Dee:

You are correct about one thing, those who are in danger of having
their egos deflated, of being forced to wakeup, those realizing they
are not going to be allowed to "be special" anymore are going to
scream like pigs and look for some way to divert the fixes which are
coming this way...

John

"Dee Flint" wrote in message
...

"K4YZ" wrote in message
ups.com...


wrote:
wrote:

I agree with Dee, the only visible impact this
latest "restructing"
will be is another quickie bubble of upgrades and nothing more
then back then the bands as usual.

Yup. Then the "barrier" folks will find another excuse.

Yep.

Just like with Novice Enhancement, the introduction of the NCT
and
Restructuring...

I find it laughable that the FCC would use the same worn out
and
obviously untrue language that "this" change will bring all those
technically-oriented people into the Amateur fold. They said the
exact
same thing with the last three aforementioned evolutions and it
wasn't
true then.

Indeed we dropped the Code Test in 91 for 97% of all Amateur
allocations, including the highly sought after VHF/UHF spectrum.
The
REAL argument has been over that last 3%, or the HF allocations.
So
where were all those engineering-types then?

People like "You-Know-Who" have been arguing that his ilk don't
get licenses due to not being able to get on HF...Yet they ALSO
argue
that the license is most valuable for experimenting. Well...All of
the
REAL "experimenting" is going on ABOVE 30MHz, not below it, so the
argument is moot. They, like everyone else, want to get on HF and
"shoot skip", nothing more.

I'm betting that it remains CW for Extra, and no code for
Generals, unless the FCC want's to disband the phone-vs-narrow band
subdivisions. I think there will be sufficient argument to keep
that
much.


I'm betting that it will go just like the NPRM is now and that is
code elimination across the board. They specifically discussed the
proposals that had that concept in it and discounted the
possibility.

The next two arguments are going to be to squeeze all of the
non-voice modes into 50 or 75KHz of spectrum on each band since all
of
those new codeless Generals will want to spead out, and to have
only
one or two license classes.


You know I doubt this as those who really wanted General upgraded
anyway. Of those who haven't upgraded yet, many are relatively
inactive anyhow.

As far as two license classes go, FCC is not considering it right
now and it won't really matter what they do as I believe that there
will be a de facto two class system.

When that is done we can remove all references to training and
technical/operational competency from the Basis and Purpose of Part
97.
Shortly thereafter we can move all of Part 97 to Part 95. Maybe
re-write both parts into one, new, Part 96?

Perhaps we can also add new bands at 061, 08, 04, 03 etc Meters
so
those claiming unfairness in testing criteria due to "dyslexia" can
operate legally...?!?!

73

Steve, K4YZ


Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Dee:

You are correct about one thing, those who are in danger of having their
egos deflated, of being forced to wakeup, those realizing they are not
going to be allowed to "be special" anymore are going to scream like pigs
and look for some way to divert the fixes which are coming this way...

John


I find it difficult to see how extracted that concept from what I said.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

"Dee Flint" wrote in message
...

"K4YZ" wrote in message
ups.com...


wrote:
wrote:

I agree with Dee, the only visible impact this
latest "restructing"
will be is another quickie bubble of upgrades and nothing more then
back then the bands as usual.

Yup. Then the "barrier" folks will find another excuse.

Yep.

Just like with Novice Enhancement, the introduction of the NCT and
Restructuring...

I find it laughable that the FCC would use the same worn out and
obviously untrue language that "this" change will bring all those
technically-oriented people into the Amateur fold. They said the exact
same thing with the last three aforementioned evolutions and it wasn't
true then.

Indeed we dropped the Code Test in 91 for 97% of all Amateur
allocations, including the highly sought after VHF/UHF spectrum. The
REAL argument has been over that last 3%, or the HF allocations. So
where were all those engineering-types then?

People like "You-Know-Who" have been arguing that his ilk don't
get licenses due to not being able to get on HF...Yet they ALSO argue
that the license is most valuable for experimenting. Well...All of the
REAL "experimenting" is going on ABOVE 30MHz, not below it, so the
argument is moot. They, like everyone else, want to get on HF and
"shoot skip", nothing more.

I'm betting that it remains CW for Extra, and no code for
Generals, unless the FCC want's to disband the phone-vs-narrow band
subdivisions. I think there will be sufficient argument to keep that
much.


I'm betting that it will go just like the NPRM is now and that is code
elimination across the board. They specifically discussed the proposals
that had that concept in it and discounted the possibility.

The next two arguments are going to be to squeeze all of the
non-voice modes into 50 or 75KHz of spectrum on each band since all of
those new codeless Generals will want to spead out, and to have only
one or two license classes.


You know I doubt this as those who really wanted General upgraded anyway.
Of those who haven't upgraded yet, many are relatively inactive anyhow.

As far as two license classes go, FCC is not considering it right now and
it won't really matter what they do as I believe that there will be a de
facto two class system.

When that is done we can remove all references to training and
technical/operational competency from the Basis and Purpose of Part 97.
Shortly thereafter we can move all of Part 97 to Part 95. Maybe
re-write both parts into one, new, Part 96?

Perhaps we can also add new bands at 061, 08, 04, 03 etc Meters so
those claiming unfairness in testing criteria due to "dyslexia" can
operate legally...?!?!

73

Steve, K4YZ


Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Dee Flint wrote:
"John Smith" wrote in message
...

Dee:

You are correct about one thing, those who are in danger of having their
egos deflated, of being forced to wakeup, those realizing they are not
going to be allowed to "be special" anymore are going to scream like pigs
and look for some way to divert the fixes which are coming this way...

John



I find it difficult to see how extracted that concept from what I said.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

It came to him via the voices in his head.

commander buzzoff:

.... those voices tell me you are a bad man, a very, very bad man...

ROFLOL!!!

John

"Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...
Dee Flint wrote:
"John Smith" wrote in message
...

Dee:

You are correct about one thing, those who are in danger of having
their egos deflated, of being forced to wakeup, those realizing
they are not going to be allowed to "be special" anymore are going
to scream like pigs and look for some way to divert the fixes which
are coming this way...

John



I find it difficult to see how extracted that concept from what I
said.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

It came to him via the voices in his head.

It came to him via the voices in his head.

Not voice (phone), but in CW! CW in his head. :-)

"Dee Flint" wrote in message
...

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Dee:

You are correct about one thing, those who are in danger of having their
egos deflated, of being forced to wakeup, those realizing they are not
going to be allowed to "be special" anymore are going to scream like
pigs
and look for some way to divert the fixes which are coming this way...

John


I find it difficult to see how extracted that concept from what I said.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


ROFLMAO...Dee, just look at what he extracted from me getting on the radio
under my husband's General Class license and talking whenever I want.
Which, by the way, I have never done yet. snorkle We haven't had HF on
much since he was licensed as a General.

Kim W5TIT




----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==----
http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups
----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----