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Old August 6th 05, 12:12 AM
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John Smith wrote:
Here the NCI offers proof and spells it out, just in case these old key
tappers are in danger of pulling some wool over your eyes...

http://www.nocode.org/articles/filter.html

As some have noted in the past, "There are liars, and there are DAMN LIARS!"

John


When Hans proposed that in the brave new world of a No-Code HF License,
that one should have to take a Morse Code Test to use CW, Jim/N2EY said
that a Morse Code Test would be a -barrier- to Morse Code use. Hi!
It's always been a barrier.

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From: b.b. on Aug 5, 4:12 pm

John Smith wrote:


Here the NCI offers proof and spells it out, just in case these old key
tappers are in danger of pulling some wool over your eyes...


http://www.nocode.org/articles/filter.html


As some have noted in the past, "There are liars, and there are DAMN LIARS!"


When Hans proposed that in the brave new world of a No-Code HF License,
that one should have to take a Morse Code Test to use CW, Jim/N2EY said
that a Morse Code Test would be a -barrier- to Morse Code use. Hi!
It's always been a barrier.


True for many, Brian...and unworthy of keeping in federal
radio regulations about amateur radio.

Also true is that Jimmie has never refuted that quotation. It
may be that he has come to believe reality? Well, that may be
a bit too much to hope for...

too for


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From: b.b. on Aug 5, 4:12 pm

John Smith wrote:


Here the NCI offers proof and spells it out, just in case these old key
tappers are in danger of pulling some wool over your eyes...


http://www.nocode.org/articles/filter.html

As some have noted in the past, "There are liars, and there are DAMN LIARS!"


When Hans proposed that in the brave new world of a No-Code HF License,
that one should have to take a Morse Code Test to use CW, Jim/N2EY said
that a Morse Code Test would be a -barrier- to Morse Code use. Hi!
It's always been a barrier.


True for many, Brian...and unworthy of keeping in federal
radio regulations about amateur radio.

Also true is that Jimmie has never refuted that quotation. It
may be that he has come to believe reality? Well, that may be
a bit too much to hope for...

too for


If code testing is good for people who just want to use voice modes, it
must be doubly good for those who want to use CW.

CW gets through when everything else does.

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Old August 6th 05, 11:36 PM
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b.b.:

Trust me, the internet gets through when CW will not...

John

On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 14:24:09 -0700, b.b. wrote:


wrote:
From: b.b. on Aug 5, 4:12 pm

John Smith wrote:


Here the NCI offers proof and spells it out, just in case these old key
tappers are in danger of pulling some wool over your eyes...

http://www.nocode.org/articles/filter.html

As some have noted in the past, "There are liars, and there are DAMN LIARS!"

When Hans proposed that in the brave new world of a No-Code HF License,
that one should have to take a Morse Code Test to use CW, Jim/N2EY said
that a Morse Code Test would be a -barrier- to Morse Code use. Hi!
It's always been a barrier.


True for many, Brian...and unworthy of keeping in federal
radio regulations about amateur radio.

Also true is that Jimmie has never refuted that quotation. It
may be that he has come to believe reality? Well, that may be
a bit too much to hope for...

too for


If code testing is good for people who just want to use voice modes, it
must be doubly good for those who want to use CW.

CW gets through when everything else does.


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Old August 7th 05, 02:04 AM
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John Smith wrote:
b.b.:

Trust me, the internet gets through when CW will not...

John

On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 14:24:09 -0700, b.b. wrote:


wrote:
From: b.b. on Aug 5, 4:12 pm

John Smith wrote:

Here the NCI offers proof and spells it out, just in case these old key
tappers are in danger of pulling some wool over your eyes...

http://www.nocode.org/articles/filter.html

As some have noted in the past, "There are liars, and there are DAMN LIARS!"

When Hans proposed that in the brave new world of a No-Code HF License,
that one should have to take a Morse Code Test to use CW, Jim/N2EY said
that a Morse Code Test would be a -barrier- to Morse Code use. Hi!
It's always been a barrier.

True for many, Brian...and unworthy of keeping in federal
radio regulations about amateur radio.

Also true is that Jimmie has never refuted that quotation. It
may be that he has come to believe reality? Well, that may be
a bit too much to hope for...

too for


If code testing is good for people who just want to use voice modes, it
must be doubly good for those who want to use CW.

CW gets through when everything else does.


But, but, but...

You'll get told that the internet is as unreliable as cellular
telephones.



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From: John Smith on Aug 6, 3:36 pm

b.b.:

Trust me, the internet gets through when CW will not...


Yes, yes, John, it is useful for arranging skeds, holding rag-chews,
but the Internet NEEDS a personal computer! All the Mighty Macho
Morsemen know the "computer" is evil, high-tech bafflegab, and
THREATENS the Wetware modems now "in the service of the nation"
helping Homeland Security against wily terrorists out to destroy
their 1930s fantasy of hamme raddio and morsemanship.

Ahem..."CW gets through when nothing else will" is a hoary old
maxim (probably originating in Newington) that has been around
since the 1930s...back at a time when Claude Shannon had not
shown the radio world his marvelous Law relating bandwidth,
noise, error rate, and information throughput...back at a time
when there were only two modes in most of ham radio: CW and
old-fashioned AM voice. That "morse myth" has been engraved
on the concrete minds of hams seemingly forever.

At one time in here there was a pandemic epidemic of that
hoary hairy old morse myth over-quoted in here by the MMMs
of the deus ex machina mindset. Never mind the Latter-Day
Saints of Technology trying out PSK or 2 KHz BW SSB or fooling
with digitized voice, they, the Faithful Followers of the
Church of St. Hiram HAD to write that ad nauseum.

Brian put that hairy old hoar's breath into a TRUE
statement: "CW gets through when everything else does."
It is suprebly TRUE and without blemish.

End newsgroup history lesson.

awl end


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