25.2 has changed?

There is NO LEGAL magic at 30Mhz there was but no more


There's a frequency, I think 5.170 off the top of my head, that all
amateurs in Alaska are allowed to use for emergencies. Includes
Technicians. Oooops. Violates the defunct treaty.

Several points:

(1) The exact frequency is 5167.5KHz...or 5.1675MHz if you
prefer) ...However it's restricted to stations (ALL FCC licensed
stations...) in or within 50 miles of the State of Alaska, and is
strictly for Emergency use only. One discreet channel. And it's not
an "Amateur" channel. Amateurs are allowed on this frequency as an
accomodation to safety. A real stretch to cite it as a "violation" of
any treaty.

(2) The treaty you refer to is NOT "defunct". It is still very
much in force. It HAS been ammended, however present United States
rules and regulations as they pertain to the treaty are in compliance
with said treaty.

so he should have defunct provision

grow up


FYI...Since you've been in a time warp (and obviously enjoy making
a fool out of yourself rather than use a search engine to do some
research),

You're the one who made the mistake then attacked Mark over it. Makes
you the idiot.

the United States STILL requires that an Amateur licensee to
have passed Element 1 to operate below 30Mhz.

No it does not

Yes, it does.

nope

it requires them to be tested on bands assigned to the
general and extra bands

Uh huh....Which are...?!?!

well known to you. till they are avalable to me I'll not bother to
learn


BELOW 30MHZ ! ! ! ! !

So what


QUICK, MARKIE! REVIEW TIME!

What are the four exceptions that allow a "Technician" to act as
control operator of an Amateur Radio station below 30MHz...?!?!?

none that apply to me

and what I think you are referring isbad decision of the FCCto end
thech vs thech plus license

hopefully that mistake will be fixed


And WHAT common thread do each of those exceptions have in common
with the present Novice, General, Advanced and Extra class licensees?

so?


Now on to turth

Nothing prevents the FCC from allowing hambands anywhere in the
spectrum and assigning them to Tech class, and allowing techs without
code tests to use them

NOTHING but tradition perhaps


Techs can use Morse Code on VHF and above. I knew one who did
Quitefine at it.

Techs can use Morse Code on HF, too. But hey, I thought YOU
insisted that SOMEone has chased all the Techs away...?!?!

indeed he has you chase them away not all stay away

Another QuiteWrongLie it seems.

nope


Steve, K4YZ

Arnold Schwarzenegger wrote:
no

no girly men on that frequency

now you go stand in corner

arnold

Now that's some on-topic policy discussion.

K4YZ (idiot savante) wrote:

b.b. wrote:

an_old_friend wrote:

Hmm Brain responding to a post i haven't seen yet

Ya gotta love seeing Markie responding to Burke's posts calling
him "Brain"...

Only Robber's Son would enjoy making fun of a disabled person's
disability.

b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

Also, (is this guy REALLY this stupid...?!?!) the "60 meter band"
DOES fall below 30Mhz, Markie.

Actually, you are. He is the one who stated, "interesting that a band
rquiring code testing forbids code use." Morse Code testing is for
"below 30MHz."

well said

The FCC could of course have allowed it to techs and frankly they
should have

Why?

The 5Mhz channels still fall below 30Mhz.

No treaty issues anymore. So why not?

There's a frequency, I think 5.170 off the top of my head, that all
amateurs in Alaska are allowed to use for emergencies. Includes
Technicians. Oooops. Violates the defunct treaty.

Several points:

(1) The exact frequency is 5167.5KHz...or 5.1675MHz if you
prefer) ...

I can handle either. Would you like to attempt a hertz conversion?

I've got a pretty good memory (and can remember most of your lies), and
it was previously posted in Part 97 as 5.170 MHz.

The regs have been rewritten to allow for people who don't understand
the bandwidth of an J3E or R3E emission. Congratulations. You
qualify.

Don't believe me? Ask amateur historian Jim.

However it's restricted to stations (ALL FCC licensed
stations...) in or within 50 miles of the State of Alaska, and is
strictly for Emergency use only. One discreet channel. And it's not
an "Amateur" channel. Amateurs are allowed on this frequency as an
accomodation to safety.

Yes, that's what I said, "There's a frequency, I think 5.170 off the
top of my head, that all amateurs in Alaska are allowed to use for
emergencies."

Thanks for your unnecessary confirmation. You're Extra special.

A real stretch to cite it as a "violation" of any treaty.

No stretch. It was the law. This provision has been in place since
I've been an amateur (Jan 87), and don't know how far back it goes.
Clearly a violation of S25 as No Code Techs were authorized to use it.
The frequency was below 30MHz. No Code Techs (obviously) didn't have
to show any proficiency in Morse Code. I think that pretty much
unravels up your claim of stretch. It was a clear violation. Robber's
Son desperate attempts fail to make an issue. bb prevails.

And it could easily be rewritten to read all licensed stations on U.S.
soil, and within 200nm offshore. No?

an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
b.b. (Brian P Burke, N0IMD) wrote:

an_old_friend (Mark C Morgan, KB9RQZ) wrote:

Hmm Brain responding to a post i haven't seen yet

Ya gotta love seeing Markie responding to Burke's posts calling
him "Brain"...

he doesn't mind

I've cashed government checks made out to "Brain." I think they're on
to something.

BTW nobody gotta love Stevie just because you say so

Few could love Steve. My best guess is his overdominant mother. His
wife probably hangs around for his VA disability check.

b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

Also, (is this guy REALLY this stupid...?!?!) the "60 meter band"
DOES fall below 30Mhz, Markie.

Actually, you are. He is the one who stated, "interesting that a band
rquiring code testing forbids code use." Morse Code testing is for
"below 30MHz."

well said

The FCC could of course have allowed it to techs and frankly they
should have

Why?

Because it is a NoCode band and logicaly should not require a code test
to use it if code is forbidden

Not so fast. Where is Steve's apology to Mark for making false
accusations of stupidity, and getting the "below 30MHz" wrong???

Fess up Steve. You got it ALL wrong. Admit it. Apologize.

The 5Mhz channels still fall below 30Mhz.

So what?

Is it a newsflash to you that S25.2 has changed?

There is NO LEGAL magic at 30Mhz there was but no more

The gears of tyranny usually turn slowly.

There's a frequency, I think 5.170 off the top of my head, that all
amateurs in Alaska are allowed to use for emergencies. Includes
Technicians. Oooops. Violates the defunct treaty.

Several points:

(1) The exact frequency is 5167.5KHz...or 5.1675MHz if you
prefer) ...However it's restricted to stations (ALL FCC licensed
stations...) in or within 50 miles of the State of Alaska, and is
strictly for Emergency use only. One discreet channel. And it's not
an "Amateur" channel. Amateurs are allowed on this frequency as an
accomodation to safety. A real stretch to cite it as a "violation" of
any treaty.

(2) The treaty you refer to is NOT "defunct". It is still very
much in force. It HAS been ammended, however present United States
rules and regulations as they pertain to the treaty are in compliance
with said treaty.

so he should have defunct provision

grow up

Impossible. One of Steve's personalities is related to Dick Clark,
America's oldest teenager.

FYI...Since you've been in a time warp (and obviously enjoy making
a fool out of yourself rather than use a search engine to do some
research),

You're the one who made the mistake then attacked Mark over it. Makes
you the idiot.

the United States STILL requires that an Amateur licensee to
have passed Element 1 to operate below 30Mhz.

No it does not

Yes, it does.

nope

Sorry. Except in the 5.170MHz/Alaska provision that I cited, it does.

it requires them to be tested on bands assigned to the
general and extra bands

Uh huh....Which are...?!?!

well known to you. till they are avalable to me I'll not bother to
learn

160, 80/75, 60, 30, 20, 17, 15, 12, and 10M.

BELOW 30MHZ ! ! ! ! !

So what

I've already verified Robber's Sons wrongness. No need to go rubbing
his nose in it. And it wouldn't matter anyway. He's a brown noser
from the gitgo! The smell never changes.

QUICK, MARKIE! REVIEW TIME!

What are the four exceptions that allow a "Technician" to act as
control operator of an Amateur Radio station below 30MHz...?!?!?

none that apply to me

and what I think you are referring isbad decision of the FCCto end
thech vs thech plus license

hopefully that mistake will be fixed

And WHAT common thread do each of those exceptions have in common
with the present Novice, General, Advanced and Extra class licensees?

so?

Now on to turth

Nothing prevents the FCC from allowing hambands anywhere in the
spectrum and assigning them to Tech class, and allowing techs without
code tests to use them

NOTHING but tradition perhaps

The gears of tyranny turn slowly.

Techs can use Morse Code on VHF and above. I knew one who did
Quitefine at it.

Techs can use Morse Code on HF, too. But hey, I thought YOU
insisted that SOMEone has chased all the Techs away...?!?!

indeed he has you chase them away not all stay away

A Tech can use morse code on HF with a General, Advanced, or Extra
control operator at his/her side.

Another QuiteWrongLie it seems.

nope

Robber's Son can't be wrong. You must accept his flaws.

an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
b.b. (Brian P Burke, N0IMD) wrote:

an_old_friend (Mark C Morgan, KB9RQZ) wrote:

Hmm Brain responding to a post i haven't seen yet

Ya gotta love seeing Markie responding to Burke's posts calling
him "Brain"...

he doesn't mind

Sure he does.

BTW nobody gotta love Stevie just because you say so

And where did I say so, Markie?

The FCC could of course have allowed it to techs and frankly they
should have

Why?

Because it is a NoCode band and logicaly should not require a code test
to use it if code is forbidden

(A) It's not a "band". It's five discreet channels.

(B) The mode restriction is due to other adjacent channel users
that we must dovetail with...Not due to any altruistic debate over
Morse Code use or testing.

The 5Mhz channels still fall below 30Mhz.

So what?

Is it a newsflash to you that S25.2 has changed?

There is NO LEGAL magic at 30Mhz there was but no more

Sure there is.

YOU need to read how it's worded.

The international treat gives individual administrations the
OPTION of requiring code testing.

Guess what...?!?!

The United States is in compliance with the treaty.

There's a frequency, I think 5.170 off the top of my head, that all
amateurs in Alaska are allowed to use for emergencies. Includes
Technicians. Oooops. Violates the defunct treaty.

Several points:

(1) The exact frequency is 5167.5KHz...or 5.1675MHz if you
prefer) ...However it's restricted to stations (ALL FCC licensed
stations...) in or within 50 miles of the State of Alaska, and is
strictly for Emergency use only. One discreet channel. And it's not
an "Amateur" channel. Amateurs are allowed on this frequency as an
accomodation to safety. A real stretch to cite it as a "violation" of
any treaty.

(2) The treaty you refer to is NOT "defunct". It is still very
much in force. It HAS been ammended, however present United States
rules and regulations as they pertain to the treaty are in compliance
with said treaty.

so he should have defunct provision

What? Huh?

grow up

I have. And someday you will too. But not today, apparently.

the United States STILL requires that an Amateur licensee to
have passed Element 1 to operate below 30Mhz.

No it does not

Yes, it does.

nope

Oh?

Markie...You're either disagreeing for arguments sake, or you are
again demonstrating your absolute ignorance of United States policy as
it pertains to the Amateur Radio service.

Or just lying again.

it requires them to be tested on bands assigned to the
general and extra bands

Uh huh....Which are...?!?!

well known to you. till they are avalable to me I'll not bother to
learn

So...Got slapped around and now you gonna schlep away with your
tail between your legs!

BBBWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
! ! ! ! ! !

BELOW 30MHZ ! ! ! ! !

So what

So you're patently wrong again.

QUICK, MARKIE! REVIEW TIME!

What are the four exceptions that allow a "Technician" to act as
control operator of an Amateur Radio station below 30MHz...?!?!?

none that apply to me

Absolutely correct.

and what I think you are referring isbad decision of the FCCto end
thech vs thech plus license

They only eneded their admistrative tracking of it. The license,
in practice, still exisits.

hopefully that mistake will be fixed

The FCC has clarly demonstrated that they are all about "less"
regulation and administrative burden...not more.

And WHAT common thread do each of those exceptions have in common
with the present Novice, General, Advanced and Extra class licensees?

so?

"so?" was the wrong answer. You lose.

Now on to turth

Turth? Is that near Intercourse, Pennsylvania?

Nothing prevents the FCC from allowing hambands anywhere in the
spectrum and assigning them to Tech class, and allowing techs without
code tests to use them

NOTHING but tradition perhaps

And nothing but it's current policy that takes advantage of treaty
language that gives administrations the priviledge of determining their
own course.

I DO agree that the FCC COULD have immediately enacted interim
"policy" that could have allowed licensees who pass the higher class
WRITTEN exams to exercise those privileges without the benefit of
passing Element 1 until it had been "officially" dealt with.

But they didn't, so it's still here. Oh well.

Techs can use Morse Code on VHF and above. I knew one who did
Quitefine at it.

Techs can use Morse Code on HF, too. But hey, I thought YOU
insisted that SOMEone has chased all the Techs away...?!?!

indeed he has you chase them away not all stay away

I haven't chased anyone away, Markie. My VHF log has many, many
NCT's on 6 and 2M SSB.

Another QuiteWrongLie it seems.

nope

Yep.

Steve, K4YZ

b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

b.b. wrote:

an_old_friend wrote:

Hmm Brain responding to a post i haven't seen yet

Ya gotta love seeing Markie responding to Burke's posts calling
him "Brain"...

Only Robber's Son would enjoy making fun of a disabled person's
disability.

He's not disabled.

He's lazy.

Massive snip of usual Brain P Burke deceptions and lies...his kids
will have enough to deal with when they get older...

There's a frequency, I think 5.170 off the top of my head, that all
amateurs in Alaska are allowed to use for emergencies. Includes
Technicians. Oooops. Violates the defunct treaty.

Several points:

(1) The exact frequency is 5167.5KHz...or 5.1675MHz if you
prefer) ...

I can handle either. Would you like to attempt a hertz conversion?

I've got a pretty good memory (and can remember most of your lies)

Then you've got a lot of unused storage space available.

You've not yet substantiated a single one of your "lie"
accusations.

it was previously posted in Part 97 as 5.170 MHz.

Not in recent history...recent being back into the 80's when I
first remember seeing it.

The regs have been rewritten to allow for people who don't understand
the bandwidth of an J3E or R3E emission. Congratulations. You
qualify.

Don't believe me? Ask amateur historian Jim.

No, I don't believe you. You're a chronic liar.

And what you don't lie about, you manage to get wrong as a
consequence of inadequate experience or research.

Either way, a "bet" on information provided by you would be money
lost.

Steve, K4YZ