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Monitoring Sample
My qth is Bowling Green KY.
Been monitoring hf freqs today, since sunrise. Observed following: 6670 khz, three guys talking about truck driving and where they will stop next, type stuff they carrying, etc. 14178 khz, man & woman, never gave a call sign, talked over a hour, used cb slang, set sked for tonight. 28422 khz, two guys talking about how code not needed for a ham license anymore, never gave call signs, sounded like freebanders. Said they were starting a net on this freq. Above sampling would tend to indicate ham bands are being invaded, and the 6 mhz stuff tells me there is little or no enforcement going on. 73, loray |
Loray:
Yeah, kinda like the fall of the "Berlin Wall", all at once and quite surprising, at least to those hams caught sleeping, huh? John "loray" wrote in message ... My qth is Bowling Green KY. Been monitoring hf freqs today, since sunrise. Observed following: 6670 khz, three guys talking about truck driving and where they will stop next, type stuff they carrying, etc. 14178 khz, man & woman, never gave a call sign, talked over a hour, used cb slang, set sked for tonight. 28422 khz, two guys talking about how code not needed for a ham license anymore, never gave call signs, sounded like freebanders. Said they were starting a net on this freq. Above sampling would tend to indicate ham bands are being invaded, and the 6 mhz stuff tells me there is little or no enforcement going on. 73, loray |
loray wrote: My qth is Bowling Green KY. Been monitoring hf freqs today, since sunrise. Observed following: 6670 khz, three guys talking about truck driving and where they will stop next, type stuff they carrying, etc. 14178 khz, man & woman, never gave a call sign, talked over a hour, used cb slang, set sked for tonight. 28422 khz, two guys talking about how code not needed for a ham license anymore, never gave call signs, sounded like freebanders. Said they were starting a net on this freq. Above sampling would tend to indicate ham bands are being invaded, and the 6 mhz stuff tells me there is little or no enforcement going on. all a pretty good that even the lack of experence of the new folks able to legaly use hf will not harm anything 73, loray |
.... here in the central valley, freebanders are everywhere, especially
the truckers... John "an old friend" wrote in message oups.com... loray wrote: My qth is Bowling Green KY. Been monitoring hf freqs today, since sunrise. Observed following: 6670 khz, three guys talking about truck driving and where they will stop next, type stuff they carrying, etc. 14178 khz, man & woman, never gave a call sign, talked over a hour, used cb slang, set sked for tonight. 28422 khz, two guys talking about how code not needed for a ham license anymore, never gave call signs, sounded like freebanders. Said they were starting a net on this freq. Above sampling would tend to indicate ham bands are being invaded, and the 6 mhz stuff tells me there is little or no enforcement going on. all a pretty good that even the lack of experence of the new folks able to legaly use hf will not harm anything 73, loray |
Hello, John
Yep, and I'm gonna laugh my *ss off when they start using the FM band (oh - I forgot, they already are) and the AM band. I hope they clobber your ball game on dish network too ;) The reality is that somehow there has to be some regulation. Ever been on a freeway and encountered some idiot (likely drunk) going the wrong way? Heck, if it gets bad, I can handle it. It isn't the number of guns you have, it's who you shoot. 25 feet of bell wire on a spark plug to a lawn mower will kill the idiot running 25 kw screaming "audiooooo....". If he can't hear 'em, he can't work 'em. That is just a very simple "for openers". I've got more twists than a snake, but hope I'll not need them :))) I mention only the obvious; I'll not reveal the really nasty stuff that is hard to track ..... pins in coax doesn't count; too simple. Bring 'em on!!!! ROTFLMAO 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA "John Smith" wrote in message ... Loray: Yeah, kinda like the fall of the "Berlin Wall", all at once and quite surprising, at least to those hams caught sleeping, huh? John "loray" wrote in message ... My qth is Bowling Green KY. Been monitoring hf freqs today, since sunrise. Observed following: 6670 khz, three guys talking about truck driving and where they will stop next, type stuff they carrying, etc. 14178 khz, man & woman, never gave a call sign, talked over a hour, used cb slang, set sked for tonight. 28422 khz, two guys talking about how code not needed for a ham license anymore, never gave call signs, sounded like freebanders. Said they were starting a net on this freq. Above sampling would tend to indicate ham bands are being invaded, and the 6 mhz stuff tells me there is little or no enforcement going on. 73, loray |
Jim:
I agree, regulation is a given necessity and only a fool would have a problem with it. I just realized before everyone else (not really, people have been screaming it from the tops of towers, for decades), there is a need to give avg citizens a slice of bandwidth and communications here. If not, the freebanders are going to be everywhere, it is going to be a mess, and regulation impossible. With sufficient bandwidth and access, they will all find it too easy to conform and be good "responsible" citizens and won't be forced into becoming "radio criminals." Besides, we have no room in our prisons for these people and certainly not the money to imprison, abuse and turn them into "real" criminals which will then endanger and kill us and our families and friends. Like I say, sheer logic just dictates no other course of action... John "Jim Hampton" wrote in message ... Hello, John Yep, and I'm gonna laugh my *ss off when they start using the FM band (oh - I forgot, they already are) and the AM band. I hope they clobber your ball game on dish network too ;) The reality is that somehow there has to be some regulation. Ever been on a freeway and encountered some idiot (likely drunk) going the wrong way? Heck, if it gets bad, I can handle it. It isn't the number of guns you have, it's who you shoot. 25 feet of bell wire on a spark plug to a lawn mower will kill the idiot running 25 kw screaming "audiooooo....". If he can't hear 'em, he can't work 'em. That is just a very simple "for openers". I've got more twists than a snake, but hope I'll not need them :))) I mention only the obvious; I'll not reveal the really nasty stuff that is hard to track ..... pins in coax doesn't count; too simple. Bring 'em on!!!! ROTFLMAO 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA "John Smith" wrote in message ... Loray: Yeah, kinda like the fall of the "Berlin Wall", all at once and quite surprising, at least to those hams caught sleeping, huh? John "loray" wrote in message ... My qth is Bowling Green KY. Been monitoring hf freqs today, since sunrise. Observed following: 6670 khz, three guys talking about truck driving and where they will stop next, type stuff they carrying, etc. 14178 khz, man & woman, never gave a call sign, talked over a hour, used cb slang, set sked for tonight. 28422 khz, two guys talking about how code not needed for a ham license anymore, never gave call signs, sounded like freebanders. Said they were starting a net on this freq. Above sampling would tend to indicate ham bands are being invaded, and the 6 mhz stuff tells me there is little or no enforcement going on. 73, loray |
From: "Jim Hampton" on Sat 23 Jul 2005 23:04
Hello, John Yep, and I'm gonna laugh my *ss off when they start using the FM band (oh - I forgot, they already are) and the AM band. I hope they clobber your ball game on dish network too ;) The reality is that somehow there has to be some regulation. Ever been on a freeway and encountered some idiot (likely drunk) going the wrong way? Heck, if it gets bad, I can handle it. It isn't the number of guns you have, it's who you shoot. 25 feet of bell wire on a spark plug to a lawn mower will kill the idiot running 25 kw screaming "audiooooo....". If he can't hear 'em, he can't work 'em. Malicious interference to anyone is still malicious interference. By the existing regulations. You are the one with the license that can be pulled, NOT the "25 kw" freebander. Where do you find this mythical freebander running TWENTY FIVE KILOWATTS?!? [only in newsgroups is where...] That is just a very simple "for openers". I've got more twists than a snake, but hope I'll not need them :))) I mention only the obvious; I'll not reveal the really nasty stuff that is hard to track ..... pins in coax doesn't count; too simple. You aren't thinking sneaky enough. Try benign acts...such as a very short wrapping of cellophane tape on any PL-259 plug center pin. With only one turn wrapping it will insulate that pin very nicely. Using transparent tape instead of translucent "magic" tape will make it less easy to spot. Or get an old auto of the 50s or earlier, do an insulated wrapping of one of the old plug wires to the existing radio antenna on the car. Radiates malicious interference very nicely. If you are caught, blame the auto repair place. Not to worry. Riley H. knows where to send the federal marshalls to go get ya... bit bit |
wrote in message oups.com... From: "Jim Hampton" on Sat 23 Jul 2005 23:04 Hello, John Yep, and I'm gonna laugh my *ss off when they start using the FM band (oh - I forgot, they already are) and the AM band. I hope they clobber your ball game on dish network too ;) The reality is that somehow there has to be some regulation. Ever been on a freeway and encountered some idiot (likely drunk) going the wrong way? Heck, if it gets bad, I can handle it. It isn't the number of guns you have, it's who you shoot. 25 feet of bell wire on a spark plug to a lawn mower will kill the idiot running 25 kw screaming "audiooooo....". If he can't hear 'em, he can't work 'em. Malicious interference to anyone is still malicious interference. By the existing regulations. You are the one with the license that can be pulled, NOT the "25 kw" freebander. Where do you find this mythical freebander running TWENTY FIVE KILOWATTS?!? [only in newsgroups is where...] I don't know about 25 kw amps, but amps (leenyers) in the 5 kw to 10 kw range are in wide use and easily obtained. Amps below 5 kw are as easily procured as just walking in the store, paying for it and walking out. Now don't go getting your ham op blood pressure up! Any amplifier should only be used in a lawful manner and only when in full compliance with the law and FCC rules & regulations. My point is the illegal market has a glut of very high power amps. Buddy up with some local cb-freeband ops, you can learn a lot they don't teach in the schoolhouse. |
loray wrote:
My qth is Bowling Green KY. [snip] 14178 khz, man & woman, never gave a call sign, talked over a hour, used cb slang, set sked for tonight. 28422 khz, two guys talking about how code not needed for a ham license anymore, never gave call signs, sounded like freebanders. Said they were starting a net on this freq. loray I agree with you. There aren't any technical people at the FCC to monitor things, most of the folks are politicians who don't give a rat's ass. As far as content and lack of ID, tune around 75 meter phone late at night any night, you'll hear that and much much more - animal noises, farting in the mic, lots of well behaved adult stuff. Most of these guys have been hams for years. Thank goodness it isn't all those no-code folks clogging up the bands. That would be horrible. BB |
From: hrh on Jul 24, 1:19 pm
wrote in message From: "Jim Hampton" on Sat 23 Jul 2005 23:04 Where do you find this mythical freebander running TWENTY FIVE KILOWATTS?!? [only in newsgroups is where...] I don't know about 25 kw amps, but amps (leenyers) in the 5 kw to 10 kw range are in wide use and easily obtained. PROVE IT. Show your work. Amps below 5 kw are as easily procured as just walking in the store, paying for it and walking out. Now don't go getting your ham op blood pressure up! Any amplifier should only be used in a lawful manner and only when in full compliance with the law and FCC rules & regulations. Okay, His Royal Highness, why haven't you REPORTED THIS to the federal government?!? My point is the illegal market has a glut of very high power amps. My point is that the Internet has a lot of bull**** on it, everything from these mythical "25 KW 'leenyars'" to aliens from outer space stored in "Area 51." Doesn't make it true. If you ARE such a "good citizen," why haven't you DONE anything about it? Present your evidence to the feds. If you have any, besides a lot of wind and imagination. It is the civic DUTY of all good citizens to report infractions of the LAW. Are you a good citizen or just another anony-mousie in a newsgroup shoveling BS? Buddy up with some local cb-freeband ops, you can learn a lot they don't teach in the schoolhouse. Royal Highness, I learned a LOT a LONG TIME ago and NOT in any "schoolhouse" full of conspiracy theorists all trying to out-BS the BSers. A very long time ago I learned to fire up HF transmitters with outputs of 15 to 40 KW. Legally. Don't try to foist off some anony-mousie "inside knowledge" on anyone who has been IN the industry for a long time. Go somewhere else where you think you can pull off a con on some unsuspecting yokel, okay? |
"BugsBunny666" wrote in message oups.com... loray wrote: My qth is Bowling Green KY. [snip] 14178 khz, man & woman, never gave a call sign, talked over a hour, used cb slang, set sked for tonight. 28422 khz, two guys talking about how code not needed for a ham license anymore, never gave call signs, sounded like freebanders. Said they were starting a net on this freq. loray I agree with you. There aren't any technical people at the FCC to monitor things, most of the folks are politicians who don't give a rat's ass. One source tells of a typical day at the FCC, they call it survival, and it consists of protecting your back by gathering enough documentation on your boss, peers, and subordinates, that should the need arise, you can use it to protect yourself. Sounds like a place with soaring morale and little inclination to perform technical duties. steve |
steve wrote: "BugsBunny666" wrote in message oups.com... loray wrote: My qth is Bowling Green KY. [snip] 14178 khz, man & woman, never gave a call sign, talked over a hour, used cb slang, set sked for tonight. 28422 khz, two guys talking about how code not needed for a ham license anymore, never gave call signs, sounded like freebanders. Said they were starting a net on this freq. loray I agree with you. There aren't any technical people at the FCC to monitor things, most of the folks are politicians who don't give a rat's ass. One source tells of a typical day at the FCC, they call it survival, and it consists of protecting your back by gathering enough documentation on your boss, peers, and subordinates, that should the need arise, you can use it to protect yourself. Sounds like a place with soaring morale and little inclination to perform technical duties. sounds like busness as normal in federal govt and most private industry too steve |
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steve wrote:
One source tells of a typical day at the FCC, they call it survival, and it consists of protecting your back by gathering enough documentation on your boss, peers, and subordinates, that should the need arise, you can use it to protect yourself. Sounds like a place with soaring morale and little inclination to perform technical duties. steve And that source is? |
loray wrote: My qth is Bowling Green KY. Been monitoring hf freqs today, since sunrise. Observed following: 6670 khz, three guys talking about truck driving and where they will stop next, type stuff they carrying, etc. 14178 khz, man & woman, never gave a call sign, talked over a hour, used cb slang, set sked for tonight. 28422 khz, two guys talking about how code not needed for a ham license anymore, never gave call signs, sounded like freebanders. Said they were starting a net on this freq. if the FCC can find anybody they want why not these folks Above sampling would tend to indicate ham bands are being invaded, and the 6 mhz stuff tells me there is little or no enforcement going on. 73, loray |
an_old_friend wrote: loray wrote: My qth is Bowling Green KY. Been monitoring hf freqs today, since sunrise. Observed following: 6670 khz, three guys talking about truck driving and where they will stop next, type stuff they carrying, etc. 14178 khz, man & woman, never gave a call sign, talked over a hour, used cb slang, set sked for tonight. 28422 khz, two guys talking about how code not needed for a ham license anymore, never gave call signs, sounded like freebanders. Said they were starting a net on this freq. if the FCC can find anybody they want why not these folks Who said they haven't? Look under NOUO in FCC sanctions and violations...lotsa 28Mhz CB'ers busted there. Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: an_old_friend wrote: loray wrote: My qth is Bowling Green KY. Been monitoring hf freqs today, since sunrise. Observed following: 6670 khz, three guys talking about truck driving and where they will stop next, type stuff they carrying, etc. 14178 khz, man & woman, never gave a call sign, talked over a hour, used cb slang, set sked for tonight. 28422 khz, two guys talking about how code not needed for a ham license anymore, never gave call signs, sounded like freebanders. Said they were starting a net on this freq. if the FCC can find anybody they want why not these folks Who said they haven't? the absesne of evdence they have Look under NOUO in FCC sanctions and violations...lotsa 28Mhz CB'ers busted there. 2 of the 3 cites are not 28mhz Steve, K4YZ |
"K4YZ" wrote in message oups.com... an_old_friend wrote: loray wrote: My qth is Bowling Green KY. Been monitoring hf freqs today, since sunrise. Observed following: 6670 khz, three guys talking about truck driving and where they will stop next, type stuff they carrying, etc. 14178 khz, man & woman, never gave a call sign, talked over a hour, used cb slang, set sked for tonight. 28422 khz, two guys talking about how code not needed for a ham license anymore, never gave call signs, sounded like freebanders. Said they were starting a net on this freq. if the FCC can find anybody they want why not these folks Who said they haven't? Look under NOUO in FCC sanctions and violations...lotsa 28Mhz CB'ers busted there. Steve, K4YZ Yup, looked there, and didn't see a thing. Me thinks you fulla crapola. |
agian why aren't these folks caught by the FCC and why aren't other like em If I were doing something I expect not to be operating as I do on VHF and up and not near the FCC's back yard as the poor unforuantes mention in the why are you saying **** thread elsewhere but these folks and others like are operating on HF with it wide range than my signals Me if I blow it I can see them not missing it but these clowns K4YZ wrote: an_old_friend wrote: loray wrote: My qth is Bowling Green KY. Been monitoring hf freqs today, since sunrise. Observed following: 6670 khz, three guys talking about truck driving and where they will stop next, type stuff they carrying, etc. 14178 khz, man & woman, never gave a call sign, talked over a hour, used cb slang, set sked for tonight. 28422 khz, two guys talking about how code not needed for a ham license anymore, never gave call signs, sounded like freebanders. Said they were starting a net on this freq. if the FCC can find anybody they want why not these folks Who said they haven't? Look under NOUO in FCC sanctions and violations...lotsa 28Mhz CB'ers busted there. Steve, K4YZ |
well stvie answer the question
an_old_friend wrote: agian why aren't these folks caught by the FCC and why aren't other like em If I were doing something I expect not to be operating as I do on VHF and up and not near the FCC's back yard as the poor unforuantes mention in the why are you saying **** thread elsewhere but these folks and others like are operating on HF with it wide range than my signals Me if I blow it I can see them not missing it but these clowns K4YZ wrote: an_old_friend wrote: loray wrote: My qth is Bowling Green KY. Been monitoring hf freqs today, since sunrise. Observed following: 6670 khz, three guys talking about truck driving and where they will stop next, type stuff they carrying, etc. 14178 khz, man & woman, never gave a call sign, talked over a hour, used cb slang, set sked for tonight. 28422 khz, two guys talking about how code not needed for a ham license anymore, never gave call signs, sounded like freebanders. Said they were starting a net on this freq. if the FCC can find anybody they want why not these folks Who said they haven't? Look under NOUO in FCC sanctions and violations...lotsa 28Mhz CB'ers busted there. Steve, K4YZ |
again Stevie why doesn't the FCC catch these folks, all code test hams
good and pure and yet able to do such rotten stuff You comaplain long and hard if I don't asnwer your question but you have been ducking this one since July an_old_friend wrote: well stvie answer the question an_old_friend wrote: agian why aren't these folks caught by the FCC and why aren't other like em If I were doing something I expect not to be operating as I do on VHF and up and not near the FCC's back yard as the poor unforuantes mention in the why are you saying **** thread elsewhere but these folks and others like are operating on HF with it wide range than my signals Me if I blow it I can see them not missing it but these clowns K4YZ wrote: an_old_friend wrote: loray wrote: My qth is Bowling Green KY. Been monitoring hf freqs today, since sunrise. Observed following: 6670 khz, three guys talking about truck driving and where they will stop next, type stuff they carrying, etc. 14178 khz, man & woman, never gave a call sign, talked over a hour, used cb slang, set sked for tonight. 28422 khz, two guys talking about how code not needed for a ham license anymore, never gave call signs, sounded like freebanders. Said they were starting a net on this freq. if the FCC can find anybody they want why not these folks Who said they haven't? Look under NOUO in FCC sanctions and violations...lotsa 28Mhz CB'ers busted there. Steve, K4YZ |
Hay there Stevie Monitoring Sample
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 15:07:09 -0400, "loray"
wrote: My qth is Bowling Green KY. Been monitoring hf freqs today, since sunrise. Observed following: 6670 khz, three guys talking about truck driving and where they will stop next, type stuff they carrying, etc. 14178 khz, man & woman, never gave a call sign, talked over a hour, used cb slang, set sked for tonight. 28422 khz, two guys talking about how code not needed for a ham license anymore, never gave call signs, sounded like freebanders. Said they were starting a net on this freq. Above sampling would tend to indicate ham bands are being invaded, and the 6 mhz stuff tells me there is little or no enforcement going on. gee looks to me like the FCC can't find these folks most likely isn't bpthering me 73, loray _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
Hay there Stevie Monitoring Sample agin why does this hppened morse testing is still in place
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 15:07:09 -0400, "loray"
wrote: My qth is Bowling Green KY. Been monitoring hf freqs today, since sunrise. Observed following: 6670 khz, three guys talking about truck driving and where they will stop next, type stuff they carrying, etc. 14178 khz, man & woman, never gave a call sign, talked over a hour, used cb slang, set sked for tonight. 28422 khz, two guys talking about how code not needed for a ham license anymore, never gave call signs, sounded like freebanders. Said they were starting a net on this freq. Above sampling would tend to indicate ham bands are being invaded, and the 6 mhz stuff tells me there is little or no enforcement going on. gee looks to me like the FCC can't find these folks most likely isn't bpthering me 73, loray everyone should be advised that The following person has been advocating the abuse of elders making false charges of child rape, rape in general forges post and name he may also be making flase reports of abusing other in order to attak and cow his foes he also shows signs of being dangerously unstable he regualrly makes threats of aresst or of the power to confine folks againsthere will he is lying of course STEVEN J ROBESON 151 12TH AVE NW WINCHESTER TN 37398 931-967-6282 well stevie you assked for it you got it Mark Morgan _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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