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July 22nd 05, 03:30 AM
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Dee:
I am quite serious. Look over all the posts here. I see where most here are rather anti-social, they don't have much ability to get along well with "other children." Frankly, I would be hard pressed to present the group here as a good reason to enter the hobby of amateur radio and to enjoy an exchange of spoken and mental ideas with others... I include myself in that appraisal also, as I have been direct and to the point also... to do less would seem a waste of time, both theirs and mine... Indeed, some may even be able to see why the Chicken Band is preferable some of the time... still, I am hoping the right people can and will change all that--that is what we are really talking about, and these guys know it, and fear it! John "Dee Flint" wrote in message ... "Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message news  wrote in message oups.com... wrote: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-05-143A1.doc Ugly. Really ugly. But who of us in the PCTA camp, realistically, actually had themselves deluded into thinking the FCC would take any other path? This "NPRM" is not "an opportunity to comment", it's an announcement about the way it's absolutely gonna be. Period. They'll go thru the NPRM motions only because the law sez they have to and they'll patiently tap their fingers on the table until the deluge of desparate commnents is over then declare the POS they published today a done deal. I agree with Dee, the only visible impact this latest "restructing" will be is another quickie bubble of upgrades and nothing more then back then the bands as usual. I could care less about any of it at this late date because none of it has any effect at all on me. I've been allowed to beep, yak and PSK my buns off everywhere band edge to band edge ever since I did 13 wpm fast enough for the examiner to make me a General over a half century ago. With an annoying side trip in 1968 to do 20 wpm to reconfirm my abilty to beep good enough to retain my privs under that particular FCC "restructuring" brainfart. Game over, I'm opting out of any further participation in any of this BS. Seeya in the pileups on 14.020. Ya dunno how to do 14.020? Good: Less QRM for me. Eat yer heart out. 73 de Jim, N2EY w3rv Rest assured the FCC is going to do whatever is easiest for THEM. There may be a upward surge of new "Ultra Lite Extra's" (Did I really say that???).....and in a short time the bands will still sound deserted. There is a lot more at work here then just dropping CW. Check out the bands lately? Where are all those new "light" hams anyway? Danged if I can find them. All you that gloat over losing one of the glues that hold/held ham radio together will rue this day. And no I'm not a stuck in the mud, cw only operator, I just see the hand writing on the wall. Lennie is happy now. He can sneak over to a test session and get his General...... Dan/W4NTI Dollars to donuts that he comes up with another excuse not to. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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#3
July 23rd 05, 12:48 AM
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"John Smith"
This particular group of misfits with licenses do NOT represent ham radio. Real hams can be found on 20 meters. And that is where I am right now, BTW. Dan/W4NTI "John Smith" wrote in message ... Dee: I am quite serious. Look over all the posts here. I see where most here are rather anti-social, they don't have much ability to get along well with "other children." Frankly, I would be hard pressed to present the group here as a good reason to enter the hobby of amateur radio and to enjoy an exchange of spoken and mental ideas with others... I include myself in that appraisal also, as I have been direct and to the point also... to do less would seem a waste of time, both theirs and mine... Indeed, some may even be able to see why the Chicken Band is preferable some of the time... still, I am hoping the right people can and will change all that--that is what we are really talking about, and these guys know it, and fear it! John "Dee Flint" wrote in message ... "Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message news wrote in message oups.com... wrote: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-05-143A1.doc Ugly. Really ugly. But who of us in the PCTA camp, realistically, actually had themselves deluded into thinking the FCC would take any other path? This "NPRM" is not "an opportunity to comment", it's an announcement about the way it's absolutely gonna be. Period. They'll go thru the NPRM motions only because the law sez they have to and they'll patiently tap their fingers on the table until the deluge of desparate commnents is over then declare the POS they published today a done deal. I agree with Dee, the only visible impact this latest "restructing" will be is another quickie bubble of upgrades and nothing more then back then the bands as usual. I could care less about any of it at this late date because none of it has any effect at all on me. I've been allowed to beep, yak and PSK my buns off everywhere band edge to band edge ever since I did 13 wpm fast enough for the examiner to make me a General over a half century ago. With an annoying side trip in 1968 to do 20 wpm to reconfirm my abilty to beep good enough to retain my privs under that particular FCC "restructuring" brainfart. Game over, I'm opting out of any further participation in any of this BS. Seeya in the pileups on 14.020. Ya dunno how to do 14.020? Good: Less QRM for me. Eat yer heart out. 73 de Jim, N2EY w3rv Rest assured the FCC is going to do whatever is easiest for THEM. There may be a upward surge of new "Ultra Lite Extra's" (Did I really say that???).....and in a short time the bands will still sound deserted. There is a lot more at work here then just dropping CW. Check out the bands lately? Where are all those new "light" hams anyway? Danged if I can find them. All you that gloat over losing one of the glues that hold/held ham radio together will rue this day. And no I'm not a stuck in the mud, cw only operator, I just see the hand writing on the wall. Lennie is happy now. He can sneak over to a test session and get his General...... Dan/W4NTI Dollars to donuts that he comes up with another excuse not to. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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#4
July 21st 05, 07:20 AM
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In one way, I can picture it being a "sad day." One of the posts here
pointed out this possibility to me. For decades now a few of the guys (hams) here in my local area have terrorized CB'ers and freebanders. Invoking the FCC to send countless notices and confiscate equip and linears on a quite frequent basis. And, even two truck stops in the area have been favorite "hunting grounds" for these guys. Can you imagine the retaliation which is going to be spun against those hams which have been so inclined? The term "repaid in spades" occurs to me. I imagine some may forsake the hobby for other pursuits, or move to another area! Thank gawd I have always had enough common sense to practice the "good neighbor policy!" grin John wrote in message oups.com... http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-05-143A1.doc 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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#5
July 22nd 05, 02:20 AM
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So you are advocating the illegal jerks that got nailed (rightfully so) to
now get the freebee give away new ham ticket right? Then come onto the ham bands and act in a same or worse manner against those that find following the rules a good thing? Right? Dan/W4NTI "John Smith" wrote in message ... In one way, I can picture it being a "sad day." One of the posts here pointed out this possibility to me. For decades now a few of the guys (hams) here in my local area have terrorized CB'ers and freebanders. Invoking the FCC to send countless notices and confiscate equip and linears on a quite frequent basis. And, even two truck stops in the area have been favorite "hunting grounds" for these guys. Can you imagine the retaliation which is going to be spun against those hams which have been so inclined? The term "repaid in spades" occurs to me. I imagine some may forsake the hobby for other pursuits, or move to another area! Thank gawd I have always had enough common sense to practice the "good neighbor policy!" grin John wrote in message oups.com... http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-05-143A1.doc 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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#6
July 22nd 05, 02:32 AM
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Dan:
I don't think you an idiot yet, don't make me re-evaluate my opinion by attacking me in a "girly-man maneuver" and attempting to put words in my mouth. I advocate nothing. Being a student of human nature, I am betting it will happen! John "Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message nk.net... So you are advocating the illegal jerks that got nailed (rightfully so) to now get the freebee give away new ham ticket right? Then come onto the ham bands and act in a same or worse manner against those that find following the rules a good thing? Right? Dan/W4NTI "John Smith" wrote in message ... In one way, I can picture it being a "sad day." One of the posts here pointed out this possibility to me. For decades now a few of the guys (hams) here in my local area have terrorized CB'ers and freebanders. Invoking the FCC to send countless notices and confiscate equip and linears on a quite frequent basis. And, even two truck stops in the area have been favorite "hunting grounds" for these guys. Can you imagine the retaliation which is going to be spun against those hams which have been so inclined? The term "repaid in spades" occurs to me. I imagine some may forsake the hobby for other pursuits, or move to another area! Thank gawd I have always had enough common sense to practice the "good neighbor policy!" grin John wrote in message oups.com... http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-05-143A1.doc 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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#7
July 21st 05, 09:05 PM
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wrote in message oups.com... http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-05-143A1.doc 73 de Jim, N2EY Hello, Jim Is the glass half empty or half full? I look at it this way: we will always know where to head for an interesting chat with someone knowlegeable. We'll know where to head to avoid profanity. We'll know where to head to avoid interference and folks screaming "AUDIOOOOOOO"/ We'll head for the cw bands.  73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA |
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#8
July 22nd 05, 02:22 AM
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"Jim Hampton" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-05-143A1.doc 73 de Jim, N2EY Hello, Jim Is the glass half empty or half full? I look at it this way: we will always know where to head for an interesting chat with someone knowlegeable. We'll know where to head to avoid profanity. We'll know where to head to avoid interference and folks screaming "AUDIOOOOOOO"/ We'll head for the cw bands. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA I really feel sorry for the stations outside of conus. They are really going to hate us now. Dan/W4NTI |
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#9
July 21st 05, 08:12 PM
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wrote in message oups.com... http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-05-143A1.doc 73 de Jim, N2EY I disagree Jim. Code has been at 5 WPM for some time now. That's just about a de-facto elimination of the same as I have yet to have a person come thru my classes who could not get 5 WPM. |
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#10
July 22nd 05, 02:26 AM
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Go he
http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi to file a comment. The proceeding number is "05-235". I did my comment, I said "Do it". |
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